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we'll cover it. >> in the spin cycle how quickly could referring to legitimate rape end your campaign? why a missouri congressman's comment matters in 2012. >> going one-on-one with massachusetts governor deval patrick, what he told me about the presidential horse race, partisan politics and his political future. >> relationship advice from someone who knows all about disfunctions, the judge on tv's divorce court. >> and who is judith in a suit and tie? i will tell you. it is monday, august 20th, and you're in" the cycle." >> we'll get to that in a moment. first we start with an unscheduled appearance by the president a little more than an hour ago. he addressed a range of topic from the campaign to afghanistan to congressman akin's legitimate rape comment and most significantly the president due
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a line in the sand on syria. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime and also other players on the ground that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. that would change my calculus. we have communicated in no uncertain terms what every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front. >> kristin welker is with us now. the syrian uprising started about 18 months ago. this is some of the strongest language we have heard from the president. why now. >> good afternoon. i think in part because there has been a lot of discussion about chemical weapons and syria and some of our allies in the region expressed deep concern about the possibility that syria might use chemical weapons,
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particularly israel. you heard from israeli officials who said we will take military action if we feel that we are in harm's way, so i think the president obama felt as though it was necessary to come out with strong language. you heard him not just talk about the fact that using chemical weapons would be a red line but just moving them around, so you're very right, this is some of the clearest, strongest language that we have heard from the president yet on this topic. i also think and you pointed this out, this has been going on now for 18 months, more than 18,000 people have been killed. the u.n. monitors moved out this week. there is a new u.n. special envoy. the question is what will this new u.n. envoy be able to do that kofi annan was not able to do? there is a lot of skepticism this conflict will be able to come to an end in the near future and that there will be a peaceful ending ultimately in syria. i think there is a lot of concern and president obama felt as though it was necessary to come out with very strong language today.
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there are also domestic issues that were discussed during that news conference, that impromptu news conference that president obama had, and one of them was the topic of romney's tax returns as you know the obama campaign has been pressuring mitt romney to release more tax returns. he was asked why that was so important. here is what he had to say. take a listen. >> i think that is what the american people would rightly expect is a sense that if particularly when we're going to be having a huge debate about how we reform our tax code, and how we pay for the government that we need, i think people want to know that everybody has been playing by the same rules including people who are seeking the highest office in the land. this is not an entitlement being president of the united states. this is a privilege. >> the president also stood by the tone of his campaign. some people have accused both sides quite frankly of doing a
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lot of mud slinging in the past several days. president obama said that he believes that the questions that his campaign has raised have been fair so far. he also distanced himself from that controversial priorities usa ad, priorities usa of course a democratic leaning super pac and they put an ad out online that basically suggested that mitt romney was responsible for a woman's death. president obama really distanced himself from that ad today. he said, look, i did not approve the content of that ad. i did not produce that ad. he made it very clear that he is not in any way connected to that ad. so a lot of topics covered today. by the way, we haven't heard from the president in over two months. this is the first time he addressed the white house press corps in over two months. >> thank you for that report. no matter who wins the who us in 2012 there is a deep divide between the parties that's making getting anything of substance done in washington nearly impossible especially because obstructionism has become a political strategy.
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congress is on track to be its least productive since 1947 and a new joint study by the "washington post" and the kaiser family foundation shows our country sz a whole is more polarized than ever. they identify five types of republicans, tea party republic appears, old school republicans, and religious values voter and window shoppers and they break down four types of democrats, urban liberals, god and government democrats and do-it-yourself democrats and the agnostic left and this will make governing even harder. both are coalitions of people that may converge on core issues but whose world views, economic situations and attitudes are far from uniform. we'll bring in the "washington post" polling manager who conducted the constituted by the kaiser family foundation. how are the internal divisions we outlined make governing harder? >> it is remarkable the numbers we're seeing here. we ever conducted a similar
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study 14 years ago in 1998. when you look at the overall values and policy choices and political attitudes, the top line numbers don't suggest big movements. when you look under the numbers, the divergence between democrats and republicans, it is very striking. what we were finding most sharply are real changes on the size and role of government. >> some people are making the argument that the republicans strategy of obstructionism is the real problem in washington. does your study corroborate that? >> both parties come under fire for how the direction of their leadership is working. independents blame both parties for the direction of their leadership in that they're, the lack of compromise and the choice to battle with the other side rather than compromise, so it is certainly not a one-way
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street in everyone blaming the republicans. everyone comes under fire here. >> i was struck in this poll. you highlight the areas where republicans and democrats are really far apart and also highlighted here are a couple of areas where they aren't that far apart. you had almost 50% of republicans saying they support amnesty in some respect for undocumented immigrants and about 60% saying they support carbon regulation and within those five groups the only group that actually supported paul ryan's medicare plan were the tea party republicans. as i look that over, it seems to me like the tea party movement republicans are really driving the policy considerations on the republican side more than any other group. do you think that's a fair assessment. >> i think that's on the right track. the tea party republicans we found in our analysis were the most extreme on a lot of their views. when i say extreme, i mean they were the most unified in their
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attitudes, particularly on things like the size of government, how much control government has over their daily lives and their responses were nearly uniform in their rejection of the size of government and preferring a smaller government. it is remarkable to see so much agreement by any one group, and this is the -- of the five different republican groups we identified the tea party republican group was the largest and they were again probably the most extreme on many of their views. >> everyone bemoans washington gridlock and you're not sures the worst in the world. >> i am not sure ultimately it is a bad thing. i am one of those folks who feels like government should be hard, slow, difficult. you should have to go back to
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the table more than once if you're going to authorize a lot of spending or changes in the tax code or talk about the debt ceiling. these shouldn't be what i call like light switch politics where the white house, the house and the senate are all controlled by the same party and you flip a switch and suddenly everything changes over night. obviously this will lead to problems. i think philosophically it is actually a good thing to slow government down. >> rightfully thoughtful or not getting enough? >> the light switch motto, you're calling for the heinz ketchup approach. i think there is merit to that. i think that was already built into our system by the founders. you talk about how the house is sort of or the passion is where the emotion is and where the knee jerk things happen. the senate was designed one third every two years or six year terms and in the old days appointed every two years and the senate was designed to slow things down and i think what's happened and the problem here in the last few decades is we are
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now and especially this is true of the republican party, the republican party is behaving like a parliamentary party, like great britain would, total cohesion and unity within the party at the legislative level and they basically define themselves as the opposition party. every republican in the house basically will vote the same way. >> doesn't it defeat the idea there is so much disagreement within the republican party, the tea party folks? >> i agree. here is what -- >> you don't agree on everything. >> here is where it becomes a problem. it becomes a problem in the senate when the republicans decide they will use every perogative that an individual senator has and they'll act as a party to filibuster everything. >> there is a difference between the broader republican coalition and the republican voters and the republican opinion leaders and who is driving the conversation in congress right now. i would cite as evidence we have gone way too far off the deep end of being totally ungovernable country by the fact
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that s&p downgraded our credit rating last summer and as a reason they cited political dysfunction. they have no faith even when the chips are down we'll be able to come together and get things accomplished even in a state of crisis. to me that says we have gone past just some normal friction and into the realm of totally ungovernable. >> peyton, craig thank you for coming here and starting this debate. >> my pleasure. >> will he stay or will he go? looks like he will go tomorrow. akin's future has this table divided and we have a bet going whether or not he will make it to tonight. that is next in the spin cycle as we roll on for monday, august 20. [ male announcer ] now you can swipe... scroll... tap... pinch... and zoom... in your car. introducing the all-new cadillac xts with cue. ♪
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the views expressed were offensive. rape is rape. the idea that we should be parsing and qualifying and slicing what types of rape we're talking about doesn't make sense to the american people and certainly doesn't make sense to me. >> it was the first question president obama took at his press conference this afternoon. the president denouncing todd akin's rape remark from the weekend and he is not the only one. republicans are collectively wishing the show me state candidated to a kin had shown a little less this weekend. here is how he responded to a question about abortion in the case of rape. >> if it is a legitimate rape the female body has ways to shut
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that whole thing down. let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. i think there should be punishment but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child. >> now, it is unclear what he meant by quote, unquote, legitimate rape and i have never heard of any biological mechanisms that kick in to stave off an unwanted pregnancy. immediately a host of republicans denounced the comments including the romney-ryan campaign. quote, governor romney and congressman ryan disagree with the statement and a romney-ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape. it didn't stop the dnc from pouncing and attempting to blame the comments on mitt romney. i told you this is going to get ugly. for his part this afternoon akin apologized and vowed not to drop out of the senate race. >> the good people of missouri nominated me and i am not a quitter. my belief is we're going to take this thing forward, and by the
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grace of god we're going to win this race. to quote my old friend john paul jones, i have not yet begun to fight. >> that's what he thinks. with the staged take overof the senate at stake republicans are wondering how long this guy has before he is forced out of the race. guys, i said this morning and i wrote about it today. he has to go. what do you think? will that happen? >> we made a little friendly wager in the office earlier today and i was saying this morning i don't think he will go. i was surprises by something that happened, the nrsc that doles out money is basically saying they're not going to be spending here as long as todd akin is a nominee and karl rove's group that may be more important in terms of doling out money, they're saying they're out, too. i think ultimately this is a question of if todd akin wants to stay in this race, if todd akin wants to stare down every republican calling on him to
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leave, todd akin can stay in this race. if he is in this race in september and october republicans are not taking back the senate if they don't take out claire mccaskill. at a certain point if he is there and he has a chance in september and october, i think they'll have to. >> steve is generally the reasonable voice in the room when everybody starts yelling and this morning there was a lot of discussion about this and several people made wager against you. the staff, it is a win-win for them. they're all going to get pizza whether it is steve buying or if he gets out and then you're buying and stays in i am buying. >> i gave him until the end of the day. >> i am with steve on this one. like you were saying, i think he is probably going to call the nrsc's bluff. if it comes down to it and control the senate is at stake, do we really think the republicans sen to herral committee will not get involved in this race and claire mccaskill even with this turn of events, it is still a tough road
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in mostz, an environment where president obama is likely to lose by 10 points. you need a lot of people to split the tickets. i think it is not in the bag for her in any respect. >> this is the last thing the party needs, a national battle against this guy saying i am going to stay in the race even though i am embarrassed and everybody else saying you have to get out. you don't need that. >> i think, yeah, this time tomorrow we'll be having a conversation about what happens now that akin is out of the race. we'll see. talk to me about your thoughts going on, the substance of what he said. let's unpack that a little. >> i think there has been an interesting shift in the abortion debate that's happened in year. we have had all of those blowouts, unexpected in a year supposed to be about the economy. we had in my home state of virginia, the transvaginal debate and birth control and the comments by rush limbaugh and personhood debates across the country. what's interesting is it used to be the antiabortion movement was
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very good at painting the pro-choice movement in characterizing it by its most extreme elements. i think that has now switched where now people are seeing the pro-life movement in terms of people like todd akin and personhood bills which are very much out of the mainstream as they were showing on the map. personhood has been defeated in states like oklahoma and mississippi. this is far, far out in the mainstream and really animating the conversation on the right. >> what he said was counter factual and unscientific, some 39,000 i believe it was women pregnant from rape last year. as you said there is no biological mechanism that kicks in, but what bothers me more is this idea, this continued idea of not allowing women to have control of their bodies in any situation. they must be able to have that level of liberty they control and they make decisions for themselves rather than government making decisions for them. >> my only point here is, look, i am pro-life. i am not a little pro-life. i am a lot pro-life.
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i took great offense to this, not based on ideology but because it is so unscientifically irresponsible to use junk science, not just to win election but he is baking policy recommendations based on junk science, something i am calling the immaculate misconception which does not as far as i am concerned does not exist. so i think this disqualifies him based on his reckless irresponsibility and in fact i will say stupidity and not his ideology. >> this is like the guy that gets the chain e-mail and believes every word and not afraid to reiterate it. >> and so curious he doesn't bother to fact check in the midst of a national campaign. really silly. he has to go. straight ahead, new rules for an old institution. tips for making marriage work in a world of 21st century distractions and the guest spot, lynn toler tells us why falling in love may not problem. gice longahd.
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staying together. it is no easy task with 50% of marriages ending in divorce these days. so what does did take to make it last? we chatted it over right before the show. >> every time i go to a wedding we write the card and i write the same thing, the most important words in a marriage are not i love you. anybody can say i love you and have a good time. it is i am sorry. it is the ability to have conflict resolution. >> i think that is 100% right and can being able to not be stubborn in the situations and let go of petty things and also not to start fights over petty things. >> that is inevitable. >> any time you live with someone or have a close relationship with someone, there will be things about that person that bother you on a regular basis. >> yes. >> being able to let those things slide and recognize that
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they're not that important, i think is the key. >> part of the problem is like dealing with irrational behavior. people are irrational and when you put two people together, irrational things are going to happen. >> sometimes my husband will wake up in the morning and say to me you were so mean to me in my dream last night. he has a hard time. he let's it go but he has hard time letting it go because it seems to real. his feelings are hurt by what i did to him in his dream. >> i have noing. >> letting the little things go, those small dly courtesies, that adds up to a level of trust and stability in a relationship that i think is key. >> i think. >> it is a little bit more of the man. if in a successful relationship giving in tthe wife as much as he can possiblstand. >> i totally disagree. >> all right. you have heard from us. let's bring in somebody who
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might have more jurisdiction. she is judge and hos of divorce court and brings her unique perspective to the new book making marriage work, new rules for an old institutio so, lynn, thanks for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> first of all, how did we do? what did you think of our take on marriage? >> you didn't do too badly. i think the point that i like the most is that love is a wonderful thick but that is only the first thing and there is a whole lot that has to happen after that and i really did like the point about the man giving in as much as possible. i am going to go home and repeat that to my husband. >> what are some of e tips? >> it is a two-way street. i focus on thinking past the love part. people fall in love and think they found their soulmate because the outrageous chemical reaction that is lo makes them believe that. there is work to be done far before you get married that has nothing to do with picking out flowers or colors and that there
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is work to be done after you get married that you have to plan on. you don't just let your marriage happen to you. you be consciously married in a particular sort of way. >> you talk about new rules. what are some of the new rules that you want us to know about marriage and co-has been at a timing forever? >> i think the first new rule is you have to know who not to marry and you have to take time to see what a person is like and who you shouldn't marry and what the problems were. i put a lot of personality traits in there. you have to be able to look at your spouse, name ten things, five things to ten things that you don't like about them and decide whether you can live with them long-term. you need to go to their house and look at their family because that's the shadow script that they will read from when things get ugly at your house. you need to go to counseling before you get married. you need to learn how to handle money. the vast majority, not the vast majority but a significant section of people have problems
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because they have money problems, and they don't understand money. if you don't understand money, you can't live well together. there are so many things you need to do. >> if you have two different emotional or functional approaches to money, that can be as much of a thing that will draw you apart as much as anything else. >> absolutely. it almost killed my husband and i. i liked to have all of my money in the bank. he likes to fund the money. every dollar he was out having fun with was secured security that he took from me and every dollar i squirrelled away was funny took from him. we couldn't figure out what was wrong until we figured out our emotional approaches to money were different and then we would be able to adjust our behavior and keeping both of those things in mind. >> lynn, you certainly have dealt a lot with divorce in your job. seems to me at least over the past 20 years or so, back to my mom's generation that divorce has become somewhat normalized
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by our culture. there used to be a stigma attached, used to be something people were ashamed of. is that a positive in that women and men are feeling more free to leave bad marriages or do you think it has become a little too easy where people show up to court and it is almost like they're paying a parking ticket? >> i think that the legalese to marry, to leave a marriage should remain. i think the social and emotional decision not to leave needs to change because there was a book out not too long ago called the starter marriage. there is an idea that this is not a long-term full time process that it can be left and people go into it with the idea they know that they can leave and that doesn't allow you to work at it, and we tend to want a lot of immediate gratification. there are going to be ugly years in a marriage. you have to be able to ride through a little bit of ugly so you can get on the other side. >> ugly years that we have to accept. >> it can.
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it can be that way. >> you're right. >> it can happen and you can get through them. >> lynn, i think the term you used earlier was outrageous chemical reaction is how you were describing love, and i take the point you were making there which is that any successful marriage is going to have to move a lot beyond that and going to move a lot of more almost mundane but important things but marriage can't exist, can't work without that chemical reaction, can it? >> there is the initial chemical reaction goes to the place in your brain where cocaine goes to get you high. that is the initial chemical reaction. over years it changes. you change into a more settled and different kind of love. it is not that hot passion one, but it is a strong, deep, burning one, and that lights up different parts of your brain. so you start out with that hot love, you ride it for a while, and then you let -- you do the work and the process that allows you to settle into that more basic consistent kind of love.
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>> very good. >> with pops of power. >> you have given me a lot of hope for a lot of people's marriages. i certainly am very happy in mine, but always good to keep these things in mind. thanks so much for joining us. up next it is monday and that means it is time for us and you to get to know another one of our cyclists here a little better and today steve is up. his one-on-one interview with duval patrick and so much more just ahead. >> here we are in downtown lowell, massachusetts, the sonk to think as arena, came closer to winning than many people remember and i grew up a few miles from here and this was the guy, that was the campaign that got me interested in politics in the first place. [ male announcer ] if you stash tissues
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have been spending time getting to know each other and helping you get to know us. today let's map out the story that is steve kornacki. steve is a former photographer and before he was discovered and became a national heart throb he hosted a regional political show in new jersey. take my word for it, let's go to the video type. tape. >> we're back on power and politics. >> i love that. >> i love the hair. long before he was a tv star he did a brief stint as a politician, president of the tenth grade class until he botched prom planning and was swiftly voted out. politics ain't for the feint of heart. it is not all politics with steve. it is 99.9% politics. he is not amused by one specific part of amusement park, one in particular, the coney island ferris wheel. roller coasters, good.
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slow moving, non-descript rides, no, no, no. not to say he isn't an internal man of mystery and danger. he once broke a girl's wrist. not as bad as is sounds. it was an unfortunate skiing incident during a magical date or something. hopefully he is easier on patrick. >> there is a good explanation for the ferris wheel. the massachusetts governor that i talked to made it out of our one-on-one unscathed and we got into tough issues. we started off with election year politics. >> i am enthusiastic about president obama's re-election and i feel that it is bigger than the candidates or any one campaign or policy and as important as passionate as people feel about policy, i think the american dream is at stake. >> that's the theme of the book have you written. >> that's right. >> really is sort of a defense of not just the role of government but the concept of government and i wonder if that's an area you think not
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just related to this campaign but going forward, is this something democrats dropped the ball in explaining to people and getting them to understand? >> i heard a great line from a prominent democrat in washington that the first ones to believe the republican talking points are democrats. maybe most especially democratic senators said this one person. i think that this notion that we can look to the private sector to solve all of our problems is naive and never been reality in this country. we need a robust independent private sector. that's where most people will find their way. we need government to do the things that we do together. >> seems though and i am trying to think ahead to next year because really not going to resolve anything in congress before the end of the election and probably in the lame duck session. >> isn't it amazing we accept that? >> i wonder about that. we do. should we not? is there anything that we can do right now that would spur
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congress to do anything? >> i would tell you i think that the notion that the behavior of a congress which has in the midst of the worst economic crisis in a generation or two, been permitted in effect to place the undoing of this presidency at the top of their agenda is an outrage, and there ought to be consequences for that at the polls. >> looks like a not likely scenario that democrats will take back the house. how do you break through that? >> i actually think that the dynamic in the congress changes even if the personnel doesn't if the president wins re-election. >> if he does get re-elected, what would you like to see in a second term? what are the things you want addressed? >> i want a bold agenda and i want it to come out fast and strong from the beginning. i want it to be first and foremost an economic agenda.
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the deficit and investment strategy, the balanced approach that the president has put on the table in various forms over the last couple of years, i think we have to have action on that, and i think that clarity about where we're going is helpful in a whole lot of lulls including settling down this sense of uncertainty in the market right now. i want an emphasis on education and innovation and on infrastructure which is precisely what we're doing here in massachusetts. it is an absolutely critical series of investments for the here and now. >> i want to ask you about you're doing something very interesting on health care. you have obviously the universal health care law in your state. the issue has been cost control so you are now -- you now have a plan that is supposed to save $200 billion in costs over 15 years. can you tell us what specifically you'll be doing? >> i think we'll save even more. we have been on a path of universal care now for five years, five and a half years, a bill that governor romney signed
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when he was in this office before me. i am very proud of the fact we have extended coverage to over 98% of our residents, 99.8% of children. more businesses are offering insurance to their employees today than before health care reform went into place. we are healthier by a host of measures. we are the model here in massachusetts for the affordable care act. our own health care reform polls consistently in the 60, 70% approval. the affordable care act in massachusetts about 50/50 and the same thing. i think it has a whole lot to do with how much better understood and how much better marketed our own local health care reform has been than what's happened at the national level. >> you have said you're not going to run for re-election in 2014 and you want to return to the private sector. >> yeah. i miss the private sector on pay day. you can stay involved from the private sector as well. there may be another time in life when i feel like i have
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some contribution to make in public life, but that won't be at the tail end of my time as governor. >> all right. you can catch more of my interview with governor patrick by going to the cycle.msnbc.com and check out my web extra on another legend paul tsongas. the man whose career is a large part of the reason i am sitting here today if you like lull and stongas, you will love that segment. if not, check it out anyway. the man that brought super size me, he teaches us how to be better dudes. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america
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i am roger hailtz. we're at the brooklyn denim company. we'll be talking about jeans. with me is a fashion expert. will you teach me how to buys jeans. >> i will. >> what's wrong with these? >> what roger did wrong is actually paid money for these pair of jeans. start with the wash of these jeans. there is the fake whiskering which is a no. when you go to the thighs, what's going on? is he a painter? is he a homeless person? i don't know. the three things that i think are really good about these jeans are the slimmer leg, the lower rise, and also the back view is really good on roger
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here. >> caught you looking. >> critical information for those of you still wearing hammer pants or mom jeans. yahoo!'s mansome is here to help, the online series bringing men everywhere the necessary intel on how to rise above masculine mediocrity. they are covering everything from making a better drink to grilling the perfect steak to siphoning gas and surviving a bear attack. news everyone needs. here with us is the executive producer mr. morgan spurrlock. how are you, sir? >> great. how are you. you are looking mansome. >> i want to see if you are wearing jeans. >> key to my jeans, no whiskers. no whiskers on my jeans. >> what is the number one message that you want most men or all men to get from this mansome project? what if you could shake men up and say this is what you need to know. >> we all want to be manly and handsome. we want to be mansome.
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that's what we want to do. we want to give you the information you need to like be able to cry in front of your girlfriend, let her know it is okay when you watch rudy for you to be a man and also at the same time just to pretend like you're listening when she is saying something important. >> that last part is very important. i think overall just the definition of man hood and masculinity for our generation for now is a bit adrift. i think our fathers and grandfathers had a more strong sense of what it meant to be a man and now we're in a transitional moment and still trying to figure it out. what does it mean to be a man right now? >> that's the question. we're not going out and skinning things anymore. we're not bringing home a hide. we're not having to kill for ourselves. >> speak for yourself. >> i bet do you those things every day. this is a panel that looks like they skinned a few animals. i am not worried about you guys. >> to be a man, what does it mean? >> i mean, i think to be a man is to take care of yourself, to be willing to take care of someone else, to be honest, to
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be strong, to actually have the things inherently a man and that's what we hope the show teaches you. sounds a lot like what it means to be a woman, too. >> i hear a sequel. i hear a spin off. >> there you go. i like it. i think of you in terms of sort of being an activist, super size me, and your work on 30 days where you would live the life of someone else who has some sort of life that's very different from your own. >> right. >> is there a more sort of activist point that you wanted to make with mansome. >> i think ultimately what you want is people to wake up and say i can take responsibility for my own life and get rid of the terrible jeans and i can be a better husband and i can be a better boyfriend and be a little more fun to be around. here are the things that will help make you ultimately a mormonsome man, hoping to take this to heart and if they don't you'll at least get a good laugh. >> i was reading through the materials you had and one of the things that jumps out is how to grill a burger.
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i have used a grill a few thiemz and not an expert. i am curious. what's the key to a mansome man drilling a burger. >> the key, the perfect steak is the harder one. to grill the perfect steak like if you make a fist and you punch on your steak and you push on the fist and it's squishy, then poke on your hand, a steak, that's a rare steak. if you make a tighter fist, that's a medium rare steak and if you take a tight fist, that's a well done steak. that's the simplest thing you can do, just make a fist and know how that feel. >> how do you survive a bar fight? >> i thought how do you fight the power? no, the key to surviving a bar fight, there's a few things you need to know. the biggest thing i tell people is one, know where the exit is. two. never make sure the guy you're squaring off against is the biggest guy in the bar. n
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and three, always go for the eyes. all bets are off. crawl mcgraw. somebody's coming at you, go right for the eyes, the groin, the places that are going to make somebody get out of a fight quickly. >> that's not manly. >> i disagree. keeping all your teeth and leaving a bar in tact, that's manly. >> i think this is all really funny and love the idea of this, but isn't some of it kind of subjective? for example, to which the idea of a man i'm with wearing skinny jeans makes me want to stick my finger in my eye and twirl it around. i want to go to a nascar bar, watch a race, go hunting, fishing with my guy. is maybe some of this one person's opinion of what mansome is? >> i think i've just fallen in love, s.e. you and i are going to a jeff gordon sports bar. i've got a can of pbr with your name on it.
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>> make it a tony stewart bar. >> i think there is a little something for everybody. i don't think you want guys walking around in eye liner. i certainly don't. i want guys to be manly, but at the same time, not be afraid to take a shower once in a while. smell nice. >> sure. >> morgan, i'll give you her e-mail after the show. thanks for coming by. on a serious note, yesterday, hollywood's director the man behind "top gun" and many other films died after jumping off a bridge in l.a. police found the suicide note in his car. police are looking into the -- inoperable brain cancer. his career was still hot. his next project was supposed to be top gun 2. here's a bit from the original.
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davis loves that song. hope he realizes that first verse is about betrayal. he was an early obama endorser, which figures because they've been friends since law school and the '80s. now, he's preparing to speak at next week's republican convention where he'll be like judas in a suit and tie. guess he doesn't feel like he's better off now than four years ago. see, what happened, two years ago, davis ran for governor of alabama, so far to the right he reputeuated himself on the affordable care act and lost the the democratic primary by 24 points. even lost his own district. he then packed and moved to virginia and the party of lincoln. now, he's just a few days wa way from his grand unveiling as a new republican trophy, critiquing obama and providing the illusion of inclusion in the midst of what many have called the southern strategy 2.0. davis has joined a party
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littered with people who still think he's muslim and obstructed government to keep him from being elected, people who disenfranchise davis' family members. he's asking for a new lease on his political life. good luck with ta. sometimes, i wonder if i could do that. i'd be much bigger, a black guy in the gop. probably make me a financial overnight. but a cart ton full of ambien would have to get me to sleep. i believe in a woman's right to choose, a civil safety net and rights. i couldn't switch parties and philosophies like i'm switching from coke to pepsi. where davis sees greater career advancement potential. call me naive, but i think you should move through this game called politics believing in something. ed kilgore wrote -- will be
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privately contemptous of him. >> i remember covering congress in 2005 and meeting with one of his aides who laid out the plan for me then that 2010 was the year. this is before barack obama was running for president and it was not uncommon in washington for people to look at davis and say here's your first black president. the plan in 2005 was to position himself for governor of alabama in 2010, prove a black guy could win a southern state. that loss in 2010 was not an ordinary loss. that was a total political career meltdown for this guy. he's been trying to get back into politics. interesting to me how he's settled on this. >> and look at there. my man, martin bashir is back. >> in the words of barbara lewis, seems