that's all for this edition of "caught on camera." there's only one way out of here. i'm going to leave here in a body bag. >> i had three life sentences, and i figured there was never any way i was ever going to get out legally, so i figured i had nothing to lose. so i'd escape any chance i got. >> i have a 14-year-old son.

almost a 7-year-old daughter. it means everything to me. i can't wait to get home. i just don't want to let them down, ever again. they call it short-timer's disease. all you want to do is go home. nothing is okay. nothing is all right. everybody around you gets on your nerves. you just want to go.

>> my daughter's birthday is next month. so it would mean the world to me and to her if i could get home for her birthday. >> got a minute, janine? >> yeah. >> i'm hoping that i can get the wheels of justice to turn and get something done. >> what can i do for you? >> a lot. i have been submitted for two lump sums. one is for 30 for education and one is for 60 for work. they got submitted the week of the 20th, and my -- i know that i usually have to wait for committee and the normal process, but i'm hoping to get my paperwork pushed through as soon as possible. if they do, it's possible i could get out the 3rd of july. the reason why i'm stressing is my daughter's birthday is next month. i'm really trying my best to get out before her birthday. i'm in there -- >> i cannot promise you --

>> i know. >> -- it will get pushed through because we don't do that. otherwise we would always be pushing through. that's what happens at the end of everybody's sentence at level two. you know how that works. otherwise you are scheduled to get out in august. correct? >> yes. i was talking to -- >> okay. because you won't go to committee until i get the paperwork, the referral from education, and then once i get that, then we can set you up for committees. i can find out. if i can find it today, i will look for you and have you sign it. >> okay. that's all i can ask for. i understand everything's -- >> all right. >> thanks, janine. >> all right. >> it's frustrating because it just takes people doing paperwork and signing and putting it through. sometimes it can take up to four months. if that's the case, all the classes and everything i took will basically be pointless. except for educating me, of course. but they give you incentive programs to be good and get out, but when you take advantage of them, it doesn't always work out like you think it will. hopefully it works out. i expect it not to, but i'm

hoping it does. and for my kid's sake, i've got the try. you know, if i've got to bug them and they get tired of me and they start yelling at me, you know, so be it. this is my life. i always thought i was a good dad until this happened, and a good dad doesn't leave their kids, you know? >> what's your plans when you see them? >> just hold them. hold them and never let them go. i just don't want to let them down ever again. >> over at the level five facility, another father reunites with his son inside pnm. >> i've been in prison since -- well, off and on since '82. this time i have been in since 2002. >> why? >> drugs.

>> i guess that we both got caught up in drugs and we're both here. >> what kind drugs? using, selling? what? >> both. >> when i look at him, it's like looking at myself. two, three months after he was born, i got locked up. when i got out, you know, he was already grown. you know what i mean? i would still go and try to explain to him that i love him. >> i think he would just go see me at my grandma's and stay an hour or two and leave. >> i feel kind of hurt. and i feel like it's my fault that he's there. >> i wouldn't say that. i would say that he's never raised me or spent more than two, three days with me at a time. so i don't see how he can influence me in anything. >> i would like to see us get a lot more closer, to, you know, where we can really sit down and talk. >> today officers agree to allow father and son inmates, robert jr. and robert sr., to meet in a supervised setting and we can

see how years apart have taken a toll on this relationship. >> reason i wasn't there for you amigo, you already know, being locked up all this time. i think if i would have stayed around, things might have been different. you know how it is. that's the way i was brought up. just like you, you know what i mean? and getting into the drugs, that's what really brought me down. if i would have did it different, i know you wouldn't be here and i wouldn't be here, you know what i mean? it's kind of hard to see what was here, you know what i mean? almost on the same charges and everything. if i could, i would change everything. you know what i mean? it is kind of weird talking to you now, because we haven't really sat down to talk in,

what, since you were, what, 11, was i think the last time? it's been like 20-some years. that's kind of -- kind of weird, you know. but it feels good talking to you. you know what i mean? >> yeah. never too late. >> yeah. never too late. >> what are your thoughts? >> i know it's hard for him to even talk to me about it. i don't know, i'm trying to put myself in his position, but i don't have kids. i understand some of the stuff he went through with the drugs, because i went through the same thing. i think a lot of the times he thinks that i don't like him. it ain't like that. >> what are your hopes? do you have any hopes as far as your relationship with your father? >> just to get to know him and let the past go. before i didn't used to like him, but i didn't even know him. i guess i had something against him for not being there or something. i guess now i just got to let it go, you know.

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the penitentiary of new mexico holds some of the most violent offenders in the state. in our four months there, we saw some of the violence firsthand. but in 1980, pnm was site of one of the deadliest u.s. prison riots where inmates killed 33 of their own. >> it jumped off in february, almost by accident. the big thing i couldn't get out of my head is that we actually did it. we actually took the place over. >> james whittington survived the riot to return to the old

main facility to show our producers what he witnessed. >> 27 years ago when i got up out of here. i didn't think i would ever see it again. leadership of the inmates at that time, decided, hey, you know, this control center is takable. there was a huge industrial fire extinguisher that used to sit on one of these walls on hooks. three individuals lifted that and set to work on this window right here. banging. the window began to give in. all three of these windows were taken out. >> once they broke that, they had access to the entire facility. they had full control. >> this is where it all turned bad after they busted up and got their hands on the dope. >> there's different kinds of psychotic drugs and whatever. and everybody was taking them, just went crazy. >> it was a madhouse, it really was. >> guys being stabbed, heads cut off.

pipes going through their heads, you know. unimaginable things. you couldn't ever even think of, you know. >> one of the inmates came down from the dormitory areas. and he had on his belt, tied to his side, the human head of a black man. this individual proceeded to take this head off his waist, he had it tied there, he untied it, and gripped this head by his hair and he went over to that young guard that was crying, and he ordered that guard to kiss that head. and the inmates that were cornered in cellblock four never had a prayer. >> cell block four was the pc, protective custody unit. >> the rapists, you know, the child molesters, the snitches. >> i was told that the inmates in this -- on this side were

actually flashing their lights sos, morse code. looking for the outside to come in and help them. >> you can hear the yelling and screaming and, you know, people yelling for help. >> inmates, i heard, were tied up on these railings and thrown over and hung. some were just tossed off from mainly the third tier, the tier above us. this black mark is actually the outline of a body of an inmate that they used the remainder of the torch on. i think his name was perry. he had a lot of enemies in population. that outline there on the floor is permanently there. it will not come up. >> some of the groups that were holding the officers hostage were attacked by other groups of inmates. the hostages were taken from them, dressed in inmate clothes, slipped out of the prison and subsequently, those prisoners that did that got pardons.

>> after a 36-hour stand-off, exhausted, hungry and freezing, inmates surrendered to the national guard. >> when it finally was over, we came in with the national guard, the state police. and we rushed in and first thing that i had encountered when i walked in by the control center, a body right there, underwater. that i tripped over. and i could still see his face. >> i was in wyoming when the riot happened. i was watching on tv and everything, seeing all the guys in the yard. and then that's when they told me that i was lucky to get out. they would have killed you in the riot. he's in pc now, cellblock four. i heard he was tortured with a cetaline torch. one of the torches they used to cut into the cell blocks and stuff. two weeks after they transferred me back to new mexico, and the gym was still burning.

i was put in cellblock two, you know. national guard was still feeding meals and stuff like that. that's when i learned they said, we just notified your parents, you're dead, you know? i said, i'm not dead, not yet. but one of the national guard, he said look, he said write a short note to your parents. you have to keep it short and everything. i will take it out and mail it. and that's what i did. i wrote my mom. let her know i was still okay. >> years after the riot, having been transferred out of and back into pnm, jimmy kinslow escaped from the newly built level six facility. >> shortly after i arrived, i was approached through some friends that i met, would by interested in possibly escaping with them? then, so young, and facing so much time, never the possibility of getting out, i said, sure, you know, i'm ready. let's go. what can i do to help?

>> this is the x-pod. this is where the individual masterminded the whole situation, the escape. >> get a gun smuggled in. a little .22 magnum pistol. >> this is the janitor's closet where they had the weapons stored or hidden, whoever brought it in. and the inmates came in here, pretending he was getting the cleaning supplies and instead he picked up a handgun. >> i was still in my cell. and we seen him through the door, you know, walk the guard over. so we knew it was going down. and he had that officer at gunpoint, and as you can see up to the control center from here. >> evidently, the control officer was arguing with him. i found out later, he thought it

was a toy gun or something. and we discussed before, you know, we didn't want to shoot nobody or anything unless it was absolutely necessary. so he just shot him in the shoulder, let him know it was real. he let the rest of us out. so we went out the roof escape hatch, and then used the alarm wires to help us stay plansed on top of the wall partition that went out to the sally port. >> what happened is we didn't have this razor wire in here, this gate wasn't here, the inmates were able to walk this wall right on top, go over the fence, and go down. >> make a mad sprint across the parking lot, and hopefully we wouldn't be shot at from the tower. >> during that summer months, we would assign an officer to the tower until 8:00. so there was nobody in the towers, which gave them the opportunity to escape. and now that tower is manned 24 hours a day.

blocks down, we separated and went our own ways. and i did what i had to do, take hostages, to get me through a police checkpoint. let them go, alive, after i got through. and we met back up in california. >> what i didn't know is they were already under fbi surveillance when i got there. the guy jumped out. he had a shotgun. pulled my gun. if i didn't see all them guys in black from behind -- i looked up, i was looking at about ten submachine guns. well, might have to re-evaluate this, you know. laid the gun down. >> jimmy has only been back at pnm for a few days, after being away nearly two decades, and he's already butting heads with staff. >> who's going to handle it? that's the thing i'm saying is, no one is supposed to touch it. >> i understand what you're saying me, but you need to be writing it on paper. i can't help you. he can. you know what i mean? does!

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in most prison systems, sex offenders would have to be kept in protective custody units for their own security. but in this prison, they're trying a program that allows sex offenders to live in a dormitory setting with other general population inmates. >> it is called cru which stands for community reintegration unit but commonly known as a sex offender unit. >> i'm 35 years old. i'm in prison for having molested a family member when she was between the ages of 8 and 12. and at first, you know, just between and you me. at the end it was pretty much, you know what? i don't care if you want to stop or not. i need this. i don't know how to stop. >> community reintegration unit is based on cognitive behavior therapy. there is pretreatment, intensive treatment, and prerelease treatment. during their intensive treatment

is when they actually have to admit their crime, and they work on their issues. >> i think it's helped a lot. it's helped a helluva lot. i now have a lot more tools to deal with issues that still affect me, a lot of my issues from back then don't affect me anymore. i'm not saying that they are gone. but i know how to deal with them now. >> the reason for the sex offender program is such a high profile issue, and, quite frankly, the other reason is that sex offenders are going to get out of prison anyway. so we -- we are doing our best to rehabilitate them. because it is relatively new, we don't have statistics as far as recidivism rate, but we do know that we're giving them the tools to survive without re-offending out in society. >> it's liberating. it's like a weight off my shoulders. i'm not hiding anymore.

i found out that i'm not the only one. >> historically, in all prison settings, sex offenders are low man on the totem pole, so to speak. inmates can't tolerate sex offenders. they really don't even like living in the same prison with them. >> you hear all the stories about this happens to sex offenders, you know, stabbings, beatings, rape. that's still a very fresh memory also. so i was scared. >> today, alex's worries are focused not on his safety in prison, but his re-entry committee meeting about his release, which is just months away. >> re-entry committee is pretty much where i meet with all the department heads. mental health, security, education. they go over all of the things -- the classes and programs that i've taken while i've been in here and give me any suggestions about what they think would be helpful for me when i leave. >> alex is here for criminal sexual penetration of a minor, criminal sexual contact of a minor.

he's serving 18 years, incarcerated since 2000. no recommendations, attended inpatient/outpatient treatment. since his incarceration, six misconduct reports. all minor. basically possession of contraband items. >> what did you have? >> lighter, tobacco. one time i got caught with a pornography. >> okay. you admitted to a drinking problem. what drugs besides alcohol do you use? >> i've experimented with methamphetamine, cocaine, marijuana. >> not a member of any gangs? >> oh, no, no, no, no. >> you've taken fiber-optic classes, a copper-based class, intro to telecommunications. so you've done quite a bit. what kind of work history do you have? i know you have prior military service. what kind of other work do you have? >> i've worked in the telecommunications field as a cable puller and installer.

i worked in cabinet and door shops. carpentry. pretty much anything that's labor-intensive, i've done. i use heavy equipment. >> so my recommendations is that you continue classes, and when you get out, i imagine you want to get a degree? >> yes. >> that's my recommendation for you. >> your last job, how long did you have it? >> seven months. >> where was that? >> because i got arrested. >> this is your first term in new mexico? >> yes. and my last. >> basic conditions of parole, no drugs, no weapons, no alcohol. no liquor establishments. are you familiar with what your requirements are as a sex offender? >> pretty much. as far as the registration, where i can live. how close to schools, parks, stuff like that, i'm pretty up to date on that. >> okay. you have ten days to register after you're released. it's different in albuquerque than in las vegas. when you go in to the sheriff's department, ask them how often you have to report.

i know in some counties it is 60 days, some 90 days and some it's every year. okay. you will be on gps. it's a requirement. okay? and as soon as we have an approval, we'll schedule you for the next month's parole board. >> all right. i volunteered for every class that i can take, and i'm hoping that this last few months, i can kind of relax and get prepared mentally for getting sout. still ahead, an inmate transfers to pnm after attacking an officer at another prison. >> he ended up getting hurt pretty bad, i guess. here's my morning routine. gotta start the day off right. wardrobe. cute. then new activia breakfast blend. a great way to help start the day. mmm... creamy lowfat yogurt with grains in yummy breakfast flavors, like apple cinnamon. its hearty, with twice the protein of regular lowfat yogurt and helps regulate your digestive system.

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. i'm milissa rehberger. here's what's happening. officials are working to relieve pressure on a lock that is in danger of failing and flooding hundreds of homes near a canal in louisiana's st. tammany parish. residents have been ordered to evacuate. president obama has wrapped up the second of two campaign rallies in iowa today, as part

of his tour of battleground states leading up to the democratic convention. and for their part, mitt romney and paul ryan held a joint appearance in jacksonville, florida. now back to "lockup." ♪ oh how i've waited for so long ♪ let them go! get up! >> sergeant sandoval has been employed at pnm since 1975.

from the riot in 1980 to jimmy kinsallow's 1978 escape, he's seen it all. and sandoval is no stranger to life-and-death situations. >> we're transferring inmates to texas to make room because we are so overcrowded. he walked into the office. the inmate had his hands in his pockets. he had his head down and started talking about, you know, he didn't want to go to texas. if he went to texas, that he was going to hurt somebody. when he said that, the lieutenant was sitting right here next to him, female. i looked at her. i told her, just get out. you know. i didn't say it loud, he didn't hear. she stormed out, locked the door. i'm looked in there with him. and then he pulled out the knife. the officers were trying to rush him, but the door was locked. i had the keys. he didn't know that. so i told the officers just back up.

i stood in the corner. i'm just waiting for him to make his move. finally i told him, you know what, it's not worth it. you're not going to get nothing out of this. best thing to do is throw the weapon. and he said, they're going to rush in and beat me up. i said, nobody's going to hurt you. just do what i tell you. i said, put it right here, right next to my feet. and i stepped on it. i said i want you to lie on the floor, put your hands on your back, face down, cross your legs. i will open the door, two officers cuffed him, and they took him out. >> unfortunately things didn't go as smoothly for an officer at another new mexico prison. >> we're getting jacob travis in. he's an inmate that just assaulted an officer. broke the officer's nose. had several bite marks all over him. he did a pretty good job on the officer. this guy's going to be a three-man supervisor. he's going to be in your unit in

d-1 until further notice. we need to use caution. as soon as we open the doors and talk to the inmate and feel him out, see why he's so angry. be careful. >> how is he acting? fine? no problem? he's a high-profile case from reading his file. has a lot of problems with outside gangs and inside gangs. there's a lot of concern because a lot of the gang members that he -- the gang he testified against, they are here. so we're going to have to be on our toes once they found out he's here, and keep a close eye on our movement in and out of the unit with him, and make sure he has no contact with any other inmates. >> i got a lot of enemies. >> the inmate from new mexico central correctional, apa. he assaulted a staff member over there. the officer was escorting him out of his cell with him restrained in the front. the inmate advised the officer

that he forgot his soap inside the cell, so they went back in the cell, and the inmate closed the door behind him, pulled the officer in. the inmate closed the door and assaulted the officer. >> okay, well, this jacobs has quite an extensive history. make sure the staff are aware of his propensity for this guy to carry out violent acts like that. we need to make sure medical does a thorough check on this individual because the walls have closed in on this guy, and he's a little psychologically challenged right now. he was here for quite a bit of time. went to central because of his psychological issues. so it appears he's still very unstable. you're going to have to determine this individual's state of mind and see where he's at. is he still hostile, is he still wanting to fight? make sure we don't have a further incident. >> inmate jacob chavez agrees to talk to our crew and tell his version of the story. >> all i remember is grabbing him and telling him, don't be disrespecting me like that. and then he said -- so i don't

even remember what he said. but i just started -- i just started letting him have it, you know? punching, kicking, everything. you know, i let him have it. he ended up being hurt pretty bad, i guess. basically the officer challenged me to a fight. i said, open the door. you know what i mean? they opened the door. he entered my cell without me being handcuffed. you know, what i was told, if somebody ever goes in your cell like that and you're not handcuffed, you have the right to protect yourself. especially if you know he's going in there to cause you harm. they're going to do everything in their power to make life miserable for me. and it's already happening. throwing me in the cell with nothing and tell me like i'm going to be that for 90 days. >> what cell is this that i'm seeing you in now and why are you here? >> this is a suicidal cell. >> can you tell me why it is better for you to be here than back there in one of the cells? >> because back there, i got to listen to everybody, you know, laughing and joking. watching their tvs and listening

to their radios while i'm sitting in the cell with nothing. you know what i mean? the same thing i got in here is the same thing i have over here, you know what i mean? it ain't no different. except over here, i get a little more attention, you know? >> are you suicidal? >> no. >> what is your mental health situation? >> you mean am i taking medication and stuff? yeah, i'm taking medication. >> for what? >> for anxiety. i'm supposed to be on other stuff, too, for depression and stuff like that, too, but i refuse to take it all. you know what i mean? >> why? >> for the simple fact it slows me down. i don't think it works. and i get paranoid. sometimes it's not even reality. it's like, am i still alive? am i here? can anybody see me? you know what i mean? next, haley won't make his daughter's birthday party. and he might not even get out on time. >> is there any other counties that you may have a traffic violation in or anything -- >> nothing that hasn't been paid

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jimmy kinslow just recently transferred back to pnm from another prison but he has yet to receive all of his belongings. >> i'll open it up and let the cos look at everything i have in there, so they can see it all. you know, visual inspection. i appreciate it if they don't touch it, because my bag was blessed by a medicine man in oklahoma before it was sent to me. >> okay. >> native american belief is you use sacred herbs for your spirit guides and spirit helpers. to make your prayers be heard in the spirit world is to carry it on the herbs, given to us the by the creator. without it you can't do the rituals, ceremonies and stuff like that. can't do the chants.

it sanctifies everything. the medicine bag has been especially blessed by the elder and everything. >> the warden understood it was religious material, he thought it might be a bible. he didn't understand that it was native american religious material. and so i guess he wants it gone through first. i just called the warden now. he doesn't have a problem with you getting it, jimmy. >> i didn't want all of them. all i wanted was my medicine bag. i got approvals for it. >> okay. >> all i wanted was the medicine bag, the sage, cedar, and the other herbs i need to do my prayers. it's in a little small leather pouch. >> okay. this is what the captain told me now. he will take you over there first thing in the morning but you can't get to it right now. >> i went over there and said right there -- sat right there. it was on the cart. >> they -- >> no. officer wouldn't let me have it. he said i don't think you are indian, you know. >> okay.

all right. well, i don't see an issue with it. but -- i did call the warden. warden said okay. >> i just don't see the problem with being able to say prayers, you know. >> me either. me either. maybe i can talk to the manager and, you know, he would have time to get somebody to walk you over there. >> if you walk me over there, i'll spread it out. i'll let the officer look at it. >> okay. all right. let me see what i can do. no promises. >> i appreciate it. >> i'll still try. >> i'm telling you, just two minutes, i'm in and out. >> okay. all right. >> for me personally, that's the only way i have found just to even survive in prison. it's become so important. it's just a part of what i rediscovered. a lot of it is a coping mechanism. because you go through all the trauma, you know, of killing innocent people and stuff like that. it's like the prayer tithe offerings you make.

each prayer tithe, you make that with the individual prayer to your specific victim and everything. that prayer is sent to the spirit world and it goes directly to your victim, asking for -- like, forgiveness and stuff like that. and that's important. >> i have a question for you. on kinslow's religious articles, his native articles. they won't give them to him today. >> why? >> because they're saying that he needs to go through it and you need to decide what he can and can't have. but it's all sitting there in a small pouch. >> if it's on the matrix, he's allowed it. do you want me to double check? >> could you do that, please? he's been here since tuesday and has been asking for it every day.

if we could get it to him, it would be a good thing. all right. thanks. >> cory, what i need you to do is inmate kinslow, tell him to give me a written request, as soon as possible. address it to me, requesting his religious items. and what i'll do is i'll look at it and see [ inaudibleif i can through. tell him i will do my very best to get it today. but if not, i will definitely address it on monday. here's a copy. you can give this to him to show him what he is allowed. all right. >> kinslow. come here. i'm going to give you this. it's what you're allowed to have as far as religious medallions and things like that. the unit manager wants you to write a letter to him, stating

what you want. and said he would try to do his best to get it to you by the end of the day. >> they won't take me over and let me get it? who's going to handle it? the thing i'm saying is, no one is supposed to touch it. to touch it without my permission is a sacrilege. it defames it. >> all right. i understand what you're saying. and that's why i'm telling you to put down your instructions on the paper, so he knows that, because he wants it all in written form. if i go back and tell them -- >> the thing of the matter is it is right there in the property. if they take me over, i can pull it out and let them visually inspect it. >> i understand. you need to write it on paper for him. i can't help you, he can. do you know what i mean? write it out and i will be back in a little while. i will grab it from you and take it to him. >> in less than 24 hours, kinslow hopes to have his religious items returned. but over in level two, haley french hopes he will be getting back his freedom.

>> i'm waiting to see what the case worker is going to tell me about paroling out of here tomorrow at noon, hopefully. hopefully. i'll believe it when i'm walking out the door. until then i'm anxiously waiting. >> hey, bonita. this is janine rodriguez now. i'm calling about inmate haley french, d.o.b., 1/10/1971. >> unfortunately, i missed my daughter's birthday. but better late than never, i figure. what i plan on doing is going home and getting a great big box, wrapping it up, telling her -- having my dad or somebody tell her that she got a late birthday present, and when she opens it up, there i am. >> do you need to see me again? >> hey, did you have time to get that stuff filled out? your checkout list? >> yes. >> you got it all done? >> yes. >> i did a warrant check, pending charges. is there any other counties you may have a traffic violation or anything? >> i've never been arrested before in my life --

>> traffic violation? >> nothing. >> speeding? >> nothing that hasn't been paid. >> for whatever reason, if i'm not here, your i.d. is in your envelope with your gratuity. okay. >> excellent. can i ask how much it is? >> it is for a total of $260.29. >> okay. >> sound right? >> yep. thank you. >> see you tomorrow. >> all right. >> receiving the green light for his release from prison, haley makes what he hopes is his last prison phone call to his family. >> hey, babe. what are you doing? they did all my -- everything came back good. i'm good to go. everything should be good. well, just double-check. make sure there are socks, boxers. yeah, yeah. all the necessities. anyway, i love you. you take care. all right, bye.

>> i'm excited. i'm ready. looking forward to hanging out with my kids and seeing my little girl. >> what's your countdown right now? >> i don't even want to count. it's like 20 hours, something like that. not soon enough. i can't wait. i can't wait for this. he'd tell me, what are you going to do in the meantime? you're going to wait. that's it. that's all there is too it. i won't sleep. i went and worked out. i'll go work out again tonight, try and get as tired as possible, try to get some sleep. i haven't been sleeping the past week, week and a half. too nervous about it. still ahead, haley's home free. and kins llow's back in touch wh his heritage. >> you have so little in prison. the spiritual becomes, actually important. what was i supposed to wish for? why am i wearing a bow-tie?

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they said i would be able to go through the native-american religious stuff that i was allowed to have in my cell and everything. that's what we're doing now. >> one medicine bag. >> the medicine bag. >> one religious -- >> all i wanted was the small medicine bag. i got a medicine prayer wheel. >> okay -- >> that goes around -- and one feather. and one that goes in the medicine bag. >> this is it right here, right? >> yeah. >> let me lay it out. >> all right. >> there's the spirit bundle. this is what -- you'd normally hold your -- like when i went through puberty rites and everything, you go through the fasting and the prayers and everything when you're 12. and you find your guardian spirit. mine was revealed to me after fasting, it was the silver fox.

so i keep the tail of the silver fox as part of when i do my rituals and everything, because that is my guiding spirit and spirit helper. this will be the medicine bag. this is the one you keep for your personal religious items. you have small amounts of different herbs that you use. tobacco, bare root, samg, cedar, and stuff like that you use in your prayer ceremonies and everything. here's white sage. this is the special sage you use for purifying your living space and everything. you don't actually have to burn this to get the purifying results out of it. i'll take that. here's the eagle feather. i was worried about that. that it didn't get broken or anything. this is the american bald eagle. we get them out of the conservancy in colorado. they harvest the eagles when they die and everything for native american rituals. you have to apply for it.

this is like a little medicine wheel prayer symbol. it's carved out of the elk bone. i wasn't for sure whether the feather would cancel out this, you know, the medallion, or this. >> obviously if you're going to wear a religious article, you can wear it one at a time. i don't have a problem with that being in the cell, the feather, and you taking that as well. i think we'll be fine with that. because you're not going to wear the feather. >> no, no. >> so i don't see that that would be an issue. >> you have so little in prison and everything. the spiritual becomes vastly important. >> i would definitely say during my early years that they done the right thing by locking me up. i was too messed up. i really was. and i hope that when i do die, that people can look back and say well, the person that he did become in his later years would bear no resemblance to the person he was when he was 18, 19, 20. i wish i could get out.

i totally understand why no one would ever even ask, even float the idea of me ever getting out. >> back in level two, the day haley french has been anxiously awaiting for more than six years has finally arrived. >> i don't know what time it is, but today is the day that i get the hell out of here. i deserve to do time for what i've done. it was wrong, you can't go wrong and beating people up. if i could do it over again, i would have just bought it again. i figure in seven years, i could have bought it how many times? you know? i can't get seven years back. they're gone. i can't see my daughter learn how to walk or say her first words. that's gone. that's priceless.

>> here you go, sir. go ahead and go change. >> how's it feel? >> it feels good. >> this is for your gratuity. $260.29. that's what your check is made out to. so if you'll sign right here for me. okay. now, you want to report from your p.o. from here to there. just get it out of the way. it will only take about five, ten minutes. and then go about your day. when you leave, i let them know that you are leaving.

i call them or e-mail them and let them know you're on your way. >> any idea where you want to eat first? >> red lobster. on his dollar. okay. >> that's it. good luck. don't come back, now. take care. >> we'll leave the light on for you. >> no way, man. have a good day. bye. thank you. >> everybody's got a lesson to learn, one way or another. i guess this was mine. nice to be finally able to touch it and get in. are