tv Lockup Tampa MSNBC October 14, 2012 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. if you want to live in this population as a child molester, you're going to pay me, or else i'm going to kick your ass. >> an inmate with a long record runs an extortion scheme. >> the hustle never sleeps. never sleeps. >> you didn't have any second
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thoughts when you were ingesting golf-ball-sized pills? >> drugs inside the jail pose a lethal threat. >> you could have signed your death warrant right there. >> and the search is on as the jail's newest team member makes her presence known. >> visitation, phone calls, will be shut down. you give my deputy a hard time, we going to run a military style strip. located on the gulf coast of the sunshine state, tampa, florida, is a gleaming city. >> there used to be a motto here, tampa is where the good life gets better every day. >> but a dark cloud has steadily cast a shadow over tampa. >> we saw the prescription drug
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abuse epidemic really start to appear on the radar here in the tampa area. and it continued to grow. and the result now is our drug treatment systems are taxed to the limits. and our county jails are now becoming taxed to the limits. >> colonel jim, a former secret service agent, runs the two facilities that make up the hillsboro county jail system. located just outside downtown tampa, the jail has a capacity of 3,000 inmates. and four miles away, the orient road jail has room for 1,700. it's also the site of intake, where men and women are processed into the jail. >> line up along the wall here. >> unlike prison, where all the inmates are convicted, the majority of jail inmates have only been charged with the crime and are awaiting trial for the resolution of their cases. but these days, many of them first arrive in a similar state.
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>> what is this? orient? >> in hillsboro. >> in hillsboro? yep. >> we are seeing more and more men and women arrive in our doors in a state of opiate withdrawal. it's not a black issue, a white issue, it's not a hispanic issue, it's not an old issue, it's not a young issue, it's not a rich issue, it's not a poor issue. it crosses all lines. people feel it's okay to eat the stuff like candy because a doctor gave it to them. these irresponsible physicians have legalized it in many people's eyes. >> while some overprescribing doctors might be at the root of tampa's drug problem, once the pills reach the street, people like jessica come into play. >> when you have an addiction, you're going to get it. it doesn't matter if you get it from a drug dealer, country matter if you get it from the doctor. if they don't get it from me
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they'll get it from somebody else. >> i know you're happy to see me. >> she's been charged with trafficking vicodin, burglary and dealing in stolen properties. she's pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. and though she's never been convicted for it, she admits to having dealt drugs in the past. >> it's fast money. easy lifestyle to live just because the money comes so fast. >> not too shabby. >> it's easy to get. it's easy to learn how to do. >> look what we're eating for lunch. >> sandwiches. >> this is a mess. >> being here has opened up my eyes to like this woman is addicted to whatever her addiction is, and i kind of helped her get there. not me specifically, but drug dealers in general, we need them. >> this is graniela's time in
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jail. she's currently housed in the 72-woman dorm. at the falkenberg road facility. >> to put 72 women in a big room together, we're all emotionally stressed, all have their periods, you have too many personalities and too many attitudes and too many emotions and feelings for everybody to get along. i'm not making no promises. >> but it's not worth. >> ain't nobody really worth me arguing over, like, i'm going to hold my tongue. >> in the three months she's been in jail, graniela has received multiple writeups for minor infractions such as arguing with other inmates. >> i just have a bad attitude, and if i feel that i have something to say, whether it's going to hurt your feelings or not, i'm going to say it. >> she is the kind of inmate who always seems to have the manipulating thing going on and she's always arguing with everybody. it doesn't matter if it's staff or other inmates. >> i have tried to talk to my
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friend about her behavior. >> the keyword she used, try. >> try. it did not work. >> what does the conduct record show? >> not good. not good at all. giving the deputies a hard time, had a bad attitude. always talking back, being belligerent toward staff. >> to me, a verbal confrontation is not that serious. it's like okay, we had a disagreement and that's it. >> let's go. lockdown. >> but to them it's like you guys are arguing. you guys have to be separated completely. >> so far, graniela's violations have not been serious enough to place her in one of the jail's confinement units where she would be locked in her cell 23 hours a day. that's where steven caponi has spent the last nine months. >> they're going to put me back in population, i told them, oh, no, i'm not going back in population.
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very comfortable where i am right now. got nobody in my face. i've got privacy. i like where i am right now. >> caponi had been out of prison for 90 days, on parole for sexual battery, when he was arrested for allegedly attempting to hold up a bank. and a sandwich shop. he's pled not guilty to two armed robbery charges and is now awaiting trial. caponi was removed from general population. >> all right. we're going to do a strip search. >> and placed in this confinement unit for extorting other inmates who he says were child molesters. >> if umt to live in this population as a child molester, you're going to pay me, or else i'm going to kick your ass. bottom line. >> caponi says he would force his victims to put money on his books.
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a debit account from which inmates purchase snacks and toiletries from the jail canteen. >> at times it's about who's got the most money. who's got the most money goes to the sweetest bid. i'm your best friend when i'm extorting you. i don't just say you're going to give me this or that or i'm going to kill you. it doesn't work like that. i'm going to approach you and be your best friend. you're going to confide me all your deepest secrets. and once i have that, your strengths and weaknesses, then i can dwell on that. and like i said, the ones that i was extorting, yeah, yeah, they admitted it. so, no, i don't feel bad by what i did to them because they don't feel bad what they did to those kids. coming up, a surprise shakedown led by a sergeant with a no-nonsense reputation. >> you give my deputy a hard time, we're going to run it military style, strict. >> and later jessica graniel faces a harsh new reality.
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you tearing up my property, is that where we're going with this? one-way trip, dude, and you're never coming out. >> sergeant sarah herman came to the hillsboro county jail in tampa, florida, after a career in television marketing. >> after 9/11, i wanted to do something a little bit different, something a little bit more meaningful. tell me what keeps brings you back here. it's fulfilled everything i want to do when it comes to helping people. sometimes we don't feel like we're making a difference. you're going to get a second chance. every day is a different day. but if you just touch one little person, one little word, i don't know if it's helping, but it does for me and i like it. >> while sergeant herman was motivated by her desire to help people, she's anything but soft. >> zero tolerance. i don't want to see you anymore. >> she's known by inmates and
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staff alike as a commanding presence with a zero tolerance policy for breaking the rules. >> as you know, it's always an issue when it comes to contraband. >> after two in her unit were caught smoking tobacco, she decided to search the entire unit in a shakedown disguised as a fire drill. >> fire drill! fire drill! fire drill! let's go. everybody out! everybody out! >> come on! >> the ruse is intended to get inmates out of their cells into the recreation yard without time to dispose of contraband. >> all right. let's go. back wall. face the wall. your arms out of your shirts, gentlemen. >> deputies will be assisted in the search by the jail's newly arrived narcotics dog. her presence will come as a surprise to many of the inmates. >> it's a deterrence. it sends a strong message, do not in hillsboro county, do not bring drugs into our jail.
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>> when i get suspicious, i don't have all the senses it makes to find what i need to find. but i have tools, called canine. >> here. check. >> so if you want to bring it in, if you want more charges, bring it in because we're going to find it. we will be happy to put more criminal charges on you for introduction of contraband, specifically narcotics and tobacco. do i make myself clear on the contraband? >> yes, ma'am. >> part number two. attitudes in this pod cease from this moment going forward, unless you want to be on the 72-hour lock, that means nothing coming or going. canteen, visitation, phone calls will be shut down. you give my deputy a hard time, we're going to run it military style strict. do i make myself clear? >> yes, ma'am. >> i don't hear from five people. do i make myself clear? >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you. >> show me. where's it at? >> i think it was her just looking back.
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just have somebody check that room kind of thorough. >> she kind of likes this mattress. >> what we found in room ten is what we consider nuisance contraband, extra uniforms and then it looks like breakfast, leftover breakfast, things of that nature that attract bugs. so we try to keep the cells clean. >> make sure you flush the toilet. because sometimes they put stuff inside the toilet. >> doesn't look like -- might be pills crushed. >> you know what it looks like, it looks like aspirin. >> this time, the only drug that turns up is some crushed aspirin. >> good girl. that's a good girl. >> thank you for your hard work and your efforts. we sent a message, zero tolerance. thank you very much, guys. appreciate you. >> thank you, everybody. >> but the staff knows that keeping drugs out of the jail is a never-ending game of cat and mouse, and keeping up with the game is usually the first thing master deputy steven gray does when he arrives at work each morning.
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>> i got an e-mail this morning from an officer who wants me to look into a report. basically what we have here is a female inmate letting the pod deputy know that another female inmate had about 14 pills in her possession. so what they did was they took her into the strip search room along with a supervisor and observed her starting to chew something in her mouth and swallowing it. they took her to the medical unit to do some vomiting because they didn't know what she had swallowed. she did admit to having pills to the nurse but she did not know the name of the pills. this is something i will look into as far as interviewing the inmates involved, especially the who allegedly had the pills. it's been a day or so, so hopefully her attitude is where it needs to be. >> the following day, deputy gray and his partner begin the investigation. they will start by interviewing the inmate who tipped off the deputies. she has requested anonymity.
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>> do you know why you're here? >> no. >> i wanted to get to the bottom of the report written on the female in the pod that you let the deputy know that she had some pills in her possession. >> right. >> can you walk me through that whole scenario again as far as what was going on? >> she said she had found these pills in her room and asked what they were. >> okay. >> she was trying to sell them for canteen. >> is this like an all-day process she was trying to sell them? >> it was in the morning. there was hardly anybody up. >> okay. did you physically -- >> she had 14 pills in there. >> you physically saw these pills? >> they were wrapped in a walmart bag. they did come from outside. >> they were in a walmart bag. now, where was she coming from? was she new to the pod? she had been in there for a month. >> the captain told her if she got in trouble anymore that they would put her in charlie for her own protection. >> like i said, i appreciate you telling the deputy. you could have saved this girl's life. or what have you. i wish there was more people like you inside the jail. i think you did the right thing.
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>> the inmate accused of having the prescription drug stash and then swallowing it is one with a reputation for drug dealing. jessica greniela. >> like we had before. >> yes. sic, laughter stop ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite foods fight you, fight back fast with tums smoothies. so fast and smooth, you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums [ male announcer ] tums smoothies.
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with the capacity of nearly 5,000 inmates, 950 sworn deputies and 410 civilian employees, the hillsboro county jail in tampa, florida, is like a city unto itself. >> everybody, head on back to your bunks. we will be serving lunch, shortly. >> while safely securing inmates is the top priority, the jail is supported by a vast infrastructure that must complete a large number of tasks for a large number of inmates. the laundry facility alone is manned ten hours a day, seven days a week. >> we do approximately 12,000 pounds of laundry a day. >> james turner supervises the operation. >> all of the loads are weighed before they go in the wash. we're putting in 165 pounds. we're not overstuffing the washer.
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>> turner supplements his human staff with automation. >> folding machine makes everything the same size so when you have five items on a shelf, you get five items across the shelf. you have a dozen inmates folding. one's going to fold so wide, another one's going to be a little wider. >> looks like we're pacing ourselves today, then. >> working in the laundry is considered a privilege. inmates earn one day off their sentence for every six days they work. but the job does have its downside. >> this is like the biohazard bin. i got two set of gloves on. just have to watch out with this particular bin we have to watch out with it. you see all kinds of stuff. you see tampons attached to an underwear. you see doo-doo stains. discharges from people who might have something. you just have to get it in the wash.
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>> haf javier perez has been working in the jail. after getting caught up if tampa's prescription drug epidem epidemic. he's pled not guilty and is now awaiting trial. >> it was just a morphine-based chemical and the opportunity came across to try to make extra money and i tried to take it like an idiot. i made like $130. goes to show you i'm not that good, huh? i'm ready to change. it's definitely a wake-up call. >> not everyone who comes to jail sees it as an opportunity for change. the drug trade exists even on the inside. drugs are most commonly smuggled in through visitors or the mail. and once they're in, inmates create their own sales and distribution systems. >> the laundry room, as well as the kitchen, are the central hubs for the transportation of contraband throughout the
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facility. they'll put the contraband, whether it be drugs or weapons, they'll put it in a cart and they'll tag the cart in such a manner that the other inmates at the receiving end know this is the cart. it might be something as simple as flipping a shirt over or taping a piece of paper to the side of the cart. >> but the techniques inmates use to smuggle and deal drugs in jail are constantly evolving so deputies try to stay at least one step ahead. the jail recently acquired a new team member named benja. >> she's a narcotics dog. >> check. that a girl. >> she's trained to find all the different forms of cocaine, meth, heroin, cannabis, and recently fr lly trained her on oxycodone pills. >> you okay with the dogs? she's going to be off her leash and i'm going to let her do her thing. she's a big puppy. >> i think a lot of this job is
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going to be presence, just the inmates knowing that this dog is here and that we will be out looking for the drugs. i think we will deter it a good bit. >> whether directly or indirectly, drugs have led to the incarceration of many of the inmates at the hillsboro county jail. >> my drug of choice is crack. >> i've been charged with two robberies. one is an armed robbery, first degree. the other is a strong arm attempted robbery, second degree. i have no recollections whatsoever of doing these crimes. all i remember is leaving a crackhouse, waking up in a field. that's it. >> steven caponi's troubles didn't end there. in jail, he was extorting other inmates he says were child molesters. he would threaten them with violence if they didn't put money on his books. so he could buy snacks from the jail canteen. >> for one, it was $40 a week, from the second one it was about $80 a week. >> the hustle landed caponi in confinement.
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>> another day in paradise. >> he said he's enjoyed the solitude but after nine months is ready for a change. >> i'd like to be in population so i can be around people, play cards with somebody, talk to somebody. >> can i talk to you for a minute? >> yes, what's up? >> you know, did they get my request? >> she said she didn't get your request from you. >> what do i have to do? put another request? >> you didn't get nothing back from them? >> i didn't get nothing back. i put two of them in last week. >> during his time in confinement, caponi has run out of canteen snacks. >> i had a bunch of canteen in this corner. it's all gone now. i don't have anything anymore. >> and he has no money left on his books. >> i'm eating my fingernails. i don't even have any of those to eat. >> you think people are going to think you want to go back there to do your old tricks? >> that's exactly what they're going to think. he ain't got no money while in
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confinement. the reason he's out of confinement, he wants to hustle again, exactly what they're going to think. i don't care what they think. >> he might be trying to manipulate, but that's part of the game every day we go through. >> they'll probably keep him for a couple more weeks at least, but there's always that possibility if his behavior is good and they give him a shot back out in general population. >> all right, sir, here's the request slip. make sure you fill it out asking to go to general population. tell her, you know, you've been behaving. >> yep. >> worst case scenario if they let me out, i go back to extorting child molesters. i've got to leave them alone, i know that. sometimes it isn't easy, you know? coming up, under investigation for dealing drugs in jail, jessica graniela turns the tables on her accuser. >> i had seen her on the phone earlier. you could hear her, she was saying six this -- >> maybe pill numbers? >> yeah, she was saying numbers.
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here's what's happening. both president obama and mitt romney are off the campaign trail preparing for tuesday's crucial second presidential debate. felix baumgartner the first to break the speed of sound, made the jump of 24 miles wearing only a high-tech suit. after a long slow journey through the streets of l.a. the space shuttle "endeavour" reached its final resting place at the california science center on sunday. i'm veronica de la cruz. now back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. at the hillsboro county jail in tampa, florida, sentenced inmates work in a variety of capacities throughout the facility. there's a waiting list for the much coveted jobs and those who are lucky enough to hold them receive one day off their sentence for every six days
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worked. javier perez's job in the laundry facility has made the two months he's spent here awaiting trial go by a little easier. >> it's something to do, man. i mean, it didn't matter what it was. if they would have made me feed pigs all day long, i would have done that. >> when his morning shift is over, perez heads back to the dorms. >> 29, perez. >> once he's back at his bed, he often turns to a new time filler, poetry. >> my life comes and goes, where life can change, no one knows. how in life is love, many need a hug, where they need it is from heaven up above. >> it helps. something for me. you know, something for me to just get away. escape for a little while, you know? >> just two days after his arrest, perez's first child, a son, was born. >> i haven't even got a chance to hold him or meet him or anything. you know what i'm saying?
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just be able to touch him, for him to feel i'm there. i know he's missing me right now. i hear him cry over the phone. it's like, i'm coming, i'll be there soon. just hold on, little guy, my little buddy. it's hard, man. i made the choice. i made the choices. i'm in a room full of men. i got to be a man, you know? i got to be a man, i got to stand up for my mistake. i got to deal with it. it's hard. it really is hard. you know? >> but perez knows showing too much emotion here can be dangerous. >> you can't let people see you for what you are. that's where your weaknesses and your faults come in. people will ride that right to the bank. you have to be an actor while in jail, because sometimes you're going to have to be an act other than what you really are. >> steven caponi is a self-professed expert at taking advantage of vulnerable inmates. recently, hi request to move
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back to general population was granted. >> the sergeant gave me the third degree last night. before he even let me in the dorm. said, we ain't going to have no problems from you, are we? but this is jail, you have to do what you have to do. >> people know your business the second you walk in here. >> i want to keep things a little bit on the low-low. >> caponi's transfer isn't the only good news. >> we've got to eat. we've got to eat. >> his sister just put some money on his books so he can buy snacks from the jail canteen. >> we need the whole table, right? >> yeah, we need the whole table. >> caponi says this time around, instead of hustling canteen, he's sharing it. >> what did you get, a lot of sausage? >> he and inmates, kyle, and aaron, have pooled their snacks to make a jailhouse burrito. >> this right here is the bread and the noodles right here. >> which are already done. >> mixes in with the 16 slices of bread. what the bread is going to do is it's going to bulk it up, it's going to expand it.
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s. >> it's going to make a dough. we roll it out and make burrito dough. kind of like pizza dough. you know what i'm saying? pretty simple. >> we're rolling out the dough. >> deodorant, use as a roller. >> rachael ray, not only do we have the ultimate plan, but we've got the master plan. >> we take everything, cheese crackers, hot pickle. >> hot pickle, man, you know what i'm saying? >> roll up the shell to make it look like a burrito. if you want our recipe, write to us here, steve caponi. >> so good, it makes you want to slap your momma. >> as caponi enjoys his time in general population -- >> not bad. very good. >> -- jessica graniela after spending two days in the infirmary, has been transferred from general population to confinement. she's under investigation after deputies witnessed her swallowing what turned out to be a packet of prescription pills. another inmate told master deputy steven gray that she was
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trying to sell the pills. in their housing unit. but graniela claims the pills actually belong to the inmate who reported her. >> she approached me, she was like, hey, khan you hold this for me? so i grabbed them and put them in my bra. >> you didn't find that strange that she'd come up and hand you over these pills? >> after the fact, yeah. >> graniela says she didn't know what kind of pills were in the bag. but 15 minutes later, when a deputy called her over for a strip search, she put the bag in her mouth. >> i wasn't going to swallow them. i just put them in my mouth. they just strip searched me. everything was good. as i was about to walk about the door, they were like open up your mouth. i was like, i'd rather chew them and swallow them than get in trouble for having them. >> so when you put those in your mouth, you're putting something in your mouth that's almost the size of a golf ball. >> pretty much. >> a golf ball? you didn't have second thoughts
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when you were ingesting a golf ball size of pills as you were doing it? >> no. it happened too fast. >> because i'm going to be honest, you could have signed your death warrant. right there. the only way i see you doing that without thinking, you knew what the pills were. >> i didn't know what they were. >> therefore, you knew that they probably weren't going to kill you if they were something. i'm asking you, do you see the questions i've got to ask? the only way you're swallowing any kind of pills is, i'm getting ready to get nailed here. i know what they are. if i swallow 10, 14 of these, they're not going to kill me. they may make me sick but i'm not going to catch another charge. so i go ahead and swallow them. >> that's not what i was thinking at all. >> graniela claims that if nothing else she can at least prove the pills belong to the inmate who reported her. >> i had seen her on the phone earlier. i think she was talking to her husband on the phone. and she was like talking in code to him. he was i guess on the internet looking up something for her about the pills. whoever she got them from. >> maybe pill numbers.
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>> yeah. she was saying numbers over the phone. like if you get the tape from her phone call, you can hear her. she was saying, you know, six this and whatever, whatever. she was saying numbers over the phone. >> the jail records all phone calls made by inmates for security purposes. but policy prohibits them from being made public. since jessica has provided the date and time of the calls, deputy gray accesses it and listens to the conversation between the inmate and her husband. >> on the actual phone call, she's asking on the other end for this person to actually on the internet look up web md and actually try to identify these particular pills. now i think jessica may be telling the truth, which is going to require an additional interview with the first female that we interviewed to get to the bottom of this. it seems as though she's got a lot more to do with the case than what she originally told us. coming up -- >> i'm not going to let her know about the phone calls until a little bit into the interview.
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then we'll hit her with everything. >> the investigation takes a turn. >> you know how i thanked you for telling the truth yesterday? i may have spoke too soon. >> and steven caponi finds old habits die hard. >> need a fish to fry. >> they moved him out. >> yeah, they moved him out. >> would have been a good score, too. chances are, you're not made of money, so don't overpay for motorcycle insurance. geico, see how much you could save.
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let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. at some point, most inmates who are at tampa's hillsboro county jail for the first time are hit with the realization of how much they've left behind. as she now finds herself at the center of a drug investigation, jessica graniela's thoughts are with her 2-year-old son. >> my son is so important to me,
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and, like, every day is just, like, so hard being without him. i know my son's with my mom and that she takes very good care of him. i still -- i still worry. i still care, you know, i still know that he misses me and he needs his mom. >> graniela who's in jail on a drug trafficking charge to which she's pled not guilty was recently accused of trying to sell prescription pills. >> yjessica? >> she admits to swallowing a small packet of pills when deputies attempted to search her but she said she was only holding them for the inmate who made the accusation. >> you, with your long history, yes, you know where i'm going. >> but this is only one of many disciplinary problems she's had in the two months she's been at hillsboro county. sergeant sarah herman has come to talk to her about her behavior. >> your long history says that you can't cope in general population because you've had issues with everybody. >> i mean -- >> there's no i mean. >> it's not all my fault, but i
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can understand what you're saying. >> okay. let's talk about fault. okay. real quick. if you're not in it, it wouldn't happen. so either own it or you don't. >> i take full responsibility. for my actions. >> then nothing else needs to be said. that's called owning it 100%. okay? that's how miss herman likes to hear you talk. once you get to that point miss 20-year-old happy birthday, okay, that tells me that maybe just maybe in your future, all of this will change. i'm hoping for you, okay? am i confident? no, i'm not going to stand up here and tell you anything different. okay? you've got a lot to learn at 20 years old. a lot. your habits have not changed. they have not. you are doing in jail, according to this report, what you are accustomed to on the street. the behavior is the same. >> i mean, what the report says is that i was selling pills in the pod.
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which is not -- it's not true. >> i don't want to talk about the selling pills thing. close that new york mouth for a minute. seriously. i said it. you are qualifying every freaking thing that comes out of your mouth with an excuse, which means you're not owning it. >> i know it. >> accept it for what it is. that's a part of who you are. until you decide to change it, you have to change it. you. >> i took the whole thing as a joke. >> i know you did. i knew you were going to end up here. >> i think being in lock, i've learned my lesson and i'm willing to go back into general population. >> you learned your lesson how? how? >> i mean, i don't get to see my son. >> nope. >> i don't get to call my son. which affects me. i'm suffering enough being here, and not being able to see him on the outside. but, like, having my visitation taken away from me, too, it was like -- it can't -- i mean, it will be easier if i had visitation.
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it's hard. >> the worst thing in the world to have your freedom stripped from you. it really is. you realize this is the first time i've ever seen you draw tears, really? because all before it's been spunky, in your face, this is who i am, take it or leave it. >> attitude. >> away. i was trying not to give you that way, but, yeah, a lot of attitude. >> i know. >> okay? >> earlier, graniela told master depu depu deputy steven gray that the inmate who had reported her having the pills actually gave her the fills. to prove it, she also said she overheard the inmate asking someone on the phone to identify the pills for her. when deputy gray listened to the tape of the conversation, her story checked out. now he and his partner will re-interview the accuser. >> the fact that we've got to come back and talk with her today irritates me. i'm going to let her know that. the fact that she's caused us more work and just telling us the truth to begin with. >> right. >> i'm not going to let her know
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about the phone calls until a little bit into the interview. i'm going to kind of regurgitate her story back to her and i want her to agree that's what she told us then we'll hit her with everything. i want to start off how i thanked you for telling me the truth yesterday and blah, blah, blah at the end of our little interview. i may have spoke too soon. i'll tell you why. let me regurgitate the story you gave me yesterday as far as the whole pill thing. you said you were up in your cell talking to another female inmate. jessica comes up with these pills and shows you hey, look at these pills. you give her the speech, you don't know what those are, blah, blah, blah. she said i might want to take a couple, you say that's stupid. you don't know what they are. you see her trying to sell these pills. long story short, she takes a couple or you think she takes a couple. you tell the deputy because you're thinking this girl just took a couple pills, you're concerned. which makes sense. and then the whole strip search thing goes on, she swallows them. you left out the whole part where you're on the phone where
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you're talking to your husband i.d.'ing these pills and telling your husband two different names of whose pills they are. i had to listen to literally hours worth of phone calls you made that day. >> i figured it was in the report. i told him exactly what happened. she wanted to take them. >> you were trying to find out what they were? >> right. i didn't have a problem with jessica. just that one day that her and i had an argument. >> after a few more minutes of questioning, deputy gray has a clearer picture of what happened. >> i think what happened is the female inmate that ended up ingesting the pills wasn't well liked. >> i'm just saying. >> when she was hustling these pills in the pod, she was probably trying to sell them all day for canteen, phone cards, what have you. but i think once they found out that the pills jessica is trying to hustle were not anything they would be interested in taking themselves, i think that's when they probably set her up, gave her back the pills and told the deputy and out the pod she went.
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>> the investigation also served another purpose. >> it's kind of shaken people up in that pod. that's a victory for us. that lets them know we're listening to phone calls, we're watching the cameras, we're aware of what goes on. >> keeping contraband out of the jail is one way deputies maintain order and they keep an eye out for negative interactions between inmates. steven caponi spent nine months in confinement. after he was caught extorting canteen funds from alleged wild molesters. he's now back in general population and he's found that old habits diehard. >> the hustle never sleeps. never sleeps. there's husts going on. the person i'm hustling right now has no idea what i'm about. >> not only is caponi hustling again but he raised the stakes. >> we're working on getting bonded out right now. the bond right now is $18,000. i need $1,800 to get out. so i'm not hustling for nickels and dimes anymore, you know? i don't want the canteen anymore. now i'm hustling to get bonded
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out and it looks like it might come together. >> but deputy robert who supervises his dorm has caponi on his radar. >> i noticed that he seems to be what i call a social bug, always trying to involve himself in everything that goes on in the pod. usually the guys that are running hustles are the ones that are circulating the pod like that. he's been counseled twice for negative behavior stuff he's not supposed to be doing. >> this game is called pinochle. italian game. >> he feels he has to involve himself in matters that don't pertain to him. he's on the verge of disciplinary action.
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>> need a little fish here to fry, you know? you hear me? you need a fish to fry. >> they moved him out? >> yeah, they moved him out. >> that would have been a good scorer, too, if they would have left tht that fish up in here. >> he wasn't in here long, was he? >> as soon as he got a look at me, he ran. coming up -- >> if you mess up, graniela, it won't be a second chance, you know me. >> jessica graniela gets more straight talk from herman. >> quiet. don't tell her what to do. >> steven caponi's time in general population proves to be a short stay. >> i didn't think i would be back here for what i came back here for. i knew it was only a matter of time. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. there's a pop. wahlalalalallala! pepper, but not pepper, i'm getting like, pep-pepper. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, zip zip zip zip zip! i'm literally getting zinged by the flavor. smooth, but crisp. velvety. kind of makes me feel like a dah zing yah woooooh!
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>> if you mess up, graniela, it can't be a second chance. you know any. >> graniela had been in confinement for being in possession of and swallowing a packet of prescription pills. >> you are ready. >> i was ready, like, two weeks ago. >> really? >> yes. >> okay. we'll see. >> i'm looking forward to seeing my baby. >> we will see. if you stay out for another two weeks. >> don't play with me. >> where's your stuff? put that in there. you want to keep your -- >> i don't want to keep my -- >> put that -- two minutes out the door? >> okay. >> girl? you haven't even crossed the threshold and you're telling me what you don't want to do. >> stop it. >> no, you're doing this. >> i'm so excited. >> let's not get too excited because you know i still got my rules in my pod. you know you don't get along with people too well.
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>> i know. >> there's more females in here. >> oh, okay. >> okay. mind your business. >> business. i'm going to be anti-social. >> i'm not asking you do all that. >> that's what i'm going to do because it's the best thing for me to do. >> okay. it feels like to me we're not even in there yet that you're not there. the mouth. that's on you. >> inmates in graniela's new unit share two-person cells but with good behavior can move to a single-person cell on the upper tier. >> downstairs she has to earn it upstairs. okay? >> recommended in a -- >> don't put that i'm not allowed -- >> excuse me? you don't have a room. quiet. you don't tell her what to do. >> i didn't mean to -- >> but you did. >> based on being counseled --
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>> i'm thinking she's not ready. >> deputy garcia and it has to be proven, no q. class writeups, for you to go upstairs to a private room. >> thank you. >> okay? >> that's a privilege. >> thank you. i appreciate it. i plan on doing the right thing and staying out of trouble. i cannot say 110%. >> she's always yours, ma'am. if she comes back to me, she ain't coming out. >> but i'm going to try my hardest not to go because i don't want to lose all my privileges again. my son's my motivation. >> even with a strong motivation, the transition back to general population can sometimes be a tough one. steven caponi only lasted a few weeks there before he was sent back to confinement. >> i knew i would come back here with time. i didn't think i would be back here nor what i came back here for. but i knew it was only a matter of time. >> caponi's trip back to confinement started when the deputy caught him making fun of another inmate.
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>> the inmate in question that he was picking on had trouble walking and keeping his balance and inmate caponi was making gestures like he was going to push him down, blowing like he was going to blow him over and calling him some inaudible names. >> i made a joke about another inmate, that's all. >> what were you saying? >> i don't remember what i said. it was just a joke. >> caponi almost got off with a warning. but when the deputy directed him to a holding cell, caponi decided to push things a step further. >> they use that holding cell for kids. oh, go hang out in the holding cell for two hours or an hour. that's your time-out. man, you do that for the kids. i ain't no kid. >> initially he was not complying. he refused. he told me just send me to the hole, send me to lockdown. i gave him another order and he kind of abruptly stood up in my face and he told me get the "f" out of my way. >> he gave me an order to go
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into the holding cell and i told him no. i told him, pull the pin, you're going to need backup. >> isn't that hostile? >> that's not hostile. i told him what his job was. >> confinement means his chances of hustling his bond money are over. >> derailed. i've been derailed. just like that fast train they were trying to put up here in tampa, derailed. so no, there's no hustle. it's just doing time right now. >> without bond, caponi will stay in the hillsboro county jail while he awaits trial for two robberies. if he's convicted, he could get up to 20 years in prison and cap caponi says that kind of time will guarantee he'll never change. >> if i stay in jail till my 60s and 70s and get out, you're not going to see me at publix telling you, paper or plastic, ma'am? i'm not going to be bagging your groceries. that's not -- i'm going to go right back to doing
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