the economy. >> this president has failed america's women. they've suffered in terms of getting jobs. they've suffered in terms of falling into poverty. >> joining me now, investigative journalist carl bernstein, a contributor to "the daily beast" and nia-malika henderson. there was never any doubt women were going to be key in this election. we'll see what they do after this second debate. obviously, when you hear the democrats, you heard the president yesterday, carl, they see an opening after this binder comment. is there an opening? if so, how big is it? >> i think there's a huge difference between the two candidates. i think binder is trivializing things. might be indicative of the way mitt romney trivializes things, the same way he did the 47%. the real issue is civil rights for women, equal pay for women. the republican party has been against this. they're against the ledbetter act, which provides as a civil

rights, a civil right for women, equal pay for women. romney's trying to evade it. the whole election really comes down to romney out there trying to evade the real positions of the republican party now that he's the nominee and has looked at the poll numbers and what plays well in certain states. and his own record. he's been, when he was governor, totally on the opposite side of the abortion question, of contraception, of planned parenthood, et cetera, et cetera. i talked to three governors and former governors, all republicans, in the last two weeks, all of whom have said, who the hell is romney? what does he really stand for? we don't know, but we know he's following our party's line, which is essentially a tea party line. these are republican governors and former governors. the truth is, we don't know who the hell mitt romney is at this point. if we look at his record in massachusetts, what he said when he ran against ted kennedy for

the senate, and what he's saying now. >> well, to your point about women's issues, it was fascinating to me. i just saw some new numbers, carl, that the obama campaign and democratic group since july 2nd have run 30,000 commercials related to abortion. that's 10% of all the commercials that they've run. here's what dede myers had to say about mitt romney this morning and women on "morning joe." >> now he says he would have, you know, would allow exceptions for a ban on abortion for rape, incest, and the life of the mother, but he said he'd seen a person hood amendment, which would not only make all abortion illegal, it would make certain forms of contraception illegal. >> nia-malika, it's been something people have always cared about, not something they vote on. is it different this time? >> if you look at the gallup poll that came out yesterday, abortion was the number one

issue for women. when you think about reaching women voters, this is an issue that's important to them. planned parenthood funding is important to them. women often understand planned parenthood much differently than some of the things you hear from republicans and that rhetoric about abortions. it's also about women's health care and exams and lower income women having access to those. i thought obama in the debate yesterday did himself some good by linking those issues, health and contraception, to the economy, making them economic issues. in that way, he sort of goes into mitt romney's territory. he, of course, is running all about the economy, all about jobs. so when you make those issues a pocketbook issue, i think it really resonates with women. i do want to get specific in terms of the women we are talking about here. the share of women that they're really going after are white women.

latinos and african-american american have largely made up their mind about this president. 70% of latinos will likely cast their vote for barack obama. 90% of african-american women. it's mainly blue-collar white women and suburban moms, suburban white mom, soccer moms. that's why you see those ads largely featuring white women. these are the voters that are really going to, i think, determine this election. >> it's also about the supreme court. there's a very large chance that the supreme court, if it gets a different nominee from the makeup of the present court, a republican nominee who might overturn roe versus wade, those votes will be there if romney is president. that's a real issue in this campaign. it's not only about roe v. wade, it's also about look at romney's statements about supporting legislation that would allow employers to deny insurance that provides contraception. there's a consistent -- >> how much about this do you

think, carl -- and i'm curious about your opinion on this too, nia-malika. how much of this is about the facts, which are cig kapt, and how much is about the general impression? there's a narrative from the democratic party, and it is that mitt romney is this kind of '50s madmen kind of guy who, you know, may look good and sound nice, but in fact, he's a throwback. >> well, i think there's some truth to perhaps he's a throwback, but more importantly is the question of who is he and what does he stand for? as far as we can tell, he stands for in the nominating process everything the tea party wanted. in the last few weeks, he now stands for some of the things he ran against teddy kennedy on, which go back to the center. the difference between jeb bush and a mitt romney is we know and can find out what jeb bush really believes and what he did as governor. the difference with mitt romney is we don't, as these republican governors said to me, know what

the hell he really believes. say what you want about barack obama, and i can understand why there are people who for ideological, practical, and all kinds of reasons might want to vote against barack obama, but we know where he stands. he's been an honest man about his own record and about being straightforward about what his administration stands for. then you can grade him on his accomplishments. we now have a candidate of a major party, a party that is way outside the mainstream in terms of its representation in washington, a radical party such as we've never had in our history, literally in our modern history never had such a radical party in washington, d.c., and we don't know who its nominee really is and what he really believes, except one thing. we know how much he wants to be president. one of the real issues in this campaign is, will he say

anything to be president? >> i want to bring in congressman david s. in 2008, 43% voted for mccain. can the president win without maintaining that double-digit advantage? is that why we're seeing what we're seeing over the last 48 hours? >> well, i think the president will maintain a huge advantage with women voters. this is a very important election for our entire country. but i think it's especially important for women. they have seen at least in the republican house leadership the worst assault, the worst legislative assault on women's rights and women's health according to planned parenthood? a generation. i think it is a very important election in terms of protecting women's health, fighting for equal pay for equal work, fighting to pass a strengthened violence against women act that the senate has passed, and i think the president has been a leader on these issues.

the american people know where he stands. he's been a fighter for women. and i think women understand that this election has real consequences. we're fighting against house republican lead who are have a very different agenda on women's issues. we need to have a strong president to fight that. we need to, of course, take back the house so that voices of women can properly be heard in the house of representatives. >> let me ask you about some specifics because this binders comment has gotten so much traction. it's gone viral. people are making a lot of fun of mitt romney for it. he was making a very serious point, which was about appointing women to key executive positions. ""the washington post" today stated that he elected 42% appointments in 2004.

does this blunt the democrat's argument? >> i don't think it does. we have to continue to work to ensure that women are represented at all levels of government. that has to continue to be a very important priority. we're fighting for basic things. women's access to full reproductive health care, women's access to equal pay for equal work. all of the things that -- protecting women against violence by protecting a strength and violence against women act. i don't think it's a single issue about hiring. we certainly have to be sure that happens, but really what the president has articulated is a whole set of important priorities that advance women and strengthen women in the work force, protect women's health, protect equality for women. if you compare both the republican and democratic platforms, there's no comparison. you compare what the national republicans in the house have advocated for. they're trying to take us back on issues that have been settled for a generation. >> the romney camp released a web ad yesterday -- >> i think i lost it, brian.

>> did you lose sound? can you hear me? we've lost the congressman. so nia-malika, let me go back to you. you've heard the argument. he made the argument we've heard from a lot of democrats. why is the gender gap closing and in some polls closing significantly? >> that's right. there was like an 18-point swing from obama and basically romney had tightened it or closed the gap to 47% to 47%. i think there are other polls that show still a double-digit lead. "the washington post" poll, for instance. romney did himself some good in the first debate. he was stronger than president obama. i think he was able to close it on the strength of that. i'd like to go back to carl's point about the larger narrative the democrats are trying to paint. it's not necessarily about one issue, not just the binders issue. they're trying to link todd akin

to transvaginal ultra sounds to lilly ledbetter. the republicans have a very different idea about the status of women in this society. it has, so far, i think, resonated with some women. you do see romney, i think, modifying some of his positions, being a little more moderate. his statement in the last debate about women should have access to contraception, that is certainly true. i mean, that's the law. but he didn't make the point that republicans would like him to make, which is that health insurance providers shouldn't be compelled to cover contraception. so they obviously know, everybody knows 52% of the folks who show up on election day will be women. you saw in 2008, 10 million more. >> well, what we're seeing now is the fact that so many of these undecided voters are women. >> that's right. >> they tend to be less engaged, less informed. i guess the question becomes, are they less likely to vote? how do you get them to vote? there's been a big question raised in the last couple days

about the tenor of this campaign and the tenor of the debate. let me play for you a couple pieces of sound of impressions of what happened in the debate. >> i did think the interaction between them was really aggressive. i thought it was a little rude at times. so that's not something i was fond of. >> they just turned me off. they were both like kids trying to get at one another, one upsmen. it was ridiculous. >> i've never seen a presidential campaign where there weren't complaints about the negative ads or the negative tenor. is it different now, and could it turn people off? >> yeah, it could turn people off. it's the extreme and logical end of the culture warfare we have had in this country for the past 30 years. these two philosophies are very much in play. the right wing tea party philosophy, which controls and drives the republican party today. and the traditional democratic

party philosophy. one of the problems is that there has been almost no work, serious work in washington between the two parties. especially the last ten years to join together on practical issues. we are now seeing the result of it in a horrible election, and at the same time, the issues are real. for instance, basic civil rights issues that the republicans in washington have opposed for a generation. whether they have to do with gay people, women's rights, et cetera. the democratic party has been on one side, the republicans on another. you can argue that there are constitutional grounds that the republicans advocate that preclude them from supporting real civil rights for women. but there's an essential difference here. there's an essential difference about rights of being able to have aid to planned parenthood, rights of being protected in the workplace in terms of wages.

this is a philosophical election in addition to an election about the basic honesty of two candidates. and i think it's very difficult in this environment of cultural warfare and where we've been that the people we keep saying, hearing on television and focus groups saying, oh, i'm turned off by all that. at the same time, i suspect they go home and start screaming at each other the way those two candidates did because i hear it all the time among my friends. so i think that, look, let's not lay everything on the politicians here. this country has a cleave right down the middle philosophically. it's culture warfare. somehow we're going to have to bridge this culture warfare or we're going to be in terrible trouble. that's one of the questions in this election also. >> carl, we got to let that be the last word.

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a new poll shows the race for president is tightening in wisconsin. the marquette university poll shows president obama leading mitt romney by one point, 49 to

48%. but there's a lot of talk about polls this morning because they seem to be inconsistent, in some cases showing wide swings. in the case of national polls this week, three of six have president obama in the lead, but gallup has mitt romney up by six. what's going on? joining me is the ceo of the democratic polling firm, mark melman. great to see you. >> pleasure to be with you. >> gauge where you think the race is right now. >> i think there's a slight advantage for obama in the national numbers. i think the has a bigger advantage in the swing states. i give a slight advantage to the president, but this is a close race anding go either way. >> have you ever seen anything like this? there do seem to be so many swings, a lot of inconsistencies. what do you think is going on? >> well, we do see this in polling at the state level quite often. less so nationally. the reality is in a close race,

you will see people moving back and forth. you'll see events and so on that have an impact on the race. the debates, other events. the truth s doing good polling is getting harder. it's getting more difficult. it's getting more expensive. and there's a lot of bad polling out there. the bad polling is going to be inconsistent. it's going to be wrong. and it's going to come with different results. unfortunately, we have a lot of that bad polling out there that really does more to confuse than to clarify the situation. >> the critical question has been now for many weeks about these undecideds. how many are there and which way will they go? the conventional wisdom is they go for the challenger. in the end, the vast majority will go for the challenger. how many undecides do you think are out there? why do you think the dynamic is different for how they'll vote? >> the number of undecideds varies from poll to poll. in the exit polls, probably 10 or 15% of the electorate says

they made up their mind in the last couple weeks. that's probably a little high, in fact. there's still a good number of people who are undecided. the truth is, historically undecideds did break to the challenger. that's not been true for the last number of election cycles. it hasn't been true because when undecideds broke for challengers, people were saying, you know, i know that incumbent. i know i don't like him. i don't know anything about the challenger. let me find out. these days, there's enough advertising, there's enough news coverage. very few people are walking to the voting booth saying, you know what, i don't know much about that challenger. today people are saying when they're undecided it's because they like the candidates equally or more often because they dislike them equally. something is going to have to break that tie for them as we go down the stretch. the tie could break either way. >> conventional wisdom has also been that generally debates don't change the game.

carl rove argues that this debate gave mitt romney a chance to stand on equal footing. do you think the race has been fundamentally changes? was it always going to be tied in the end? >> the conventional wisdom about debates is a little oversimplified. there is about a four-point swing we can see based on debates. that's exactly what governor romney got more or less in terms of a shift toward him. in a close race, that can make a big difference. when a race is 10 or 15 points apart, four points is barely noticed. this was always destined to be a close race. it's likely to be a close race. at some point, those national numbers will get in line with the underlying fundaments, the economy and so on, which suggested this would be a close race. now we have the national poll numbers getting in line with those fundamentals and showing a very close race. >> mark melman, so good to have you on the program. thank you so much. >> pleasure to be here. thank you. "the washington post" is reporting president obama is prepared to veto legislation to block year-end tax hikes and

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if you live in a battleground state, it's not going to come as a surprise we're on the verge of a $1 billion presidential ad spending campaign. a new nbc news analysis finds $807 million has already been spent on political ads, tv and radio, local and national, cable and broadcast. right now mitt romney and his allies have been the big spenders, outspending obama $455 million to $352 million. here to talk about the impact and the strategy going forward,

republican strategist and former bush/cheney spokesman terry holt and msnbc political analyst karen finney. good morning. >> good morning. >> karen, does that spending advantage give mitt romney and edge, especially as we're looking in these remaining couple weeks? >> you know, i don't think it does because we're also at the point where most people are either turning the sound down when those ads come on or walking away from the television. i mean, just the oversaturation, i think, we're at a point where you could question how effective they really are. what is more effective and where i think president obama has the advantage is the ground game. we know that people trust information they get from people that -- >> is that what people usually say when they're being outspent in advertising? >> no, in actual fact, the data shows that people trust data and information they hear from a friend or someone they know more than a television ad. that's part of why knocking on doors is so important. that's part of why the obama campaign had put so much money last time and this time into

figuring out how to enhance the ground game by having more people go knock on doors. >> is that a smart strategic position, terry? take a look at these numbers. half of all the ad spending c e comes from the big three battleground states, fm, virginia, and ohio. $452 million. that's an awful lot of money. what do you think the influence is? >> there's a lot at stake. remember, these candidates aren't just competing with each other. they're competing with every other political figure who's on the television right now along with mcdonald's and general motors and everybody else who's on the air waves. i agree, though, that the spending that takes place on television isn't often the most effective spending. that's part of why we saw in the early part of summer where president obama's campaign was spending so much money on the ground game. it was because they had an enthusiasm deficit among their voters. they needed to rebuild that ground game so that they would be in a position to compete with

mitt romney and the republicans who were very energized to get this election underway. >> if you look at a place like ohio and the number of offices and the people they have in place, for example, to do the get out the vote, obama is way ahead of mitt romney. so i'm wondering, do you think that the republicans have misspent their money? >> well, i think it's all about deciding undecideds. you know, we talk a lot about there not being very many of them, but what we have is a group of people who decide who they like after a debate or after a particularly effective ad and undecide again. all of the advertising is really focused on trying to get that last impression, that lasting impression before the election comes around and they have to cast their ballots. >> here's some other fascinating statistics. most saturated markets for advertising, kind of surprised me, green bay is number one. madison, wisconsin, number five. there's a new poll out, karen,

i'm sure you saw it this morning. president obama has lost its 11-point lead from a month ago. this is now a statistical tie. nbc has a new poll coming out tonight. we'll see what that number says. is wisconsin really vulnerable now? what happened there? >> you know, i actually don't think we know because i don't think we know what the impact of the debate the other night really has been. i think it takes a couple days for people to -- for it to sink in. i think our poll, the nbc poll tonight, will be interesting. you know, the campaign always knew that this was going to be tough and they were going to have to work hard because it was going to be a close race. i think we're seeing that bear itself out. i think the campaign very prudently understood a few weeks ago. it seemed the numbers were particularly high. that didn't mean they didn't have to keep doing their work. we're also at a volatile period where the numbers are going to go up and down. one other thing on advertising, we haven't talked about online advertising. one of the things i think will be interesting after this cycle is to look at either how

effective they were and how much money was spent online, because if you're trying to reach a certain population, that's where they are. they're not necessarily on -- a lot of people don't have televisions anymore. they watch shows on their computer. >> well, we're going to have to have you back. we'll talk about the social media, the online advertising. there's a lot of o effort going into that as well. terry holt, karen finney, good to see both of you. making news this morning, a 21-year-old man from bangladesh is in u.s. ccustody accused of to blow up the federal reserve building in new york city. officials say he had what was believed to be a real -- what he believed was a real 1,000-pound bomb in his van. he tried to detonate it, but it was a fake. investigators believe he came here with a specific purpose of launching a terror attack. the family of former u.s. senator and presidential candidate george mcgovern says the 90-year-old is no longer responsive. mcgovern is in a hospice at his

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this holiday season with the average holiday shopper spending $749 on gifts, decor, greeting cards, and various things you would normally buy around this time of year. really, that's only up very slightly, 1% to be exact, from the $740 they spent last year. that's according to the national retail federation. as you can imagine, everyone is still looking for a bargain. by the way, those bargains have already started far ahead of black friday. retailers have also conditioned us to expect great deals on products during this holiday season. you know what? we've also been honing our skills over the past four years during economically bumpy times to stretch our dollars. and who doesn't like a promotion? plenty out there. >> another interesting finding from this study, and i don't know why i didn't think of this before, buy yourself a present. >> one for you, two for me. six in ten shoppers plan to spend an average of $139.92,

let's call it $140, on themselves this holiday season. this trend is even more pronounced among young people, say between 18 and 24 years old. that's about 71.5% of those in that age group planning to buy gifts for themselves. there's a whole pile of social commentary we could get into on that, but not for today's topic. >> mandy drury, thank you. >> thank you. whatever happens in the race for president, hillary clinton is leaving her job as secretary of state in january. she's been on the road 365 days. she has logged 867,196 miles. at least that's the number quoted in the new article in "marie claire." it's probably more miles by now. the piece is called "is this really good-bye?" is it really good-bye? >> hillary insists this is it. >> that's what she told you. >> she said, come january she's hanging up her hat after two

decades of public service. she's done. she wanted her private life back. you know, she was very proud of her tenure and her long years of service, but this was it. whether or not we believe her is another question, of course. >> here's the quote from your magazine. i really want to just have my own time back. i want to just be my own person. i'm looking forward to that. but, of course, the question is, is there room for her to change her mind? she gets rested up. after six months she says, well, maybe. >> she certainly wouldn't be the first political figure who insists that, no, i'm not interested up until the very last minute when they became interested. i think a lot of it will depend on how the upcoming race shakes out and also keep in mind when we talk about four years from now, we really mean two years from now. that's when the election machinery starts to kick up again. two years is not that far off. hillary would conceivably be 68 taking office. ronald reagan was older. it's not out of the realm of the

possibility. >> besides the talk about will she or won't she run for president, there are some fascinating thiing things about life now. you see the numbers about traveling almost a million miles. when you see the description of her plane, it's jammed with food, she sleeps on a pull-out couch, this is not the life that i think most people think she's leading. it is just brutal. >> i think everybody has an hbo, glossy version of what it is to be secretary of state, traveling around the world with, you know, flanked by high-end security and state of the art communication systems. it's a gritty lifestyle, no question. she's sleeping on a pull-out couch on that plane. they have boxes of apple juice crammed in every cabin. it's rugged. it's rough. she holds up very well, all things considering. it's brutal. it's around the clock. >> there also is a little bit of controversy that she gets to answer in this. there was this article in "the

atlantic" who said women can't have it all and quit. tell me what hillary had to say about that. it looked like she was a little uncomfortable with the question. >> well, we asked hillary pointedly what do you make of that piece, kind of the most epic kind of dust storm got kicked up by that story. she made it clear that slaughter's problems were her own. she said it's too difficult to have it all while raising kids. hillary says, in fact, for a lot of women, they have a higher threshold for dealing with that kind of a pace. she knows women with five, six kids who manage to juggle it all. in the larger context of the work life balance issue, which is probably one of the most pressing issues affecting working women today, that it's really about just kind of bucking up, making it work, you know, rallying all your resources and doing what you have to do to plow through. many women can do it. >> let me give you the full screen again. this is the quote from the magazine. "some women are not comfortable working at the pace and

intensity you have to work at in these jobs. other women don't break a sweat. they have four, five, six kids. they're highly organized, have very supportive networks." let me ask you because you hear a lot back from your readership, especially on an article like this. what is her place in sort of how women who are looking at role models, women who are trying to sort of figure out their own lives, where do you think hillary clinton fits in? >> i think that's the question of the day because i think our readers in particular look to her. you know, very few role models there are for women of this generation, working women. she would be one of them. for our readers in particular, they're mindful of the idea that we don't, you know -- i loathe to use the word whine about it, but we do what we have to do. we do it well, as well as we can. you know, we take the help when we can get it, and we asked for it when we need it.

i think that's the, you know, takeaway from clinton. you know, extraordinary circumstances this woman has lived through, extraordinary crises that i think a lot of women just simply would kind of buckle under. this is a woman that has not only endured them but emerged, you know, emerged a guilded icon of, you know, for younger women who are looking for and kind of keeping her fingers crossed she will be back in 2016. wouldn't that be something? where does she stand? she's held in very high regard. she is, you know, the phoenix for a lot of women. i don't want to overstate the case, but there are a lot of people who are obama supporters four years ago who are saying, maybe i picked the wrong choice. maybe, you know, it if she comes back again, maybe i'll go for that choice. it's looking very good. >> is it really over? that's the question. leah, thank you so much for coming in. good to see you again. >> thank you. today's tweet of the day comes from dirty dancing star jennifer grey.

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final preparations are under way this morning for the first social fall garden tour kicking off tomorrow. with me for an insiders preview is chief correspondent for ivillage kelly wallace. you spent more than a little time at the white house. tell me about the tour, who's invited. >> right, who do you need to know? they've been doing this, every administration has been doing these tours twice a year going back to the nixon administration when then first lady pat nixon started this. this is the first one with a social component. so tomorrow from 9:00 to 10:30, they will be live streaming this garden tour. you can check it out on whitehouse.gov/live. they're asking all the visitors who come to use the #whitehousegarden and tweet their pictures. they did it this past weekend. they said they had 1.2 million

tweets over the weekend, making it one of the most popular events. >> when we say garden, it's not really a garden. there are multiple gardens. >> you're going to get to see some cool stuff. you're going to get to see the rose garden. you'll be fairly close to the oval office. i bet the president will not be there p. >> what about beau? >> that would be great. you're also going to get to see the jacqueline kennedy garden. that was created by the first lady. also, you're going to get to see the white house kitchen garden, which i have seen, and it is very cool pmplgts a. >> are the beehives get? >> they are there. i don't know how close the visitors will get. it's the first working garden on the white house grounds since the days of eleanor roosevelt. >> what's the idea? why do this? >> the idea is two-fold. obviously every administration is doing this to open up the public, to make the white house -- this is the people's house. make it accessible to the public. interestingly, this administration is very social, very much in the digital mind

set. part of it is the world we're in. 2012 is different than the years of 2000 and beyond. it's another way to let people have access to the white house grounds and open it up. >> well, you know, the other thing we were talking about this with advertising in the way that social media has changed it, but there's a new generation of people who frankly look at the world and find out about the world in a different way than i still do in many cases. >> sadly, they're not quite opening "the new york times" like we still do. exactly. it's kind of a new world order. what's interesting, you know, people are wondering, will they get to see any special guests? will the first lady be there? she did surprise people on a white house public tour back in february. people walked into the blue room, and who was there? the first lady. they couldn't believe it. i don't quite expect that tomorrow. she's a little busy right now with something called a re-election campaign. they will get to do some q&a with a white house chef and other officials. >> let me ask you quickly, as somebody who's been there, done

that, so to speak, what was the cool thing for you when you were there? >> i think, you know -- and i haven't taken the official white house garden tour. so white house, if you're listening, if i could get tickets, that would be great. i think being in places like the rose garden or in the east room, places where you see history being made whether it be a presidential meeting, a news conference, an event, i think that always is the time where you pinch yourself. you know that big moments are happening here. i'm lucky to be here to cover them. >> all right. where can people go? >> whitehouse.gov/live for live streaming. they can also follow the white house on facebook, twitter, and google plus. >> all right. thank you so much. that wraps up this hour of "jansing & company." richard lui up next. >> hey, i don't have a green thumb, but we have a lot coming up the next hour. topping our agenda, we have bubba and the boss. bill clinton and legendary rock star bruce springsteen are stumping together in ohio today. can they help president obama hold on to the buckeye state?

and what's become priority number one for both presidential campaigns, winning over women. we'll talk with the executive director of that group that brought mitt romney those binders full of women. we'll ask, is it a big bird moment in the campaign or a sign of something deeper? and that nightmare scenario on election day. what happens in the battle for the white house if there is a 269-269 electoral college tie? we'll have that. ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth!

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states. >> we don't have to collect a bunch of binders to find kbal if ied, talented, driven young women. we don't have to order up some binders to find qualified, talented, driven young women to learn and teach and thrive and start businesses. >> well, this debate driving the narrative as -- >> this is an act of desperation. >> you needed to, like, change a story about a bipartisan group that sent you names of very accomplished women to hire because you didn't have one of your own? >> the part where he said he wanted to, you know, give women shorter hours so they could get home to cook dinner for their families. it showed a view of women that i think some people will not accept. >> this debate driving the narrative as both campaigns zero in on the women's vote in an ever-tightening race. >> when young women graduate, they should get equal pay for equal