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you hit an officer? >> we have to go in that dorm and eer. >> j with force after an officer is assaulted inmate attempt >> how many times did you shoot? 12 >> an 18-year-old shoots her father to death and find a surrogate mother on the inside. when shedeath, take care of her and owdy for the threatened to floothe a vile threat. is a cup of urine right there. >> two other inmates provide fathers and sons>> i was out were n.daddy.
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uú innlouisville of the imiven day about any23re. most have only been be intense as the inmates officers know all too bell.well. >> you're lo as people to deal >> today is onetimes. >> an inmate. >> we've had an offiche fourth ave the inmate und control. >> officers use pepper spray to su afe. >> that dorm has a lot of young
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and aggressive? i'mright. >> soon theup steps out and cold cocks me. >> what'srong with you? >> nothing. >> why did you we just dormn going fine and my officer go in the dorm and as soon as the door opens up you hit one. why.]c >> i pleadther eye. >> ialmates try camera was observed. several of them covering their picking up what could weapon. the >>. >> we've in to restore order. >> wait for call. >> everyerent. the nd threats is we don't k is involved. we don't know if it was there's too many unknowns. we want to use a lot of
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manpower. th be done fast a safe. we're going to up in full gear helmet . to take the mk-9 control. we're going to take flexi cuffs due to the number of them, ser >> because o lose control of the floor, it's nd. anybody that doee know that's where attention ne >> due to safyr.t. would not allow us to enter we to shoot it on thetor. >> they're telling everybody on the ground and fi qh themst the wall untilo they have searched all sta with the dorm secured, our allowed back. searched. make sure we have peelopleat the dvr
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trying to identify >> they are ablering leaders. they will be moved to cells. they will not be rning to thatdorm. çú>> see how they got us laid't that'sfeel. >> theseinmates are still agitated but as rgoing the way we planned it remove a are t.ehose who rushed the door and isola them unit for furthere inmates remaining in the dorm are placed on hou them isbryan edmonds, sr. had my 36 years of i was doing in school straight as andjs. and is where it laned me. >> md felony one. he was sentenced to 30 ars. >> reporter: hawaipr tnsfe of of being to get away from here. ij does find himselfk@ in
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circumstances here. hous in the cell is his@l counts of ain't got nore him growing up. he know i love him and he me. we ain't and son more lik aonvict him of i blame would be on been there. i'll take his charge if they tois time becauseg: i don't wantim go throughing like coming up. >> you're following infather's him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended when say that. >> an 18-year-old takes her father life. >> i just med it right at his head.
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didorm. >> white who currently in jailr that been put on s.o.r.t. status. the highest security designation in the entire jail. for now he will be locked up 23 hours aday, lose all his to do that did you do? what did you do to the officer? hit him.him. at the day i [ bleep ma called? chair. >>'m going to talk you realng on? i want to talkbit. >> i got fed up. you feeling like today? >> you know disciplinary you. you'll be on we'll be reviewing you depen ing your actions every three weeks.ll right.
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>> white says he felt disrespected. >> i hate being handled like a little i hate being disrespected. >> how do you feel you were any kind of way. i show them the utmost respect. i talk to them in a mannerable way. they don't talk back mannerable. >> could youforsee you doing that no the future hold. >> the future is bryan edmonds as well.ry to fighting. in here a lot of times your hands get forced. you too many chiefs and not enough indians in here if you what i mean. i need a diffent environment. that's why i'm always fighti drama with me. >> it's the kind of drama the jail doesn't want. compiled a list of
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keep froms or inmates that must beist makes it hard for the jail the house him. >> continue. >> brian senior? >> senior. >> once a month chief of staff dwayne clark conduct a meeting to review the inmates housed in single person throughout the jail. >> these are premiumaw >> need to follow and get'3 an evaluation. >> yut he's more of >> do one a see what you come up with leus on his favors in jail edmonds jr. says his thoughts are mostly on what brought him here. he's charged with two of murder which he's pled not guilty. >> i'm facing the death penalty. i'm fooigtighting for my life. they to take my like.
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i'm 18. i '/ rough life. the streetsn' experience is life's greatest teacher.er had any role models. m the opposite way. now that i'm in here caged in. >> there's no telling if the presence of a role model could have prevented ed monmonds in jail. the void left by his prison lengthy stays made life more upstairs on the fourthfloor. he just got years. he been in the pen't phase me. >> you're follo your father's footsteps. >> i don't even know him to footsteps. i get offended deal wit him. ain't nothing he can circumsout my face. i take total responsibility for anything i do. i'm never going to sit raised me different. it i what it is. i'm going to for any position that i put
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myself in. i feel like in order for me to better myselik ity. i feel like that's what i th man. not just a man by age >> coming up ain't got to go through this. >> i don't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. >> they struggle ft could be the final meeting of their encounters oo sura surrogate mom. 3su3p%!
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ours earlier 18-year-old danielle became one of the youngest and new estest inmates to be assigned a bed here. she was arrested for a probation violation. her original conviction was second-degree earlier she killed her father. >> i rem grabbing a gun and aimed it right at his . yes my intentions were to kill at that mome back of the head. i know hard t but there's no telling what you . according to court records social workers found reports of abuse in the home. >> the night before he get in hits me and pulls my hair. finally he throws u hands and go to bed. hi heart is continued the following morning she felt her life was in danger.ked up her fathers
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gun and shot him in the back of the head. did you shoot him? >> 10, 12 times. it's horrifying. it's something i dream about. i have life. >> not all memories of her father is negative. >> he take me places. we go to movies sometimes. he took me to that's one thing we did get along about. ac/dc is our band. he i to it. i've been listeni since the day i was born because he even said that he used to bounce me around in my s stomach with the radio turned up with ac/dc playing. him. he was my father. that's who he was. i'll love him. >> several hours after the shooting carmack turned herself into the police. he pled guilty to second-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison. she spent most of the year in a juvenile detention ta
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sill facility. she violated her probation by not taking her >> i stopped taking my medication because it wasn't helping me. i needed counseling and stuff like that. my probation officer says i stoppedd refused to take it. that's when she puts thefs on me. refused not to take it. i would have taken it if i happ judge will review thetter and could send her to an adult prison to serve the remainder of her prison. are you reading? >> a handbook. fact that's not opinion lost on sherry. >> you ready tor number on the phone. >> who is helping her adjust on her first day in to death, shaking. i justbbed her and stayed up with her last night. i've been showing herway. >> my case right now it's someone because i feel like i got nobody . i know in jail is not the idea
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place. sherry came in and took me under her wing. >> she's servingea for failure to c >> you hit one five times. then you wait. there will be a because and it will tell you what to do from cans find out your commisary information. >> unfortunately i know the ropes. that's not something i'm proud of. >> we'll have to g m bracelet. i'm going to need him. they can charge you can escape. she needs abrac she's having to carryó7 it around. i don't want her to get in trouble. she's 18. my youngest is18. ne him walking in here. he would probably have the same look as she did.
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is thatbracelet? >> carmark. >> theyon. that's why i did pit. there's lesbian activity that goes on. it's more experienced womennaive prey upon danielle? >> you're just going to have to take my word for it. i'm not. >> you're not what? >> going to prey upon the young and naive.do not you can get in a lot of trouble for a shower. >> coming up there's a lot of waithating on you. you need to chill >> new threaten the relationship. >> everything that was questionable if i can continue"ó to trust her because was said. >> and. >> he's threatening to throw urine on us. >> an inmate not normally known for trouble finds himself knee deep in it.
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> on any given day staff at the louisville correction depositions jail know one inmate will cause enough of a disturbance to warra response. today it's in the disciplinary unit. >> he's threatened o flood the wall because he didn't get a additional at chow.)÷ >> put your hands behind your back. when officers arrive the inmate compliesorders.
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>> we're going to move him to a quieter location. he'll be in there by himself. he won't have any access to throw urine. >> this is why we're doing this. take a look. there's a cup of urine. he was going to throw it on the officer. he said i'm going to throw it on you. >> he warned the officer? >> the would be when the warning is not taken serious. he said i i was going to do it. proactiv reactively on this one. >> the inmate who made the threats was centrecently moved to segregation two weeks earlier. several inmates sushed the door of the!b houseing housing unit.
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sdp >> you never cause problems. >> seems to be some personal issues. he said he's going to be quiet the rest of the night for you. >> good. that's what we need. >> we'll see. >> he's awaiting trial for guilty but lately n dealing with another death. >> my daddy died. i feel like everythding. >> how did your father die? >> he got he got smoked. it was last iwednesday. my dad didn't have a relationship like a real bond. he had other kids he took care of. he ain't never took care of same time i didn't hold that against him.till got years old. >> he facesw-r for time
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segregation due to the lates incident. markell white was given0 days in segregation. he's lost all privileges including gym and visitation. he's on day 14 of his stay. ? how >> how's it's been going in it's stressful not being out there. i need to get out son. that's the only thing that really stresses me out becauseather figure. i know what it feel like not to have a father. i don't want him doing the same thing. >> you didn't have a >> i had right now i'm following his footsteps. >> when was the last time you got to touche% your >> i ain't. >> you never touched your child? >> trying to stay.
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>> it's been several months since bryanrç edmonds has touched his son who is incarcerated one floor below him. >> we had an argument in here. they put keep .want him t i'm here. i know that's the reason he's going through what he's going through. i want to apologize for never be there. >> the two men heimight not have much time to reconcile.w edmonds sr. is about to leave and start a 30-year prison. facing the death penalty. when told y apology he's7 >> i'll will 19.at's the most mature thing i probably heard him say. him taking responsib unbelievable. that's a major move. make me give a [ bleep ]. i would like to be there and hear him sa1"y, man i blame myself for what you're going through.
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i don't know. i guess it would change how i look a it would help me get rid of a bunch of i always had toward my daddy. >> coming up. the edmonds give their relationship what couldáú be its final chance. first, when i say stop talking about it you need to sto talking about it. a different sortparental relationship hits a nerve. machine a drink, or a drink that's a ale announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8.
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>> the louisville metro department jail is the first facility 18-year-old danielle carmack has served in. he was convicted second-degree manslaughter for shooting her father to death. she's in jail now for a parole violation and has come to rely sherry for guidance. >> they're going to bring you another sandwich. you ca start on this. >> i'm good. you eat that. z >> i got this. i'm good. you're starving. >> i >> the friendship has grown trained. ca believes she's makesr a mistake by revealingdetails of her case. >> you n to quit talking about your charges. you were sti >> i feel like it's my business and grown. i'm 18. i know but i kind of see you trying to i really don't know what i'm
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trying to >> i'm going to tell you right now there's a lot of people in here, and i'mng about are hating on you andying they're tired of hearing about it. your story. this is not the place. i'm trying to i'm trying to look out for talking about it you need to stop talkingit. something bad is going to happen. you need to realize that. this little kid juvenile place. this is big girl's time. it's time you true up. >> somebody will show up and use your stuff against you. it happens in here. >> people are not going to like the fact that you killed your father. >> i understand that. >> it's betweennd ad. i'm just an inmate. you don't havee or anybody in here. >> you have to get to know me. it's like saying judge me and i'll prove you wrong. i'm not my charge by no means a all. >> i can see that.
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i'm not everybody in here. there's a lot of people hating chill out. . eat. i think mainly what is liking the fact that she killed her father. she's finding it very easy to talk i sho times in the head and there's more to it than she's told me3[ true i couldn't sit here calmly andlk to you or anybody else. i couldn't do it. r. i didn't experience it hope god i never do. that's why they're hating on her. they're trying to figure out how she can sit here and talk about it over and over and it don't bother her. >> everything that was said today like questionable if i can continue to trust her or not. all that was said. it just caught me by surprise. i wasn't expecting somebody tome out
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and sayefrknown. >> i think i'll just keep to!( until i leave. stay out of way and stay out of avoid people and everyt trying to toughen you up in case you go to prison. going to be a lot o be someone that will take you in. very very ups >> i'm just eating. iup. >> the next time we says she no longer wish to speak oncamera. edded to have frayedny wants to repair his relationship with jail staff. never had a problem with you. it was hard for me to expect that out you have a moregw secure cell after threatening to throw a cup of urine at an officer. >> we moved him to a quieter location. normally he doesn't give me a problem. i was quite surprised to find out that he was kicking the door and threatening to throw urine. se i'll open the can hear you.
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>> he says he's been upset over the>> i understand you're upset over some personal issues. >> i couldn't just talk to anybody. >> it's a very stressful time especially when you lose somebody and you can'tabout. it's hard onyou. i figure by putting you in here it will give you peace and punch your mind in you need to. you're not going to hurt hands or feet like you would kicking this steel dgest you do is you need to get paper. you sit down and write all your stuff out on paper. it helps a lot. trust me it does. it helps you release it. you are it on paper and you can go back >> i never thought about that. >> try that. >> it's like writing rap poem or story. >> yeah. a story. it dhelp. it's a nice way of
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you'll read the story? >> yeah i'll read it. >> i appreciate your coming to me. >> you're welcome. ot being disruptive for me and everything else. i just figure i'd give you p i figure that's what you needed. okay. talk toyou. thank you. >> with most of the inmates that don't cause problems i'll go out of my way to spend a little more time talking to all excited about writing everything down so he could show it later on. that boosted his attitude. he's a bit happier at the0! moment. i don't think we'll have a problem with him kicking the coming up. act like i ain't tried. >> even when i liv with you. >> you fought every day. >> you didn't mind nobody but your mother. >> did you expect anything different? >> father and son provide a lesson for all parents. what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding
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2,000 men and women are incarcerated at the louisville metro departments jail.re working on their cases hoping to clear their names go two inmates brian edmonds jr. and brian sr. a clear long lingering emotions. edmonds jr. asks jail officials to allowfather. with request was a. >> it really might chance i get to for a while. >> what's up baby? >> what's happening? >> what's going on? >> what's going on with you? >> let me tell you somebody before we start the conversation. i told them from.ó the get-go i choose the path i took. i chose to do what i wanted to do. at the same time i just want to
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know if you could do anything different what could you have done? >> it swrouldwould have been a whole lot different. i would have chose a different route so you wouldn't be in the footsteps you in. i'm tired of every time i look up in you the hole. that bothers me. i know you're going to handle your own. never knowing when something frustrating. that's very that you just got 30 years. we always had a friendship but we didn't h and son e when you locked up you talk a whole lot of sense, you butn't never demonstrated that. if we were both to get out toda could do to help me. even if you don't get out, what
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do you feel like you could do to help me. to listen and learn. >> you act like i ain't never tried. >> explain to me. >> even when i lived you. >> we fought almost every day. >> if i i what you doing? you didn't mind nobody but yr mother. >> did you expect anything different? >> no. from not there. >> i remember th christmas we had together. you remember that? you started irst time we really spent christmas together. that meant something to me. i never talkeit. i was about 12, that was the first time i felt like you really loved other than that i don't know what love is. i rather not had all that
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materialistic [ bleep ] and just had my mom and dad. i would have had some morals and principles. that's why i'm so angry. moments later edmonds jr. brings us his relationship with another woman and her young daughter. >> you on the phone telling the her you love her and her child. >> i wasn't talking to her. >> you love her and her child. >> i write you every day. >> can i finish? go through all that. i write you every day through the work aids. every letter i write you. it's not letter you wrote me saying you love me. don't try to make it seem like i told that little girl. >> you told her period. >> what do a child got to do with it? >> that ain't your child. >> you wasn't there for me when i was six and seven. >> why wasn't i? i was there. you call another man daddy. >> who was with my mom when you went to the pen? >> it don't matter. that was your mom choice.
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i only did this interview because they said you want to do it. >> i don't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. i told them i don't blame you. >> he's angry. >> he's supposed to be. i mean i get frustrated when i think about it because i already know that of the situation got something to do with me not being there. it's hardnowing he could end up it's hard to even about it. i always wanted to be there to run me away. for a long time imñ had grudge against her because she hadby. that's what was stopping me from being around him because of that. i should never have done it but i felt like that was the only way to get even with her. out and
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he was calling him dad, that was really touchingthat? >> no. i blamed your mom. i'm sorry that i was never a father figure instead of being i wanted it so bad. in want you to end upere with me. you might think i'm just saying th for the cameras. i only did this interview with it to have this conversa this is affecting me way m you i know that majority of this is only because4sere. >> that's all i wanted to he little bitty piece right conversation that's the only piece i wanted to hear. i'm nor mad at him. i swear to i'm not. now that we realize, we can just get off this bridge ande get on some father son stuff if it's jail cell to jai cell. if i was to get out and you have to stay makeimpression.
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i don't know how but ain't nothinimpossible. u that's the only thing i say you owe me. i don' you owe me enough to put in your effort. i don't care how am. i love you. >> i love yousay. i'm satisfied though. i ain't mad at him. ain't no hard or nothing. i felt like he wasre about man he know how to do. know he's wrong and that's all that matters. i knows. now know.+8
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