departmental property, being disrupti, plumbing -- that's flooding. inmate schilling does th s in 12 months. inte schilling got 60 -days on >> with schilling about to leave for prison to start hiof the ja veteran officers, lieutenant collins, hopes to get througto him so that he mig some day what's going on. learn from his mistakes. >> how old are you now? and there's urine coming up the >> 20. >> you're 20 years old, man. floor. tn backknow, you continue down th and forth. you're going to be in the system. and you know what recidivism is? >> recently sentenced to >> no. a oubled, young inmate attempts to ma a >> it's just you keep coming back, keep coming back. impression on staff. >> why can't you ask like you ú but you're only 20 years old now, so you haven ight. you see what i'm saying? what's in your wallet? >> yeah. >> you got any kidyet? >> no. >> you want some? order to achieve a very different goal. get 36 months interest-ffiing through thanksgiving weekend srain, >> yeah. >> i'd rather be someone for áwmyself where getting out, traveling to get my and save $400, $500, up to $600 >> you want them to see you life back together. >> a young woman who gave birth going in and out of jail your whole life? on beautyrest and posturepedic.

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cried, i can't let go ♪ ♪ look at me now, doiim better, all right? cell is now my home ♪pv but you keep getting caught. right here, you can change that. they're all crystal clear to you're the only one with the ability to do that. ♪ i cano back, changed my life, losing all control ♪ you can't let these folks control you, you can't let me >> put this right here, put it ♪ look at me now control you. you've got to do that. in your heart, you know, like ♪ really concentrate.focus, reall >> all right, man. you wa to hear about. your heart and shuffle these three times. >> thanks. >> it's hot. >> brian sauer is just one of n >> thank you. >> all right, collolins. coming up -- ♪ i get another letter from my le on, it's i r granny the other day♪ wi ♪ she says stuff's the same, ain't nothing chanar ♪ they try to send me to a bone trip, vacation, a strip ♪ >> the themes of their songs and >>$ michaelraper sings the blues after getting a letter ÷t and promoting coras a t fromome.  >> i got a letter from my grandmama saying my mothern goio raps are often based on pain and the doctor. she's afraid that something really bad is going on with her body, and i pray that it's not suffering. true." ♪ a lot of ass-whoopings ♪ oh, oh, mom i miss you card or something, but this is ten weeks,en months, ten days, >> but some, like sauer, hope to if you areú one of the millions of men sing a different tune the ne than this, and damn, i m was a teyears, or it could represent the tenth month, which is who have used androgel 1%, my life away ♪ >> you know, iant to live a e, there's big news. october. usually, the girls that have comm so both are used to treat men with low testosterone. they'll offer me chips, crackers, , r soap, sometimes for shampoo, androgel 1.62% whatever i need at the time. but basically, this is my hustle. saying?sshe's there for me, se is from the makers of the number one prescribed "íi love to do it. l the girls when i it. testosterone replacement therapy. >> as a sentenced inmate, it raises your testosterone levels, and... griffin is in the minority asvi money, phols, letters, is concentrated, so you could use less gel. cards, things of that nature,

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i try to convey my feelings and problems, had nothing to do with any of my outside issues, through something like this. here long enough to ap sh on the stree., i'm trying to be the most ever . mom. >> because she violated parole r through drug use, she will ed him stay out of trouble here. transfer to a that has not been the case for 20-year-old joshua schilling. >> it's kind of sad that i didn't get to hear her say her [ bleep ] first words. he said last night that she actually said her rst words, ] schilling is housed in a single-person segregation ceave you're limping right now. which kind of sucks. >> i'm not limping. water off to his sink and toilet after he threatened to flood the but, so, of course i missed >> you're limping! >> hey, johnson! that, and i'm sure tre's more, there's more that's going to happen that i'm going to end up >> at the louisville department of corrections jail, many of the missing. >> so, right now we're going to try ec saying call the sergeant and let them "dada" to you. > have a seat on your bk. coming up -- >> just to let you know, the new >> i wish i was there. sanitation sheets that they're i mean, this freaking sucks. doing -- have a seat on your bunk. >> yeah? don't move. >> i got one today where you're heels three times and you might get out. >> a bittersweet visit for patricia smith.lan behind one

>> is there a ason why you're younger brother, who's a doing this, schilling? wants that pink castle thing. sergeant, have been on staff th>> and il make sure we get >> police. >> who? and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. something before it becomes a only citi price rewind bigger problem. t's pretty >> police, i'm mad at the automatically searches for the lowesprice. much done. he did that, though. police. so. he took care of me early on in my cr.he bought my first gun fo. i paid him back, but you know, he really helped me ong with a lot of things, you know, helped me out immensely coming through academy, you know. just use your citi card probably a big part of the >> y'all are the police. have a super sparkly day! ok. reason that i was the honor grad >> schilling was recently sentenced to 15 years for [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magirriage. out of the academy was because multiple felonies, including of what i knew coming in from assault, and is awaiting transfer to prison. >> what is w w buy now. save later. we're pretty much equal footing to start acting a fool, start flooding the walls and -- >> i now except for the rank thing, so. >> but when the brothers have a dispab one person they bo like to call. >> i'm going to tell mom on you. your shirt. >> there was water all over the >> it's tore off. can't get any bars. floor. >> they were going to cut it off, so i grabbed the cup. >> because you're flooding my wall. >> i wasn't flooding. >> you do this all the time. i'm not putting up with it. >> call mom. >> over in the disciplinary >> during schilling's 11-month stay at louisville metro, he has been anything but a model segregation unit, michael draper would like nothing more than to inmate. >> he's very childish, got a call his mom, but he has no money on his inmate account with attitude. which to make a phone call. every time he wants attention,

that's how he acts out. [ inaudible ] >> i ain't got no 91cjfamily wio time put on the phone. >> do you feel better now? my family don't do that. they just do it old-school. ♪ fighting for my life, fighting he's standing up on the bench in ry about ing my door. for my life, yeah ♪ >> draper might not get to speak that [ bleep ]. >> it disrupts the entire wall. to his family, but they often you get one person started, the make their way into his music. other person started. ♪ got another lettery from my granny the other day ♪ ♪ she says stuff's the same, the other inmates, whether they're trying to make a phone call, read, concentrate, whatever it just, you know, they ain't nothing changed arou the way ♪ ♪ she said my kids are growing up, they asking where i am ♪ ♪ i'm sitting in my cell, can same thing. >> goto take these off. only think of them ♪ >> so, usually one starts acting out, we try and remove them from ♪ singing, oh, oh, oh, you got me singing oh, oh, granny, i that situation as quick as possible because we know what's miss you ♪ going to happen with the other ones. ♪ i got another letter from my mama the other day ♪ >> still kick like this. >> now i'm going to -- >> why do you insist on making things hard? >> i'm just playing. ♪ says she's working overtime for another place to stay ♪ ♪ bills are stacking up, a new >> stand up. problem every day ♪ ♪ i'm thinking in my mind, next >> we're not playing. we're done playing. >> stand up. >> i can still kick them to the time my mother stays in ♪ back, too. ♪ oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, mom, i >> we're done playing. >> all right. >> because i'm going to take everything you've got, okay? are you good with that? miss you ♪

>> yeah, that's fine. >> and draper recently received some troubling news about his mother. >> i got a letter from my >> good. andmama saying my mama's sick, >> i can still kick like this. >> mr. schilling, let me ask you something, is this really all about attention? >> no, it's not about no saying my mama "has been going to the doctor. attention -- she's afraid that something >> yea it is. >> i'm just bored. >> it's about attention, becaus really bad is going on with her body, and i pray that it's not true." i don't know. that's why i'm really worried, because i don't know what it is. >> draper has been known to act out in order to stay in ther ha >> i ain't trying to get no isolation harder to take. >> it's a bad day. they say there ain't nothing to i've been bored. do but sit in here and think. i ventually, you've got to grow up. >> draper is due to be released that's not the way to get what you want. from segregation in just days >> yeah, right. >> some bu and placed back in general population, and this time, he might just let it happen. >> because i don't want to be that's all it is.'t notng up. sitting in here worrying about my mama because i'm really making it worse. i'm liable to snap out, catching whole new charges and all kind of crazy stuff. so, that's pretty much what i'm >> i

>> joshua schill ing gets some going to try to do, though, get my head together and do that. discipline. what recidivism is? >> while draper copes with his >> no. mother's illness in jail, >> and some advi. >> you're only 20 years old, man. patricia smith has had to cope it's just how we live. with being a mother in jail. she gave birth to her now >> yeah. 7-month-old daughter, jada, >> don't fall into this trap. shortly after her arrival at but first -- >> mt of the 2,300 inmates at egnant. gether louisville metro. >> tell her. >> today, jada and her father, >> after giving birth in jail, an inmate struggles with being an absentee mom. jason, are scheduled to visit. corrections live in dormorable >> he said last night th srst w which was dada.t mom, which kin sucks.> >> today i get to see jada. i'm just excited to see her, see how big she's gotten. with the spark miles card from capital one, socialize throughout the day. but those wh >>his is our displ she actually said "dada" for the segregation housing unit. the doors down here are solid.o throw urine or feces, water, anything like thut first time, so maybe i can get her to talk to me. you'll see the black-and-white >> and say what? striped jumpsuits,only are allo >> and say maybe mommy. >> visits, usually most inmates, you can get your mind off your s they get to come out one hour a day. they'll stay in their cells for. problems just for a minute. do you see mama? >> but it comes with limitations. at louisville metro, they are noncontact and are conducted through a video monitor and telephone. >> they don't actually have a

they do not gevisits, they do face-to-face visit anymore. >> why? >> because we had a lot of problems with contraband in the place, you know. we would sit them on one side of the table and the visitors on the othee. they would distract the officer for one reason or another, throw not go to the gym, they do not get any commissary or anything something under the table or like that while they are doing throw it over the table, you disciplinary time. you'll hear the inmates refer know. so, we had a lot of problems this as the ho. with contraband, so we decided it tends to get a little loud and noisy. [ inaudible video visits was a whole lot better. >> the last time i saw jada, i >> sometimes they get bored, a. tried to get her to look at me, but she was too busy trying to get the phone, so, she really didn't say much. oh, there's my baby. hey. your boa! [ garth+] thor's small business earns double miles on every purchase, every day! ahh, the new fabrics. put it on my spark card. ow.ay! >> what's up? [ garth ] why settleor less? business as usual. the spiked heels are working. >> come on, let's go. >> i >> why do i t to go for? >> pick her up. i can't see her. >> basically because you're she looks so cute! running around andcting crazy. [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. >> y'all are lying, man. choose unlimited rewards with d! >> a lot of these guys, you've let me talk to her. what's in your wallet? >> jada. what are you doing? [ chrs and applause ] got to understand, they're locked up 23 hours a day, you know, and they get bored.vk say dada. >> say hi to your mom. >> say mommy! >> get your hands off , man. oh, she's holding the phone. were you holding the phone? >> it's like she's ready for conversation.

>> quit touching me, man. >> you know, i've seen guys >> hi, baby. >> look. flood because they're bored, >> hi, baby. she's probably wondering where i am. >> talking to mama? bang on doors because they're bored, broke chairs because theye bored. >> yeah, she's so pretty. >> show mom your tooth. see it? >> she's sticking her tongue out. so, she only has one tooth? >> yeah, working on two. >> smith is waiting transfer to >> it's just jail. prison to begin serving a two-year sentence for drug possession. behavior might also appear to be on the bright side, kentucky motivated by boredom. >> i was state prisons allow for contact visitation, so smith will soon be able to hold jada. acting ridiculous and acting >> i wish i was there. silly and playing and stuff like >> just close your eyes and tap your heels three times and you >> draper has been in jail for might be there. >> shut up. >> on the other side. ain't heard nothing on when you're being sent out? the past 17 months, awaiting domestic violence, unlawful imprisonment and fleeing or >> they don't tell you in here evading police. for security reasons when you're his behavior has resulted in him spending most of his time in segregation, bute says that's by design. leaving.

they just call your name and you >> i'd rather be somewhere by go. this sucks. myself where i can focus o getting oud k together, anso i wish i could hold her. we've got a minute left. oh, let me talk to her again. jada, mommy loves you. >> who's that, mama? that's why i'm here in ho, is >> love you. make sure you record her walking because sically, i told them and talking and stuff, so i won't miss it all. get me away from everybody. i need to get myself somewhere i love you guys. where i can get my head, focus on my case. put her up. >> it's kind of sad. >> michael draper likes to manipute his housing. he prefers to be in a single cell. not common, but it happens with in, what you'd say a chaos of a dorm, 30-man dorm, whether it's for reasons of fighting their last time i touched jada, she case or just the solitude. but what he does is, when he's about to serve out his disciplinary, he'll create a situation where he gets written[ didn't have any teeth, she wasn't talking, she wasn't crawling, she wasn't sitting up. >> try to keep her where she still knows her mom, you know what i'm saying? because she really ain't held up internally, wheerve to an of create a situation where it ts , her or nothing like that. probably about a week total, gets continuous discr isn't the like, that's it. so, i just try to keep it where with a history of acting out in segregation. [ bleep ] she knows her. joshua schilling's recent >> visit wasn't long enough at

outburst in his cell, which all. happy before and sad after. included banging on the door and flooding t h because i feel like i'm going to him in a holding cell, pendingr lose all the baby years, you know? all the baby things are going to be gone. so, it's kind of sad. coming up -- >> got one here that says "louisville." >> -- brian sauer becomes a jailhouse jeweler and michael draper finds trouble in general population. "kzó

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music industry is a long-shot under the best of circumstances, that doesn't stop inmates at the louisville metro department of ♪ but one day, you know they say, at the end of the rainbow ♪ ♪ yeah, rainbow, at the end of the rainbow, they tell him it's gold, tell him it's gold ♪ talent from singing to rapping to artistry to general, i mean, just about every field you can think of. if given the right path at an earlier stage, you know, could have been very successful at whatever they had done, but for whatever reason, it's turned out, you know, they've made choices that's landed them in here. never too late to utilize that talent, but for some people, it becomes harder and harder when for someone to give you a >> when brian sauer came to jail, he knew he had talent as a singer. ♪ look at me now, i've lost some hair, watched my heart grow

cold ♪ ♪ the tears inside, what i don't i can't let go, look at me now ♪ >> but in the time he's been at louisville metro, he's discovered a new talent. >> got one here says "louisville." gotta represent louisville, kentucky, where we're from. that's a pretty popular one throughout the jail. and i make -- these are smaller ones, actually. . >> sauer makes rnumber of items together in his dorm. he starts with a plastic deodorant bottle, some string pulled from his mattress. >> i'll take three of these strings here and braid them together, makes this right here. >> he uses the string to slice off the small, ring-shaped neck of the plastic bottle.

>> cut that off. >> three for a dollar! i've got to pop that ball out of there.2 the ball's the hardest thing. i so pop that ball out, take the ring, file the ring down on the ground. >> sauer uses plastic bags for the ring's outer coating. >> take a strip of the garbage bag, take a couple bar of soap,é tie it around there, put it on there. spin it around. then i stretch it. this is the string used to make the white. >> for lettering, he uses cellophane wrap from jail-issued sandwiches, and he creates dye by rubbing colored pencils on the floor and adding water. light green. the less color you put, you could make them lighter colors,

but you know, there's a certain way you weave it in there. it's a pretty tedious process, but you know, in jails, in prisons, we don't got nothing but time. >> it takes sauer about two hours to make one ring. >> it's a great time-passer. >> and a hustle, huh? >> and a hustle. yeah, so, i sell them. sometimes i'll sell them for $2, but sometimes i'll just sell d them just for a noodle or a shot, you know what i'm saying? >> inmates typically refer to the trades they do for snacks and favors as hustles d new to >> another relationship. another trip. >> angela griffin's is foreign-telling. >> whoo, there's some money on top of love. you've got some money coming with love, girl. acalg time ago. >> griffin's latest customer, patricia smith, is awaiting e to griffin. >> you're about to travel.

hopefully sooner than you want here's your alternate love card. and then you have worry. >> of course, all that worry. >> you're ways worried. there's money on that journey, for some reason. there's that strong relationship. that's like the fourth -- >> oh, my god, tha"t's crazy. >> that's like the fourth time it's popped up. look. >> and marriage. >> and marriage, with a man who's worried about you. >> jason, of course. >> michael draper has a hustle as well. his involves the creative use of soap. >> i don't know what it is. i don't know what it is for real. >> draper was recently returned to general population, where he has been busy making soap sculptures that he trades for commissary items or favors. >> did this last night. this is soap. the brown stuff is coffee. the gray for the hairs and all that is strands of bnket. and the black stuff right here

is like the soot and stuff in the windows, the black, sticky stuff. all this other material is just bars of soap, broken little pieces and stuff. >> in the ort time he's been back in population, draper has traded his sculptures for envelopes to mail motions he's written to his judge. and since he has no money in his inmate account, he talked another inmate into making a phone call to his mother to check on her health. >> they called and said she said she was all right and she was doing okay now, but i didn't get to talk to her, but they said she's all right. >> using jail-issued items for purposes other tfo they were intended is technical but when draper's confronted about it, he has a ready-made alibi. >> i'm ready to get in the shower right now, then. i'm going to go jump in the shower rht now. ne inmate leaves the jail behind, y from home.)p

>> left ad seg and went back to the dorm. now he's back. it's a revolving cycle for draper.

an inmate's stay at the louisville metro department of corrections jail can range from mere hours to years, depending on the complexity of the charges. some will leave here only to serve their sentences in state prison, but for many others, their last day on the inside is their first day of renewed freedom on the outside. today is that day for farrah burleson. >> i'm going home. >> after hvow long? >> a long time, 543 days. yes.

>> oh. >> aww. spending nearly two years in jail for stealing scrap metal to fund a drug habit, burleson now has a second chance. >> i have five years probation, nose to the grind. i'm going to finish college and go see my babies. i'm so excited. will soon leave the jail as well, but for a different reason. she's due to transfer to state prison any day now and copes the best she can. >> i like to sleep away my time because it seems like it makes the days go by a lot faster. i usually wake up around dinner time, which is about 4:00 or 4:30 and then eat, and then when i get done eating dinner, i'll try to call jason and talk to him, and then i'll come back here and put in my earplugs and just try to sleep.

when i sleep, i'll have drea and sometimes nightmares about this place and about my girls, and that's probably the worst parté to sleep is to try not to think about what's going on on the outside world because there's nothing i can do it. >> others at louisville metro find their own ways to deep with that emptiness. ways to play old games. >> these are dominos made out of shower shoes. you've got to be innovative. >> thiéfs is what we made th out of. what we take a shower with. >> soth. you sehow theyre? >> you have to take a string out of a mattress. >> yeah, bause we ain't got no >> there goes our boarma of a shower shoe. >> who's going without shoes

now, though? >> we try not to let people go without shoes, because it's nasty in that shower. >> while sauer enjoys dominos -- >> what i call a dominologist. >> it provides just an escape from more presng concerns on his mind. he's facing charges of burglary and fleeing or evading police. of ten-year ntence in exchange for a guilty plea, but i declined his offer. >> because he has two prior felony convictions for drug possession and theft, he could bekias much as 2to life if convicted on his cre he is scheduled to go to trial in just days. >> i mean, i'merm saying, even though i've been in these situations a thousand times over, but when you're leak a that amount of time, you're thinking 25 to life, not knowing case is going to be,t' of god and -- >> the jury. >> the jury, actually, yeah. >> even though he's faced with an uncertain four, sauer says there's one thought that keeps him gog.

day that i get out, because i mean, there's nothing like the day you walk out of thesdong, a stepping back into society. it's just like a feeling of euphoria. you feel elated. it's like,eird, because life still evolves out there. you know what i'm saying. two or three years, your kids were 12 and 13 years old, when you get out, they're 16 and [ years old with their own kids. it's like, damnephews that i'ven in my life. so, it's lika trip for us to get readjusted back to society. >> that'a challenge michael draper would gladly take, but he's found it difficto re >> what'd you do? >> he's now back in segregation. >> you can't remember this time? that much, huh? >> disruptive behavior. >> oh, disruptive behavior? what, beating -- >>e 19 months.

he doesn't follow rules very well. he wus seg not a month ag and now went to a dorm, apparently, and got in trouble in a dorm and no 's just a revolving cycle for draper. >> can't deal with all the people in there. i like the peace. >> uh huh. it's jthere's always somebody. >> huh? >> there's always somebody. all right, well, good luck to you. are you going back to court soon? >> yeah. >> are you getting out this time? >> i hope so. >> uh huh, right. >> draper has been working on cat of the time he's been at louisville metro, and he's feeling pretty good about his chances. >> said i might really beat this case.óx no witnesses showing up. i'm ready to go home, hopefully. >> and how is it you're going to >> because there ain'to witnesses showing up. can't find the witesif you don' witnesses, then you don't have nothing.

it's basically your word against whoever else, and if there ain't nobody there, you can't cross examine nobody, so there's no case. >> am i going to see you again? >> no. >> right. 0 >> going to hand to me like th >> no. >> i'm goi see you again, but m gointo see you at walmart. >> walmart? >> yeah, all right. >> take it easy. >> see you, draper. ut, i'll see him again. a lot of these guy, i don't mean anything negative about it, but this is wh t they come to jail, they get out, come to jail, they get out.the guess you could say. it's just a lifestyle choice that they make.