>> an 18-year-old shoots her father to death and find a surrogate mother on the inside. >> when she walked in she was scared to death, shaking. i'm just going to take care of her and show her the ropes. let's get you ready for the shower. >> somebody has threatened to flood the wall. >> another inmate not known for trouble issues a vile threat. >> this is a cup of urine right there. >> two other inmates provide a cautionary tale for fathers and sons everywhere. >> i was out when you were seven. >> you call another man daddy. who is supposed to be getting mad?

in downtown louisville, kentucky two adjoining buildings serve as the heart of the criminal justice system. they house both the courts and the jail. on any given day about 2300 men and women have been incarcerated here. most have only been accused of crimes. it can be intense as the inmates and officers know all too well. >> you're looking at a couple of assaults a month. you try to train your people to deal with any type of situation that comes up. you put yourself at risk. >> today is one of those times. >> the officer got assaulted. >> by who? >> by an inmate.

>> we've had an officer assaulted up on the fourth floor. they have the inmate under control. >> officers use pepper spray to subdue the inmate who is on jail on murder charges who has pled not guilty. he will stay restrained in the chair for up to two hours until officers feel it's safe. >> that dorm has a lot of young and aggressive inmates. >> you good? >> i'm all right. >> soon the door opens up, inmate steps out and cold cocks me. >> what's wrong with you? >> nothing. >> why did you hit an officer? we just walked through the dorm

and everything seemed to be going fine and my officer go in the dorm and as soon as the door opens up you hit one. i'm trying to figure out why. >> i plead the fifth. my other eye. >> which eye? >> this left one. >> it's part of the job. >> during the assault several inmates try to rush the door which staff view as an escape attempt. >> the dorm on camera was observed. several of them covering their

faces. picking up what could be a weapon. we activated the s.o.r.t. team. >>. >> we've are going in to restore order. >> wait for the phone call. >> every situation is different. the biggest concerns and threats is we don't know who is involved. we don't know if it was planned. there's too many unknowns. we want to use a lot of manpower. this has to be done fast and safe. we're going to suit up in full gear, helmet, body armor, vest. we're going to take the mk-9 container for crowd control. we're going to take flexi cuffs due to the number of them, taser shield. >> because of the potential to lose control of the floor, it's a dangerous situation. >> we're going to go in and put them in flexi cuffs.

>> we're going to order them on the ground. anybody that doesn't comply we know that's where our attention needs to be focused. >> due to safety concerns, the s.o.r.t. would not allow us to enter the dorm. we were able to shoot it on the monitor. >> they're telling everybody on the ground and flexi cuffing them. they're facing them against the wall until they have searched all. they will stay in that area. >> with the dorm secured, our crew is allowed back inside. >> get them searched. make sure we have people looking at the dvr trying to identify the main perpetrators. >> they are able to identify the

ring leaders. they will be moved to single cells. they will not be returning to that dorm. >> see how they got us laid out. >> [ bleep ] ain't right for real. that's how i feel. >> these inmates are still agitated but as of right now everything is going the way we planned it. >> officers remove a number of inmates they suspect are those who rushed the door and isolate them in single person cells in the administration unit for further questioning. the inmates remaining in the dorm are placed on 24 hour lockdown. among them bryan edmonds, sr. >> i just had a rough like throughout my 36 years of living.

i was doing in school straight as and bs. i just chose the wrong route and this is where it landed me. >> mr. brian edmonds sr. sodomy, assisted felony one. he was sentenced to 30 years. >> having been sentenced he awaits transfer to prison. he served a total of 14 years. >> tired of being in this jail. can't wait to get away from here. >> he does find himself in usual circumstances here. housed in another floor on the cell is his son who has been charged with two counts of

murder. >> we ain't got no real close relationship. i ain't never been there with him growing up. he know i love him and he loves me. we ain't really had no father and son relationship. it was more like a friendship. if they convict him of it the blame would be on me because i ain't never been there. i'll take his charge if they were to let me. i would do his time because i don't want to see him go through nothing like this. >> coming up. >> you're following in your father's footsteps. >> i don't know him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended when people say that. >> an 18-year-old takes her father life.

>> i just aimed it right at his head. @ñ

>> every staff person is aware that violence is brought out any time and it's directed at them. the latest markell white punched an officer. >> it resulted in several other disturbances in the dorm. >> white who currently in jail awaiting trial for murder that been put on s.o.r.t. status. the highest security designation in the entire jail. for now he will be locked up 23 hours a day, lose all his privileges and have little more

to do than exercise or sleep. >> what did you do? what did you do to the officer? >> i hit him. i hit him. at the end of the day i came out [ bleep ]. maced. what's that chair called? >> reporter: restraint chair. >> restraint chair. >> i'm going to talk to you real quick. what's going on? i want to talk to you a bit. >> i got fed up. >> what are you feeling like today? >> you know a disciplinary officer will be seeing you. you'll be on s.o.r.t. we'll be reviewing you depend ing your actions every two or three weeks. i'll be talking to you.

>> all right. >> white says he felt disrespected. >> i hate being handled like a little boy. i hate being disrespected. >> how do you feel you were disrespected? >> talking to me any kind of way. i show them the utmost respect. i talk to them in a mannerable way. they don't talk back mannerable. >> could you ever forsee you doing that again? >> no one knows what the future hold. >> the future is cloudy for bryan edmonds as well. >> i try to calm down from fighting. in here a lot of times your hands get forced.

you too many chiefs and not enough indians in here if you know what i mean. i need a different environment. that's why i'm always fighting. people always want that drama with me. >> it's the kind of drama the jail doesn't want. staff has compiled a list of keep froms or inmates that must be kept away from him. this list makes it hard for the jail the house him. >> continue. >> brian edmonds. >> is this junior or senior? >> senior. >> once a month chief of staff dwayne clark conduct a meeting to review the inmates housed in single person segregation cells throughout the jail. >> these are premium items here.

>> need to follow and get an evaluation. >> you can but he's more of behavioral. >> do one on them him way and see what you come up with, lee. >> staff members focus on his favors in jail, edmonds jr. says his thoughts are mostly on what brought him here. he's charged with two counts of murder to which he's pled not guilty. >> i'm facing the death penalty. i'm fighting for my life. they trying to take my like. i'm 18. i done had a rough life. the streets raised me. they say experience is life's greatest teacher. i never had any role models. nobody to try to guide me the

opposite way. now that i'm in here caged in. >> there's no telling if the presence of a role model could have prevented edmonds from ending up in jail. the void left by his father's prison lengthy stays made life more painful. >> my dad upstairs on the fourth floor. he just got 30 years. he been in the pen all my life. it don't phase me. >> you're following in your father's footsteps. >> i don't even know him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended with people say that. i don't deal with him. ain't nothing he can do to change my circumstance but stay out my face. i take total responsibility for anything i do. i'm never going to sit here and say my daddy would have raised me different.

it is what it is. i'm going to take responsibility for any position that i put myself in. i feel like in order for me to better myself i got to look at it as it's my fault. i feel like that's what i think going to help me develop into a man. not just a man by age but a man mentally. >> coming up, i ain't got to go through this. >> i don't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. >> they struggle for what could be the final meeting of their lives. a vulnerable inmate encounters a surrogate mom.

the intake division is rarely quite. while most will bond out, many others will be detained indefinitely until their charges

are resolved in court. just hours earlier 18-year-old danielle became one of the youngest and newest inmates to be assigned a bed here. she was arrested for a probation violation. her original conviction was second-degree manslaughter. two years earlier she killed her father. >> i remember grabbing a gun and aimed it right at his head. yes my intentions were to kill at that moment. i shot him multiple times in the back of the head. i know it's hard to grasp but there's no telling what you'll do. according to court records social workers found reports of abuse in the home. >> the night before he get in an argument he hits me and pulls my

hair. finally he throws up his hands and go to bed. hi heart is beating. i'm shaking. when the abuse continued the following morning she felt her life was in danger. she picked up her fathers gun and shot him in the back of the head. >> how many times did you shoot him? >> 10, 12 times. it's horrifying. it's something i dream about. i have to live with that for the rest of my life. >> not all memories of her father is negative. >> he take me places. we go to movies sometimes. he took me to concerts. that's one thing we did get along about. ac/dc is our band. he introduced me to it. i've been listening to it since the day i was born because he even said that he used to bounce me around in my mom's stomach with the radio turned up with ac/dc playing.

i loved him. he was my father. that's who he was. i'll always love him. >> several hours after the shooting carmack turned herself into the police. he pled guilty to second-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison. she spent most of the following year in a juvenile detention facility. she violated her probation by not taking her medication. >> i stopped taking my medication because it wasn't helping me. i needed counseling and stuff like that. my probation officer says i stopped taking my medication and refused to take it. that's when she puts the cuffs on me. it's not that i refused not to

take it. i would have taken it if i had known this would happen. a judge will review the matter and could send her to an adult prison to serve the remainder of her prison. >> what are you reading? >> a handbook. >> a fact that's not opinion lost on sherry. >> you ready to learn your number on the phone. >> who is helping her adjust on her first day in jail. >> she was scared to death, shaking. i just immediately grabbed her and stayed up with her last night. i've been showing her the ropes. around this way. >> my case right now it's like i need to trust someone because i feel like i got nobody . i know in jail is not the idea place. sherry came in and took me under her wing. >> she's serving one year for failure to pay child support. >> you hit one five times. then you wait. there will be a because and it will tell you what to do from there. you can find out your commisary

information. >> unfortunately i know the ropes. that's not something i'm proud of. >> we'll have to get you a new bracelet. come on. i'm going to need him. they can charge you can escape. she needs a new bracelet. hers tore and she's having to carry it around. i don't want her to get in trouble. she's 18. my youngest is 18. i can just imagine him walking in here. he would probably have the same look as she did. is that danielle's bracelet? >> yes. danielle carmark. >> they are preyed upon. that's why i did pit.

there's lesbian activity that goes on. it's more experienced women taking advantage of a naive girl. >> how do we know you're not going to prey upon danielle? >> you're just going to have to take my word for it. i'm not. >> you're not what? >> going to prey upon the young and naive. do not take this off for anything. you can get in a lot of trouble for that. let's get you ready for a shower. >> coming up, there's a lot of people hating on you. you need to chill out. >> new tensions threaten the relationship. >> everything that was said today is questionable if i can continue to trust her because

all that was said. >> and. >> he's threatening to throw urine on us. >> an inmate not normally known for trouble finds himself knee deep in it.

.

on any given day staff at the louisville correction depositions jail know one inmate will cause enough of a disturbance to warrant a response. today it's in the disciplinary unit.

>> he's threatened to flood the wall because he didn't get any additional at chow. >> put your hands behind your back. when officers arrive the inmate complies with orders. >> we're going to move him to a quieter location. he'll be in there by himself. he won't have any access to throw urine. >> this is why we're doing this. take a look. there's a cup of urine. he was going to throw it on the officer. he said i'm going to throw it on you. >> he warned the officer?

>> the problem would be when the warning is not taken serious. he said i told you i was going to do it. proactively instead of reactively on this one. >> the inmate who made the threats was recently moved to segregation two weeks earlier. several inmates rushed the door of the housing unit. >> you never cause problems. >> seems to be some personal issues. he said he's going to be quiet the rest of the night for you. >> good. that's what we need. >> we'll see. >> he's awaiting trial for murder. he's pled not guilty but lately he's been dealing with another death.

>> my daddy died. i feel like everything is ending. >> how did your father die? >> he got smoked. he got smoked. it was last wednesday. my dad didn't have a relationship like a real bond. he had other kids he took care of. he ain't never took care of me. at the same time i didn't hold that against him. i still got love for him. he ain't nothing but 38, 39 years old. >> he faces for time in segregation due to the lates incident. markell white was given 60 days in segregation. he's lost all privileges including gym and visitation. he's on day 14 of his stay.

>> how's it's been going in here? >> it's all right. it's stressful not being out there. i need to get out there to my son. that's the only thing that really stresses me out because i want to be a father figure. i know what it feel like not to have a father. i don't want him doing the same thing. >> you didn't have a father? >> i had one but in and out. right now i'm following his footsteps. >> when was the last time you got to touch your child? >> i ain't. >> you never touched your child? >> trying to stay. >> it's been several months since bryan edmonds has touched his son who is incarcerated one

floor below him. >> we had an argument in here. they put keep aways on us. i want him to know i'm sorry i haven't been here. i know that's the reason he's going through what he's going through. i want to apologize for never be there. >> the two men might not have much time to reconcile. edmonds sr. is about to leave and start a 30-year prison. edmonds jr. is facing the death penalty. when told of his father's apology he's surprised. >> i'll will 19. that's the most mature thing i probably heard him say. him taking responsibility is unbelievable. that's a major move. make me feel like he do give a [ bleep ].

i would like to be there and hear him say, man i blame myself for what you're going through. i don't know. i guess it would change how i look at a lot of things in life. it would help me get rid of a bunch of hatred that i always had toward my daddy. >> coming up. the edmonds give their relationship what could be its final chance. first, when i say stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it. a different sort of parental relationship hits a nerve. 

.    .

make sure you have your arm bands, please. >> the louisville metro department jail is the first facility 18-year-old danielle carmack has served time in.

he was convicted of second-degree manslaughter for shooting her father to death. she's in jail now for a parole violation and has come to rely on sherry for guidance. >> they're going to bring you another sandwich. you can start on this. >> i'm good. you eat that. >> i got this. i'm good. you're starving. >> i just woke up. >> the friendship has grown trained. carmack believes she's makes a mistake by revealing details of her case. >> you need to quit talking about your charges. you were still talking about your charges and case. >> i feel like it's my business and i'm grown. i'm 18. i know it's still young but i kind of see you trying to look out for me. i really don't know what i'm trying to say.

>> i'm going to tell you right now there's a lot of people in here, and i'm talking about a lot of people that are hating on you and your case. they're saying they're tired of hearing about it. you're changing your story. this is not the place. i'm trying to help you. i'm trying to look out for you. when i say stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it. something bad is going to happen. you need to realize that. this ain't little kid juvenile place. this is big girl's time. it's time you true up. >> somebody will show up and use your stuff against you. it happens in here. >> people are not going to like the fact that you killed your father. >> i understand that. >> it's between you and god. i'm just an inmate. you don't have to convince me or anybody in here. >> you have to get to know me. it's like saying judge me and i'll prove you wrong.

i'm not my charge by no means at all. >> i can see that. i'm not everybody in here. there's a lot of people hating on you. you need to chill out. . eat. i think mainly what it is is people are not liking the fact that she killed her father. she's finding it very easy to talk about. if i shot my dad ten times in the head and there's more to it than she's told me if it's true, i couldn't sit here calmly and talk to you or anybody else. i couldn't do it. i'm not her. i didn't experience it. i hope to god i never do.

that's why they're hating on her. they're trying to figure out how she can sit here and talk about it over and over and it don't bother her. >> everything that was said today like questionable if i can continue to trust her or not. all that was said. it just caught me by surprise. i wasn't expecting somebody to come out and say that. i should have known. >> i think i'll just keep to myself and do me until i leave. stay out of way and stay out of trouble, avoid people and everything. >> i'm trying to toughen you up in case you go to prison. it's going to be a lot harder. there isn't going to be someone that will take you in. you need to prepare yourself. you seem very, very upset with me. >> i'm just eating. i just woke up. >> the next time we checked in with carmack, she says she no longer wish to speak on camera. while her relationship appear edded to have frayed, anthony

wants to repair his relationship with jail staff. >> i never had a problem with you. it was hard for me to expect that out you have. he was moved to a more secure cell after threatening to throw a cup of urine at an officer. >> we moved him to a quieter location. normally he doesn't give me a problem. i was quite surprised to find out that he was kicking the door and threatening to throw urine. >> have a seat. i'll open the door so i can hear you. >> he says he's been upset over the recent death of his father. >> i understand you're upset

over some personal issues. >> i couldn't just talk to anybody. >> it's a very stressful time especially when you lose somebody and you can't leave to go anything to do about. it's hard on you. i figure by putting you in here it will give you peace and quiet. punch your mind in you need to. you're not going to hurt your hands or feet like you would kicking this steel door. one thing that i could suggest you do is you need to get paper. you sit down and write all your stuff out on paper. it helps a lot. trust me it does. it helps you release it. you are putting it on paper and you can go back later. >> i never thought about that. >> try that. >> it's like writing rap or a poem or story. >> yeah. a story. it does help. it's a nice way of releasing

what's inside. >> you'll read the story? >> yeah, i'll read it. >> i appreciate your coming to me. >> you're welcome. thank you for not being disruptive for me and everything else. i just figure i'd give you piece and quiet. i figure that's what you needed. okay. i'll come back and talk to you. thank you. >> with most of the inmates that don't cause problems i'll go out of my way to spend a little more time talking to them. he was all excited about writing everything down so he could show it later on. that boosted his attitude. he's a bit happier at the moment. i don't think we'll have a problem with him kicking the door at all. coming up. >> you act like i ain't never tried. >> even when i lived with you. >> you fought every day. >> you didn't mind nobody but your mother. >> did you expect anything different? >> father and son provide a lesson for all parents.

on any given day more than 2,000 men and women are incarcerated at the louisville

metro department of corrections jail. most are working on their cases, hoping to clear their names and go free. today, however, two inmates, brian edmonds jr., and his father, brian sr., will attempt to clear long-lingering emotional wounds. edmonds jr., who could be sentenced to death if he's found guilty, asked jail officials to allow him a final visit with his father, who will soon transfer to state prison to start a 30-year sentence. the request was approved. >> it really might be the last time i get to see him for a while. >> what's up, baby? >> what's happening? hug. what's going on? what's going on with you?

>> well, let me tell you something before we start the conversation. i already told them from the get-go, i don't blame you for nothing. i chose the path i took. i chose to do what i wanted to do. but at the same time i just want to know, you know what i'm saying, if you could do anything different what could you have done? what you thought you could have done different. >> there would have been a whole lot different. i would have chose a different route so you wouldn't end up in the situation that you was in. first steps is me and your uncle. i'm tired of every time i look up you're in the hole. i'm sick of the fighting. i mean, that bothers me. i'm saying i know you're going to handle your own. but i mean, never knowing when something serious is going to happen to you. i'm saying that's frustrating. that's very frustrating. >> i mean, it's frustrating to me that you just got 30 years. you know? and then, you know, we always had a friendship, but we ain't have a father-son relationship. and it's like, you know what i'm saying, when you're locked up you talk a whole lot of sense. you don't want this, you don't want that.

but you ain't never demonstrated that. if we was both to get out today, what do you feel you could do to help me? even if you don't ever get out. you got 30 years. they offered me 30 years not too long ago. what would you do to help me to be the man you never was or you that wanted to be. let's say i'm willing to listen or learn -- >> you act like i ain't never tried, though. i'm saying -- >> explain to me. >> even when i lived with you. >> we fought almost every day. >> if i whoop you, what was you doing? you try to make it seem like i was just off the muscle fighting you. no. i'm saying you weren't minding period. you didn't mind nobody but your mother. so what am i supposed to do? >> did you expect anything different? >> no. i never expected anything different from not being there. >> i ain't never really been loved. like i remember the first christmas we had together. you remember that? >> mm-hmm. >> you started crying. >> it wasn't the first christmas but -- >> the first christmas. the first time we really spent christmas together. >> yeah.

>> i feel like i -- i ain't never talked about i was a kid, i was probably about 12, that was the first time i ever thought you really loved me. other than that i ain't never had -- i don't know what the hell love is. i rather not have shoes, clothes, all that materialistic [ bleep ] and just have my mom and my dad. that's just how i feel. i wish i would have had my mom and my dad. and i feel like i would have been all right. i would have had some morals and some principles. you know what i'm saying? that's why i'm so angry. because of stuff i never had. >> moments later edmonds jr. brings up his father's recent relationship with another woman and her young daughter. >> and you on the phone telling her you love her -- >> i wasn't even talking to her. >> you love her and her child. >> i write you every day -- hold, hold. >> i'm trying to finish. no, no. because you ain't going to go through all that. i write you every day through the work days. and every letter i write you i tell you i love you. there's not one letter you wrote me telling me you love me. not one. don't try to make it seem like i

told a little girl i love her and -- >> that's the thing. you told her, period. >> i'm saying what do a child got to do with it? >> that ain't your child. >> it don't matter. >> you weren't there for me when i was 6 and 7. >> i was there. you were out when you were 7. you called another man daddy. so i'm saying who's supposed to be getting mad? >> who was with my mama when you went to penitentiary? who was with my mama when you went to penitentiary? >> look, i only did this interview because they said you want to do it. i'm saying for real, bro, we ain't got to go through this. >> i ain't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. >> he's trying to make it seem like it's just his -- >> brian sr., he's angry. >> he's supposed to be. i mean, i get frustrated when i think about it because i already know that the majority of the situation got something to do with me not being there. it's hard knowing that he could

possibly end up with the death penalty. it's hard to even think about it. i always wanted to be there to help him. but i mean, which is sad to say, i let his mama basically run me away. and for a long time i had a grudge against her because she had another baby. so when i did get out, that's what was really stopping me from any -- you know what i'm saying. even being around him. because of that. and i should never have done it. but i felt like that was the only way for me to get even with her. and then when i got out and he was calling him daddy, it was real touching. >> did you blame me for that? >> no. i blamed your mama. i mean, i'm sorry that i was never a father figure, you know what i'm saying, and just being your friend. i wanted it so bad because like, you know what i'm saying, honestly in my heart i didn't

want you to end up here with me. i mean, you might think that i'm just saying this for the cameras. for real, [ bleep ] these cameras. i only did the interview for you. you feel me? i only did it so i can have this conversation. you know what i'm saying? this is affecting me way more than it's affected you. because i know that the majority of this is only because i wasn't there. >> that's all i wanted to hear. that little bitty piece right there. this whole conversation, that was the only piece i wanted to hear. the only piece i wanted to hear. i'm no longer mad at him. at all. i swear to god, i'm not. now that we've realized this is -- you know what i'm saying, we can get over this bridge, you know what i'm saying. some father-son stuff. if it's from jail cell to jail cell, it's still possible. you can still -- if i was to get out and you had to stay in you could still make an impression from jail. i don't know exactly how. but you know what i'm saying, ain't nothing impossible. you owe me to try. that's the only thing i'm going to say you owe me. i don't blame you for nothing

else. you owe me enough at least to put in an effort. i don't care how stubborn i am. you owe me that. and that's all i ask. >> let's wrap it up. >> yeah. >> i love you. >> i love you too. >> i don't know really what to say. i'm satisfied, though. honestly in my heart, you know what i'm saying, i ain't mad at him. ain't no hard feelings. ain't no none of it. i feel like he was sincere about it. that part of being a man he didn't know how to do. so i know he know he's wrong. and that's all that matters. i don't care if nobody else in the world knows. we really know. i'm cool with that. >> all right. [ crying ]

due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. an inmate's stress prompts an emergency response. >> he's been trying to abuse himself all day. threatening suicide. trying to swallow things. >> i'm in here because of ike and tina. that's what i named my hands. ike and tina.