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down! >> among the nation's most notorious institutions, san quentin state prison. our cameras spent months documenting life on the inside where gangs, drugs and sheer boredom make up a violent mix. this is "lockup: san quentin, extended stay." in america's prisons violence is a way of life. [ screaming ] san quentin, the oldest prison in california, has one of the longest histories of violence. >> there's fistfights going on, there's guys getting beat up pretty good. >> whether it's an inmate fresh off the street -- >> i refuse to get disrespected by anybody. >> a gang dropout in protective custody. >> this happened a couple days ago. >> or an officer trying to maintain order. >> he was going for the jugular but he just missed.

>> they've all fallen victim to violent attacks. in the three months we were at san quentin, we saw our fair share. ♪ i pray to god i don't die for the wrong people ♪ >> administrative segregation, otherwise known as ad seg, is a unit mainly reserved for the worst of the worst offenders at san quentin. >> it's a place where they need to be, they need to be separated from the general population. >> step forward. >> ad seg inmates live in single man cells, are on lockdown for 23 hours a day and are handcuffed and escorted by officers for all moves. >> representing [ bleep ] san quentin because i'm out here. >> darryl samuels is being housed in the carson section section of ad seg for an assault on an officer. >> what's up? >> don't step on my foot. >> okay. okay. >> be cool.

>> i was breaking in cars in the projects back in the days and i got caught when i was 9 years old. after that it's just been hell from then. i kept going to group homes and kept running from group homes. ended up in wiley. >> [ bleep ]. >> got a gun charge. caught on a gun charge. went to county jail, got out for that, got another gun charge, got sentenced to the penitentiary. got out now. i got violation for access to a gun. never had no positive influence. my influence was the streets. and i thought that was positive. because that's all i knew. so i'm thinking that's the right way, so i'm going to go that way. and that's what i did. >> samuels wants to turn his life around for the sake of his son. he doesn't want his boy to grow up without a father, like he did. >> that's my life right there. that's what i got to live for right now. that's the most -- that's what i think about all the time. and i'm going to straighten my

life out for him. because i ain't never had no dad. even though my dad would have been good for me because i know how he was, he fell victim to the streets. i'm not trying to be the same. i don't want him growing up like me. i got to be there for him. i'm thinking right now, i'm not doing nothing right for him. i have to do something for him. people ain't going to forget. even if i try to straighten my life up. there's a lot of people trying to straighten their life up but been living in the same environment. somebody come and kill you. people don't forget because you're doing good. it don't take away the hurt you caused people. you can die in your environment, that's what's [ bleep ] going to happen if you're out there on the street. i've got to leave. that's the only thing that's going to help me. >> samuels, along with the other ad seg inmates, is given only one hour of yard time each day, most of which is spent talking about what they all have in common, serving time. >> i'll probably be get out next -- i've got icc next week, right? >> right. but since it's an assault on a peace officer i don't know if they'll let me go back to badger or ship me out.

i don't know what's going on. >> they have me up for a transfer. i'm just a lonely dude trying to go home to his family. you feel me? so what they going to, do they going to try to ship you out too, then? >> i don't know what they do. >> we don't get no type of respect, no justice or nothing, you feel me? >> not at all. i'm not feeling this [ bleep ] at all, bro. >> that's my little homeboy, little "d." know what i'm saying? that's my [ bleep ]. i can't explain it. you feel me? it's just, you know, we have a lot in common. that's just my young dude. we both came from the same area. we got the same upbringing. we got the same traits and everything. you know, he's different from the rest, man. i'm thinking if he had the perfect opportunity, he'd excel better than a lot of others. >> while interviewing inmate scott, a fight breaks out on the basketball court. and in the time it took us to turn around and capture what happened, like most prison fights, it was already over. >> lay down.

>> how did little "d" get into a fight? >> come over to the gate. >> sergeant thompson and his investigative services unit arrives on the scene to piece together what just transpired. and although it appears that samuels is the aggressor, both he and the injured inmate will be investigated over the next few weeks and possibly brought up on battery charges. >> have we confirmed it was a weapon or not a weapon? do we know? >> last word is it was not a weapon. >> blunt. blunt trauma, left, right hook? >> all right. >> these two guys got into a fistfight right over here.

and supposedly the victim was knocked out for a few seconds. >> if charged with battery on an inmate, samuels could find himself stuck in ad seg and adding up to a year on his sentence, meaning more time away from his son. >> yes! drop it! coming up next on "lockup: extended stay," an inmate is battered inside protective custody. >> he believe he may have been the victim of a battery. >> and now his life is in jeopardy. >> i just don't feel like saying nothing, you know? >> what is this working for? >> this right here. >> and later -- a gang dropout reveals weapons secrets to an officer. >> plastic bottle, grab it, pull it, pop it, and it will shoot out of there at a velocity. lashawn's got her christmas list. she's looking for a fijit at toys "r" us.

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you've got three things to fight for. your name, your word, and respect. so they'll fight for it and kill for it. >> gang violence is endemic in san quentin. even at s.n.y., where gang dropouts are housed. >> s.n.y. is sensitive needs yard. used to be called protective custody. it's an area where inmates can be housed that have safety concerns. they're either gang dropouts. they've been identified by the inmate population as informants. sex crimes in their past, sings like that. they still have that predatory mentality. just being a protective custody type guy, sensitive needs type guy doesn't make them a good guy. there's absolutely gangs in s.n.y. there's fistfights going on. guys getting beat up pretty good. >> i have sufficient grounds to keep you in ad seg. >> gang expert and correctional lieutenant munoz is called in to examine an inmate after he was

attacked in his tier in s.n.y. most likely a gang-related attack. >> we believe you that may have been the victim of a battery. and until we find out who the assailant or assailants are, okay? you're a jeopardy to our security. >> okay. >> all right. >> we placed him in segregation for his own protection until we find out who battered him. it's got to be more than one person. because of the numerous bruises he had and the two black eyes, it just appeared to me it would have happened outside of the cell, where he would have been assaulted in a blind spot. >> lieutenant munoz must investigate the incident despite lack of cooperation from the victim, who fears being labeled a rat. >> they'll find out sooner or later, you know. it's easy to find out. just don't feel like saying nothing, you know?

>> at this point we have no knowledge as to who did it or why. you go from one gang, go to a dropout, and you form another gang. so it just doesn't seem to end. >> these people in here, they want you to do something for them. i'd rather just take care of mine, handle my business, see my family one day, you know? >> when you come to prison, it's still our obligation to protect you no matter what. the department's view about gangs is to disassemble them, get those individuals to drop out, tell on each other. because we gain better control of our population. it's an ongoing process that never stops. >> let's go, gentlemen. come on. >> i'm in protective custody because i'm a dropout. dropping out means telling. it means you gave up everything you had to give up to secure a place over here.

if you try to fake a debrief, they'll know about it. they'll just put you at the back of the list and make you wait all over again. that's probably another five to six to seven years because people are dropping like flies. there's a lot of people just like me. we're involved in drug trafficking, we're involved in assaults, involved with any type of violence you can possibly think of in prison. i was that bad-ass, too. and i wanted to be. so my hand was raised for anything. anything meaning any type of business that needed to be taken care of, my hand was up for it. my tattoos, i have a lot of them. i have something that actually are hits inside of prison. lightning bolts are for hits on the inside of the left arm. like these right here are a hit on like a black or a mexican. >> how did you get those? >> i stand somebody in calopetro.

>> i have a swastika on my stomach that i did another hit for. i tried to cover it up, actually, after i dropped out. that was for somebody at high desert. i stabbed a crip in high desert. with me having those tattoos if you were somebody that's coming toward me in prison you have to respect that. that also sends a message you that probably don't want to mess with that individual because you're subject to get whacked too. >> alpine section williams to alpine 1 and kirkpatrick to alpine 24. >> since dropping out of his gang in '99, speedy has been charged with two separate counts of in-cell violence, stabbing one of his cellmates numerous times and cutting another one's throat. >> 14 months. the whole thing is mine? wow. that's a decent issue. >> that's the biggest one i've had since i've been here. >> speedy is meeting with counselor gray to discuss a possible transfer and his behavior. the sessions are standard procedure for all protective custody inmates.

>> you know you have life. so you have a life sentence now. you have 234 points. >> it went down. >> so then just the life of crime start escalating up. still level four. and you have your mandatory score of 19 that still will stick for your life sentence. using your disciplinary while you're in here, down on your program period, will be good because you don't meet any other, you know, disciplinary problems. because you know that just adds up. >> what was my last write-up? do you have it in here? my 115? >> it was in 2002. have you done anything recently? >> no. how about before that? >> you have a string of them. i don't think we should go through all of that. >> there's a lot, though? >> yeah. >> okay, all right. thank you.

>> in the past five years speedy has refrained from any acts of violence and changed his outlook on life in prison. >> for debriefing, going through that whole process, is my reward is i i'm able to come back out into what we would call society, our society here. this is great for me. this is the only thing i've got coming. i had to go through a whole hell of a lot to get here. >> 0-0. >> when i met him, i just knew he was racist, right? so i kind of like was going to give him 50 feet, right? but then the type of person he was, whatever had him like that, angered, right now, you know, he grown a lot. and speedy not like that no more, you know what i mean? he got life. so he basically got to fight for his to get back. next on "lockup: extended stay," officer deed investigates the fight on the basketball court. >> i want to tell you that it was self-defense. >> and speedy shows how plastic coffee lids can have more than

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sfoet ♪ ♪ in ad seg, darrell samuels and michael edwards are being held for the fistfight they had on the basketball court. >> drop it! >> officer deed is the investigator who will talk with the inmates and determine who started the fight. >> we have certain behavior patterns that inmates must abide by according to the title 15, which is given by the director. and when they violate this, a written violation report 115, and then once it's written the inmate is logged, the inmate is served and heard by the hearing lieutenant. >> i'm serving inmate edwards a 115 and inmate samuels a 115.

they had a fistfight on the yard, friday the 30th of march. they've both been charged with battery on an inmate because one inmate received serious injuries. it's a serious 115. a-1 offense. it's a real serious 115. inmate could lose up to a year of credit earned. >> where's jamie at? >> when i go up there, i just talk to an individual like i would talk to you right now. we're going to serve this man his paperwork and see what happens. >> you want it right now? officer deed, this is officer carson's section. i have a 115 for you for the fight on the yard you had the other day. charged with battery on an inmate with serious injuries. it's a referral offense. if you're found guilty of that, it carries a maximum forfeiture of 360 days.

being you're in lockup, you're in ad seg, you have the right to have an investigative employee. if you have anybody you want to investigate it -- >> everybody on the yard they seen what happened. >> their names. >> i don't know their names. if you can find out. i don't know their last names. they would tell you that it was self-defense. >> what i'm going to do, i'm going to go down and get the yard and see who was out there that day, right? and ask them the questions you wanted me to ask them. was it self-defense? did he swing on you first? that's what you want me to ask them? >> you say was it self-defense they'll say yeah, it was self-defense. he swung on me first. >> he swung on you first? >> the whole yard seen it. >> i will give you a copy of the report once it's typed. all right? >> all right. >> see you in a little bit. what i'm going to do right now, i have to get the yard list from the officer so i know who to question, and i'll go ask these individuals per inmate samuels, did inmate edwards swing on him first. >> friday was -- they're right here, willie.

>> just give me the house and the name. >> officer alejos locates witness names in the yard log. there are five inmates officer deed must question. >> thank you. >> all right, willie. >> due process. a man, he has that right. he has witnesses to be called right here. he has the right to tell his side of the story and present witnesses like we would do in court. same thing. going up to the hospital. second floor. >> before officer deed meets with samuels' witnesses, he visits edwards who's still recovering from the incident in the infirmary. >> edwards, i'm officer deed from carson hospital. i have a 115 here for you for the fight you had on the yard the other day. it charges you with battery on an inmate. okay, this is a division "a" offense, carries a maximum time

of 360-day forfeiture of your credit. >> it says here that i harmed somebody. who did i harm? >> the individual you were fighting with, supposedly fighting with. >> is he in the infirmary? >> no, he's not. >> oh, i see. >> do you want to have an investigative employee, anybody investigating? you want to make any statements? >> no. >> no? >> just the employee that was working up there that day. >> he can be at the hearing, then. >> see what he saw. >> do you have any questions? >> that's it. >> all right. >> thank you. >> hey, jamie. what happened was i went on to seen edwards, right? >> he's up at the hospital. >> at the hospital, yeah. doesn't look too good. worse for wear. he has facial lacerations. the only person he wanted at the hearing was reporting officer gunman out there the only person he wants there. he doesn't want nobody investigated.

that's it on that. however, samuels wants somebody investigated. i'm going to go up there, get these guys out on the tier, right? >> 227. >> 227? >> oh, yeah. >> samuels is up there being charged with battery on an inmate, right? and he wanted me to ask you what did you see? >> i didn't see nothing. i was on -- i was over there playing cards. all i seen, when i looked to the side all i heard is officer get down and dude was already on the ground. >> sow didn't see anything at all? >> i didn't see nothing at all. >> all right. remember that fight on the yard last friday? >> what about it? >> inmate samuels upstairs has been charged with battery on an inmate. he said you was on the yard and he wanted me to ask you, what did you see? >> i seen a dude hit him. why? >> what dude hit him? >> whatever dude. >> the other one, edwards? >> yeah. the one on the ground. >> the one that got knocked down? >> yeah.

>> okay. mr. powers. come on, dog, let me talk to you for a minute. so he the one that was aggressive? he was aggressive? >> yeah. >> that's it, dog, thank you. all right, jamie. i went upstairs, investigated five guys up there now. >> talked to 27? >> yeah, talked to 27. said he didn't see anything at all. however, i've got about three individuals that said edwards swung on samuels first. >> that's right here, too, edwards was the aggressor. >> the aggressor. >> that's the part of it. samuels is probably the one charged with grave bodily injury because of the injury that edwards suffered. he got knocked out. >> although the evidence leads to self-defense, samuels could still receive an additional year on his sentence if found guilty. >> that's not the first time edwards had been aggressive out there on the yard. a couple of times they tried to stop him from fighting. but this time he wouldn't listen. >> he thought he was the big, tough guy out there. >> yeah. >> he ran into a buzzsaw.

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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ -car. step on out. kramer. rodriguez. ♪ >> you hear those whistles and hear the officers yelling, you know it's not a false alarm. >> call him in, will you? code four. fistfight. second tier landing. >> an alarm sounds in the

sensitive needs unit after yet another fistfight breaks out on the tier. >> swing your feet around. swing your feet around. >> i heard a whistle and responded to the second tier landing south block. found the inmate laying face down. officer said he had just been in a fistfight. >> i knew i had to get out of the way. >> see you guys. >> i then proceeded to take him down to get medical for an injury and now being placed in a holding cell in donner section, probably going to be one of our newest arrivals in administrative segregation. >> you got an escort coming in! >> what is becoming the protocol for these violent incidents in s.n.y., both the attacker and victim are moved to ad seg. >> got into an altercation with

another inmate coming back from chow hall. sucker punched me in the back of the head on the way back. on the stairway. there's not supposed to be any gangs in the prison, in the p.c. so. something that they've overlooked, i guess. >> after 21 days you'll be moved next door to carson section. that's where you'll spend the remainder of your time in administrative segregation. you'll have icc next [ bleep ]. and i'll get you an orientation packet with all the rules and regulations of this unit. >> the segregated population is anything but welcoming to an inmate they assume has snitched to gain protection. >> your palms over. >> never tell! >> that's the golden rule in the state penitentiary. don't ask me. don't tell them. be a man and respect yourself. >> they're going to feed him to the wolves. they're going to feed him to the wolves.

he's a lamb chop. [ bleep ]. >> they're probably getting interviewed. your brother's going on tomorrow. >> without the nazi low rider code of honor to adhere to, speedy can work with i.s.u. even as a dropout, he is blatantly breaking gang ranks by helping officers gather intelligence, working directly with officer morales, who he has known for four years. >> hi, speedy. >> i think of myself as giving something back. if it's saving somebody from getting hurt, then that's cool. that's all right. >> i brought you in today because i want to actually get a little bit more insight on gangs, weapons, how they're made. i know every step we try to take, you're always one up. >> exactly. we've got 24 hours to stay ahead of you. you only come here for eight hours. so you've got to step up your game to keep up with us. >> what is this working for?

>> this right here is a plastic bottle, a pepsi bottle or something that you buy off the canteen. take a rubber glove that's accessible all over the place, put it on the end of the water bottle with a rubber band, tighten it down, and then take a projectile, whatever, a pill or piece of metal, anything hard, put it inside that, grab it, pull it, pop it, and it will shoot out of there at a velocity. >> part of speedy's intel involves showing officers how easily weapons can be made. in this case the plastic lids of coffee cups. once melted by the heat of an ignited roll of toilet paper will transform into a potentially lethal shank. >> i'm hardening this plastic

right here. see how it's folding down like this? what i'm doing, i'm trying to get a little wad of it to where i could -- i have a little something to work with. know what i mean? what i'm doing right now is i'm molding. this is like playing with clay. only it's plastic. i'm making a weapon right now. i'm melting this plastic down into a shape. and what i'm doing is -- is i've got to get it all to this way, like here. and then once i get it like this, i'll show you. >> i think it just amazes me how fast it can be made and sometimes who's it used for. sometimes for us, sometimes for another inmate. >> you got to have air go into the bottom of this thing or else it will start smoking real bad. then temper it here. let it get in the cold water because then it hardens it, makes it stronger. look-it.

that is what you're trying to come out with. and what we do here is you can either put a tip on it right here, sharpen it down on the concrete to where you'd have a piece that -- and it's actually -- [ knocking it against toilet ] >> in a matter of minutes. this wouldn't even be detected in a metal detector at all. >> no. >> that could get to the yard real quick. real quick. use it, throw it, flush it, you're done and over with. >> you could go into somebody's heart, pop a jugular vein, hit, take an eyeball out. >> and then you clear the evidence. >> clear the evidence and your work station's clean. >> no detection. >> i'm going to wash my hands. next on "lockup: extended stay," whether you're an inmate doing your time -- >> i did everything i could to avoid the situation. >> -- or a veteran correctional officer. >> he was going for the jugular but he just missed. >> your life is constantly at risk in san quentin.

tensions run high a lot in prison. there are confined quarters and they only have a limited amount of exercise. >> they're so used to it, you just, you know, fight or flight. >> when he stood up, he knew what he was doing. and he got hurt, though. >> one of the guys got a little out of hand and the other one decided he was going to check him and they had the fight. >> with violence so ingrained in

prison politics, not even the promise of being released can prevent an altercation. >> i was supposed to parole on monday. i did everything i could to avoid the situation. i did everything i could. when people say certain words in prison -- punk, bitch, lame, things like that -- it's an automatic fight word. it's hard to explain to somebody that's not in the prison system. because most people are like, i don't care, one day and i'm walking away, no matter what happens. but it's not that easy all the time. i wish it was. >> i had to do what i had to do. you know, sometimes it goes like that. >> both inmates involved in the fight are brought in front of the icc to discuss the incident. >> this was not necessarily a real simple case of a fight in prison. essentially, it was a black inmate and a white inmate that got into a fistfight in the dining room. and 99.9% of the time in a

prison setting that's a keg of dynamite. >> so mackey was placed in administrative segregation on march 11th. he's being charged with a mutual combat with an inmate liselof. as of current he has a pending 115. however, the 115 states he's actually being charged with battery on an inmate. >> what precipitated this? >> he stood up on me. >> so you just reacted to what you felt was a threat? >> yeah. >> okay. we're going to put you a walk-alone right now until we get you through this 115 because we're not sure exactly what's going on with you and we're not going to go into the charges here. do you have any other questions about that? okay, man, take care. >> i'm not believing too much that the guy just stood up and he felt threatened. >> right. >> correct. >> i'm not interested in hearing the 115. what kicked that off?

>> disrespect. >> okay. just between you two? >> yeah. >> okay. we're going to keep you in ad seg right now pending adjudication of that 115. okay? i'm going to put you on walk-alone yard while you're over there. okay? you understand all that? >> yes. >> okay. take care. >> thanks. >> with the potential of a lengthened sentence, he realizes his actions carry even greater consequences. >> my son's 3 years old. his name's damian. if i could do anything for him right now, it would be be with him. i'd want to be with him. you know? for him to know that his dad loves him and is there. and he is loved. he's got his mom.

but nobody takes the place of a dad. my decisions affect him. he doesn't deserve for his dad to be here right now. stupid fight affects a 3-year-old, and that was my choice. and that's what makes me mad. >> in the time that officer alejos has been a correctional officer at san quentin, he has witnessed his fair share of prison violence and been on the receiving end of it. >> i haven't been stabbed. i've been sliced. back in columbus day of 1988, about 9:40 in the morning, i was

working the adjustment center, and running showers on the first floor right there, and took the inmate to the shower, uncuffed him, turned my back and he was going for the jugular but he just missed. i got taken to the hospital here. they took me out and stuff like that. i think it was 35 stitches and two plastic surgeries, so i was furious. i wanted to get back at inmates. i wanted to kill inmates. i wanted to get them back. but i didn't. they're not worth doing time over. they're not worth losing your job over. it's not worth it. >> even though alejos is a veteran officer, every day at san quentin is unpredictable. his survival tactic has been never to show fear. >> it's like the law of the jungle, only the strong survive here. if they see you're afraid, they're going to eat you alive. you never, never let your fear show. never. you have convicted felons here for murder and for rape.

we got level fours here that you don't know, in a split second a level two could be a level four and they could stab you. they could stab someone in front of you. you respond to help them and guess what, you get stabbed too. >> in such a chaotic environment the camaraderie among officers is vital. they rely on each other for backup as they risk their lives every day. >> i love this place. it may sound sick but you know, this is my job. this is a career, i guess it chose me. you know. you build some great friendships with the officers here. >> ten pounds of cocaine wasn't mine. it was yours. you had it keistered, remember? you have an environment where your life depends on someone else. and someone else's life depends on yours. it kind of makes you a lot closer.

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they're all dangerous. they are all very dangerous up here. that's why they've been placed in administrative segregation. they've assaulted inmates. they've assaulted staff. >> there are more than 900

correctional officers at san quentin state prison, nearly 200 of whom are women. officer mannix is one of them. >> hi, miss mannix. >> hey. >> i'll see what i can do and let them know that you're still here. >> okay. >> okay? all right. >> all right. >> being a correctional officer, i'm at work and that's full time when i'm there. but when i'm home, i'm a full-time mom. >> here, john, you want to help out? >> it's been 12, 13 years. and she's had a couple of minor incidents, but for the most part, you know, it's a job. >> i thought only guys were prison guards for the longest time. then my mom said, yep, i'm working at san quentin. i'm like, really? i thought that was only a guy thing. >> i got to go upstairs and change. >> okay. >> i'm proud of her. that's basically it. >> she does good at whatever she does. >> yeah. >> i respect what she does

because it takes a strong woman to do that. >> not everyone gets it. i think honestly, a lot of people don't want to know about prison. you know. it's just kind of part of society that people just don't want to know about. >> all right, babe, i'm going to go. >> okay. >> give me a kiss. love you. see you later. all right? all right, bye. >> there's a bit of fear but, you know, you kind of deal with it. you know, her being a woman, other things come into your mind. so, scared, yeah, some days. >> it's supposed to rain next week. get the sunshine while you can. >> you expect monsters when you come into prison. and they're not. they look like your neighbor and a lot of them are very young. all these guys have parents. nobody has a kid thinking, someday you're going to go to

prison. >> every inmate is like a snowflake, everyone's unique and different. that's the way i look at them. and you've got to approach sxhanld each one differently. you can't approach the same one and do the same thing with each one. sometimes you have to go up and yell at them like they're a little kid. >> you got to say you're sorry to people, okay? you didn't mean to do that. it wasn't you, it was your other twin. all right? >> sure. >> okay. turn around. >> and sometimes you just talk to them like man to man. >> do me a favor, hang out here, don't make no noise, don't be kicking. i'm going to make a phone call right now. they know it's about you. >> every approach don't work. you've got to use different approaches for every inmate. >> it's my job, i'm here to protect and serve. inmate has a problem, our job is to -- we're trained to, you know, defuse the situation. that's what we're trained to do. >> the warden has made a special trip to the carson unit today to recognize officer alejos for

his skillful handling of challenging inmates. >> when i came back to san quentin, i remembered from my previous life before i retired there was something called superior accomplishment award, okay? and basically, what that is is you get to give somebody a check, you give them money when they stand out. the first one of these that i'm going to give out is to somebody here. of course, it's jamie alejos. >> yay! [ applause ] >> give that to you. >> thank you, warden. thank you very much. >> no, thank you. >> oh, you're welcome. >> i mean, i've known this guy for over 25 years. and he's the same now as he was then. a little grayer, a little grayer. i wanted him to be the first one to get this, to recognize all of his years of dedicated service. but also because he takes his job as seriously as you take yours.

he realizes, as you do, that we're responsible for the health and welfare of these guys. >> you're as strong as your weakest link, and together in here as a unit we all work together as one, which makes a strong unit. i couldn't do this without these guys right here, especially lieutenant fuller and sergeant lee. [ applause ] >> he's still not getting more hours. >> the fight investigation in ad seg found both samuels and edwards guilty of mutual combat. samuels has moved to the reception center and is awaiting transfer to another penitentiary in the coming weeks. there, he will serve out the six months remaining on his sentence. >> the inmates were on the yard, they were playing basketball. edwards was getting kind of rough with samuels. right? he didn't like the way they were

playing. didn't like what was happening to him. sew just swung on him and tried to hit him. from there the fight ensued. he was looking at getting 360 days. but since it got reduced down to a lesser offense, mutual combat, he received 61 days, which he was satisfied with. >> after working out in the yard, inmate samuels meets with counselor woodford to review his case and plans for the future. >> go on in. >> there was a concern about giving you that break because you were right there on the wall. >> yeah, i know. >> it could have gone either way. >> i know. >> and the only reason you got that break is because the lieutenant said, i believe this kid can turn it around. don't disappointment me. you change your own destiny. >> yeah. >> so you've got to stay out of trouble, okay? >> i'm trying to do my time. i'm not starting no trouble. i'm trying to learn how to walk

away from it. that's going to be hard. things happen. i can't -- i'm around a bunch of men and we've all got our own issues and stuff happens. >> samuels' behavior inside prison determines the length of his stay. but with little education and no plans, it's going to be a tough road ahead. >> i ain't been in school since the fifth grade. >> you've been locked up since the fifth grade. >> in and out of jail. >> youth authority. >> youth authority. >> right into the adult system. >> adult system. >> okay. so what kind of job are you going do with a fifth-grade education? >> i mean, to be honest with you, i don't even know. whatever i -- whoever hire me, if i've got to get a job, or i'll keep getting violated. >> based on your history and based on where you're at and your recent behavior, you're not in a position where you're going to succeed. you need a plan and you need to be a realist. you need to change some things. and we've talked about this. >> yeah. >> if you don't change it, i'll see you soon. and that's just the reality of breaking that cycle. it's a vicious cycle.