father. but you the closest father figure i have had in a long type. you don't know how much you mean to me. you have helped me by giving me my life back. this father's day card is nowhere close to what i owe you for giving me back my life and self-esteem. happy father's day. love sean p. >> i just really thank god for coming to jail, honestly. if it's -- it's bad to say that. but jail saved my life. due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised.

i guess the worst part about gangs is para now wra. it is like a virus. it invades former gang members attempt to leave deadly rivalries behind. but for some, the past is anything but resolved. >> i don't think no one could ever take this pain away. >> the men in another housing unit deal with a completely different set of issues. >> you have your masculines that are more masculine looking. >> are you masculine or fem? >> i'm gay, i'm gay. >> then you have your fems. they act like girls. >> fems to the fem side and masculine to the masculine. we don't let them intertwine. you are asking for problems. >> at a surprise contraband raid turns one housing unit upside down.

>> inmates are very crafty and there are thousands of places where narcotics can be hidden within the units. >> anyone accused of a crime in san antonio will most likely pass through the bexar county jail. some will make bond and leave. on any given day, about 3500 men and women are housed here awaiting trial, resolutions of their cases. deciding in which of the jails 84 housing units to place each inmate is a complex process known as classification. >> every inmate that comes into

our facility is interviewed by a classification officers. our class officers are trained to try to figure out where do we house this person where we have the least amount of problems. so they are looking for things like, is he mentally ill? does he have any medical issues? >> any problem with seizures. >> no, ma'am. >> gang related? >> no, ma'am. >> homosexual? >> no, ma'am. >> of all these factors, the most critical to reducing violence is to determine if an inmate is a gang member. >> if they confirm him as a gang member, the next question is, is he a threat? >> where did you get picked up? >> okay. >> what year? >> two years ago. >> the most common way to identify a gang member is through self-admission. >> simply by asking him. >> why you hang around with these guys? >> the only one that show me love. >> the violence comes in when rival gang members meet up with each other. we go out of our way to keep

them separated. unfortunately, we don't catch all of them. we put them in the wrong place and that's typically when the fights erupt. >> this was the scene following a riot in which inmates from the mexican mafia fought with members of their archrivals. >> next person to talk, will be tased. >> sometimes they slip through our fingers. you know, gangs are groups of opportunity. they're going to group together. once they see their numbers are large enough they become very territorial. from there it tend to develop into a dangerous situation. >> while rival gangs can pose a threat to each other. they often reserve their harshest punishment for members who drop out and enter the jail's protective custody program. >> almost all gangs believe there is one way in and one way out of their gang. that is through violence. we tell any ex-member of any

major prison gang, your life is in danger. there is somebody out to get you. it is going to happen. that's the way it goes. those are the rules. you are in it for life. or you are dead. >> because of threats he faces for leaving the mexican mafia, victor asked that we only use his first name. he is housed in a unit made up entirely of inmates who have chosen to leave their gangs. >> the worst part of gangs is paranoia. it's like a virus. it invade. sometimes people hear things that weren't said. sometimes people see things that didn't happen. as an end result, a lot of innocent people have died. i just tired of all the lies, you know, all of the backstabbing, all of the politics, paranoia. i just got tired of it. >> victor joined the mexican mafia while serving a prior 23-year prison sentence for kidnapping and aggravated assault.

a recent parole violation has landed him back in jail. he has adopted a fatherly role with some of the younger ex-gang members in the unit. >> you want to earn your keep but you want to do it the right way, the legal way. >> i'm too cold, i can't be doing this. i can't be going to prison at this age. >> among those victor counsels is johnny robles, charged with attempted capital murder and theft. he pled not guilty and is awaiting trial. >> you get to a point where you have to make a decision, is this the type of life that i want? >> i have to first of all be willing to change my life, you know what i mean? >> robles joined the gang during a prior stay at another texas jail. >> i didn't like the idea of them trying to run my life. i feel like a puppet. i told them i wanted to get out of the gang. i was coming back from eating dinner. before i knew it, i had two

guys. one hit me on one side. the other one hit me on the other side. they went to punch me, hitting me, kicking me. i woke up the next day and i was in the hospital. and not knowing what else they did to me, not knowing what else they did to me, i'm glad that i finally got out. and not telling them tell me who i can and who i can't talk to. >> in jesus name, amen. >> amen. >> while the ex-gang unit might seem like an island of tranquility, that is not always the case. that is not always the case. inmate tim gaffney has been in the unit for 2 1/2 years and still doesn't take any chances. >> i don't ever close my eyes in the shower. that is just the golden rule. when you shower, you leave your eyes open and keep your back towards the wall. you can see who comes and goes. because bad things happen in the shower.

>> gaffney who has pled not guilty to capital murder and is awaiting trial, a former member of the white supremacist gang, of the white supremacist gang, the arian brotherhood. >> i climbed the ranks pretty quickly. you don't ever know who wants to kill you for your position. i have done a lot of things. and but when i was young, i thought that was the norm. i got wrapped up in prostitution, drug ring, guns, the fast money, and before i knew it my life was just a down hill spiral. one thing led to another. next thing i know i am on drugs. >> gaffney says he was drawn to the arian brotherhood because they shared a foundation. >> i grew up with the hate, hate in my home, of black people, black people, black people. that's all i knew.

and seeing that growing up, i thought, hey, man's what we are supposed to be like. well instead of turning to the kkks, i turned to the aryan brotherhood. i look at it like if you are going to do something with a hood over your face, no sense in doing that, you snow stand up for what you believe in. >> coming up -- >> it is one of our interview questions when they first come in. we will ask them are you a currently a homosexual? >> life inside another one of bexar county's specialized housing units.

>> san antonio's bexar county jail houses 3,500 men and women. there are separate housing units for active and ex-gang members. but that is just the start.

the jail also attempts to identify and segregate gay inmates in their own housing units. >> it is one of our interview questions when they first come in, we ask them are you currently a homosexual. if they say yes, we have to give them the option to house in the homosexual unit for safety and security. if they feel they cannot house in the regular un the it, they have the right to go to the homosexual unit. >> within the homosexual unit, inmates are classified as either masculine or feminine. >> are you masculine or are you fem? >> i'm gay. i'm gay. >> okay. not me, honey, i am fem. >> you have your masculines that are more manley-looking straight acting, straight looking. >> what's really going on? >> then you have your fems that are, you know, some of them take hormones so they act like girls.

>> they live their life as women in the world. transsexuals, drag queens. they're walking around with bras, thongs, things in their hair, being real dramatic, loud. 80% of the fights are the fems. shut the [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. that's [ bleep ]. that's [ bleep ]. >> though eloy orosco is housed with the masculine group he was classified as a feminine at an earlier stay at bexar county. >> this time around i butched a little, and said i was masculine. they put me in the masculine group. i don't want to be with drama queens and girls. i'm trying to be with the mass masculine group, with the boys.

>> starting at age 16, orosco has been in and out of the bexar county jail. he was recently convicted for burglary and is back now after violating parole. orosco believes his experience in jail has the made him a leader in his unit. >> a lot of people look up to me and come to me for advice. they know i am in and out of the system. in some cases, emotions get lost. as far as in the system. maybe you ought to try to go back to the library and get another motion. and do that again. >> nothing goes down without me knowing. if there is an altercation. they will come and talk to me about it. hey, this person did this. they will see my reaction to it. >> while the feminine and masculine inmates are sometimes housed in the same unit, they're not allowed out of their cells at the same time in order to prevent sexual activity. >> if they put us altogether. you are going to have guys having sex with fems. >> officers acknowledge there are more attempts at sexual activity in this unit than others but say they usually stop it before it occurs. >> we keep a pretty good eye on that kind of stuff.

the officers are required to do rounds and checks and specifically in those units, those officers know the games that they try to play. we've had some incidents in the showers and stuff like that. but those are dealt with and charged with it. we try to keep the feminines to the fem side and masculine to the masculine. we don't let them intertwine. because you are asking for problems. >> in most other housing units. inmates are given anywhere from six to eight hours daily to spend in the day room or recreation areas. since the homosexual unit only allows the feminine or masculine groups out at once, they spend half as much time outside their cells as the other inmates. an unhappy circumstance for most of them. >> i want to start out with a simple braided necklace if you will. >> joey draws on his creativity to deal with monotony of long hours in a small cell.

he makes fashion accessories he sells for commissary snack. >> so you take your three, three strings, you tie one end of it. just peel off a piece of paint. and the long strip. one of the strings is covered with that paint. i sit down and put it in between my toes. you can make necklaces. you can make belts. you can make little rings. some of the girls really like it when, when i say girls, i don't mean actually girls, but they prefer to be called girls. which boggles my mind. but to each their own, i suppose. >> rhodes, who is awaiting extradition to illinois on a bribery charge to which he plans to plead not guilty is grouped with masculine inmates. >> i am a man that wants to be with another man. i don't want a girl. if i wanted a girl, i would be straight. but i am also, i won't date a guy that is taller than me.

i won't date a guy that is bigger than me. i am more of the masculine man. >> rhodes has recently begun teaching his inmate the finer points of chess, a creative challenge since they don't have a chess set in their cell. >> we need to make some more squares. i ripped them up. now, if you look, at the scoreboard. mine is joey. his is kyle. 4-1. one cellmate. beauchamp pled not guilty to shoplifting and violating his parole. he represents the third kind of inmate housed in this unit. >> he is actually a straight guy. he is straight. he is not gay at all. >> during his interview process for his housing he said he was homosexual. he was housed in the homosexual unit, upon his request.

every inmate, signs a form, requesting homosexual unit. under their own free will. >> some straight men look to the homosexual unit as a safe harbor compared to the predatory environment in other units. >> i had one or two other gay men tell me go to the gay pod. you will be taken care of. i have had other guys in there write me, like show me, show me your penis and all this stuff like that. i am like, okay, whoa, back up. i'm not like that. little do they know that i am straight. bexar county don't really care. >> beauchamp says most inmates have been respectful of his sexuality. >> they are very flamboyant, come up to me and give me a message or something like that. he wouldn't go too far. he knew i was straight. >> a lot of people were saying there was something going on between me and him. i could have messed around with him if i wanted to.

of course, you get a straight guy walking in the door, everybody is saying, well nobody has had him. i want him. i want to be the first. >> but these days, eloy orosco has bigger concerns than jail house relationships. he recently violated his parole after testing positive for drugs sister-in-law with violence. >> i told her i was going to beat her up. i become a little bit violent speaking once pills and drugs and alcohol take place. i think i am superman. she called the police and said that i was going to hurt her and wouldn't stop until i got her. so they got me for a terroristic threat. in a few days, i will have a hearing where they decide whether they send me back to prison or reinstate me during parole. >> orosco is entitled to make the case in the hearing. but his sister in law is invited to testify. >> if my sister-in-law shows up, i am guilty. i am a repeat offender and

incarcerated so many times. my word is really not -- not trustworthy. with my sister in law, you never know. she is unpredictable. so with my luck she will show. and i will go become to prison. i guess i leave it in god's hand and see what happens. >> coming up -- >> was anyone -- >> eloy orosco finds out if his sister in law will testify against him. but first -- >> it was supposed to be a temporary thing. i didn't know that was supposed to be a permanent thing. >> a young man joins a dangerous gang and now faces the possibility of life in prison. so delightful ♪ nothing melts away the cold like a hot, delicious bowl of chicken noodle soup from campbell's. ♪ let it snow, let it snow

with an ever-increasing number of dangerous gang members joining their inmate population, officials at san antonio's bexar county jail make every effort to not house rivals in the same unit. but in one section of the jail, old enemies have made peace. >> i just have to think positive and hope everything goes well. >> johnny, a former member of a

gang has found a sympathetic friend in victor, a former member of the rival mexican mafia gang. both men have dropped out of the gangs and are housed in the ex-members unit. >> robles, charged with attempted capital murder has been devastated by the recent death of his 3-year-old daughter. >> i ended up losing my daughter in a car accident. i loved her very much. she was so beautiful. she was always so beautiful. i don't think nothing or no one can ever take the pain away. i try to do other things so my mind won't think about it. it's hard. you ain't got no control over yourself. >> it doesn't matter how much you try to push it out of your mind. it is always there. when you hold your feelings in, sometimes it is even worse.

because you implode, you know. people trust me, they all come to me for advice. i just try off to help them, you know. it doesn't matter, if they're ex-mexican mafia members. i help all of them the same way. >> now, i talk about her. it just hurts me. you know. >> it hurts you. it is good to talk about it though. you let your, your feelings, your emotions out. it is better, you know, than to leave them inside you where they will hurt you more. >> when i see them, i see a reflection of myself. eventually they will be me in years to come. at least i know that i gave them some advice that nobody gave me when i went to prison. >> maybe with this tragedy in the future, you can make better decisions, you know, regarding your children, or what have you.

you get to a point where you have got to make a decision, is this the type of life i want. or do i want to stay out there and do something for my family, you snow. >> for some it can be too late for meaningful change. but the jail has seen a trend toward younger inmates who request refuge in the ex-gang unit. steven is a new arrival. he joined a branch of the mexican mafia on the streets at age 17. >> i have actually never been in trouble before. never had a ticket. i never harmed people at all. i have never even been in a fight before. >> they came out with the skyward sword. i played it since the beginning. >> vogt says he comes from a good home but was talked into joining the mexican mafia by a friend. way to earn money by selling marijuana. >> easy money. i can make $500 in a day. >> vogt says his involvement in the gang led to his current charge of capital murder.

he pled not guilty and says he was only supposed to be the lookout for a gang ordered robbery that went wrong. >> it was a stabbing. my co-defendant was the one who had the knife. so it was something that he was only supposed to scare him with. but he ended up using it violently against him. >> you got my letters? i just miss you, mom. >> my mom never knew anything. and to this day i feel terrible for that. >> i don't know. just been depressed lately. and all that. >> i did something. it made my mom feel so terrible. she visits. she writes me. she makes me feel loved. she makes me feel loved. that's what i love her about. >> my lawyer filed a new motion for reconsideration. >> if vogt is found guilty of capital murder, his sentence is automatic. life in prison without parole. the fate already handed down to his co-defendant in the case. vote clings to the hope that his lawyer can have the charge reduced. >> going with the mexican mafia

was only supposed to be a temporary thing. i didn't know that it was supposed to be like a permanent thing. >> coming up -- >> facing the back wall. >> staff conducts a surprise contraband. >> and. >> you are not allowed to induce others to commit or participate in the activity. do you understand these? >> kyle beauchamp says good-bye to the homosexual unit.

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for some inmates at san antonio's bexar county jail, one day can roll into the next with very little change. but today in one of the low security dormitory units, the monotony will be broken. the special emergency response team floods into the door and orders all inmates to their bunks. >> on your stomachs facing the back wall. no talking. hands behind your back. bunks 41 to 40. get up and go out to the brickyard. single file. >> we search for contraband. drugs. weapons. anything that has been altered from its original form. anything that they're not supposed to have in their possession. >> the inmates are directed to sit down in the dorm's enclosed

rec yard. the search team will hold them there while other officers conduct a thorough search for contraband. first a drug detection dog is brought tune sniff out narcotics. >> inmates are very crafty. there are thousands of places where narcotics can be hidden within the units. the canine has found drugs in peanut butter, hidden in mattresses. the incompetent mates are here 24 hours a day. they have plenty of time and opportunity to think of where to hide stuff. >> this time, the dog doesn't discover any drugs among the inmates' possessions. but she does find a pack of imitation narcotics put there by her handler. >> canines are like small kids. they need positive reinforcement. i will plant a synthetic narcotic, she gets her reward. >> officers begin their search of the bunks, every item they find is meticulously searched. illegal substances or weapons can result in inmates getting time in segregation or even new criminal charges.

but anything altered from its original purpose is also considered contraband. and will be disposed of. even this inmate art created from food wrappers is considered contraband. >> they get very creative. these are all out of bags of chips. >> once the search is over, the inmates are ordered to lie down on their bunks for further instructions. >> if you had any contraband, it is in the crash. everything else, check with your bunky. check up here in the front if you have anything missing. do you understand? >> yes, ma'am. >> well i have been here since april. i have been down to the shakedown every month. and mess up everything. but, a choice you got to make when you go in jail. >> there is a shake-up of another sort in the homosexual unit. the inmates are on the move. >> we move inmates out of these units often so that we can do unit repairs. they will be relocated to another unit while that is being

done. >> put your stuff behind your back and put your hands on the wall. >> the inmates carry their possessions inside sheets. before they're allowed off to enter the new unit, officers conduct a shakedown for contraband. >> the more contraband i find. the more i'm going to throw out. >> finally the inmates are taken to a unit almost identical to the one they left. but one of them has decided his time in the unit is up. >> hey, you, just stand there for me. kyle beauchamp says he is straight but requested to be housed with homosexuals when he was first booked into the jail. older inmates told him with his green hair it would be safer than general population. >> a lot of times some of the convicts will mess with the young ones. they will see how naive they are. tell them stuff like when you talk to the officer make sure you tell them you want this, this, this. messing with them. and they do it. then they realize they got

played. >> all right, you called me earlier about your request to go to general population. he addressed to me that he didn't understand what the homosexual unit was. didn't know what he was signing up for. that he very adamantly didn't want to beep in there. >> still when an inmate requests a transfer out of the homosexual unit, the jail requires he understand what is expected. >> i am going to have you sign your signature here. same thing, i am requesting this of my own free will. you are not allowed to advertise any homosexual tendencies nor induce others to commit or participate in these activities. >> do you understand these? >> yes, ma'am. >> he requested to move to a trustee pod, a housing unit for inmate workers. though they're not paid, there are other benefits to be had. more time out of their cells and extra food. >> the trustee would get two trays at the end of their work period. >> is that your main motivation?

>> yes, that is my main motivation for being in a trustee pod. >> but eloy orosco need not worry about getting an inmate job for extra food. >> yes, you are excited. >> he is able to purchase more than enough snacks from the jail commissary to quell his appetite. >> one, one, three instant coffees. orosco pays for commissary from money put on his books, a debit account funded by family members. including the one person to whom he feels closest. >> my biggest thing is my mom. she says i am her child regardless. >> three doritos. >> she has never neglected me or said, i don't want you to be gay. >> that's everything. >> but she has always kept that in my head that -- you know it is not right. you know the way you are living is not right. and you know it is not godly.

and you know that in the end, you are going to pay for it. >> deep inside i know it is true. i know it is not right. but, do i think that i will go to heaven when i pass away. part of me wants to believe it. the other part of me knows it is probably not going to happen. >> orosco will soon face another sort of judgment day. he is scheduled for a parole hearing on the infractions that returned him to jail. a positive drug test. allegedly threatening to harm his sister in law, resulting in a charge of making terroristic threats. >> some of the evidence they have against me for a lot of messages that i sent to her on facebook. >> are you a violent person? >> i sure am not. i really am not. i guess you can say drugs really took me there. >> orosco faces three possible outcomes from the hearing, reinstatement of his parole allowing him to go home, a return to prison for up to 2 1/2 more years, or something in between.

he could be sent to an intermediate sanction facility or isf, a halfway house which holds parole violators in custody, but allows them to work at outside jobs. >> it is another form of a prison. they do a lot of counseling there. they have classes. i'm thinking that's where i'm gonna go. hopefully not. i'm trying to get reinstated because they're playing with my life here. >> coming up -- >> i am never going home again. that's what they tell me. they may put me to death. i got a lot to think about. this place is a think-tank. >> tim gaffney and other ex-gang members attempt to make peace with the past. and -- joey rhodes creates a new life in a housing unit for straight men. that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right.

>> violence has in one way or another impacted the lives of every inmate inside the bexar county jail's ex-gang unit. but now many of these men say by dropping out of their gangs, they have taken the first step towards new lives. >> prayer call, prayer call. >> come here, pops. >> we have prayer circle. how it come about, one guy had some problems and he was going to court and this and that. so we decided to have prayer. it just escalated from there. and we got, 10, 12, 15, some times 20 people in the prayer circle. >> heavenly father, we come to give you thanks. >> we get up with the special question we are lifted up. >> ask that he watches over our family and take care of the ones in need. >> bless our brothers in the

circle, out the circle. please take care of my two daughters and sisters in and out of the circle. take care of my brothers, kids, family. >> glad that i woke up able to seep this day. >> tim gaffney is a former member of the aryan brotherhood. >> a lot of us do bible studies, not out there but we do it individually. but i am never going home again. that's what they're telling me. they may put me to death. i got a lot to think about. this place is a think-tank. you can sit out there and be tough with the fellows all you want. when you lay your head down at night, that's where the torture comes in. >> if it wasn't for my radio and reading the word and reading the novels i have here, i would probably go ballistic. >> gaffney is awaiting trial for capital murder. >> they say i stabbed a man to death. and stabbed that person 11 times. >> he says the night he was arrested he mixed alcohol with powerful prescription medication and the rest is a blur. >> when i woke up and the medication wore off, when i found out what i was, i was

charged with, i was totally shocked. they're saying that i went to work and came home and went down the street to somebody i never met and slaughtered him to death. i would look to think that i am a better person than that. i have done some crazy stuff in my tind but i tell you what, i don't believe i'm a murderer. >> he has capital murder too. i talk to him. he talks to me. >> gaffney has become friend with stephen vogt, a former mexican mafia member, also awaiting trial for capital murder. >> i like him. when he came in he was real skinny. he was like a little puppy without his mama. >> she is not my girlfriend. she is my ex-girlfriend. >> she's at college? >> yeah. >> trying to study to be a music teacher. >> i have seen people like him before. i know his situation. he got caught up in something that he never should have got up in. he went with the wrong crowd. he was a follower. steve is a good kid. he is a good kid. but he is good as gold. >> i ain't got nothing.

>> gaffney has even pushed aside his white supremacist views to learn spanish from vogt. >> once in a while we will get white people, ex-aryan brotherhood. >> this is a culture shock. everyone speaks spanish around here. [ speaking foreign language ] >> i am the third wheel. i am lost. >> he is teaching me spanish, but it's doing no good. if i don't know what he is talking about. you know it is like, what is this in spanish? >> that's the same thing. >> oh, uno. is that what it is? >> yeah. >> ha-ha-ha. >> shows you how much i know. >> only time can tell, a permanent or sincere the changes claimed by those in the ex-gang unit who will be here. kyle beauchamp, experienced undeniable changes in his stay at bexar county. he is now a trustee or inmate order. >> i have been working laundry

for a week now. i work from 9:45, 10:00 to whenever we are done, 6:00 in the morning, 7:00 in the morning. one of the biggest benefits working laundry, coming out of the pod, eight, nine hours on end. also we work for food. we get two trays in the morning. two trays in the morning is a lot better than one tray in the morning. we get it first. we get it hot. that is always a plus. >> beauchamp has a new hair style and considerably more noticeable than the one that initially prompted him to request housing in the homosexual unit for safety. >> i got one of my friends in the pod to cut my hair. i was getting a little hot during the dryer work. i like it a lot. it keeps me cool. change has come to his former cellmate, joey rhodes. he has received permission to transfer to an all straight, male, general population dorm. >> i requested to be moved out

of the first place i was in. only because i had stalkers. and got a little hectic there. it wasn't what i was really expecting out of all of that. i was going there to, say, hey maybe i will have more in common with these people. friends. every day i was getting two, three people coming to my window trying to get me to expose myself to them. and every time i would go take a shower. i would get people coming in sitting on the benches just watching me. i was like, hello? it's kind of scary. i am not going to lie. finally, i talked to classification, they moved me out of there. i am in a great new pod. there is a lot of cool people here. a lot of cool new friend. it's interesting. >> while rhode must keep his homosexuality under wraps, for general population, meet at least a few inmates willing to share their opinions. >> i will be straight up. i do have friends that live that lifestyle. i don't judge them. god accepts everybody. it comes down to the fact that it is wrong. >> i kind of keep things to myself, which is what they instructed me to do. but i am sure there is gay

people in the same unit that i am in. and i know that. >> what if it wasn't so much the desires. what if they fell in love with another person? >> i said, i am not saying i hate them. >> we are not saying you hate them. it's just your beliefs, your feelings. >> i am not saying it was wrong. that's what i was raised. >> that's how i was raised. >> me, i'm attracted to both. >> i told you. >> it's not even about sex at all. it is basically about how i feel about a person. >> i understand that. >> when i came here, it was a negative thought. maybe this kid is gay. then you told me i am bisexual. okay, you like both. >> i might be a little nervous about it. i might be shy and bashful. i am not afraid they will hurt me. i don't think they would hurt me. i kind of. i would kind of welcome it. i like the attention. so if they did find out, i mean they're not going to do nothing

about it. >> in fact, rhodes found some of his conversations on the topic have taken surprising turns. >> look i told you when i was 11 years old, i got real depressed, because i felt like i started becoming that way. started becoming gay. i told my sister i think i am turning gay. they said what is wrong with you. when you see a girl how do you feel? >> it makes me happy. >> how can you be gay if you have feelings for girls. i grabbed the bible. i kept reading. and i said god, change my mind. when you see the pretty guard, you know what i am talking about, you know some of their names too, some of those guards that come in our pod. when you see them. >> all right. all right. >> because the fact you are in jail. haven't seen women in how long. you get real happy desire inside. >> no, not really. >> i do. >> that's you. >> we are born different. >> so far this place has seemed a lot mr. laid back. i feel a lot more comfortable

with whom i am. i kind of let them know, i am, i am gay. and they seemed to be perfectly okay with that. i think this jail would be better if they didn't segregate people the way that they do. >> we all agree? >> all agree. >> coming up. >> the first allegation has terroristic threats of family, household. do you admit or deny the allegation? >> deny. >> eloy orosco tries to convince the parole board to set him free.

let's go. >> you ready. >> yes, sir. >> yeah. >> it is a day of reckoning for eloy orosco. >> a big day for me. i am really nervous. >> he is on his way to a parole hearing. orosco could have his parole reinstated and go home or be sent to prison for 2 1/2 more years to complete his sentence for burglary.

he could also be sent to an intermediate sanction facility or ifs, halfway house for parole violators. orosco's parole violations include a failed drug test, and allegations by his sister-in-law he made terroristic threats against her. she has been invited to testify at the hearing. if she shows up, orosco fears he will return to prison. >> i am a repeat offender. my word isn't taken into consideration. if she shows, i am guilty. she is married to my brother. she has the rest of her life that she plans on being with my brother to face my family. >> orosco also worries that if his mother attends his hearing, she will find out that he failed his drug test. >> i haven't been straight up with my mom.

as far as coming out dirty. i hate to break her heart. >> the hearing is a tended by orosco's parole officer and run by edna corales. >> was anyone subpoenaed to be here for the hearing today? >> offender's mother is here. she speaks only spanish. i tried to get the complainant to be here. her testimony is certainly important. she has not made it. i assume she will not make it. she stated she was afraid of the threats that had been made according to her. >> orosco caught a break in that his sister-in-law is not here to testify against him. he must still defend against her allegations. >> do you admit or deny the allegations? >> do i have problems with her and have i in the past? yes. to the extent that i would hurt her, no. threaten her, no. did i confront her about it? yes. never did i say i was going to hurt her family or house or anything lake that. >> next allegation, failure to

abstain from use of illegle drugs, narcotics, admit or deny? >> admit. i went out to a party took some pills, they were ecstasy pills and ended up coming up dirty for methamphetamines and opiates. i do recognize when i was wrong. i was wrong, as far as using pills. but you have to take into consideration that, before i was incarcerated i was doing a whole different level of drugs, i was real bad out there, shooting up. >> you said you were making an effort that you were also doing drugs and you were breaking the law. whether you are on parole or not on parole, using illegal drugs is against the law. >> now, the mom is able to speak english? >> no. >> none at all? >> her friend, who is knowledgeable about mr. eloy's character, he is going to testify on his behalf. >> okay. >> good morning. come on in. have a seat. >> my mom's boyfriend has never really been okay with me or on good terms with me. he feels that i am a spoiled brat. that i am a drug addict and this and that. i don't know. we will see what happens.

>> why should the parole board give him another chance to finish these last few months that he has left on parole. >> he got out, and he went to work, first time that i know he really had a good job. they let him open the cafe, let him use the cash register, and more or less was like a general manager of the place. if he stumbled again, put him back in. but give him a chance to stumble. >> the way he defended me today it showed me that i guess he is on good terms with me now. which i was surprised. >> thank you for having me. god bless you. >> thank you very much. >> i'm very happy that my mother didn't get invited in. i'm glad that when her boyfriend was in there, they didn't speak about my violations. >> all right, sir. >> i hope everything goes well for you. >> while many things broke his way during the parole hearing,