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next year i'm going to be at the crib on my birthday. >> this feels good. actually getting released from somewhere. >> just goes to show you. you can't sell people short. you never know what's going to happen. you wouldn't have expected most of what occurred this go-around, would you? >> no. >> see? just goes to show you. >> ricardo paisano. >> thank you. you can have that. good luck. take care. thank you. >> i certainly hope that he's learned from his mistakes. i hope that we gave him something, some tool, some resource within himself to hull from to get his life back on track. and i hope that he makes it.
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kneel down, kevin. >> stop. stop! >> anger's always been in me since i was a little kid. i just waited to get out of here. i just want to leave. >> i slip up. teenagers slip up, you know.
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>> it is hard being -- because i'm still a kid, too. >> every time i turn around -- >> i think she's too young to understand what's in her best interests, and the court needs to step in to assist her. ♪ stand up, man. >> stand up. >> stand up. >> i've been through this [ bleep ] before. it doesn't hurt. >> you think you're playing? i'm going to kill myself. i don't give a [ bleep ].
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i'll jump off my [ bleep ] sink and y'all ain't going to do [ bleep ] about it. >> sometimes we need guidance in our life and we need the parents to be there for us when we need them the most. and when you ain't got them, it just hurts. >> 16-year-old kevin has been at lake county juvenile for three months. it's been a long detainment, and not his first. >> this is my sixth charge. i had two truancies, criminal trespassing, runaway, burglary, and this charge was only battery. me and my mom's arguing and her boyfriend was kind of drinking. and he started laughing at me. like he thought something was funny. so i reached over my mom and i swung at him. the cops came and my mom took his side. she's like please press charges, i just want him to learn his
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lesson. i pleaded guilty to my charge, and the judge, he had to think about it. he didn't really know what to do. so i'm still here. >> it takes time for the juvenile courts to figure out how to best handle each individual case. and in kevin's situation available beds at placement facilities are hard to come by. >> in here for all them days, it just -- it gets to you after a while. especially when you ain't got your mom. it's all real hard. >> in the juvenile court i think that if we have any indicator of what's going to happen in someone's life is looking at the family and how supportive or not, how healthy or not is the family. i mean, without family involvement and support the kids are never going to be successful. >> for years msnbc has been documenting the tragic stories that unfold in america's juvenile justice system. with extraordinary access from the indiana supreme court, we've been allowed to take our cameras
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inside a world where they are by law generally forbidden. in the intake department elizabeth slokta prepares to process yet another juvenile. this time a 17-year-old girl arriving at the detention center. >> intake. >> what did she run away from? >> she ran away from her mother's house but she's denying running away and said she's at her grandmother's house with her baby because her mother kicked her out and she went home for something and her mother called the police. so we'll find out. >> unlock door. >> kymyada, come on out. >> i'm upset because i'm back here again. but this time it's for misunderstanding. when i was 14, the first time i run away, my mom is going to whoop me for something i didn't
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do. and i was -- i couldn't take it no more. i thought running away, fighting her, just going wow, because nobody was paying attention to me. >> do you remember the intake process? from last time when you were sneer. >> yes. >> you know you were referred here for runaway. did you have any problems up until recently? >> my mom said if i couldn't abide by the rules i had to leave. and now i'm staying with my godmom. >> and your mother approved this? >> yes. that's why it's a misunderstanding. >> i don't understand why you're arrested. >> i've been doing good for a year now. and after i had my baby it's the first time i slipped up. but i didn't do anything wrong. it was just lack of communication. >> we're going to go ahead and call your mother from here. are you going to want to talk to her? you do want to talk to her? >> decades of research shows
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peer pressure and family turmoil are the two biggest factors that lead to juvenile delinquency. for kymyada and her mom the relationship never seems to live up to what either of them expects. >> hi, kimberly, this is someone from lake county juvenile center. >> i should have called someone, let y'all know it was okay. but i'm doing good. >> y'all doing good but you're not not doing good when you're running stroot et cetera streets and you partying and not coming back. now because you're locked up you want to make changes now. >> no. that's not true. because i was making changes before this even happened. >> not in the streets, yada. you can't make changes in the streets. >> okay. i slipped up. i know that. >> how long are you going to be in this slip-up? that's all i'm saying. >> being arrested on a friday means kymyada can be detained
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until monday. when days stretch into weeks, the stress and loneliness of lockup can create volatile situations. the command center receives a call from e wing about an offender possessing dangerous contraband. >> she pulled the screw out of the desk, you know, that long bolt. probably like eight or ten-inch bolt. >> you've always got to be alert. you've always got to be thinking. you've got to watch everything they do. >> we're going to take them as is. we'll wrap him up and go. >> typically if there's a code, nine times out of ten you know it's coming. you're not a mind reader but you know it's coming. this kid's angry, he's been snapping off on everybody. so when you hear the code, you're like oh, i bet it's so and so. >> what you're doing on the card tables. >> i try to establish a pretty
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good rapport with our problematic kids so that hopefully upon my arrival i'm able to talk to them. >> step back. step back, kevin. >> what is your problem? >> kneel down. >> hell, no. >> kneel, kevin. >> so she didn't leave the house without your permission, did she? [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work?
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♪ the detention officers at lake county juvenile are reporting to e-wing after a steel bolt was seized from 16-year-old offender kevin. though officers recovered the weapon, kevin must be transferred to a new wing. for his safety and that of the other juvenile offenders. >> i'm not playing with you. hell no!
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>> put your hands on the table against the wall. put your hands against the wial. >> hell, no. >> okay. >> what is your problem? >> what is my problem? that's not mine. >> kevin, don't show your rear end. >> y'all got me tripping. >> turn around. kneel down. >> hell, no, man. >> kneel down, kevin. >> get off me. >> code green echo. code green echo. [ alarm ] >> a code green basically is
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considered a general emergency. >> it's a situation where we need backup. we need extra personnel to come down and help out. it's for the safety of the kid and for the safety of the staff. >> get off me! >> we asked you to do it the easy way. >> the frustrating thing about a code green is you're running into the situation blind. you have no idea what you're going into. >> are we going to do this? give me your arm. >> it's our responsibility to keep all kids safe. we're going to do whatever we've got to do to keep the child safe. and we do that with maximum numbers, minimal force. >> hold on. >> get him up. >> you need cuffs? >> no, we got them. >> we got them. we got them. >> stand up, man. >> stand up. kevin. stand up.
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>> he just had this bolt and he was dlaenting he was going to hurt first staff that come into the room or one of the other residents that try to come after him. he's been here for a while. if you know the outcome of whatever's going to happen to you, there's a sense of peace in that. i'm either going to get to go home or i'm going to go to placement. when you have no idea what's going to happen to you, you do start to go crazy. >> you had your chance, kevin. >> it's impossible to assess the kids who wind up in juvenile without taking a careful look at their everyday environments. that starts with family and home. >> i'm from chicago, and it's a lot of gang bangers, shooting going on. and you see it up close and personal and stuff. so i had to grow up early and
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just experience a lot of stuff. so i know how it is. >> i got one more week. i'm not doing nothing else. nothing. never coming back. >> i've been doing so good. i used to be horrible. didn't care about nothing. but this time i ain't even do nothing. >> at the same time i'm like oh, my god, i miss my baby. that's why i'm so emotion ol. >> it is hard being a 17-year-old mom because i'm still a kid, too. and i've never been away from her like this. never. it's hard. >> every time i turn around i see her face.
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>> this ain't the place to be. >> you'll be fine. you'll go home. just two more days. >> now that i'm a teen mother, partying's got to stop. i've got to think more. i can't spend time by myself or whatever. but just next time make sure i call someone to check up on them. >> the longer a teen is locked up alone in juvenile, the more desperate he becomes. most kids can at least look forward to parental visitations to comfort them during detainment. but kevin's mom says her work schedule and transportation issues prevent her from seeing her son. now kevin is at the breaking point. >> let go of me. you think i'm playing with you? i'm going to kill myself. i don't give a [ bleep ]. >> whoa. >> i'll jump off my [ bleep ]
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sink and y'all ain't going to do nothing about it. >> kevin is being transferred to the high-security wing of lcjc, where staff can hopefully calm him down and keep closer tabs on his behavior. >> i'm still going to kill myself. so it don't matter. >> kevin's threats of suicide mean he will be placed on round-the-clock watch, and ware only a paper blanket for his own safety. >> he said he's going to kill himself. just leave him cuffed and shackled. we'll put one person at the door. let him be till he calms. >> [ bleep ]. >> he said that he was going to kill himself. so we now have to deal with that and take the precautions of that. >> yo. >> sit down. >> ah! >> i've got news for you, sweetie. not everybody cusses their parent out. [ male announcer ] when we built the cadillac ats from the ground up
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ruck, to discuss their strategy for court. don knows her case will be tough. it was kymyada's own mother who had her arrested by calling police and claiming she ran away from home. >> i want to take a few minutes to get a sense of what we need to do to accomplish what i anticipate is your desire to go home. >> yes. >> okay. so one of the things that particularly concerns me is that not too long ago you had a very similar charge. you were charged with running away, right? >> yeah. but this time it was a misunderstanding. >> okay. how do we explain when the judge asks kymyada, now we're here again, what's different this time? >> it was a misunderstanding because at this time i don't stay with my mom. i stay with my godmom. so that's why i was hurt and confused, because why would she make this as a runaway and i'm not a runaway? i just needed some time to myself because being a teen mother, that's hard.
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>> i told the police, i'm like, it was getting late and she was getting cranky. she would get irritated. i didn't know what to do and i thought i was going to lose it. so i just took her to a safe place, to her grandmother's house. >> i just dealt with it's best way i could, so i won't do anything stupid. i slip up. teenagers slip up, you know. but i'm not a bad child anymore. >> okay. so we not only have to convince the judge. we have to convince your mother. and my hope is a lot of the love that you have for your mother will come through and that that will resonate with your mother tomorrow. because frankly, my big concern is convincing your mother that it's time for you to go home. >> many times there are parents who will get on the stand who will say i cannot take my child home with me. and if that's the case, there's very little that i can advocate that's going to change that. >> tonight when you're thinking about court tomorrow, what i want you to do is think about the relationship you have with your daughter and what it would
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mean to you as a mother to have your daughter someday leave and not know where she is. >> part of what i do as a defense lawyer in these cases is trying to elicit testimony that a parent sitting in the background can hear and maybe influence and change how steadfast they are to their decision that the child should not come home. >> there you go. >> with an average daily population of 70 boys and girls, it's impossible for staff at lcjc to give kids the one-on-one attention so many crave. in some cases that hunger leads to desperation. >> get down, kevin. now. >> get away from me. >> don't get up there. do you understand that? >> kevin's a very angry young man. he said he was going to kill himself. and once we shut the door he stood up on his sink, implying that he was going to jump off of it head first to harm himself. >> i want to go to placement. i want to get out of here.
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>> and that's not going to happen the way you do it. >> i didn't even do nothing! >> kevin, do you think this is going to get you out of here? you're the one that wants to leave here. you're the one that's throwing a fit because you're in here. why would they put you out of here if you're going to act like this? stop. >> he's becoming very angry and disgruntled, and he thinks acting out is going to get him out of here. and that's not going to work. >> you know better, kevin. >> i'm just tired of being here. it's been 100 days already. >> i understand that, kevin. i understand that. and i know that's what's really got you worked up. kevin, chill out. behave yourself. i'll give you a phone call. all right? will you do that? >> yes. >> nobody wants to have to be physical. you know, you don't want to have to restrain a kid if you don't have to e. are strain them. if i can get to them through communicating with them verbally and just sitting down and talking to them, you know, i'd much prefer that. >> hold on.
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i'm going to give you your mat. okay? i'm taking you at your word, kevin. >> this battery charge, i didn't know it was going to be this severe. i got put under advisement, and advisement means that whenever the judge feels he's ready to come up with a decision to send me somewhere then he'll do it. but till then i've got to sit and wait and i'm just another number. >> in jail there's nobody here to help you. being here some days not having my mom, not having anybody to talk to it drives me crazy. >> being here it gets to you after a while, especially when you ain't got your mom and your dad. it just hurts. >> my dad's in prison. >> i know that. i had your dad. your dad was here with me. i know. i had your brother. and i've got you. don't continue the same pattern. >> anger's always been in me since i was a little kid. it started around when i was 6 or 7.
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i think it was my dad went to prison. and i was real close to my dad. and losing him for a couple years just kind of set me off. >> all this anger is building up in me and i just can't figure out a way to let it out. >> and then my mom having her boyfriends and stuff like, that i didn't want him around because it wasn't my dad. >> what about your little brother? show him the right way. you can do it. you can do it. but you've got to want to do it, kevin. you've got to want to do it. don't end up like your dad. >> are you guys really going to
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hey there. i'm veronica de la cruz. here's what's happening. search and rescue teams are on the way to hattiesburg, mississippi after a tornado tore through the town on sunday. and there are reports of three people injured and significant damage, including the campus of the university of southern mississippi. there are reports of injuries on the campus, though. and a crowded carnival cruise ship is stranded in the gulf of mexico after an engine
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fire. it is drifting on emergency backup power now as tugboats prepare to tow the ship to the port. i'm veronica de la cruz. now back to "lockup." > ♪ by law juveniles who are arrested can spend a maximum of 120 days in detention. 16-year-old kevin is close to that limit. >> get off me. >> after months behind bars and just one family visit the depths of kevin's despair resulted in a tense situation for everyone involved. >> get the [ bleep ] away from me. >> it was a rush. like it just came like that. and everything just started shaking to me. and i didn't want to give up. >> i'll [ bleep ] kill myself. i don't care. [ bleep ]. >> i was just being stupid. i would never kill myself. i've got a lot to live for.
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it's just all an act. i was just trying to get attention. >> after his safety was secured, jamie spoke with kevin to get to the root of his distress and anger. and despite his rebellious behavior the day before, jamie makes good on her promise of a phone call. >> 9 times out of 10 when they're angry like that it's not the issue at hand. it's something else. he was pending placement. he was upset. he was scared. you know. so what does he do? he goes off and starts tearing up my room and everything else to get the attention. but when it's all said and done, ultimately "can i talk to my mom?" [ phone ringing ] >> her voicemail came on. >> we'll try tomorrow, kevin. okay? we'll try tomorrow. listen. don't get all worked up. we'll keep trying.
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all right? are you going to be all right? >> i don't know. i just want to talk to my mama. >> i know you do, kevin. >> my mom, she did come to visit me one time and she promised me she's going to visit me almost every weekend, but she don't come. >> you've got to keep it together, kevin. okay? you've got to keep it together. you've got to. you don't have a choice. >> i just feel like breaking down. my mom, she really wants the best for me. but at the same time how can i get the best out of something if she's not going to be there to talk to me about it? >> all right? put the blanket around you. >> i'm just waiting for that day to get out of here. i just want to leave. >> family involvement from one case to another can vary greatly in the juvenile justice system. while kevin struggles with what lies ahead, kymyada finally has her day in court where she's convinced she'll set the record straight with her mom.
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>> if you're standing to the side of somebody, you're not in line. >> i'm not nervous at all. because it was just a misunderstanding. the judge is going to listen to my mom, but once she hear my side of the story and she'll know where i'm coming from she'll understand too and so will everybody in the courtroom. >> i need kymyada gehr. good morning, kymyada. how are you doing? ready for court? right this way, please. >> hopefully, i'll go home. then i'll be with my baby. >> right this way, kymyada. >> i'm just going to explain myself from the beginning to the end, leaving no parts out because it's two sides to the story. >> this young lady is charged with runaway, is that right? >> correct. >> okay. kymyada, have a seat up here,
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please. >> kymyada, you're charged with running away. tell us what happened. >> well, my day, me and my boyfriend and my cousin had the baby and we was out all night. we didn't call nobody. i think tuesday i dropped my daughter off at her grandmother's house because i was getting agitated with her. this is not my first time getting agitated. so i just -- >> agitated with your mother? >> no. my mom didn't have nothing to do with this. it was my daughter. she was sleepy, getting cranky. we was out late. i just needed some me time, away from the baby, away from everything. after that we didn't call nobody or let them know we was okay. so of course they're going to make them reports. because they didn't know where we was at or i didn't call anybody. >> well, kymyada, since i think a large part of what the outcome of today's hearing is likely to be is going to involve what your mother has to say, do you have anything you want to say to her
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to influence her decision as to whether or not she thinks you should come home with her today? >> well, the being disrespectful, cussing you out when we get into it, i know i do it. everybody does it. but this time i really have changed. yes, i slipped up. but it's not like i'm continuing to do the same things i was doing when i was 14 years old. so i have been making progress. >> okay. judge, that's all i have. >> mrs. guzic? >> kymyada, where had you been with that baby all night? >> over my cousin's house. we spent the night over there. because it was late. >> is that a habit of yours, to take this baby and drop it off in different places? >> no. that is not a habit. no. mm-mm. >> how old's your boyfriend? >> he's 18. >> is he in school? >> no, ma'am. >> are you seeing a pattern
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here? you're not detecting a pattern of doing things in your life that isn't in your best interest? >> by i can't look at what he's doing. i've got to do for me. yeah, we going together, but people going to do what they want to do. >> i have no further questions, judge. >> all right, kymyada, you may have a seat back there. next witness? >> judge, i'm going to call kim foster to the stand, please. miss foster so, the court can get at least a better understanding of who kymyada is, tell us about your daughter. >> she's always had issues. i've always tried to address those issues. through doing and being the best mom i possibly could. unfortunately, for kymyada, she needs more attention than i can give her because me and my husband both work. to the point where we are now, it started with being disrespectful with me. after that we laid down the law. either you abide by our rules or you need to go somewhere else.
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she chose to go and be with her godmother. that's fine. i know where you're at. you're safe. we'll work this out. >> and you were okay with that. in fact, you presented her with that as an option. >> exactly. because i trusted that person and i knew she would be safe with that person. >> okay. so she didn't leave the house with your permission, did she? >> today the court is considering two difficult cases. there's kevin, a repeat offender who's been incarcerated for nearly four months, pending a final judgment from his last hearing that will ultimately decide his fate. and then kymyada, a teenage mother and former runaway. she's charged with running again but continues to plead her innocence. will the court agree that she has reformed, or will her mistakes separate her from her baby? >> we're dealing with two children, not just one. so the question is would you be
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if there's one thing senior judge mary beth bonaventura has learned in her 26 years in juvenile justice, it's that there's never a playbook when parents and kids face off in court. >> you can sentence someone to death. you can sentence someone for life imprisonment. but to try to figure out how to put a family back together in about 30 minutes, after you read the reports of a certain pattern of behavior that probably has gone on for years, is a very tricky thing to do, a very important thing to do, and wow, the impact we can have if we get it right. >> kymyada is charged with running away.
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and although she's told the judge her side of the story, her mother has yet to establish why she turned her daughter over to the police. >> she chose to go and be with her godmother. >> okay. so she didn't leave the house without your permission, did she? >> no, she didn't. because i gave her an option. i said you abide by the rules or you can go. >> and then at some point you called the police and reported her as a runaway. >> okay. now, she didn't call. she didn't check in. she didn't do anything. so the same pattern with me she did with the godmother. and i knew then that they were just on the wrong -- they weren't -- and she neglected to say drinking, smoking, partying, having a good time. so now i need to step in and i have to do something to keep her safe along with keeping the baby safe. so i put in a missing persons report. i want it to stop. i want her to go to school. so then when she gets out into
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society she won't be another statistic. she won't have a child who i have to take care of because i want her to raise her own daughter. >> ms. foster, would you be willing to take your kudaughter home if the court provides a supervision? >> i don't believe it will be successful. >> kymyada, first of all, you talked about that you were disrespectful and you cussed your mother out. you said everybody does it. i've got news for you, sweetie. not everybody cusses their parent out. okay? so that's first and foremost. secondly, you going out and taking your baby and staying out all night, and you needed some me time. i've got news for you about that. when you decide of it a baby, there is no more me time. the me time goes out the window when you decide to have a baby. and i agree with your mother. you can't be bringing a boy into the house because you're just going to get pregnant again. which leads me to my next point. do you use birth control? >> i get the shot. >> your mother's shaking her head no. yes, ma'am. >> i try. i even took her to the -- i'm
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not going to take a shot. that's not good for me. "i'm not going to take the shot." >> i didn't want to take it in the first place. >> all right. do you think you need to have another baby? >> no, i do not. >> so what are you going to do about birth control? >> i might as well go ahead, take the shot, then. >> anything else? >> kids are having sex. and i think as a nation we need to really look at kids having kids. somebody's got to stop it. i'm not saying i can do it single-handedly. but someone has to talk to children that there is abstinence but if you're going to have sex there's condoms and all other forms of birth control. let's try to be as responsible as we can. >> mrs. guzic, anything? >> well, judge, i think that kymyada in her youth is a very selfish person. and i think we're seeing that and hearing that today. what i haven't heard in here today at all is "i miss my baby. i want to go home." i think kymyada's going to keep doing what she wants to do. i think she's too young to understand what's in her best
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interests and the court needs to step in to assist her. >> judge, kymyada says she wants to go home. she swears she's going to do better. i agree we've all heard that before. i would just ask that the court consider the available options the court has given the fact that we're dealing with two children, not just one. >> thank you. >> it seems unlikely that kymyada's side of the story has convinced the judge to drop the charge. her attorney is hoping the judge will at least consider a ruling that allows kymyada to go home while the court weighs its options. it's still unclear if her mother will consent to that arrangement. >> today what the court will do is find probable cause to believe that this young lady is in need of services. that no matter where she's placed kymyada be provided parenting classes. that she begin the process of working on her g.e.d. if the parents decide not to take her home with them today, i'm going to order that she be placed on or before 4:00 p.m. today at an alternative house
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and they'll provide those services. and last but not least, i'm going to order individual and family counseling. this hearing's adjourned. thank you. >> okay. i'll be in touch with you. i'll let you know what they -- what they decide. okay? let me talk to you guys outside. >> okay. i'm working on it. we're going to see what we're doing. i love you. okay? >> i love you. >> i love you. >> hey, mom. man. >> unlike her mother, kymyada's stepfather believes that placement outside the home may not be in kymyada's best interest. the fosters have been taking care of their granddaughter while kymyada's been locked up. but attorney don ruck knows some tough decisions need to be made. >> there's two options really. at 4:00 today kymyada's going to go to a home where obviously there's a lot of structure like you were talking about. or she could go home and be released to you guys today with
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the list of interventions and services that the court has said. >> we're still at odds on that view. so. >> they're talking about it now. and i know deep inside with my dad's help that i'll be going home and be placed on house arrest. >> kim, as her mother -- >> what's best for her? >> yeah. >> as kymyada's parents struggle with their decision, jamie pays kevin a second visit since yesterday's incident. but this time she brings good news. >> kevin's going to placement finally after being with me for quite some time now. >> 99 days. >> he's quite happy about it, and i hope that it's a positive experience and we won't be hearing of kevin anymore. >> it's a real good placement. it's a campus. i'll be on a school all year round there. i'll probably end up being there for nine months to a year. and basically, the goal there is
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to get us on the right path. >> i thought it was going to be forever. feels like forever. >> i'm sure it does. but it's a temporary hurdle. you can get over it. and you'll make it through it. >> i had talked to one of the guys. his name was gary. and he told me that as long as i stay on the right track and get my grades up and all that i will be going home. >> hi, kymyada. why don't you come out here? i'll talk to you out here. unfortunately, your mom said that you need a lot of structure right now and your history of breaking the rules is something that's not likely to change. so the court's ordered that you be placed at the alternative house in gary today at 4:00. so until maybe some counseling and things can take place between you and your mother, you know, while you're still underage if you can't go to your
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mother you're going to have to be in placement. >> oh, well. that stuff's crazy. >> okay. hang in there. hang in there. >> it may help and it may not help. but i can't allow her just to get away with whatever. and she's just saying these things because she is in trouble. and that's just the pattern. that's been the pattern. so this is the beginning. this is a start. >> you have your clothes and everything? >> good to go. >> you need to just sign out. >> even though kevin will be away from home, this time he
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won't be away from family. after the court's lengthy search for a facility that can handle his needs, it turns out kevin is going to the same placement that his younger brother has been attending for the past six months. >> okay, kevin. take care. >> you too. >> best of luck to you. >> my little brother's been there since january. hopefully, my no, ma'am mom is i get out this time, she'll come visit me in place sxmt all that. >> all right, guys. >> take care. good luck to you, kevin. >> kevin definitely has potential. if he can really search his heart and want to make the changes, i believe he can do so. but it's truly up to him. i hope he's successful. that's all i can say. >> while kevin is excited to go to placement, for kymyada being sent to a placement facility means separation from her
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daughter. but her story does not end here. >> that statement that you said hurt me really bad because -- ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ we, we chocolate cross over. ♪ yeah, we chocolate cross over. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing fiber one 80 calorie chocolate cereal. ♪ chocolate.
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after two weeks of placement at a local facility kymyada gets some surprising news. during her absence from home kymyada's mother and stepfather reached a new decision regarding her placement and requested a second detention hearing. so kymyada finds herself back in juvenile court. >> mother and kymyada have met and talked and the mother believes it's in her best interests and kymyada's best interests to have her released back into her custody today. >> ms. foster. >> a couple weeks back you indicated you couldn't commit to taking kymyada home with you. tell us what's happened since then. >> during that short time i have made phone calls, done some
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research, finagled and moved around schedules so that there could be someone in the home because i felt it was the best interests of kymyada along with the family and her daughter for her to be more at home. >> why did you do all of those things and make all of those changes? >> because i love my daughter. >> okay. have you met with kymyada or talked with her since she's been away? >> yes, i have. >> tell me about that. >> yada understands that it was her behavior that put her in this situation. she has some maturing to do. but other than that she's been fine. she needs to raise her baby. that's her baby. that's her responsibility. along with being a productive adult. and i believe being at home along with the structure of the court and any provisions made to help her would achieve those. >> that's all the questions, judge. >> i'd like to say one thing. >> go ahead. >> from the statement that the lady -- i don't know your name. about my baby.
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>> what i haven't heard today in here at all is "i miss my baby, i want to go home. i want to be with my baby." i haven't heard any of that. >> i felt very, very bad on that statement that you said, and it hurt me really bad because -- i do love my baby a lot, and it's a lot of young girls that's my age that don't care about their baby and just go out and just do whatever. but i have tried a lot in my progress and that really hurted me so bad because i do love my baby. but yes, i know i was wrong. and i would love to go home and start over again because i know i can see. that's what i want to add. >> i just want kymyada to understand my concern is always for the baby. she's a helpless individual. if you're acting out of her concern first and foremost, that's the only thing i want to see happen. so if even my comments make you do that, then i've accomplished what i want. >> mr. ruck, anything else?
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>> judge, i think kymyada has done what we hope happens when someone is not released home to their parent and that's that they think not just about what they did but what the people in this courtroom told her. the structure's in place at home. kymyada's ready to take responsibility for herself and her child. and the court should reconsider at this point releasing her to her mother today. >> i think for her and for a lot of kids her age it's growing pains and we just have to figure out how to help her get through that. >> today what the court will do is grant your request and order that she be released and returned to your custody, and i'll order that she have individual and family counseling to resolve the issues that are obvious from the last hearing so that we don't find ourselves back here again. all right? i'll order you be released to your mother. and this hearing's adjourned. good luck. >> you're going home. good luck to you. >> thanks. >> good luck. >> thank you. >> you

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