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all right. got to move it right along. what did he learn today? >> i'm going to defer my time because i learned from afropolitan means. >> someone who has strong ties to the continent but global perspective. >> my niche. >> this is it, ghana must go. >> my first one. >> a spectacular piece of work.

>> what about what i learned? >> you learned to stand here and do this. chuck todd, chuck, take it away, buddy. >> thank you. president obama and his team take it down a notch now that the sequester cuts are a reality and while the budget battles take a breather, the next fight might unfold fast this week over the from the's pick to run the cia. also this morning, my conversation with former florida governor jeb bush about immigration. the republican party, in the future, not shying away from 2016, could his candor cause a clamor. >> somebody voting today, the city of angels where antonio viadosos could lead to the first

woman mayor of america's second largest city. >> good morning from the s street dog park in washington, d.c. it's tuesday, march 5th, 2013, and this is "the daily rundown." here's chuck todd. go get it, chuck todd. >> that was a good catch, and yes, that dog is named chuck todd. thanks to him and his owners, michael and lul sauna. as washington gets ready for what may be the first significant snowstorm in two years, the snowquester, bread and milk buying and worrying, as only washington can, d.c. digging out from eat storm, the sequester. the president attend down the warnings again, adopting more of a reassuring tone. >> we are going to manage it as best we can to try to minimize the impacts on american

families. this will slow our growth. it will mean lower employment in the united states than otherwise would have been, but we can manage through it. >> meanwhile, there was still cleanup going on from the campaign stage. arne duncan said he may have misspoke when he said teachers were already losing jobs. >> when i said pink slips, that was probably the wrong word. you should have use job elimination. i should have been clear there. secondly, when i said impact on teachers, you should have said impact on educators. >> this morning in a new cbs poll, 53% surveyed say they will personally be affected by the cuts. 18% said they want to see cuts, but 63 said they want to see the cuts without the sequester. only 13% want no cuts at all. when it comes to the political

fallout of the all this, more americans would blame republicans in congress, 38%. but there's plenty of blame to go around, 33% would blame the president and congressional democrats. so you see why the white house wanted too pull up stakes. keeping sequester funds in place but giving those agencies more flexibility to decide what programs that will seeth cuts. senate democrats may add other measures to try to cushion the blow of the cuts but neither side is looking for a real confrontation here. meanwhile, the white house is trying to move on to other fights. today, the fight may turn out to be about cia pick john brennan. the senate intelligence committee is scheduled to vote on his nomination today. senate majority reid said the vote will be a test of republicans' good will. but republicans, some of them, want more answers on the benghazi attack and they are

threatening to put a hold on brennen's nomination as leverage. >> john and i are hell-bent on making sure the american people understand this debacle called benghazi. >> i've had questions for weeks now. i have some questions about torture. >> i'm not going to vote on a new croix director until i find out what the croix did in benghazi. >> yesterday they released a list of what they regard as unanswered questioned about benghazi. including democrats who believe the senate has not given congress enough information. after the president rolled out new budget, energy and epa picks, just five cabinet posts remain to be filled. secretaries of commerce, labor and transportation, top spot at the small business administration and the job of u.s. trade representative.

most of that we expect to get filled up in the next week or two. if it's tuesday, you know my favorite expression, somebody's voting somewhere. today that somewhere is in the country's second-largest city. los angeles is beginning the stages of picking a new mayor. accusations of corruption and record-breaking campaign spending with more than $19 million spent on ads, campaign mailers and consultants, the top two candidates are tied. councilman eric garcetti picked up 27%. wendy gruel was at 25%. third, radio host kevin james, the only true republican in race. along with scandal, this race also has a celebrity, because you know, it's l.a. >> eric was always the idea guy.

when we were 8 years old, he had a crazy idea to start a break dancing crew and to dance battle other dancing cruise around town. what we lived together later became the basis the hit move, break in two, electric bugaloo. >> there's a measure that's on the ballot that would raise the sales tax to 9.5% to bring in $1 billion over the next five years to help close the city's shortfall. but it's unpopular. all the candidates for mayor came to oppose that ballot measure. they've spent money of their own, swapping accusations, the most bizarre being this video from the loan republican kevin james. >> as mayor of los angeles, i get not only showing where we can find the money and showing where the bodies are buried. when wendy gruel says she knows

where the bodies are buried, believe her because she and eric garcetti are the ones that buried them. >> it is a detraction and a desperate attempt and i think is inappropriate. >> the ad got plenty of attention. it drove james' negatives up to over 50% with a group that watched the ad. meanwhile, gruel, who could become the first woman to lead l.a. if she won, have been boosting unions. they've been airing ads like this one of garcetti singing at a convalescent home. >> gruel has failed to audit the nwp salaries, and now the dwp is spending millions to attack me. >> you can see these attacks are

all over the place. n't other woman in the race, jan perry's ability to manage the budget because she once filed for personal bankruptcy. they called the attacks outrageous and offensive to those of us fighting every day to help women fund financial security after divorces, knowing the issues are related to her ex-husband's law practice. first, how many people will vote? could be a low turnout. just 34% in '05. care to 44% in philly, 41% in san francisco. the second question, will we have to do it all over again? if no one gets more than 50% today, they advance to the one-on-one run-off on may 21st. polls open today and close at 11 pm eastern time. and by the way, the hispanic

vote, there's no natural constituency. eric garcetti can claim some hispanic heritage. it's going to be fascinating to watch. this one's not over after tonight. by the end of former florida governor jeb bush's tour, there isn't going to be anybody who has a doubt that he is serious about running for president in 2016. he's reducing this book tour to raise his hand to wanting to become a major player in the republican party's attempts to rebuild. he's not shying away from raw politics. when i sat down with him, he pulled no punches about the mistakes he believes mitt romney made in 2012, specifically on the issue of immigration. >> for a guy who is as talented as he is and who i think would have earnestly gone about the job of being president in a way that would have brought people

together, i don't get it. it became clear that if you turn people off that are aspirational in nature because of your tone on immigration particularly, you're not going to win people's vote. >> jeb bush had been critical of the tone mitt romney took on immigration. while he admits he's thinking about running for president in 2016, he's also mindful of the difficulties of where the republican primaries are today. he watched both his brother and father slog through questions of real conservatives. >> i remember you said i thought i was a conservative. i would not have been a conservative in that debate. >> yeah, so the question is how do you win with purpose and meaning that allows you to have a chance to win in the general election? and i think it's back to, i don't want to sound like a broken record, but i think it's to talk about positive things

rather than just appealing to people's legitimate anger about the direction the country's in. you have to do more than that. >> there's a lot of more that you will want to hear from jeb bush including explaining his immigration reform solution. he's backtracking from his own plan in his book. his surprising thoughts on the cuban american vote that went better for obama than a lot of people expected and what he thinks about florida governor rick scott's decision on the healthcare law. plus his father, brother, his son, and more of his thoughts in a 2016 reason. that's all coming up later this hour in our deep dive at the bottom of the hour. but up next, a different type of republican family feud maybe. congresswoman shelly morecap will be here. she's caught in the fight between karl rove and conservatives. but first a look at today's politics planner. as you can see north korean hearing going on in capitol hill. we'll see if dennis rodman's

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well, it's day four of the sequester. as the hysteria starts to die down and the $85 million in spending cuts kick in, is there a compromise? joining me now congresswoman shelly moore capito. good morning to you. >> good morning. thank you. >> i want to ask you about the sequester impact in west virginia. the good, the bad, the ugly. what can you tell me?

>> i was there over the weekend as i am every weekend, and a lot of people saying hang tough. this is the time to challenge the will of this country to cut spending to move us in a better fiscal direction. there is concern, certainly i have concern about the education issue because we have a lot of title i schools. but i think we could make adjustments and there is a will to make those adjustments in the next several weeks. >> explain that will. does it include something where you would see more of a grand compromise? could you support a large compromise that included some closing of tax loopholes, but included long-term changes in entitlements that the president is claiming he'll agree to? >> i don't see us getting there in the next three weeks. i think that we in the short-term, we're going to make adjustments this week to give the department of defense and the va the ability to move

around and make those cuts in the places where they feel they can. i think in the long-term, certainly. we want tax reform. hr 1 is all about tax reform that dave camp's been working on and his committee. and those will close those loopholes, make it more fair. we've got to do that, and i want to join with that and also the entitlement issue. i haven't seen a real effort from the administration to say let's preserve this for future generations. >> i want to go back to the issue of long-term. if tax reform produces new revenue, which is always the washington code word for new taxes, are you okay with seeing some of this money used not to only lower the tax rates but maybe some of that money used as part of the grand background, if you will, that maybe included, so that some spending cuts weren't as harsh as some people want them to be. >> i'd like to see -- when we see the figures, when we see

where this goes, lowering the rate is something i'm in favor of and voted for several times. at the same time i'd like to see us dedicate some of that money to debt reduction in the long-term. but we still have the big elephant -- i like to say elephant -- in the room. the entitlement issues, because if we don't start reforming these, the next generation, it's not going to be there. and i think that's a real red flag for all of us. >> west virginia is a state that, you know, if you're going to rank states about money that they send to washington versus money they receive from washington, west virginia's one of these states that ranks pretty high up on getting money from washington. how fortune is federal spending to west virginia's economy. >> i think you've said it there, it is very important. but also, we're a state of great families and communities who want to see opportunities for our children and our grandchildren, and i think that we realize that when you have one hand tied behind your back because you've overspent and

your economic force is not with you, that that's not an advantageous place like west virginia that does have a lot of federal dollars coming in. so i think we're willing to titl tighten our belts. that's what we expect from washington. >> you've supported some of this federal spending and it's gotten some criticism from some of the national conservative groups who believe that you've been too supportive of federal spending. what do you say when you didn't get attacked by democrats first, you got attacked by conservatives first. it was talked about that her record looks like the establishment candidates who lost this year. but they've been critical because you've supported federal spending that comes to west virginia. what do you say to them? >> i say to them, i live in a state, in west virginia, and my first loyalties and priorities are to the people of west

virginia. and one of the votes that they point out in that is the children's health insurance program. i live in a state where there are a lot of children living in poverty whose parents can't afford insurance for one reason or another, unfortunately, and we know that their path to success and opportunity is better health. so i'm going to support the children's health insurance program. this is a history i've had since i was in the state legislature. and the way i would say to national groups is, i didn't come to congress to be rated by a national group. i came to help the people that i serve and i'm going to keep doing that. it's all the political silliness. i'm thinking i must be doing something right if everybody's attacking me. >> you have a karl rove who's trying to make american crossroads and try to start a new group that would help who he called more electable candidates for status, so in this case would be more supportive of your candidacy. are you glad that there are people like karl rove out there

trying to do that for a candidacy potentially like yours? >> i think what we have to look at is what's at stake here and that's control of the united states senate. and i think that it's extremely important in the framework of this country to move us in the direction i'd like to see us go is to get control of the united states senate. and west virginia is considered one of the primary opportunities. i'm glad to be right there at the center of it, and i think i can be successful with it. groups coming in are really less important to me than my work ethic and my ability to communicate where i can go. >> do you sometimes think electability should trump ideology. >> i think people want to know that they can trust you, that understand their problems, and so electability is extremely important. >> all right. from west virginia, and your father, i believe, was governor back in the day of west virginia. thanks for coming on. >> sure. thanks. >> you're looking at some live

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in today's deep dive, more of my conversation with former governor jeb bush. on one key issue, is he playing catch-up?

before the election, he laid out a strategy that did not include a path to citizenship, believing such a plan wouldn't pass conservative muster. i sat down with the former governor to discuss his new book, immigration wars. he told me how he would fix the process. >> we should create a bigger -- our immigration laws should be more strategic in their approach. so i think a path to legal status where people can come out from the shadows is satisfactory in that regard. but remember this is a proposal we attempted to put out prior to the election to create a consensus for conservatives to get to the game. >> so you think it's possible that a path to citizenship may be included in the eventual bill and are you going to be okay with that? >> i think we need comprehensive reform and if there is a path to

citizenship that has enough of a relations that we have to respect the rule of law -- >> pay real fines. >> and a longer period of time. >> what is that window? the president has said eight years. >> the book is not a law. the book is set of principles and a set of recommendations. the fact that, though, you need to have two parties to engage to create consensus and compromise is what we hope to mack a contribution in. so the details i'll let others figure out, but the simple fact is finished be easier to come legally than illegally and there should be rewards for legal status. >> the cuban-american vote. it appears that it essentially was 50/50, you know, maybe romney won it by a point or two, maybe obama. but a split down the middle. do you attribute that much that

the younger cubans don't like this tone on hispanics as well? >> for sure. it's not just immigration in the case of cuban-american voters because they have a special status in terms of immigration. it's our party, the party that has been i think the source of many of the important reforms grounded in conservative principles over the last generation of time has become way too reactionary. way too against whatever someone's for. >> and this younger generation, whether it's white americans or cuban americans. >> any hyphenated form of american. >> yes. >> you cannot sustain a message of being against things. you have to be for things. and just when we come across as anti-science, anti the president, which look, there's a lot of problems with his policies.

>> do you think it's personal? >> no. it's just more being against this expansion of government. those are legitimate impulses but there are a whole lot of people that aren't too impressed. we've forgotten that. you go to the '90s and '80s, the democrats were those that are anti-reform. so instead of sending that signal, maybe we should have a view on immigration, which we know is emerging, have a view on education reform, have a view on regulatory reform, healthcare reform, have a view on tax policy, and recognizing that republicans control one-half of the one-third of the government in washington, be principled in the advocacy of these views and not just be against things. if you look around the country, you see that that is actually happening. >> well, the governors in general, and let's talk about governor scott and a decision

that he made that surprised a lot of conservatives, this decision to take the medicaid money having to do with president obama's healthcare plan. what did you think of that decision? >> i was surprised, to be honest with you. >> would you have made that call? >> i don't know. i think any time you have a chance to be -- back to this point. anytime you have a chance to advocate reform, you should. so medicaid needs to be reformed. if you're going to expand it by 50%, it sure better be a dramatically different system. and in florida there's a waiver that has been approved that could be that reform, expands on the reforms that i had a chance to advocate when i was governor. so if the focus is on making medicaid work for people and that it won't create this outyear costs that people anticipate, that somehow the wm

reform will yield a better result, then okay. >> you're not there yet. >> if that's the case, kudos to the governor. if it isn't, then he's put the state in a precarious position three or four years out. >> you're being much more open thannive ever heard you before. what's different this time? >> i'm not saying yes, i'm not saying no. >> that's the difference. you used to be pretty definitive. >> 2008 i was asked about it, and i said no. it wasn't the right time. this may be the wrong time too. i don't know. it's way too early to go through that process four years out. >> but i guess what is your motivation to not shut the door this time? what's different this time? >> i've accomplished some things in my life that allow me now to have that kind of discretion to be able to think about it. i don't know what the rhythm and pace of 2014 looks like much less 2016. i don't know.

but i think you have to understand, though, that we need to be the governing party. the whole point of this is to take conservative principles and to apply them, and the only way you can do that is to get 50 plus one. so the strategy needs to be how do you appeal to a broader number of people. i know this is sound kind of crazy, but people actually watch the republican and democratic primaries that aren't republicans. >> people forget. >> yes. your election has to have that kind of purpose to it, the campaign does, and i think governor romney, in this really crazy primary system, managed to survive it, but he did not manage to put himself in a position where people connected with him on a personal level or a set of ideas that they said this guy is going to make this happen. it's no fault to his. i'm not critical. it was a tough process he had to

go through. so the next time, if you want to win, i think you have to learn from the lessons of the most recent election. >> one of the things, you were the only speech at the convention that brought up your brother's name. it was one of those -- >> did you hear the noise? it was unbelievable. it was powerful, the emotion. >> it was almost as if -- >> about time someone saiding? . >> has the republican party tried too hard not to bring up your brother's presidency? >> yeah. >> you think they pushed it to the side? >> i do. but this is not a view where i'm coldly objective. >> you're not objective? >> mcclellan ncompletely not. i love the guy. >> who's the advice you gave to your son running in texas. >> i didn't give any advice. he's thought it through. it's a good time for him in terms of doing the most important thing, which is providing for his family.

he's got a great spouse that is totally in on this. they're having a baby, and she's a talented person in her own right. so i feel comfortable that he's thought through the personal side of this, which is the most important side. >> your family ready for you to go on the national stage? >> i don't know because i'm notice going to have that conversation until out into the future. >> what is that? two years down the road, three years? >> it won't be three. but it'll be closer to then than now. >> can florida have two presidential candidates? >> i don't know. that's way too out in the future too. >> he did have nice things to say about marco rubio. you just heard it right here. jeb bush, seriously considering a presidential run in 2016. what does that mean for the rest of the republican field? what does that mean for hillary clinton? first, white house soup of the

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>> you could nickname me. >> maggie haberman, the thing about all this rollout with jeb, is he's not shying away from the 2016 conversation, probably have marco rubio going on, oh, no. >> or something. >> but that in itself is a significant move for jeb. >> absolutely. he spent so much time during the 2012 race avoiding process except for a couple moments when he said he didn't think his father would be able to get elected in his climate, and when he said 2012 was probably his moment and that ted passed him by. obviously he thinks there's another moment ahead. i do think this was not the simplest of rollouts with this book. it's been complicated in terms of a path to citizenship and where he stands. it could be an issue for him. it depends on where this debate goes. >> nancy, what's interesting about this book, he didn't come out for a path to citizenship in the book. you ask him about path to

citizenship and he clearly says, it's not a deal breaker. then he says, well, i wrote the book before november when he thought republicans -- it's clearly hinting read between the lines. he was having a political white paper in a attempt to get conservatives onboard, perhaps not where he was. >> it would put him to the right of marco rubio and the gang of eight. path to citizenship, that's 9 million to 11 million potential voters. i think he's in a complicated position because all along he's been to the left of his party on this subject and that's not a comfortable place for him. >> but he seems to not be -- alex, he was so easily moved away from his book. it's like he sees the writing on the wall, oh, path to citizenship's going to be in there. i'll be okay with it. >> well, that's a big bet. i think, first of all the fact

that jeb bush is now dropping the phrase magnets which harkens back to mitt romney. we talk about maggies written about the party. fact that genetic bush feels he needs to do a tango over the path to citizenship when you have marco rubio pushing on that issue, it points, i am bullish about pushing. but when you see someone like him do what he's doing now at this point in the process, i think it throws some question out there as far as whether they're actually going to get it done. >> maggie, i saw already some former romney people blindfolded saying, geez, if he wasn't for a path to citizenship, why didn't he say that more loudly for us during the campaign? >> well, it goes back to a political calculus and a white paper for the party. i think he knew where this was going.

i don't think you ever saw him feeling that warm warm about romney. i think if the romney campaign wants a narrow dawn their list of enemies, i think he could be on it. but the fact that he is being so open about his desires on 2016, as you say, it changes things because almost everybody else is afraid to put something forward now. >> right. nancy, what this does with jeb doing this, and he can't clear the field like hillary, but you know there's a lot of democrats sitting there, going, that guy can get elected, if he somehow survives the process, he's sounding like the conservative in florida, knowing how to compromise, that puts more pressure on hillary clinton. >> can i just say, that nothing delights me more than the idea of the smackdown. >> we never got this, clinton,ç

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bring back the gaggle. nancy gibbs, mallory and alice wagner, it's election day somewhere. i always get excited. they're voting in l.a. today. i love angelina. the turnout will be horrendous. but what binds new york and l.a. this year is this opportunity for the first time that there are serious women candidates and it's two cities that have never elected a woman mayor. chris quinn is basically the de facto front-runner and wendy groll probably gets in this runoff with garcetti. why has it been so hard for new york not to elect a woman there? >> there has not been a female candidate since 1997. there has not been anybody who -- >> women don't really move through new york city politics. >> correct. chris quinn has been the example

of it. miller did not do very well. she is starting out at a higher poll position. i tend to think that is name recognition. only the people have heard something about her, don't know much about her. she would be the first gay female mayor. that would be a big deal. >> bloomberg, the question is -- it's pretty clear to me all these l.a. mayors are trying to run away from leregossa. do you run towards him, away from him? >> there's a new york profile and a national profile. a lot of new yorkers very much stand by what they're trying to do on you gun control and climate change. if you look at the 100 biggest cities in the country, 92 mayoral seats. >> bloomberg, do you think these candidates run toward him or away from him when all is said and done? >> i think he doesn't help, he doesn't hurt.

he's bigger than the whole thing. >> shameless plugs. >> second relaunch. it's going to relaunch a new set of wars including this one about women leaders. >> story about the leader list gop today on politico. >> jeb wants to be the leader. >> the show at noon on this channel will have best selling author david beldachi. and half the show is dedicated to you, chuck. >> that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." we'll see you back here tomorrow on what may be a snowy d.c. snow-quester.

. i'm meteorologist bill karins. all eyes on the storm hitting minneapolis very hard. during the day, though, the heaviest snow will spread north of indianapolis, near chicago, eventually into areas of ohio. winterly mix just south of there. snowfall totals today could approach 6 inches from chicago to northern indiana.