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let me finish tonight with this. i think about these hate groups.
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what did obama do to earn the hatr hatred? is he some kind of dangerous criminal? not exactly, obama came up as a community organizers, a soft-cell guy. he's done just about everything right in his life. didn't have a father around, but did a great job in school himself. got into columbia, later, harvard law. didn't become a money grubber. he decided to work helping people in his own community. a peaceful kind of guy. is he some bounder who doesn't take responsibiliiblility for h manhood? i say just the opposite. so what is it that the haters fear about this guy? what do they hate? that he's black? is that it? he didn't push gun issues until newtown. is it the immigration issue? he's the same as the gang of 8 right there in the middle. what is it they hate in this guy? they should be applauding him as a role model. a hundred years from now, white, black and brown, this is just the guy you'd want standing out
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there as our role model. that's "hardball." "politics nation" with al sharpton starts rielt now. >> thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. last night, the largest active volcano in europe erupted. mt mt. mt.edna spewed la va and hot ash for a thousand feet in the sky. the blast was so powerful, it was visible in space. something else is blowing up. the gop's relentless disput with president obama. yep, you can see it right there. in just a few minutes, president obama will leave the white house for a dinner to talk policy and politics with a group of republican lawmakers.
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he'll break bread with 11 gop senators, talking about taxes and cuts and breaking gridlock in washington. this could be the start of something. >> i'm encouraged by the president's out reach. i hope it bears fruit. there are other senators who will be giving their views to the president tonight. they will probably try to talk sense into him and he'll try to talk sense into us. >> talking sense into the gop? i like the sound of that. that's probably why two republica republicans, in particular, won't be attending. that's right. senator mcconnell, no soup for you. and speaker boehner, no merlot for you, either. those two republican leaders have proven they reject compromise. they've shown they're beholden to the far right. need an example?
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just look at the fit speaker boehner threw over the white house decision to stop tours over atmatic budget cuts that republicans allowed to happen. >> what's the idea that we're going to shut down tours at the white house during the ooeszer season when washington is overrun by visitors, it's just silly. and i want to know who's being laid off at the white house? is this what's going on? all i can say is the capitol is open to visitors. we welcome the american people to come to their capitol. we've been preparing for the president's sequester for months. >> careful now. stand back. john boehner is out raged. wouldn't you love it if he were just as out raged to the cuts we're seeing to the poor or the cuts to the vital women's programs or, i don't know, how about 750,000 jobs that will be lost if we don't come together on a budget deal?
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how about some out rage on that, mr. speaker? and while he's downright angry, congressman paul ryan is practically gleeful with the cuts the latest budget will make to the safety net. the new york times says, "he's likely to propose cuts to many programs unaffected by the automatic redurkss. like food stamps, medicaid u social service block grants and farm subsidies. he would use those savings to reduce some of the automatic cuts, including in the military. quiet a reverse robin hood. steal from the poor and give to the pentagon. joining me now is congresswoman out of illinois and chad bernstein for budget and policies. thank you for both being here tonight. congresswoman, let me go to you, first. some senators may be open to compromise.
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but it seems the same old ways with the house republicans. >> there is such an incredible disconnect between the united states congress, the house, the republican-led house and the rest of the world. the real life, the real world that my constituents live in. and everything single thing that they're doing, the sequester, the continuing resolution, the ryan budget make income and equality much worse. created, as you pointed out, the loss of 750,000 jobs. give more tax breaks -- the ryan budget will give more tax breakst the wetiest americans. nunl none of this is necessary. this is a self-inflicted pain on the middle class and the poor.
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>> jared, when you look at the president going to dinner with them tonight, reaching out, they always said he did reach out. he's reaching out again. new york times said this weekend, the president's new strategy in dealing with the gop is -- >> is this new strategy a result of what he learned his first four years in aufsz, in your opinion? >> i think so. i think he learned from silting across the table, negotiating in fairly old-school style, the idea that the president deals with party leaders didn't work for him because the party leader, i'm thinking of speaker boehner in particular, he didn't have his troops behind him. so let me underscore something the congressman said about this. i'm very glad they're trying to
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work towards compromise. it's a word that's been lacking in washington. we won't move forward woult it. but look at what they're talking about. you're not telling me that these folks are getting together to try to figure out how to bring the unemployment rate down or to increase the ralt of job growth. you're telling me they're getting together to try to turn off sequester and diffuse the latest fiscal time bomb. that's good. but how about some urgency around jobs, the economy, the things that the congresswoman was talking about. >> and then, when you look at the real suffering that people are doing and we're talking about the preserved loopholes for people's private jets and their private yachts, congresswoman, it's really amazing. but, at the end of the day, though, you have to hope that you can get something done if you really care about people not suffering. senator graham, who i've been no fan of, he did show some kind of
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willingness to cooperate. listen to this. >> i have said that i'm willing to bend the retirement curve. i'm just speaking for myself. >> i've been no fan of his on this show and other places. but, for him to mention revenue, congresswoman, is a big deal. you know, he mentioned revenue, but he also mentioned the real prize that they're after. and that is social security. that had nothing to do with the deficit. so medicare and medicaid. so that's where they really want to go. so to cut those programs, to cut the benefits of those prachls is what they really want to do. that will cause enormous pain. and i think that is a bad trade-off for us to be making. >> jared, the president is not
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just at dinner tonight. there's a lot of reachings out going on. he's having dinner tonight. next week, he will address gop house and senate conferences and will join republicans for lumpk. also, he's spoking with congressman paul ryan regarding the bumgt. so he's very proactive in trying to break this gridlock and get something done, which is a good thing if you're one of those 750,000 people that may lose their job. or if you're in one of the situations that the american people talk ds about. of course that's right. the president has consistently argued for turning things off. the plan that he's put forth has been balanced between revenue
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increases on one side and spending cuts on the other. the thing that republicans consistently refuse to remember is we've raised about $700 billion in taxes. we already have an imbalance there. we've legislated $2.30 of every spending cut for every dollar of tax increases. the president is absolutely right, that's got to be the way forward. he's said i'm going to do some things that many of you may disagree with. >> it's not as if democrats right-hand turn being asked to do anything, either, to koch miez. i mean, there are members of my party who violently disagree
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with the notion that we should do anything on medicare. and i'm willing to say to them, i diszagree with you because i want to preserve medicare for the long haul. and we're going to have some tough politics within my party to get this done. >> both sides need to be willing to compromise. >> so, when they say that he is not willing to compromise and that he's just inflexible and more and more and more, that's reelly not true. >> of course, it's not true. we already cut $716 billion out of medicare. already, the republicans accused us of cutting medicare. now, they really want to cut more and more and more. we are willing to cut all the fat out of those programs to make them more e fishlt. but when you start cutting benefits, you're talking about taking life-saving health care away from seniors who make a
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immediate yanl inco median income of $22,000 a year and are already paying 20% of their income out-of-pocket for health care. we just have to be very careful about where we make the cuts. but of course we're willing to sit down and discuss where they can be made safe lly for the american people. >> well, congresswoman, i'm going to have to leave it there. you're right. we can cut the fat. it's when they start trying to cut the bone that bothers me. congresswoman and jare jared bernstein, thank you for coming on the show. ahead, president obama ready to mark a major milestone in the fight for equality. valerie jarrett joins us live on a winning fight for women's rights. and bill o o reilly losing control. >> give me one damn program he's sitting -- >> it's called entitlements.
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>> what are you doing? why do you want to yell? >> b >> because you're lie g. >> ten years since the invasion of iraq, dick cheney sfil has no regrets. >> well, i don't spend a lot of time thinking about my faults i guess would be the answer. >> we do. many of them. and we'll talk about it. big show coming up. stay with us. ♪ [ kitt ] you know what's impressive? a talking car. but i'll tell you what impresses me. a talking train.
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we know our economy is stronger when our wives, our mothers, our daughters can live their lives free from discrimination in the workplace and free from the fear of domestic violence. >> tomorrow, the president will mark another milestone for women's rights. he will sign the renewal of the violence against women's act. into law. it's been a long time coming. republicans blocked the law for almost a year. posing its expanded pre eed pro for groups in native america and the l.g.b.t. kmupty. most republicans were still saying no. 138 republicans in the house and 22 republicans in the senate. they tried, but they failed to stop the violence against women act. the president's first act in
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office was to expand women's rights with the act. and, tomorrow, he'll make history, once again. joining me now is white house senior advisor, valer valerie jarrett. nice to have you here. >> i'm honored to be here. >> we're very honored to have you here and around this occasion. >> an amazing occasion tomorrow will be. >> it really took longer than it needed to become law. and to go to the president's desk. tell me why anyone could be opposed to a violence against women's act. >> it's hard to imagine when you think that every day, three women die as a result of domestic violence. five women in the course -- one in five women will be assaulted or raped in the course of their life. and that number 1 in 4 for college-age women. with that kind of statistic, how on earth could we not move forward.
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we'd made a lot of progress since it was authored by vice president biden. it's been reauthorized and strengthened twice before. and this time, we said it should apply to all people. we had resis tense, but ult maltly, it passed and we should be surrounded by stakeholders around the country and it should be a testament to what happens when youp don't give up and you keep pushing. >> and the act has worked. the 19 years has been into effect. we can see tangible results. >> huge effects. if you think back to 19 years ago, the police department were trained to recognize it. so oftentimes, acts of domestic violence were ignored and men were put right back on the street if they were taken in to begin with. women didn't have hotlines. there were no services available in terms of social services or shelters available. legal services were not available.
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so the resources we have in terms of human capital and financial capital have made a dramatic difference. but we still have hard work to do. >> now, i notice that you were able to have a strategy that appears now by getting individual senators and congressman in the republican on the republican side to vote with you. is that a new strategy? that the white house is just not even arguing with the leadership and repealing directly? >> the president's attitude is he'll do whatever it takes. so we're going to talk to the leadership as he met with the leaders last friday about the sequester. you mentioned this evening, he's having dinner with some of the members. we'll talk to whoever wants to come to the table and work with us in good faith. we've had huge challenges in this country, reverend sharpton. as you know. but there's nothing that we can't do with the american people behind us. i think what you saw with the violence against women act is women and men all across the country saying come on now. this is something that we have to do -- not just the president
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to do it as the president. or he did it as a father of two girls, as a husband, as a son recognizing the importance of protecting all of our women around the country. >> and men. >> absolutely. do you think,as you mentioned when i talked about the show, would this possibly lead to compromise and breakthroughs and other areas? >> certainly we hope so. we've already seen glimmers of light. there seems to be anl awesome momentum but so much of his agener agenda to invest in education and early fall of the state. infrastructure. that ambitious agenda that's a growth agenda that will position
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our companies to be globally competitive in order to tackle that fully, we need to get our fiscal house in order. so we're going to find that common ground and the president, as you know, he's not about to give up now. >> now, when you say fiscal house, that's going to be a balanced approach. as i was just talking with congresswoman shakowski, the president has said he's dealing with some spending in some of the things that some in his own party and some on my side of the etiological said that the president is talking about. >> so far, we've cut $3 for every 12kw4r50ur7bs dollar of revenue. he's not willing to balance our bujts on the backs of senior citizens or children with d
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disableties or the poor. so we have to make sure that -- we can't everything everyone else to sacrifice without asking those with the top income to sacrifice. it will lead to investment and growth. i've spent the last few days in new york meeting with the business people. and they're more than willing to pay their fair share of support. they took that message to the hill at the end of last year. many of them were met with deaf ears, but we're just going to keep at it. that's going to be what positions our country for growth. yesterday, the stock market hit an all-time high. we are on the right track. we just need to still do big things. and i am confident that if we're all working together and with the american people behind us, we can still do big things in this country. >> if we can make the stock market hit an all-time high and unemployment an all-time low,
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that's the balance we need. >> white house senior advisor and i'm sure a very proud american tomorrow when he picks up that pen and signs the continuation of the violence against women eegs akts. valerie jarrett, thank you for your time tonight. >> still ahead. no regrets? no joke. dick cheney is trying to rewrite history. but he won't get away with it. and the truth behind bill o'riley's freak out. >> don't sit there and call me a liar. >> i am. >> we can have a disagreement without calling me a liar. that's not necessary. >> no, you're lying. you are lying.
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it's the guest list everybody's talking about at the big conference known as cpac next week. mr. 74% new jersey governor chris christie, he got trumped. it's the latest sign conservatives have absolutely no clue how to rebuild their tarnished brand. today, newt gingrich was critical, very critical, of the eve event's organizers. >> i don't know what the purpose of cpac anymore. the cpac, at one time was the place where ronald reagan gave his famous speech about gold colors, not pale pastels. i don't know what cpac is today. >> whoa. a conservative leader and former presidential candidate saying he doesn't know what purpose the conference serves? but here's my big question. who else will speak? who are the organizers looking to help?
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calling the president of the united states lazy. >> look, let me tell you what the big problem with this president is, in my prn. he is absolutely lazy and detached from his job. >> lazy and detached. and this also must have pleased the fox boss. this. >> i'm assuming there's some rhythm to barack obama that the rest of us don't understand. whether he needs large amounts of rest, whether he needs to go play basketball for a while. i don't watch espn. i don't quite know what his rhythms are. he really is a lot like the substitute referees in the sense that he he's not a real president. >> the president is not a real president? it's the same attitude that pushed the networks big star over the edge last night.
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losing his mind when someone dared defend the president. >> he has to say here are the programs that are going to go down. here's how we're going to reform medicare and social security. and the man refuses to do it. >> that's not true. >> yes, it is. >> hold it. because i'm getting ted off at you. give me one damn program -- >> it's called entitlements. not entitlements. >> what are you doing? why are you going to yell? >> because you're lying. >> don't just sit there and call me a liar. >> you're lying. >> don't sit there and call me a liar. >> i am. >> of course the president has a plan. but you wouldn't know it in the right wing echo chamber. the bubble they hear it, i see it. and start to believe it. and why not? kpleer l clearly, its all starts at the top.
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joining me now is toure. you know, toure, we've heard the term lazy about the president a lot. now we see who also believes it. what do you make of the connection? >> there's so many ways we could go here. this sort of lazy term is something we heard flung at us as black people going back to slavery, which, of course, you know, we perceive them as not guilty not wanting to work. of course they didn't want to work. they were slaves. >> but they did work. >> but this is a revolutionary thing that they're doing saying we're going to get out of all of the work that we can. and then this stupid idea follows us since then. it's this really disgusting, accessing stereotypes, red meat sort of dog whistle. on the fox side of the aisle, they say yes, that's right. this is what we think of black people already. and, on our side, we're like what are you talking about?
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and when you say he's never worked a day in his life, what you're saying is being a teacher, because he's a constitutional law professor for quite a while, that's not working? >> before you do that, another subtle thing is lazy and never earned anything other than public money. which is almost like welfare. >> absolutely. >> and then you ridicule he was a teacher. he was a lawyer. and then he did kpunty organizing, which has been ridiculed by the right. listen to this. >> i guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer. except that you have actual responsibleties: >> with all the vast nuclear experience that he acquired as a community organizer. >> he sees the community organizers. it wasn't boy skouts.
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it was radicalizers. >> you can't learn that as a community organizer. >> i mean, to ridicule community organizers, by the way, i wish we had more community organizers in chicago, given the violence right now. but to ridicule public service, community organizers, is just counter productive to american life. and i'm being real nice about it. i'm trying to not be like the big guy over at the echo chamber going crazy at the show. >> no, you're absolutely right. one thing that you actually noticed and listened to the things that happened and are sort of in that conservative media bubble, is that there's never sort of any intellectual rigger or weight to things that they're saying. they can say anything, throw any ball at obama, and everybody just applauds. i was listening to michael savage the other day. just because i was stuck in the car and there were no other radio stations avamble. and he kept saying that obama belonged in jail. and they say this over and over and over.
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now, never did anybody actually sail why he belongs in jail and what law they have broeben. but it just says that. and the people just cheer, yeah, you're talking to obama. >> let me bring this to some facts just so people understand. when you look at the fact, the president, the present president, president obama, has taken fewer days in his first term than his predecessor did in a shorter period of time. president obama has taken 84 days of vacation from the day he took office, january 2009 to today. during a shorter period of time from january 2001 to just august of 2003, former president george w. bush took 250 days off. this is in a little over two years, he took 250 days. in four years, he's taken 85 days: and they say he's lazy?
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what's he doing playing basketball? come on. in is clearly trying to throw some buzz words out there. >> absolutely. i see this sort of conservative media as clint eastwood yelling at a chair, talking about critiques that aren't rel. talking about an obama that is imagined. he's lazy. he's never worked hard in his life. noneover the of these things ar. they're not making them. they're just making red meat, dog whistle critiques that don't improve your brand. so, fine, spin off into the right universe where there's fewer and fewer constituents to follow you and keep following elections. that's fine with us. >> watch toure on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. here, 3:00 p.m. eastern that is, on msnbc. toen years after the iraq war, you will not believe what
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simpbly stated u there is no doubt that he's using the ining our friends, against our allies and against us. >> and that's how it all began. dick cheney misleading america into the iraq war. a costly, bloody, shamefully unnecessary war. now, ten years later, the former vice president is speaking out in a new documentary. and chen oh, y hasn't changed. >> what do you consider your main fault? >> my main fault.
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well, i don't spend a lot of time thinking about my faults, i guess would be the answer. >> the american people spend time thinking about his faults. america spent clearly too much for that war. $60 billion spent on reconstruction efforts alone. that's $15 million a day over the past 10 years. that's why this comment is so shocking. >> this was a wartime situation. it was more important to be successful than it was to be loved. if i had to do it over again, i'd do it in a minute. >> joining me now, cynthia tucker and joe conoson. thanks for being here tonight. >> good to be here, rev. >> good to be with you. >> joe, let me start with you.
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you wrote books about the bush-cheney white house. despite all the evidence the country was misled, how can dick cheney not think about any of his faults? >> well, he must have always been very good at that, rev. he has many faults. and the biggest fault is his inability to perceive reality, apparently. or to express it correctly to the american people. i mean, what is on the record now but what they did in iraq is so devastatingly bad. you know, the 60 billion is a tiny fraction of what we spent there. economists like joe stiglus, estimate that we spent $3 trillion on that war. $60 billion is 2% of that. little enough for the iraqi people and it didn't help them anyway. >> and he still thinks he's right. i mean, 4,409 people dead. american soldiers dead.
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31,925 wounded. and he still think he's right, joe. >> well, the question i would like to ask him, and i've been able to do that, what do you think this war achieved? the only beneficiary of this war, so far as i can tell, is iran. iran has gained immeasurably. we spent $3 trillion to make iran more powerful in the middle east than they were before. >> now, cynthia, cheney hammers at former secretary of state condoleezza rice to destroy a nuclear reactor under construction in syria in 2007. listen to. >> i strongly recommended that we ought to take it out. >> cheney was just a voice alone saying we have to attack and destroy this reactor. >> and i thought it would sort of, again, reassert the kind of
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authority and influence we had back in '03 when we took down sadham hussein. >> now, he attacks or makes the statement that former secretary rice was on the wrong side of all of these issues. but, cynthia, wasn't going into iraq at all on the wrong side of the issue for him? >> devastatingly wrong. you know u i stand in awe of dick cheney. and i don't mean that in an admiring way. he's a man with no shame. he's a man with no conscious who, even today, ten years later, says everybody else was wrong and he was right. and given the tremendous amount of influence he had in the white house, he was running national
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security and foreign policy, effectively running the president, george w. bush, it's a wonder we weren't dragged into even more wars. it's clear. he wanted to bomb syria. happily, by that time, bush had begun to give condoleezza rice a little more power and a little more authority. and she said no to that madness. try to imagine what desperate shape the u.s. would be in now if we had gauged in -- engaged in, yet, another war in the middle east. it would have been awful. >> you know, joe, when she -- cynthi aur cynthia talks about what the influence cheney had in the white house, it was interesting. she wrote a scathing piece today titled "repent dick cheney. and she responded by saying they're going to say you're a
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misguided power mo eer monger, a paranoid spasm, led this nation into an unthinkable calamity. that's a line. and then she goes on the right about how cheney manipulated bush to go into iraq. he was also goosing up "w"'s insecurity to make his costly detour from osama to sadham and cherry pick his face leading iraq. he played on w's fear of being lampooned. >> the point that makes that comment so interesting was cheney was supposed to be the wiseman who is going to help the inexperienced bush, who had no world experience, do what needed to be done as president. he had been in a realist
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administration under bush's father, the first bush president. and, therefore, people thought oh, we can have some confidence in this. of course, the opposite was the case. the arrogance of cheney that is shown in that film clip and that we now see exposed is the same arrogance that told him we don't need to go to the united nations. we can defie the united nations on iraq, syria. that is really bad state craft. i its's terrible. it has cost us untold amounts of treasure, blood and a big part of our future. >> do you think, cynthia, that when people see this documentary, it will only remind them of how insensitive and in denial the bush administration was, and, in particular, vice president cheney? >> absolutely. ten yearings out, there have been a number of conservatives
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to the war who have come out and said they were wrong about this. some other conservatives don't want to think about it. they want to act as if that period never took place. all that awful stuff that happened under george w. bush, they don't want to think about. but this documentary is going to force people to think about it once again. and let me say one more thing about cheney that i think is just unforgivable. you know, cheney never served in the military. he was a draft dodger in vietnam. he said he had other priorities. he managed to get out of the war. but he didn't have any hesitation about pushing other people's sons and daughters out on the front lines. and i just think that's absolutely unforgive b. >> i'm going to have to leave it
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