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all those stories throughout the hour. but first, we begin this hour with a verdict in the stubenville sexual assault case just about an hour ago a judge in the ohio steele town delivered the verdict. >> it is the court's decision that both of the defendants are here adjudicated delinquent beyond a reasonable doubt as charged. with those of you who are not familiar be ajude indication of delinquency it's equal to being found guilty. >> i would like to apologize to april and her family. those pictures shouldn't have been sent around.

>> i'm sorry to put you guys through this. >> let's get right to nbc's ron allen who's joining us there from stubenville. let's explain to the viewers, no jury in this case, just a judge bringing it all out. so how did he explain his decisions and the sentences? >> reporter: it was a juvenile proceeding, alex and that's why a judge presided and entered their verdict. there's evidence that these two men attacked this girl in a car and then later in the an apartment when she was naked. this girl said she really didn't remember anything from the time she went to a party with some friends, admit that she was drinking heavily that night, passed out a few times that evening, woke up in a strange

home, and she didn't know what happened to her. but there were eyewitness testimony who said they saw the boys commit the crime. there was also a series of text messages, the prosecutors received literally 00 dreads of thousands of messages that were sent between the party goers. and there were some very incriminating messages sent out by one of the two defendants and then there was also evidence that he tried to cover up the crime. so just a really troubling series of events revealed in the court documents and in the testimony. the judge said that he was troubled by the profanity. by how these kids abused alcohol. by how there was no parental supervision during this night. but so many young people that night across this town here in

stubenville. the town, i think many people here were just amazed about the culture of drinking alcohol, the disrespect for young women displayed by the young boys here in this town, just a very disturbing series of events in many ways here in stubenville, ohio. with regard to the two verkverd. trent got one year and malik got two years. this is a town where the high school football team is king. how much has this created just a real damage in this town? i mean how much has it affected this community in terms of its social, it's culture, it's everything? >> well, the everything continues too, alex, the judge

said that he was going to convene a grand jury for charges like concealing evidence, for failing to report the crime. and there were several students that would not even participate in the investigation. so we're still trying to get to the bottom of these things. the boys were sentenced to a juvenile detention facility where they could spend four to five years until they're 21. and they also have to register as sex offenders, we have to say that one boy, malik, said my life is destroyed. this is a boy who had come from the right family, had put his life on track, and he was a high school football star. and now they have made a lot of mistakes. both families of both boys

completely devastated by this and of course the victim herself. >> we'll see what happens in this next hour. let's go to politics because we have two budget proposals on the table but neither side is ready to make a first step toward compromise. today republican majority whip kevin mccarthy put the blame fully in obama's court. >> the president has a different belief thatten we do. this president has never missed on a deadline turning in a march madness bracket. but four out of five times hi missed turning in a budget. >> their budget is built on a hoax. on the one hand they say it balances in ten years, on the other hand they say it reveals obama care. the fact is that they repeal all

the benefits of affordable health care. if you were to repeal obama care today, their budget would not be in balance. >> and the result of the cpac straw poll are here. senator rand paul took over the surprise, with senator marco rubio took seskt. rick santorum third. representative ridgeal, thank you for joining me. i want to talk about the budget, but first, what about that straw poll, is rand paul your sick for 2016? i haven't made that decision, but i appreciate his bold defense of liberty and limited government. and i certainly appreciated that filibuster he offered, that was

the right thing to do, 13 tough hours, but i'm glad he did it. >> in the interview that we just played you heard congressman mccarthy repeating the flame that the govp won't allow any new taxes, do they believe that the democrats will just cave with no compromise? >> alex, you may know i was one of the few republicans who was saying that we a bit more revenue, but also through tax reform. i made that case all the way up to the fall. and when begot up to the fiscal cliff, i was hoping that the agreement would incorporate spending reductions as well. it was $73 billion of increased taxes. so i voted no for it. i'm really asking me democratic colleagues to help us address spending, our budget goes up by about 3.45%. both of them go up, it's just

that the democrats are going up really far higher. >> but representative ridgeal, are there others who are like minded like you in the party? how many? >> but there are some, but i do want to make the point who are that it truly is spending that's driving this train and i was very disappointed in our president when after the election, he put it this way, he said we need to begin to take a look at how we reform titlements. this was after he had been in the office for four years and i had an opportunity to speak with the president for 10, 12, 15 minutes or so privately one day and i shared that with him. i think he's sincere in his desire to get our fiscal situation in order. i don't questiona at all. i do have a greater sense of urgency, i think, than the president does zplochlt we do

have the budget comparisons do you find any ground for compromise between the two of them. well, this is what i'm so passionate about, i always look for that because we can't stay on this path, i tell my friends, my republican colleagues and say we can go up there on the floor with 233 republicans following us and we really aren't going to get anything done. so we need to find some common grind to navigate through these situation. a tangible step in his direction. i think we have been very bold and i'm proud of our conference room for putting fourth this budget that does responsibly address entitlement reform.

>> with are anotherer side actu ready to work with each other or are we suck in that rhett trick vortex. alex, it's a good question and i am determined to dial back the rhetoric, we're americans before we're anything else. and this harp partisanship is hurting our country and i just go where the numbers lead me, and that leads me to this conclusion, that expenses need to come down at a far higher rate than revenues have got to rise. i'll give you a quick example, our local economy here gained 18 thourgs jobs if the administration would eliminate its ban on coastal virginia energy, here in our district that's being hit so hard by sequestration. our two u.s. senators, both democrats want it. the administration is holding that up. we have got to focus on job creation, that's the first place to go for new revenue.

>> i do know that you took a lot of heat from our fellow republicans when you traveled to the newport news shipyard before the sequestesequester, are you about that coming back to bite you? because time and time again, that is a lot of revenue that i cited earlier. people are afraid of,primaried. >> i was raised by an iwo jima marine, he's still doing great, he was my inspiration to run and he taught me to protect my country. i offered the fellow who called me, please relate to the president that i accept with gratitude. we need more communication in washington, not less. it doesn't mean he capitulated, but civility is essential in our republic for us to get things done. it was the right thing to do, and i'm not worried about a

primary. i feel good about how i'm representing the district. >> i think that your dad's proutd of you, that's all i'm going to say about that. >> congressman, thank you. this week president obama will embark in the middle east and joining me now, nbc white house correspondent peter al kpa kpapder. >> the reporters ahead of the president's trip, the president will not get there until about wednesday. i got off the phone a short time with a former middle east envoy dennis ross who said the unique sim p bolls and sense ptivities in a trip like this. the president will spend less than 48 hours on the ground in israel. the highlight of his trip as soon as he lands. while he's not going to make a trip to visit the iron dome batted field.

the rasheed walla the israelis are going to bring it to where air force one lands. there will also be a lot of symbolic trips, we will not go to the western wall, he won't go to the mosque one of which is significant to judaism, another one that's significant to islam, to the muslims. he will go and visit the church of the nativity in bethlehem. he is trying to go to places that have significant relevance to some of the people where the three world religions, judaism, christianity and islam meet without offending any of the others. on top of that he will try to find commonity as he visits with

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today at vatican city, overlooking st. pete here's square. where we happen to several places right now. talk about the mood there today, what was it like? there this was really an impressive turnout, about 150,000 to 200,000 people from all over the world gathered to

st. peter's square, and when the pope appeared at the window for the fist time, there was an enormous show of enthusiasm like a rock star. and that shows us how people have warmed up to this pope even though he was only elected a couple of day ago. he said that he wants to break vatican protocol. he was holding mass at a small chapel in vatican city. he was was shaking hands, one by one, and that's pretty much unseen, it shows you how these people want to be the people's pope. >> while i was out last night, every single talked about the pope with an air of warmth, really happy, really like willing him. i'm wondering what happens on

tuesday when he gets installed, lot of preparations for that, i presume? >> on tuesday, we expect a million people to turn up. of course that's the installation mass where he will be holding the first mass from st. peter's square behind me and certainly there's a lot of preparations being made including safety and security measures, but certainly we all look forward to that day, alex. let's go to the economy now and march madness on wall street with a remarkable run. the dow finishing up for 10 of 11 days of this month, at its highest point ever. the annual spike in gas prices noted as well by president obama in the weekly address. >> we went through another spike in gas prices, just like last year, it's a serious blow do your budget, it's a hit with a new tax coming right out of your own pocket. but the only way we're going to

get rid of this tax hike for good is to shift our cars off of oil for good. >> let's talk about the three biggest areas i want to hit. first energy independence because we have heard that america is not going to need oil until 2020? >> i don't know if 2020 is true, but certainly the trend is moving in that direction and as long as we're decreasing our dependence on foreign oil and we're using our own domestic supplies especially when you're buying your oil in place where is there could be geo political hot spots. and america became the net

exporter of refined products. >> is this happening because of the natural oil finds or because of government initiatives? >> it's mostly the former. government initiatives don't have that much to do with it. actually americans and particularly drivers are conserving more than they used to. we often talk about the supply said, but there's a demand side as well. as people move towards better mileage and drive better, that's a help too. >> let's go to wall street right now, it's a three-year bull market. alan greenspan says that stocks are under valued and this is not irrational exuberance. your reactionsome. >> aye got a couple of reactions, first of all, with respect to alan greenspan, he's not very good at spotting bubbles, he's missed important

ones and others have as well, he's not alone in that. but on the other hand, if you look at some of the numbers, price earnings ratios, ways that we try to evaluate whether stocks are are above or below their average. but you have to reck nice that corporate profits have been booming and that's one of the reasons why the stock market is i guess you could say legitimately arising. >> is everyone bearing the fruits of wall street. because if i look at your blog posts from this week. is this the rich getting richer again? >> it's a bit of a trickle down through your 401(k), when the market does better, a lot of people with retirement accounts do see things improving.

but i mention profit booming, middle class incomes have been flat, so there is that income --- >> real time with bill maher was the soda discussion, it was a repate bait for the spin tax? >> it was pretty good, but the end bill maher said you're wrong and that was it. >> i think the rest of us and rachel mad doe and -- if people are ingesting too much sugar leading obesity, heart disease and diabetes, it raises the cost of medical care for everyone throughout the society. so that typically invokes some kind of a tax to disincentivize

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convention? >> a lot of people are really standing behind the winner of the straw poll, rand paul. he really has some pretty good views and while a lot of people did not agree with his filibustering for that 13 grueling hours, a lot of people liked the fact that he stood his ground. let me tell you what's doing, he is energizing the youth. and president obama is energizing that youth group. >> the problem that the republicans have is that they become a party of older white men and as lopg ng as there was gender gap, as long as the republicans take a strong view on gun control, on rape--but they have to broaden their apale, not just to racial

minorities, but the republicans somehow have to close the gender gap and they have taken such stre extreme positions on the gender gap. >> i think that rubio has probably the broadest appeal for them because he could bring some hispanics to the republican party, hispanics are culturally conservative, they are patriotic, they are entrepreneurial, because of the extreme position on immigration, they have been given the stiff arm by the republican party, but i think he has some potential appeal the man who was there, of course, christie also has some appeal, but i don know if he can ever get majority support inside the republican party. >> and jeb bush was there, he

took himself out of the straw poll, he didn't want to get there for consideration. noel, let's take a listen to donald trump from his speech on friday? >> the is 1 million illegals, even if given the right to vote, you're going to have to do what's right. but the fact is 11 million people will be voting democratic. you can be out front, you can be the spearhead, you can do whatever you want to do, but every one of those 11 million people will be voting democratic. it just the way it works. >> of course that's just nonsense. i mean i'm a democrat and i represented a lot of hispanics in congress and hispanics are natural allies for the republican party if they don't keep giving them the stiff ample on immigration. >> while i'm not going to sit up

here and defend donald trump, but i like the fact that cpac extended an invitation for donald trump to come. one of the things that i do not like is that i stood up and told this to a panel at cpac and i said that i was very disappointed that chris christie was not invited. that the go-crowd was not invite. if the republican party does not get more tolerant and get right on some things, we're going to lose a lot of people and beer not going to be able to attract people but doing thigs like this. >> we talk about the go-proudy man, i spoke with him yesterday, not only were they not invited, they were kind of ridiculed there. >> have you ever noticed that when you're gay or you're black or you're a democrat, you're called a democrat, right?

when you're a republican and you're gay or you're black, he's a gay republican, or he's a black republican. i'm for the republican party, but i am against hypocrisy, if we say that we are the grand old party, come one, come on, we need to stop labeling the people within the party. >> the question is whether the republican party is capable of doing that. obviously that's an enormous challenge for them. >> i'm sitting up here on the other side of you, and i'm on the opposite side and i'm a member of the republican party and i don like it and i am speaking out. >> so the republican parties are embracing all sorts of perspectives, so did he did

bring that up and throws it out there. >> what he does, he's giving his own opinion, he's giving what he thinks, that's fine, everyone should have an opinion. a lot of people like him, he is a conservative and he has a right to his opinion. >> donald trump is a clown and the republican need to offset that, if they're going to invite somebody like trump, obviously this group should have invited governor christie. i don't know if governor christie can win a nomination in the republican party, but you have to look at con trars and look at some pierce people who may not agree with you 100%, but at least have the chance of rallying the troops. >> when you look at the congressmen, sort of the stereotype, it's at a seeming cross road here, the issue of gay marriage, it is getting support. rand paul has showed it's not an issue of the hawks, so should

the democrats be thinking about the development of a more moderate gop? >> i don't want to go out on that. but this is a party that has run women away from them. obviously there are some women who are republicans, but the extreme position that their candidates took on the question of rape and on the question of the contraception created an enormous gender grab and if the republican party can't heal that, you can't win an election on a 10% to 15% gender gap. >> look at akin who ran in new jersey, and he lors and he should have lost. and you know what? a bunch of us republicans, since i am in the fundraising business, we actually approached someone who was in missouri and said let's let this guy run.

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an historic morning, more than 100,000 crowd in basilica square. it certainly feels like the beginning of a new era for catholics. here's what some u.s. catholics said there in rome after they attended his first mass there in rome. >> i think he's setting a great example for, just his humility and he just seems like a normal guy. >> it really just feels like the city has come alive. everybody's swarming to the square to support the pope "pope francis is different, but also a fantastic man. >> i just have to add anecdotally, with every person i

talk to, without exception, feel so very warm about this man myself included. so when you see him on the balcony at basilica square, tell me how he was received. >> he communicates such a warmth, he could be your grandfather, he's the kind of person that can connect. i think that's one of his biggest strengths, and he's playing it to the full. that's all he's done all his life was be a pastor and he's doing that now. >> he speaks off the cuff remarks. he goes to the gates and he wants to shake hands there. but i'm thinking about the church under this new leader, with this kind of attitude, do

you at all worry about a split between those who appreciate the historic, the more forming, the traditional way of doing things and this one which appears to be doing some things differently? >> i don't foresee a split by any means, alex, but i do think there's going to be some getting used to the new style. he certainly doesn't follow what was on the sheet, like this morning's mass, i saw him break away, go towards the crowd, greet everyone, stop, present his best friend. he's a priest from ecuador, called him up, called him up to the altar. and you just have to get used to that. and this is something we should highlight, he's not just a humble, franciscan type man, he's also have decisive, he

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"hubris, the ending of the iraq war." >> there's no question there was bad intelligence, there was no question the cia got some major things wrong. and there were some assumptions about behavior that weren't warranted. but then beyond that you had the twisting of the intelligence that did exist. you had the exaggerations you had the complete misuse of what happens what was available. the reliance on the shoddiest of sources, sources that wouldn't -- you and i wouldn't put on the air. because they were so shaky, and in many cases single sources

were being used by the u.s. government to justice a military invasion. it's astonishing, material that wouldn't make it through the editorial process of nbc or any other news network, big news for the most momentous of decisions. >> even from a common sense point of view, who was disturbing, what was the motivation? >> well, you know, this is one of history's riddles at this point. >> there bits and pieces one can take from the public record. there was an effort to overthrow saddam hussein, the very afternoon of 9/11 is in the mckie meeting with aids tasking them with show a link between

iran and 9/11. and there was no evidence of a link to saddam hussein, but they were determined to find them from the get-go, which made a pretty strong proposal to right the wrongs from not going to baghdad during the first world war. to redeem the good name of the first president bush and to redeem their own -- dick cheney was secretary of defense in the first gulf war. paul wolfowitz was in the first administration. all of these people believed they made a mistake, a.m. although they are loathed to admit they made a mistake about anything. and also they had made a political mistake over the clinton years that the clinton administration was soft on

national security and iraq and saddam hussein was also put on displace and they were determined to be muscular and to prove a point. so they, the architects of the iraq war were very savvy political and military -- getting rid of saddam hussein invading iraq was one of them. >> what was it that inspired you to write this movie and to do the documentary afterwards? was it one of these unanswered questions and one of the great mysteries that still remain? >> i often think that the story in it's totality is so stunning that it's such a moment in american history it really deserves to be told and retold and it deserves to continued

excavation. the people in this documentary who we personal spoke to who gave his personal opinion on this who was sitting on the stage of the veteran's foreign affa affairs -- essentially launching the opening sal voe in the campaign to go into iraq and the commander of the u.s. central command which had responsibility for iraq, who had seen all the intelligence about iraq, he tells us on camera, that he literally bolted when he heard cheney make those comments. he was in total shock, that's in general zenny's words that the vice president of the united states could be making assertions like that because he knew that it wasn't true. >> what did he do? >> general zenny spoke out

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high school football players on trial for rape. packing up, president obama preparing to leave on his first trip to israel. why now? and what's at stake? remember no drama obama? if only. now it's all drama obama. >> packing a punch, but what's cpac hope by all the attacks. and now to mars. just past 1:00 p.m. here in the east. an ohio judge handed downing the verdict today, he found two teenaged girls guilty of raping a teenaged girl apparently indocks indicated at a party. >> it is the court's decision that both of the defendantss are here adjudicated dling wents on

all three counts. for those of you who are not family with ajude indication in juvenile law, it's similar to a finding of guilty. >> it got pretty amotional for those teenagers when they realized their lives were about to change. those tears he's breaking down after he went over to apologize. but nbc's ron allen has been following this story, he joins us from stubenville. ron, it was gut wrenching for so many reasons listening to both of these boys break down, there were loud sobs in the room. >> reporter: i don't think they realized, a lot of the teenagers involved in this night of partying i don't think many of them realized that what they were doing was actually so serious, rape, a felony. if they were adults it was a charge that could have put them away for many, many years in

jail. i think when the verdict was read, the enormity of it and what it really meant hit them like a led balloon. even the victim said that she didn't realize that what actually happened to her was rape. she was violated by those boys with their hands. that's why there was so much emotion. but the sentence means that they could be in decision for the next four or five years, they also have to register at juvenile sex offenders and depending on how they deal with that punitive confinement, that could continue until after they're 21 years old. so their lives are essentially changed. in the case of malik richmond who has a very troubled past and thought he had a very bright future as a football player and that's all gone. >> when you talk about them being football players, this is a very small town, it is a

sunday, i'm curious about how this town has reacted to the guilty verdict. because the football team there rules? >> reporter: it does alex, but i think this case tweel goes beyond that because it reveals so much about the culture of teen life here in this town. there were dozens of teens out drinking one night when this happened. a lot of alcohol, no prantal supervision, there were thousands of text messages retrieved from the phones of about 17 different individuals, they were laced with profancy, all kinds of comments that were degrading to young girls and women. i think a lot of people seelg that realized that there's something really wrong in this town, there's a big problem here. not to say that other towns don't have the same problem, but i think the trial exposed that as well as well as the crime that was perpetrated on this

little girl. just moments ago about the use of social media in this crime. >> i think it's even more difficult when a victim is continually victimized in social media. and that is what has happened here. this is not just a stubenville problem. this is a nationwide problem. this is a societal problem. what's even more appalling is that crimes of a sexual nature are occurring every friday night, every saturday night across this country. we need to say enough is enough. this has to stop. this is wrong. this is immoral. >> let's get right to analyst lisa green for some legal

perspective here. so you've got the ohio attorney general saying how these crimes are immoral and wrong. but this is extraordinary with these thousands and thousands of messages between these kids. >> 17 phones were retrieved and tens of thousands of text messages and if anyone ever doubted that social media infiltrates every aspect of a criminal investigation, those doubts end today. >> this is a girl who was inebriated enough that she did pass out, although she did make a strong case for herself as a witness, but really those texts were so damming. >> the defense relied on an almost old-fashioned technique to talk to the judge, saying that the victim wasn't really trust worthy, they brought on two former friends of hers, but they were completely outmatched by the prosecution because of that sort of electronic,

forensic evidence. they had the upper hand. >> do you think that social media is what sealed those two defendants' faith? >> we just heard about the attorney general talk about the victim being revictimized and it's traumatizing to even think about all of those next day messages, the videos and the stills being circulated that next day, if not for those would we be sitting here today? >> can you believe this how teenagers seem to be completely unaware of how this can affect them still today. >> which have these powerful weapons at their disposal, a camera and they need seem to have no doubt the need to chronicle in real time what is happening and everyone from judges to parents is pleading to these kids too be more careful.

>> i do think it's appropriate and the juvenile authorities will take a look at these sentences, they each start one year for one defendant and two years for the second defendant but they could be increased over time. >> just an awful story it is, lisa green, thank you so much. for more background on the case we recommend nbc news.com. rjts let's go to politics now where there were two budgets one on capitol hill but lawmakers are still no agreement on the deficit. there was a new discussion between obama and the speakerer of the house this morning. >> we do not have an immediate debt crisis, but we all know that we have one looming and we have one looming because we have titlement programs that are not sustain nbl their current form. they're going to go bankrupt. >> how long do we have to solve our problems? >> it could be a year, two

years, three years, four years, but it's not an immediate problem. >> so you agree with the president on that. >> yes. >> republican budget author congressman paul ryan was less generous however in his take. >> to borrow a phrase from my friender skin bowls, we are the healthiest horse in the glue factory. we know it's not happening now, but lit happen. this week president obama will embark for the middle east making his first trip to israel since taking office four plus years ago. with me is peter alexander. the president is on the ground for how long over the next few days? >> reporter: he doesn't leave here until late tuesday and will be on the ground in israel for barely four hours.

he's not bringing with him any senior advisors and a new peace plan in terms of a two-state solution between the palestinians and the israelis. this makes this trip more about optics than it is approximately ticks. president obama only the fifth u.s. president to go to the state of israel. among the first things he will do after he gets off a air force one, they will roll out one of those iron dome missile defense systems, heavily furnded by the u.s. in helping israel secure itself from incoming rocket fire from gaza most recently. and on top of those, he has meetings with benjamin netanyahu, it will be hosted by mahmoud abbas. while he will visit one of the

holiey esiest sites in chrissia there will not be any visits to the western wall which plays a very big role in judaism. in addition to doing all that he really hopes to have some behind the scenes conversations with the two leaders to try to find some commonality. >> i have heard it said that the white house is seeking to lower expectations here, are you hear more of a listening tour as opposed to a policy making tour. >> that's the way it's being described. in fact a short time ago i finished up a former middle east envoy, and he explained to the symbolism and intentions going into one of these type of trips. and this is really a listening tour trying not to offend either of the parties there.

but the real statement is for the president to go on a trip like this and make statements that do support an american ally without angering some of the parties in this process. didn't he speak out for that pint at a pub last year? >> i think he did actually, and we're keeping a close eye on the white house door, and so far nothing. >> thank you very much peter alexander. there they go again, do republicans gain anything with some of the sniping at cpac? [ male announcer ] the lexus command performance sales event has begun. ♪ featuring the lexus gs and is performance lines.

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at president obama while talking about gun control during her cpac address. >> and background checks i guess to learn more about people's thinking and associations and intentions. more background checks, dandy idea, mr. president, should have started with yours. >> joining me now is christina bellanoni. and with a welcome to both of you, am i right in interpreting this, christine narks that was a birther joke by sarah palin? >> it's hard to tell what kind of a joke it was, but this isn't really new to her. in 2010 she tried to portray him as not in main stream america. this is just her throwing out to the groundhog day something that they want.

>> what is gained by this? it's a birther joke, rehashing stuff that's just not even news, i mean what's the point? what's gaped by it? >> these are activists at the end of the conference, looking for somebody to padazzle them a sbaen them. this is her trying to get the crowd riled out and that's what she has done. >> it was not her only interesting thing, dale. in fact listen to this. >> you should have seen what todd got me for christmas. well it wasn't that exciting it's a metal rack, a case, to put a rifle back on the four wheeler. and i had to get something for

him to put in the gun case, rightsome so this go around, he's got the rifle, i got the rack. >> i'm not even sure i have a question here for you, but are they not taking this seriously? because you saw the big gulp too. >> i think this is very serious. think about how far poor sarah palin has fallen from somebody who was a vice presidential nominee who people thought could one day become the president of the united states, okay, not everybody really thought that, but a lot of people actually did. now she's kind of the poor man's anne coulter, now she has to say something more shock than she did the previous time to get a reaction. >> speaking of ann colter,

governor chris christie was notably absent from cpac, but not forgeten. >> even cpac had to cut back on its speakers this year by about 300 pounds. >> why? i mean why are they going there? i mean he is part of the gop. >> yeah, chris christie is a moderate republican. he used to be very popular among the tea party crowd. it's not necessarily all tied to superstorm sandy and the praise that he had for the president right before hisry election, but this is a group of republicans that is shrinking, new england has very, very few republicans on the national stage, he's someone that still is going to be probably be re-elected very easily this fall. in the end, he's still looked at as one of the party's strong

leaders. >> dana, your call, call c parks conservatives group herity. usually cpac is a time for the movement faithful to enjoy a diet of red meat speeches that all sound the same but this time they also tasted the chumpy quin noah of self-doubt and criticism. did anything overall emerge from the convention. i wanted to give you that opportunity and test you out for that. usually it is just sort of the echo chamber of the predict blg applause lines, i actually enjoyed cpac more this year because it was -- were the consultants to blame, were they bad candidates, were they not reaching out to candidates or to the young. i think the consensus is they weren't conservative enough. that may not be the main stream

analysis of the results from last november. but there definitely was a lot of soul searching going on and a lot of recriminations which usually not what you get from the right at these kind of gathering. >> to both of you, who do you think looks like the most likely presidential candidate? was he or she potentially in the room? what do you think christina? >> they're all potentially presidential candidates. sort of like what you saw in 2008 with a lot of big players and then some players that you're not really paying attention to. there's some governors who are getting things done in their own states. you didn't hear from governor bob mcdonnell. see he's probably going to be on the national stage. the rand paul stuff is very interesting, he refers foe a different type of crowd.

at the same time he appeals to a little bit of a younger crowd and he's not necessarily -- he's a more effective communicator than his father was frankly. >> your thoughts and who would be the best candidate for the gop and who would be the best candidate for your column. >> for my column, i like the results of the cpac poll because rand paul would be terrific. imagine paul running an isolationist campaign. marco rubio who's holding his own among the conservatives, a much more plausible candidate, but christina's right, it's not completely wide open and some of the most popular figures were ones that were not on the joke and the butt of ann colter's jokes. next pitching in, the revolution on the internet that could revolutionize movie making.

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check out the scene where a hot air balloon ran right into some power lines. the operator of the balloon was not hurt. a cult tv show is headed to the big screen thanks to some impressive fundraising by fans. "veronica mars" was cancelled after one season. after turning to crowd funding sites, kick starter, $2 million was raised in less than 10 hours. in fact so far this project has paided more than $10.5 million. >> it really is a renaissance. >> to say that the fans of this

show are big-time fans, that is the understatement of the year. look what they have done. how surprising is how radically changing is this? >> it's stunning that they not only raised enough money, but they did it fast. in just a few hours, the whole movie made it's goal of $10 million. and you can see the numbers go up every few seconds. >> you have to wonder why a show that has this kind of fan enthusiasm was cancelled in the first place. >> ratings was the reason. i don't think it really cracked the top 100 shows. but i was a big fan, people who loved this show, really, really loved it. >> this is a case of social net working meeting venture financing. you heard someone there, the creator saying they paid like $10,000 for a part. it's really creative how this all gets going. >> on kick starter you can get incentives if you donate.

so for $10 you get a script of the veronica mars movie and it goes on up to being able to name a character in the movie. >> so do you think this is going to be the catalyst for more? >> i think it could be, but a lot of people who have similar projects might just wait and see. we don't know what's going to happen, we don't know if people are actually going to go see it. you would have to assume so with 54,000 backers. i think it will, like other projects will come up on kick start like this. >> and it also might have a downside because the studios might look at this and go, hmm, interesting, look how they're doing the financing. >> there are a couple of down sides and that's one, if you have a movie that you want to make that's not a sure fire blockbuster hit, the studio can say, go and raise the money yourself. and the other thing that could be not so clean, if this movie

is really successful, about the fact that the people who are investing in it aren't getting any financial return. that return, is you would guess going to the studio. >> they have gotten $3.5 million. you're saying stop because there are other places to put your money. >> i did suggest that. and some people argue with me. the movie has been green little, warner bros. said okay, it's happening and i'm a little bit concerned that i think projects like this might overtake kick starter and that website is for more people who are really starving artists to get their work made. so i pointed out a few smaller projects. $2 million is huge, a of these artists or filmmakers just want a couple thousand bucks or a little more. high stakes for president

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that's the cold truth! welcome back to weekend with alex wit, this is pope francis's first sunday mass. nbc's claudia is joining us with all the details from the vatican and in fact i have that number underestimated, there was even more in that crowd? >> the vatican office has been telling us that there was more than 150,000 that turned up in st. peter's square to see pope francis appearing at that window for the first time. loads of flags flying from all different countries and there was this huge roar erupted from st. peter's square when he appeared at that window, and that shows you how many people around the world really warmed

up to pope francis even though he was only elected a couple of days ago and he showed that he has a good communicator and he has a good sense of humor. he told the story of how he liked reading this bock of mercy that was written by his friend cardinal casper, but then he corrected himself saying that he didn't want to gim give him too much publicity but also he spent a lot of time giving out lit terj kl and political address. this morning he held a mass in santana, but even there, he broke with vatican tradition and protocall, he went out in the mass to shake hands with people who were shouting out his name and vatican security were very concerned about that. this is a pope that wants to break with tradition.

>> he brought a big smile to my face with that last part. vice president joe biden is leading a u.s. delegation heading to rome. the vice president who is catholic says the church plays an essential role in his life, he is the first catholic to serve as a u.s. vice president. president obama heading to the middle east on tuesday, he's making his first trip to israel after his first four plus years in office. a third of israelis think he is supportive of their country, but only 10% view president obama favorfully. former u.s. secretary of state, p.j., good to see you. how about the view of the israeli public that we were just talking about there, does that matter? >> it probably doesn't matter as much as it used to in prime

minister net tanyahu's trip back -- he obvious lly won re-election with a weaken coalition government that was weakening with a hard bargain over the past several weeks, but not understanding the personal tensioning between the two. the president will get off the airplane, they'll see the iron dome missile system which represents a deep cooperation that does exist between the israeli government and the u.s. government. they'll have a lot to talk about things where they disagree on the israeli-palestinian front. there's mutual concern, that being syria and iran. >> what should president obama hope to accomplish to have this trip be called a success? >> i think it's establishing a floor in each of their

relationship. each would prefer a leader of a different stripe in their office, but they're going to be together for the next two to four years, do a compelling situation right next door in syria, so they need to have a common understanding of what could happen there that could have spillover effects into israel. and sometime in the next several months, dealing with the iranian situation with respect to it's nuclear program, we have had two elections, obviously the president has been re-elected, the prime minister has been re-elected. there's still an election in iran in june, that could show how much negotiating opportunity there will be existing sometime this year. >> you have to wonder if right out of the gate, this came from martin fletcher, who said the very first question from president obama will say is

there a way to establish -- >> u.s. policy is to prevent iran from gaining a nuclear weapon. where there might be disagreement but less than perhaps existed a year ago, the real calculation is how much time before iran reaches that irreversible point. and they'll talk about that, but i still think that for both president obama and prime minister netanyahu, they'll talk about overshadowed northern affairs, but there's still some flexibility, much of 2013, to be able to try to resolve this sort of military action. >> you think sanctions might ultimately work? you think there is a chance by use of force by either the u.s. or israel against iran? >> is there a clans of use of force absolutely, sanctions are

having an affect on p iran, but there's time to negotiate. there was a high level meeting of the so-called p-5 plus 1 earlier this month. there will be a technical meeting this march. there will be another high level meeting in april. and then we'll just see if the positive tone that came out of the last meeting translates into some real negotiating. i suspect we'll probably have to wait until probably late summer, a new iranian government, some assessment by the supreme court leader as to how successful iran's going to be before we really know that answer. >> martin fletcher asks if an attack by iran against israel will be so bad that they'll regret it. >> it haslem the ability, through surrogates like hezbollah to damage u.s. interests, israeli interests,

and that reaction, i think would be expected after a 34i8 tear strike, either by the united states, israel or some combination. >> the dilemma in terms of the military option, as real as it needs to be, is that it probably makes an iranian nuclear weapon inevitable. iran has made the capability. it is negotiating for the right to have a civilian united states of nuclear energy and nuclear know how. i don't think it's made the strategic decision to weaponize that nuclear capability. but clearly in response to a u.s. military strike, that's the most likely the response by iran, they'll have a nuke dleer bomb and a survival weapon within two years. from that to a somber search for answers in pennsylvania. they're trying to figure out why a bus carrying a college

lacrosse team suddenly went off the road killing the team's pregnant coach and her unborn child and the bus driver. >> christina quigley was in her second year as coaching the lacrosse team. she was traveling to play a big game when trajs struck. >> reporter: senior officials spoke out for the first time following the deadly bus crash who claimed the women's lacrosse coach who was also pregnant. >> for christina quigley and her unborn son, the university extends its deepest sympathy to christina's family and husband. >> 23 lacrosse players and three coaches from the private catholic university were on their way to a game saturday morning at miller'sville university.

the bus driver died at the scene, 30-year-old quigley and her unborn baby died at a nearby hospital. the tragic news hit home on this close knit campus. >> when our coach told us abouta female coach, tears came to my eyes. >> reporter: police say thee passengers were seriously injured, 19 others were treated for minor injuries at nearby hospitals. the charter bus is owned and operated by mlaker transportation. the company is offering sympathy to those impacted by this accident. this is one more in a series of bus crashes in the past year. there are changes that will be phased in over the next five years. police say they'll look at road conditions and talk with witnesses to determine the exact

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the -- oh, contrary, conservative is about the only thing that the republicans have going for them. >> the gop of old has groan stale and moss covered. >> more background checks, dandy idea mr. president, we should have started with your. we're paying for someone to walk the president's dog. why are we doing that when we can't even get a disabled veteran into the white house for a white house tour. >> given the right to vote, you're going to have to do what's right, but the fact is 11 million people will be voting democratic. >> on the whole, robert, cpac, was this good or not good for the gop? >> i think it was pretty good. it was a great prep rally or all the neocons and the procons.

to be amongst your own and be among people who say it's not about us, it's about them. the question becomes is how relevant it is in political reality and that's where quite frankly a reality check comes in, someone like mitt romney who spoke who said listen, we shouldn't also learn from the past but from my mistakes. there's a combination of two things, a reality check but also a pep rally. >> angela, when you think about those at cpac and those that robert's referring to right there, aren't the more extreme ones overshadowing the more moderates? >> i think so, alex, when you look at what happened at cpac, it was more like a reality tv

demonstrate the gop's relevance to american society nowadays or the importance of real problems. whether it's gun control or immigration reform. you have donald trump talking about why we shouldn't be trying to create a legal bathway to citizenship for 11 million immigrants. instead talking about shoring up opportunities for european immigrants to come over here. it was the type of thing where you saw this background video of mitt romney 47% and they did these things in public knowing they were public. >> erin, did you see an heir apparent emerge? a snap. shot, that you think could have legs for 2016? >> certainly, rand paul's week. marco rubio and but relevant does mitt romney have? when chris christie isn't at

cing pac ac i pac and can distance himself. reaching out to racial minori minorities crashed by white sprem sifts? it's hard to say the star star thatological unite the country will come from this confront. >> okay. robert a little more sound from cpac yesterday. take a listen. >> winning, winning, winning. >> that's win, winning, winning. here's what that reminded me of. >> winning. >> winning. >> i mean, you know. you know what i'm saying, robert? was the senator from texas having a charlie sheen moment? >> you could say so, yes. i'm not sure how to answer that. no question about it, the republican party wants to win in 2016. more importantly, they want to win, we want to win in 02002014 the midterm elections. senator cruz, a bumpy road and a clash the last couple of days

with senator feinstein on gun control, rubbing republicans the wrong way. he needs to learn some rules before talking about winning on the national air. >> compared with senator rand paul's filibuster, doing the comparison of that with the alamo. how deep is the divide in the gop? >> the last couple of weeks particularly with rand paul's filibuster has shown a deep divide between the libertarian wing, new senators, the tea party and the establishment, and frankly, i mean, when you have mitch mcconnell trying to have it both ways, i don't envy them bringing everyone together. >> house speaker boehner was on abc "this week this morning," angela and went on to say that the difference between him and president obama was that he wanted to do something about the debt crisis now. if they both agree on the debt crisis, though, how realistic is it to expect them to work

together on balancing the budget? >> speaker boehner is tremendously beholden to his party. unfortunate for speaker boehner, these are folks that are not willing to compromise. we're far past the days where mitch mcconnell said he wanted to make the president a o one ---see that the president would only be a one-term president, but they're still acting like that's an option, forgetting the fact they are here to, indeed, find solutions and common ground to ensure -- compromise soar the american people can move forward in total. instead you have the rest of the party focusing on a minority outreach campaign trying to tout the same tired lines messages and policies that aren't going to work. previous announces $2 knoto go minorities. i was cooking dinner for my family.

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we are back with the big three for this week's must-read. angela, you first in d.c. what's your? >> mine is, alex, about five

charges of civil rights violations of the officers who were charged in the shooting death of gray, a 16-year-old new york teen who lost his life at the hands of are plain clothed officers just a week ago, and this is just something for us to look at, because while we are studying gun control and the impacts on community, we really must do a better job of are understanding police brutality and its rule. >> a hot button. thanks for that. robert? >> a got story on the chairman of the rnc doing outreach. time will tell whether it will be effective. good for the gop for reaching out with it's money. >> interesting on that one. erin, yours? >> in the nation, jacqueline friedman and only yes means yes in the steubenville trial. the absence of no sdp not mean consenting to sex. the legal and moral sense. >> incredible watching those two

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