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zero. go ahead with your call. >> hello? >> hi, jim. >> everybody doing all right? when he is in a room i'll just holler for him. jinkster. jinkster. jinkster. meow. jinkster. i don't know what that means but i got it from an old tarzan movie and elephants stampeded. well, when i holler it to him, his little fat ass stampedes, too. jinkster. >> he's there, jim. >> then when i give the old cat call he starts purring and stuff. what's up, little buddy? >> talk to papa. >> [ purring ] >> yeah, good boy. >> dad all right? >> he got his tail going 90 miles per hour. >> you can hear him purring real loud into it. so he might have forgot who i am but he knows the call. well, tell everyone i said hello. >> okay, honey. love you.
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>> love you jimbo. >> you all be good. say except jinkster if you're out there and you're looking at the tv screen right now, it's me you little fella? you know what that means little fella. my little fur ball buddy. hopefully i'll get out there soon. you can show me what the free world's about.
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>> did you trip over something? a prison inmate is covering up his own brutal beating.
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>> they said that he told them he didn't know if he was going to make it or not. and mcquay had stabbed him. >> at the time, mcquay was serving 20 years for sexual battery. he was sentenced to an additional 60 years after being found guilty of murdering the officer. despite the eyewitness accounts, mcquay still proclaims his innocence. >> it's been a long ride. but i maintain my balance and my mental health. >> mcquay will soon reach a milestone. his time in confinement is about to surpass the years he spent free in the outside world. >> you know how sometimes you can be in an environment like this and a person begins to see
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you as a mad dog. like, every chance you get, you're just going to lose control or you're going to snap at somebody. and that's not me. >> periodically, mcquay files requests to be moved back to general population, where he would have considerably more privileges. >> i still believe that leonard mcquay has an ulterior motive. >> the first person he needs to win over is the administrative segregation case manager, beverly gilmore. >> we're notarizing what, buddy? we all get along with leonard. very likable. very charismatic. he's so friendly. but so overly friendly. it's so fake. >> since coming to wabash, mcquay has been in incidents. >> he asked for a basketball.
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and when they went to hand the basketball, he actually come through the door and pushed his way through. and began assaulting a couple of the staff members. and several staff responded, along with myself. there was about six of us. finally, to restrain him and get him down on the ground and get him in cuffs. >> sometimes emotionalism can push you over the edge. sometimes you can regret after becoming so emotional, the things that you do. especially when you know that one action can result in a lifetime of misery. >> mcquay says he's had a spiritual awakening since converting to islam. mcquay is not the only inmate who says he's gone through a spiritual transformation since coming to prison.
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marcus murray is a self-proclaimed priest of a little-known germanic pagan religion. [ speaking foreign language ] >> it's the prechristian religion of northern europeans. hail all yee holy gods. hear me now, your son. >> the religion has proven popular among white inmates in prisons nationwide. murray says he discovered it shortly after coming to wabash 11 years earlier. he's serving a 60-year sentence for beating another man to death. and the religion, which worships nordic gods, has helped him come to grips with the murder. his thor's hammer pendant and
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his tattoo us are similar bombs of his faith. >> they're norse-oriented. viking age is a long period of viking history. >> prison officials have begun to see it as something else. a front for white supremacist gangs. members have been allowed to hold services at some prisons. but wabash has banned such gatherings. >> they are using the services to have gang meetings within the services itself. and it's been disruptive at other facilities. >> murray denies any ties to white supremacist gangs. and has filed a grievance to appeal the ban. >> it does not promote criminal elements at all. it's religion based on virtue and knowledge. >> the ban also hasn't stopped murray from recruiting new
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members. his latest, williams jones jr. >> mark has been teaching me about what the hammer means. what the different gods and goddesses are. >> jones, who also denise being a white supremacist, came to with wa been bash at age 16. >> i was strung out on drugs. and broke into a house. took a tv. and a bunch of other little items like a tattoo gun. and took them and sold them for drugs. >> the house he robbed was his father's. >> my dad called the police. he said, i strongly believe it was my son, junior. and it killed him to do it. >> jones says he would like to rebuild his relationship with his father. and will soon have a chance. he leaves prison on parole in
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one week. >> you're not enjoying the weather, are you? why would you enjoy the weather, man? you get to enjoy all that when you go home. next week. >> next thursday. >> he wants to be influenced because he's -- he's still being molded as a man. he's still a kid. and he's turning into somebody. >> delivering papers. >> that's just temporary. just long enough for me to find a real job. >> i'm glad you have aspirations. >> what the hell does that mean? coming up -- >> i got a $100 bill tattooed on my penis. >> two boyhood friends, now cellmates, find themselves at a cross roads. and later -- >> open your heart. >> leonard mcquay tries to rehab his image. i treat him with respect. but i do not trust him. getting k from identity theft. to protect you from being a victim in the first place, we have specialists for that, too.
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i recognize that i have a family out there that really needs me. been spending a lot of time away from me. can't say i've always been the best for them. matter of fact, their lives probably would have been a lot better without me in it. >> the wabash valley correctional facility is isolated among miles of corn and soybean fields in southwestern indiana. some of the state's most violent inmates are housed here. and they've been known to hurt each other. james stone has been in prison for the past 25 years for attempted murder. and he's had more than a few scrapes in that time. while some inmates have been known to create knives out of toothbrushes and anything else, several years ago, when stone was at another prison, he
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devised a more unique weapon. >> the cheese graters was leather work gloves i had. i took pads off the welding gloves. took the pads off them. dipped them in the varnish. put the pads on top of the varnish. let it dry for a minute. drip back down in the varnish. went over to a drill press where the curlicues are. i dipped in them. it looked like a metal bush on top of the gloves. then, let them dry for a minute. then, i ran them through the top layer of the varnish in the can, to keep them from breaking off. and let them dry on your hands while your hands stay balled up. once they dry, they last forever. every time you hit someone, it's like taking cheese through a cheese grater. it's not pretty. it's like making slaw.
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>> among this population of seasoned inmates like stone, are two young cellys. once boyhood friends on the outside, they now rely on each other for survival on the inside. >> we met like a different places we hung out when we was, what? >> 13. 14 maybe at the latest. maybe even 12. >> 12. >> robbie is serving six years for armed robbery and is no stranger to prison. >> i'll be 23 in a couple days. with parole violations, all together, i came to prison for five times. none have been for a long time. if i keep coming, eventually it's going to be. i don't have nobody out there. i wish i could get on my feet and get a job and live life productively. i don't want to keep coming here. he's going to help me stay out,
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though. you hear me. >> you already know. >> unlike his boyhood friend who has been in and out of prison five times, this is bradley napier's first time behind the walls. but as a juvenile, he was twice placed on house arrest. now, he's serving 16 years for burglary and criminal gang activity. >> when i earned my sentence, i was crying. at 18, getting 16 years, you know, it seemed like forever. it seemed like, oh, man. i ain't never getting out. you know? we got a good relationship. you know what i mean? we talked each other crazy. smack each other around when nobody's looking. >> it don't matter. it's always all good right afterwards. >> even though mcannalley and napier are from the same hometown, their lives in prison would make it seem like they're
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from different sides of the tracks. >> his tv is an older model. and my tv is a flat-screen they started selling. it's expensive. but it's a bigger picture. everything in here is ours. you know what i mean? it's not -- whatever's mine is his. whatever his is mine. and that's the way we live. you know what i mean? >> thanks to support from his family, napier also has more money to spend on socommissary. once a week, he loads up for himself and mcannalley. >> he eats everything. he needs to carry half of everything. robbie. robbie. damn mother [ bleep ]. why would you just grab that? >> all the commissary goes to one box. we both eat out of it. he doesn't have a lot of the things going for him that i have.
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so, it's hard for him to stay on the right path. >> one thing mcannalley does have, is an abundance of tattoos. >> this is my mom's name in the heart, honor thy mother and thy father. this is my neighborhood where i'm from. over here is money bags. some naked girls. everybody likes naked girls and money. that's just all clowns up there. there ain't too much meaning behind those. don't you have a $100 bill? >> i have a $100 bill tattoo. >> where is that at? >> that's crazy. i got a $100 bill tattooed on my penis. >> oh. what do you tell the girls about that, man? >> it's money to blow. >> the imagery an mcannalley's body tells part of the story. it's the pictures he keeps tucked away in a photo album
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that tells the rest. mcannalley hasn't seen his son in three years. he's had a contentious relationship with his son's mother. >> i came back to prison, i ain't seen him at all. it's been 26 months ago. >> napier is also the father of a young boy. 2-year-old bradley jr. >> this is what he sent me for my birthday. there was a little thing that came with it. he colored on and put stickers all over. that's my world. that's my whole life. >> like other aspects of napier's and mcannalley's friendships, the relationship to their sons are also marked by a have and have not quality. unlike mcannalley, napier enjoys visits with his child. >> not seeing my son and stuff, i don't know. >> there's reasoning behind a couple of weeks. there's no reasoning behind 26 months. >> that's just how it is. we're in two different places.
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>> while mcannalley longs for a visit with his son, markus murray has played father figure. and teaching his beliefs to williams jones jr. murray says he opens asatru will help keep him from returning to prison. >> when you're hanging out at the house and you realize you got bills to pay or something like that. and somebody comes over, and they offer an opportunity for you to you know, make a little bit of easy cash, go rob something, things go bad. things break bad. people get involved, people that weren't supposed to be there come out with shotguns and you get killed. you end up being another justin. another heartbreak i have to deal with. >> not going to die. >> i've been through this before. i had friends of mine that i've taken under my wing. youngsters that get out before i do anyway. and they get out there. and they mess up. in fact, i lost a friend about
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six years ago, justin. he got shot by a police officer in indianapolis. so, i feel like i failed him. i promise you, i will send you a card for every month you're out there. but if you come back, i will send a blanket party your way. >> i'm not coming back. >> all right. thank you. coming up, leonard mcquay gets a job and a chance to prove himself. >> now, that was to the dislike of some of my supervisors. they thought i had lost my mind. and later, markus murray lashes out when an asatru member says the wrong thing. [ female announcer ] made just a little sweeter...
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indiana. >> five times a day. it's mandatory for muslims all over the world. five times a day. >> mcquay is serving 60 years for the murder of a corrections officer at another indiana state prison 16 years earlier. since then, he's been in administrative segregation at wabash's secured confinement unit. >> my holy koran. we kiss it every day. >> mcquay says his koran has helped him grow spiritually. the other books in his cell have helped him grow physically. >> this is what i call my weight bag. every day, i do my some curls right here. i do these. i do shrugs. what they call shrugs. do these. back arms, like this. like this. this is probably about 55 or 60 pounds. >> mcquay has spent years trying
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to earn his way back into general population. but his history as a violent offender continues to haunt him. >> i basically engaged in what i consider to be an emotional response to being disrespected. >> i was warned when i came into this job, regarding offender leonard mcquay. leonard's very smart. very, very clever. he can talk a great talk. >> though caseworker beverly gilmore has raised serious questions about mcquay's trustworthiness. her goal is to give segregation inmates an opportunity to prove themselves. so shg, she recently made a controversial decision. after mcquay completed a prison life skills program, she gave him a job in the housing unit. >> i did make him a sanitation worker. now, that was to the dislike of some of my supervisors.
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they thought that i had lost my mind. i would never, they say, let him get out of his cell. and i said, let's give him a chance. i talked to leonard. i said, one time and you pass a scrap of paper to another offender, you will be without your job. and we are watching him probably more closely than we are any -- at least this miss gilmore is because i've got something to prove because i think he can do it. >> change is gauged by behavior. if you are actually changing your behavior must change. and i believe my behavior has changed. >> mcquay hopes a positive job performance will help him win his transfer and his fate will be determined at his next review, which is less than a week away. >> the bottom line is, still somebody to be treated like a human being. and if it's given to me, i'll give it. treat me like a human being. give me the respect and courtesy of a human being and not an
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>> isolated in rural southwestern indiana, the wabash valley correction at facility is more than 100 miles from a major urban center. but it has plenty of reminders of urban problems behind its walls. >> wabash valley has approximately 43 different gangs. approximately around 400 different gang members. that doesn't reflect all of our suspected members. those are all confirmed members. and we have approximately between 200 or 300 suspected gang members at this facility. >> most of the gangs are divided along racial lines. but the majority of gang members here belong to white supremacist gangs. like the ariane brotherhood. prison officials suspect that a growing religious group known as asatru might be a front for
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white supremacist gangs. markus murray, one of the leaders at wabash, denies that. >> there's never been anything in my study that says one race is more dominant over a another. or one religion over one another. asatru believers believe that our religion is fine. your religion is fine. >> guy ratcliffe, who has been practicing asatru for several years, says there is one group who is not welcome. >> if we found out that somebody in the asatru was a child molester, he would be banned from the community. he cannot participate. it's a bylaw. you cannot be a sex offender and be in asatru. >> ratcliffe, who uses another accepted pronunciation of the group's name, defended the fact that some members have swastikas have tattoos on their bodies. >> the swastika was around long before adolf hitler come along.
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okay? now, i don't have nothing against uncle aadolf. but he took a sun wheel and made it part of his party. it goes back to ancient civilizations. they had a swastika in persia, way before national socialism came along. >> while ratcliffe defended asatru, his comments disturbed murray, who let him know how much when he returned to his cell. >> you just made us look like a bunch of [ bleep ]. >> damn it. i tried to talk about this with you. i swear i did. sorry, markus. i [ bleep ] up, bud. i'm sorry. i apologize. damn it. try not to get mad at me, man. >> kind of hard not to. you sank my boat. >> later, we told murray we recorded his exchange with ratcliffe and asked him to
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explain it. >> i was a little mad. i mean, he didn't mean -- he didn't mean any harm. he just ignorant of the conduction of leadership roles. and i think now that he has seen, you know, that it upset me and knows that it's not really how we do business, i think he's changed his point of view. >> murray hopes to also change the point of view with prison officials. he will have a meeting with administrators, to appeal their ban on asatru members. and have it move from the list of security threat groups. robbie mcannalley faces a different challenge. he not only feels isolated from his young son. but from his boyhood friend, who just happens to be his cellmate. >> my celly is a great dude. i love him. i've known him for years.
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even before we came to prison. but i got my problems that i ain't seen my son in two years. and he gets to tripping acting like i know how i'm feeling. when he doesn't see his son for a week, he gets visits every week. everything that's possible to get in here, he's got it. and i'm in here [ bleep ] up. >> mcannalley, serving six years for armed robbery, wears his frustration in prison ink. >> that says vengeance because i've had a lot of wrong done to me. i've been hurt a lot. and i seek revenge for that. i have a lot of animosity built up when i got it. i'm hoping i can let things go for my sake and my son's sake. and ain't worth coming back to prison over. >> he points to another tattoo as the source of his frustration. >> the mother of my child. i'm kind of mad at her that she's not -- she's holding my
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son from me. >> but that could be changing. a recent letter and her submission of a visitation request are indications that she's planning to bring mcannalley's son to see him. >> this ain't the first time she's said he's going to come visit. she's going to let me be in his life. and she falls off again. i'm not going to get my hopes up. last time i seen him, he couldn't walk at all. he couldn't talk. i can't wait to see him. >> while mcannalley clings to the hope that the visit will take place, his cellmate, brad napier, is enjoying one of his regular visits with his 2-year-old son, brad jr. and his son's mother, jessica. >> score a touchdown. >> say touchdown. >> touchdown. >> bradley talks about his dad all the time. when we pull up and he sees that guard tower, daddy's house. like inside, you're like, great. he sees a guard tower and razor wires and thinks of his dad. in another sense, it's like, that is his dad's house.
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and he's excited to see him. >> this type of one-on-one between an inmate and his child is rare in most maximum security prisons. where visits typically take place in a large common area, choked with noise and distractions. but napier's session is in a private play room. it's part of the prison's fatherhood program. >> the fatherhood program is great, man, because i get to spend a lot more time with my son. i get to come in this visitor room. and in this visitor room, everything's great. it's one-on-one. me and him, running around here, playing ball. >> the monthly visits are carefully monitored by the program's coordinator, joshua cullens. >> they have a responsibility is what we're trying to teach them. even though they're in prison, they doesn't give them a cop-out not to be a dad. >> oh, my god. >> you're okay, buddy. get up. >> come on. he hit his head. let me kiss it. let daddy kiss it.
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kiss it. >> you'll be all right, boy. >> i'm beast mode. >> no. >> you're all right. >> nice to see you, mr. napier. >> following each visit, napier undergoes a review. >> let's talk about bradley crying. >> i think you know when he starts crying, i tell him, bradley, get up, you're fine. he's raised by a whole bunch of women. you know? and little boys raised by a whole bunch of women get babied. and i don't want my son to grow up getting babied all the time. i want him to have toughness about him. the world's tough. you know what i mean? get up. you have to go on anyway. >> i understand where you're coming from. i want to give you a suggestion. it's okay for him to cry. it's okay for you to say that he's okay. and then, address the situation and move on. it kind of seemed that some of your patterns came from just okay, quick fix.
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let him on to something else so he stops what he's doing. it's okay to acknowledge why he's crying and move on from that. you understand what i'm saying? >> okay. >> appreciate you coming in. >> thank you, mr. cullens. >> no problem. >> i like to hear insight on what people think about how i am as a father. i'm going to give it some thought about it. you know? but i know how to be a father. i've done good with it. you know? coming up -- william jones says good-bye to his mentor. and hello to life on the outside. and leonard mcquay argues for a transfer out of confinement. oceans, and lagoons in the place we call home. bold is where everyone comes to play. starting our day off with a good dance and singing us to sleep at night. coloring our lives in ways only bold can do. it's no wonder bold will make your reality,
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you know? >> as the pre-dawn darkness hangs over indiana's wabash valley correctional facility, most of the 2,200 convicted felons housed here, are treated as one more routine day of incarceration. but not williams jones jr. today, after three years, he's going home. >> how you feel today? >> nervous. i'm happy to leave. but it sucks to have to leave people in here. >> the one inmate he most hates to leave behind, is his close friend and spiritual mentor, markus murray, who is serving 60 years for murder. >> what's up, man? >> it's going to be hard, dude. >> you're going to miss me. >> not going to miss you. >> oh, man. man. be cool, man. >> all right.
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>> while jones spends his final moments in prison, just outside the walls, his older brother, casey and casey's family, arrive to pick him up. >> me and my brother are pretty close. i'm glad i get to pick him up and not leave him here. i've been up here eight different times and had to leave him here. it was hard. >> have a good one. >> appreciate it. >> good luck. stay out of here. >> all right. see ya. good luck, man. >> feels different. i guess there's nothing like walking out of prison, i guess. >> all right. >> being in jail is not real cool. i don't like it. >> in there. >> what's your name? >> jones. thank you.
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>> get your property. and we'll escort you out here. >> releasing one from gate two. let's go. be right with you, ma'am. >> come on, billy. run to me. >> don't come back. >> that's it. >> don't want to see you anymore. >> i ain't coming back. >> put that on your head. >> good to have you home. >> it's good to be back. >> let me do the honors. >> them. >> cigarettes in the car. >> can't have them right now. >> a hug. >> taking a picture. >> i don't care. >> oh, man, finally. >> all right. >> all right. everybody in.
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>> while jones savors his first moments of freedom, in wabash, leonard mcquay fights for a different kind of freedom. he has a review hearing with his case manager to determine if he's ready to be released back into general population from administrative segregation, the only world he's known for the past 16 years. >> you going all the way out with it, ain't you? dog leash and all. >> the prospect of mcquay, the killer of a corrections officer, being released back into general population, naturally has some staff on-edge. >> offender mcquay, he comes off as a very well-spoken, polite individual. that being said, he does have the conduct history, the assault on staff. the murder charge of a staff member from a previous facility. so, even though he does come
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across as a polite individual, you have to keep that in mind when you're dealing with him. >> he's so evil. they so barbaric. putting them chains on that guy like that. >> i do not trust him. i treat him with respect. but i do not trust him. >> the last time mcquay had a review with his case manager, beverly gilmore, she approved his request for a job. he hopes he can persuade her that he's ready for general population. >> hello, mr. mcquay. how are you? >> i'm all right, miss g. how you be? >> i got my presentation for my review. >> mr. mcquay what makes you a good candidate for release from administrative segregation into the offender general population? >> i've engaged in rehabilitation that has allowed me to take a retrospective look,
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not only at my past, violent behavior, and my new, more humbled progressive behavior. and i believe that i've made some significant strides in my social relationship with staff. >> all right. leonard, you talk a mighty fine talk. however, how are we to be assured that you actually have soaked this in and believe it down into the bone marrow? >> i'm asking you, miss gilmore, and i'm asking the administration here to open your hearts and look at me as a human being who has made some terrible mistakes, who has come back from the grave. i'm a new man. and the only way this new man can shine is that you give me the opportunity. please, give me a chance. that's all i need. i won't let them down, miss
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gilmore. >> i will summarize that in a statement. thank you, mr. mcquay. >> they have reason to be concerned because of, you know, prior incidents. you know, associated with me. the only way they can see i'm not only a changed man but i'm ready to do something different with my life is to let me have an opportunity. i haven't had a chance. and that's what i'm hoping for. coming up, markus murray defends asatru. >> you have a salute. like a lot of white supremacists do. >> no, sir. and a decision is handed down on leonard mcquay. neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history...
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the picture was, too. there's the day he was born. i don't know. [ bleep ]. >> robbie mcannalley has been in prison a little more than two years. in all that time, he hasn't had a single visit with his 3-year-old son. recent contact with the child's mother had given him hope that a visit might be imminent. but now, the child's mother, represented in a tattoo on mcannalley's arm, has changed her plans. >> she's been talking about for the past 2 1/2 months now. i'm going to bring trey down there. i'm going to bring trey down there. now, all of a sudden, she's too busy. i think i'm going to turn her into a clown. >> don't do that. >> i will turn her into a clown. >> you love that girl over there. >> i love her. but she ain't worth a [ bleep ]. >> you just talk [ bleep ]. >> she ain't worth a [ bleep ]. >> later, mcannalley revealed one possible reason why the mother of his child has not
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followed through on visits. he said it was an incident that happened before he returned to prison. something he rarely talks about. >> it was a domestic battery. and i haven't seen him since then, which was -- yeah. that's the last time i seen him was the night that that happened. >> mcannalley can only accept the consequences of his actions and do little to control developments with those he's left behind on the outside. but today, markus murray is hoping to make a big change on the inside. >> how are you doing? >> he filed a grievance to have asatru removed from a list of security threat groups or gangs. today, security threat group coordinator and superintendent jack hendricks have granted murray a hearing on the matter. >> if you saw someone coming into your community or into your services with ill will or intent
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to participate in a security-threatened activity, what would your take on that be? >> i would tell them to go back from wence they came. there's no reason to bring ill will for the hall. if one person is sick in the group, we're all sick. if you're in the community, you have a say so. if it's anything that's kind of controversial, it does get voted on. >> can you elaborate on that a little bit? >> let's say somebody had a new idea for how we salute each other or something like that. >> you say salute. are you talking about greeting someone? >> like particular handshakes or something. as a fraternity. like to set themselves apart. >> you stated that you and your community have a greeting that you refer to as a salute. can you show me what that refers to? >> no. i never said that. >> no. >> well, you mean, like we

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