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this morning supporters for and against california's proposition 8 are rallying outside the court. let's get a baseline. right now nine states and washington, d.c., allow same-sex marriage. 30 states ban it with a constitutional amendment. 8 more states ban it by statute. this case may or may not have implications for the entire country. if the court upholds prop 8, each state would be free to make its own decision. they could ban or allow same-sex marriage. if the court strikes it down and rules there is a fundamental right to marriage, those 38 state bans on same-sex marriage could go away. but it gets a little more confusing because the court could also rule the supporters of this didn't have the standing to appeal it, and then the ruling would only apply to california. here's a preview of the arguments that are likely to be made inside that courtroom in just a few minutes. >> the proponents of proposition 8 still haven't been able to

come up with an argument as to why for all the good things about marriage, we need to keep people out who want to get married. >> the marriage between two men and two women are not the same thing as the marriage between a man and a woman. only a marriage between a man and a woman can connect the mother to the father and the parents to the children. >> this is a decision with not just legal, but moral and religious implications. just in the last 24 hours, three more senators have voiced their support for same-sex marriage. mark warner, jay rockefeller, and senator mark begich. 58% support same-sex marriage. i want to bring in ryan, washington bureau chief of t"th washington post." we've talked about how attitudes have changed. you look at the polls and the politicians. do you have a sense -- what do

you think, ryan? why is this all happening now? >> why did everything move so quickly? >> why the sea change? yeah. >> i think actually, karl rove ironically deserves a lot of the credit for it. in 2004, the republican party put a bunch of anti-gay marriage issues on different state ballots to drive out evangelical voters. what it did is it took an issue that had not necessarily been partisan before and turned it into a deeply part son one. that meant that democrats now had to decide whether they were against gay marriage, for gay marriage, for civil unions, against civil unions. as soon as you make the democratic party decide on a civil rights issue, they will shift eventually -- it's going to take some time, but they will eventually get there. what you saw is rapidly over the next several years, the democratic party moved in favor of gay marriage. once gay marriage then became legalized in different states,

people went to weddings, people bought gifts, people's relatives and friends started getting married, and they saw that the institution of marriage wasn't any better or worse than it was before this happened. the sky didn't fall, and now you're seeing the polls surge as a result. >> jonathan, how much of this do you think is the human factor? for example, rob portman did it because of his son, and we heard from bill clinton talking about the fact he has someone he cares deeply about it. how much of this is an emotional shift? >> i think there's a serious emotional shift. what you've seen is wraashingto is following the country. you've seen a huge change in public support for gay marriage. it's up to 58%. it depends where you live in a lot of cases as to whether the place you live is a place that

has majority support. i think what you're seeing is the political class is much more aware now of friends, family members, who are gay or who are supporters of gay marriage, whether or not they're lesbian, gay, transgender, or bisexual. i think there's a social movement going on. the supreme court historically has taken up issues when it becomes necessary to make a decision because of sort of cultural shift on the landscape. that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to rule in favor of gay marriage, but it's something they think they clearly need to make some sort of statement on. >> we heard yesterday, i think, from the cousin of justice roberts, who basically said i think he will end up doing the right thing. i don't know, ryan. do you think that public sentiment is weighing on the justice ins this case? >> yes. the supreme court justices, perhaps more than anybody except for presidents, care more about history and legacy than anything else.

and they know that this arc bends one direction. this thing is not going backwards. let's say that they were -- that they voted 5-4 and kept gay marriage illegal for another couple years. they know that it's just a matter of time until it's eventually going to bend toward the direction of freedom here. why would they want their names to be associated with a supreme court opinion that 50 years from now would look at it derisively as bigoted. so they see where it's going. i don't know that applies to alito necessarily or scalia or thomas, but kennedy and roberts have a big sense of their place in history. i think you're going to get at least a 6-3 verdict here. >> i want to bring in martha coakley, massachusetts attorney general. she's argued the case in front of the supreme court and filed briefs in support of same-sex marriage for both today's case

with prop 8 and the defense of marriage act, which you'll hear about tomorrow. in your brief, you write "prop 8 discriminates against gays and lesbians and their families." if you're talking about just from a legal standpoint, is that the best argument against prop 8? >> it's one of them certainly, and we know better in massachusetts, having had same-sex marriage since 2004, challenging doma, those arguments are tomorrow. but our amicus brief points out why it's not fair. the sankity of marriage, the institution that helps every family, including children, which gives that kind of stability that everyone says is so important in marriage. >> it's going to be interesting to see who's actually in there. we've seen people lined up for days who want to be part of this historic argument. you've been in that courtroom. if you were in there right now, what would you be looking for? >> certainly the questions are important, not only to the litigants but more importantly

to each other, what the justices say and comment on. today's arguments will be very different from tomorrow's, given the issues. i think we're confident tomorrow that the judges will be able to say there's no rational basis for a defense of marriage act. there's no reason why, particularly for a state like massachusetts or new york, which is the case before it, that people shouldn't be treated the same, that families shouldn't be treated the same, federal benefits shouldn't be given to same-sex marriages as they are to opposite sex marriages. the tenor of questioning today and tomorrow will be a little bit different, but today will be some clue as to where they are headed on the issue. i do think, and i'm hopeful, that these judges do want to be on the right side of history. i think that argument is moving in only one direction. >> the cover of "time" magazine says he's the decider, and this is a picture of justice kennedy. but we know that justice roberts was the deciding factor on health care last year that surprised everybody. he has a lesbian cousin in the courtroom.

also, many feel the court got ahead of itself on roe v. wade as echoed by justice ginsburg. >> i think you can't take justice ginsburg's comments too far. i think she was commenting historically what happened after roe v. wade. i think this is a different decision. if you look at anybody under 30, for instance, who can't understand why this is before the supreme court, opposition to this is aging out and very quickly. it's astounding how quickly public opinion has changed on this. i think that the justices will understand that, that this is providing the fairness and dignity to same-sex marriage that doesn't interfere with anybody else's rights in the country. we've shown that in massachusetts. >> for people who are supportive of lgbt rights, is one of these more important than the other, today's or tomorrow's, or are they linked? >> i think they are linked in

some respects. i think it's more obvious that doma should be struck down or the court will strike doma down. we're hopeful the court will extend rights in california, at least not set them back. it would be hard for the court to be too far out on public opinion in this instance, given the rate and the type of change that's happening around this fairness issue for same-sex couples. i'm confident that ultimately both cases will put us further down the road to marriage equality. just how far, i think we'll have to wait and see until the end of june. >> massachusetts attorney general martha coakley, thank you for coming on the program. we have two things we've been talking. one is the legal aspects. of course, the other is at the heart of prop 8, our two couples. before they went into the courtroom, they went before the cameras. let me play for you a few clips of what they had to say. >> jeff and i long to be married and start a family of our own and have the equal rights that

are guaranteed to all americans that are in loving and committed relationships. >> sandy and i look forward to a day when we can celebrate our marriage with our four children and all of the children in california and across the country can feel included and as good as everybody else. >> that sort of summarizes it. jonathan, there's an interesting piece on your site today that asks the question, can gay marriage survive a scotus loss? can it or is the ability there, as all three of you seem to be indicating? >> i can't predict what's going to happen with the law over history, but i would say, if public opinion moves far enough, there's certainly a political solution to override what the supreme court says on most issues, and basically, if you get all the way to the point of a constitutional amendment protecting the right of gay marriage at some point in the distant future. so it appears that everything is moving politically in that direction. if the justices don't move

there, then the politicians at some point will. >> it is interesting to watch, ryan, as the politicians have been moving in that direction. and even comments that we could have a republican who was to nominate the president who supports gay marriage. is it going to be sort of out of the conversation two, three years from now? >> i think republicans would like to see it out of the conversation. it's no longer to their benefit, which is ironic since they're the ones that pushed it forward in 2004. to pick up on something that martha coakley said, it's not just that people are aging out, but as she said, people are changing their minds. it's very hard in survey data to find people actually changing their minds because nobody wants to admit they were ever on the other side of an issue. we ran a survey through ugov,

and people were actually willing to admit they changed their mind. a significant percentage of people used to oppose gay marriage and were willing to admit, you know what, i changed my mind, and now i support it. we found almost nobody saying it the other way around. in other words, nobody used to support gay marriage but now all of a sudden doesn't. so that's another reason that this thing can't get put back in the bottle. >> ryan grim, jonathan allen, thanks to both of you. >> take care, chris. amanda knox, the american college student who was the international focus of a murder trial in italy, has hit a minor setback. the italian supreme court ruled she should stand trial again. she and her boyfriend rafael solecito were both convicted of the murder of her british roommate meredith kircher. knox calls today's development

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today three republican senators -- rand paul, ted cruz, and mike lee -- are setting up a new and potentially major roadblock for gun control legislation. politico reports they plan to hand a letter to senate majority leader harry reid's office that says, "we will oppose the motion to proceed to any legislation that will serve as a vehicle for any additional gun restrictions." the move comes just a day after the white house said president obama is still pushing for a vote on banning assault weapons despite senator reid's decision to exclude the ban from comprehensive gun control. and this morning democratic congressman elijah cummings said the stakes couldn't be higher. >> i keep telling folks this is a transformational moment. when sandy hook took place, i can't think of too much that should cause people to say,

look, we cannot continue to go down this road without making a difference. >> joining me now is neil he heslip. his son jesse was killed at sandy hook. this goes beyond just scrapping an assault weapons ban. it's really a veiled threat to filibuster any new gun control legislation. if they were sitting here, what would you say to these three senators? >> i feel it deserves at least a vote. i'm really upset and disturbed that it hasn't gotten that respect from congress. what happened at sandy hook is something that's not going to go away. there has to be stricter gun regulations and control anthony

what there is now. i keep asking myself over and over again, how could someone go into an elementary school at sandy hook and get a weapon of that type and create a crime to the magnitude that caused the devastation that was caused? i just can't believe there's congressmen out there that can't recognize there's changes that need to be taken. >> you said and to me, when we were talking before on the break, you were not someone who was politically active or followed the minutia of what was going on in congress, and then the next thing you know, you're in the middle of this. we saw you with vice president biden and mayor bloomberg last week for a news conference on gun reform. after being there, after seeing how things work in washington, after talking to the mayor and

the vice president, given the political realities, how optimistic are you that things will change? >> i hope they will change. i realize it's a long battle, it's going to be a long battle and a long journey, but i'm confident in time there will be changes that are effective. >> are there people who oppose this legislation who will come to you and explain why? >> to be totally honest with you, i haven't had anybody come to me and explain why they object to it or they're not in favor of stricter gun regulations and bans on the assault weapons. all i've heard is the second amendment, the second amendment. it's not about the second amendment, it's about saving children's lives and innocent people's lives.

>> in the days after the shooting, i talked to a lot of gun control advocates, including some that i knew from columbine and who had been working on this issue since then, and one of their concerns then back in december is that america has a short memory, they said, and that they felt like there was a window of opportunity when this was fresh in people's minds, when something could get done, and there was a new poll out this morning that showed that backing for stricter gun control went to 47%, 10% drop since december. are you worried that a window of opportunity is closing? >> no, i'm not. i'm going to continue to push stronger gun control. as i said, in due time, it will happen. it's not going to happen overnight.

i'm ashamed that congress won't even give these children the courtesy to vote on stronger gun measures and control. i'm not real proud of what i see in congress from a lot of people, a lot of congressmen. >> you should be proud of what you're doing for jesse, and i don't want to let you leave without telling us a little bit about him because you did say that one of the parts of this journey is that you do want to be able to do is to talk about your son. >> it's not easy for me to come here and go to congress and speak about jesse. it's just a continuous wound that's not healing. it's rewarding to speak of the fond memories of the times we had together. but not under these circumstances and not as i am

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to politics now where michelle bachmann's congressional campaign is under investigation. it has to do with improper payments to campaign staff. bachmann's lawyer says there are no allegations she did anything wrong. nbc news has confirmed south carolina senator tim johnson won't seek re-election in 2014. the democrat made a strong recovery after suffering bleeding in his brain several years ago. he is 66.

new jersey governor chris christie's weight isn't an issue. 64% of new jersey voters are comfortable with an overweight candidate. general david petraeus makes his return to the public light tonight. he is making a speech at an event honoring veterans and rotc cadets at the university of southern california. kwo according to "the new york times," he will say "i am also keenly aware that the reason for my recent journey was my own doing. so please allow me to begin my remarks this evening by reiterating how deeply i regret and apologize for the circumstances that led me to resign from the cia and cause such pain for my family, friends, and supporters." the president welcomed friends to a private passover seder at the white house last night. a new addition this year, a seder plate he picked up on a visit to israel. and secretary of state john kerry showing off soccer skills with the captain of the afghan women's national soccer team. nothing like a header for a little diplomatic relations.

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news" that republicans have found the right tone for their message going forward, saying, "i have been encouraged that the last several weeks have demonstrated that there is a great deal we can do to turn things around. if you look at the vote on filibuster, on drone strikes, and the vote on defunding obama care for three weeks in a row, republicans have stood together for principle." let's bring in democratic strategist jamal simmons and former senior adviser to george bush, robert trainer. jamal, is senator cruz right? have republicans started to turn things around? >> no, i don't think they have. the problem with senator cruz is he's like me, when my shirts are getting a little too tight, i think they must be shrinking them in the dry cleaner. it's not the dry cleaner. it's not the shirt. it's me. i'm eating too much. republicans have to change their behavior in the same way. they've got to get back into shape. what they're doing is looking for all kinds of outside reasons why they're not being able to

sell. the reality is republican policy is republican politics. they've got to decide, are they going to cater to the small narrow base inside republican congressional districts or the big broad base who voted for -- 5 million americans voted for the president of the united states. we increased the number of senators in the united states. gerrymandering kept the republicans in charge, but they've got to decide what they want to be. a nationally based party or a congressionally based party? >> i don't know if you saw mark thiessen's article in "the washington post." he said the republicans need to be more like mark francis. it's not about the family, and abortion, this is about the perception of the rich. "if republicans want to change that impression, there is a simple solution. be more like pope francis, the defender of the unborn and the poor." what do you think about that? >> i think he's right. let me go back and say, jamal, i

think your shirt looks pretty good. >> appreciate that. >> but look, if you take a look at the thesis of what he said a few moments ago in "the washington post." he's right. pope francis isn't changing his beliefs, but he is changing the perception, in materials of how the catholic church is perceived. he does things that appear to be nice. he seems to be sincere. he's reaching out to people who, quite frankly, have never been reached out to, and that's exactly what the republican party needs to do. senator cruz is partially right. the republican party is making small baby steps in a right direction. you have to admit the republicans have done a good job of standing firm on government spending. however, the perception is they don't care about people that look like jamal and myself. the perception is they don't care about people like myself who's glbt. the real issue is they have to act like they care, and thus in the process have to reach out to people that are very, very skeptical baseded on last year's presidential elections.

>> based on last year's election, where romney made the 47% comment and then also said this. >> i'm in this race because i care about americans. i'm not concerned with the very poor. we have a safety net there. if it needs repair, i'll fix it. i'm not concerned about the very rich. they're doing just fine. >> jamal, look, mitt romney, and i think the rest of the republican party knows what those kinds of comments meant to the presidential race. when you look out, though, at that early 2016 field of republican fairs, who do you think could give democrats a run for their money? >> i think any of them could if they make it through the primary without getting so completely pulled to the right they can't compete in a general election. here's the warning shot for democrats. we get too excited about the demographics and the republican in-fighting, the reality is the democrats in the 1980s were very similar to republicans. we were catering inform a smato

more narrow part of the demographic. but bill clinton made it through the primaries and stuck to a middle of the road belief to be stronger on defense and more fiscally responsible and better on crime, and the country gave democrats a little more political credibility. a good republican candidate can change this for the republican party, but they have to let him get through the primary and compete in a general election. >> obviously, we're talking on a very consequential day with the supreme court today and tomorrow, and people making the argument we could have a nominee in the republican party who supports gay marriage. can someone who holds those kinds of positions get through the primary process? to jamal's point. >> yes. in 2012, the answer probably would have been no. but in 2016 based on the lessons we've learned in 2012, i think that possibly could happen. i point to the comments that

rand priebus said, even though the republican party is for traditional marriage, that doesn't mean our candidates can't have differing views. when you take a look at how more young people, quite frankly, have a libertarian streak, when it comes to smaller government, and could care less who i sleep with and who you sleep with, the republican candidate in 2016 could get through the primary. >> robert and jamal, thank you. i think you both look good in your shirts. check on the news feed this morning. north korea has said it's placed all of its missile and artillery units on highest alert, ordering them to be ready to hit south korea as well as the u.s. and its military installation ins hawaii and guam. tensions on the korean peninsula have risen since the launching of a third rocket in december

and its third nuclear test last month. several thousand students took to the streets in cyprus to protest the terms of the country's bailout package. cyprus leaders clinched a last minute $13 billion deal with erowzone nations and the monetary fund. the country's banks will remain closed for two more days as they struggle to come up with a plan to raise the money to secure the deal. pedro quezada's luck has turned around in a very big day. the bodega owner in passaic, new jersey, hit the lotto jackpot. he's from the dominican republic, father of five. two years ago thieves broke into their apartment and destroyed everything. about a year before that, fire destroyed most of the bodega. quezada says he plans to help his family with the money. he can certainly do that. wait until you see the new survey on moms, working moms and stay at home moms.

what can be done to ease the tension in the mommy wars coming up in ten minutes. a british high school student is screaming yahoo this morning. cnbc's jackie deangelis is here with what's moving your money. he's 17 years old, and he's rich. >> it's a fascinating story. his name is nick delozio. he wasn't even born when yahoo was founded in 1994, just 17 years old. reports suggest that summly, his news reading app, was purchased by yahoo for roughly $30 million. his app condensing content so that readers can scroll through more information quickly on smaller screens of smartphones. nick is the largest shareholder, but the company was backed by pretty big names. investors include wendy murdoch, ashton kutcher, and yoko ono. one of the most important investors is li ka-ying, one of

the earliest investors. so not only is this kid a whiz kid, he's bright but he's rich too. >> and he's not old enough to toast with champagne, maybe a soft drink or too. >> maybe a little illegal for him to pop the champagne cork now, but the report i want to talk to shows he and other americans drinking less soda. beverage digest says consumption of soda fell by 1.2% to its lowest level since 1996. the consumption would have been the lowest if not for the energy drinks. >> jackie, thank you. a new report shows being an ex-president is an expensive job. the nonpartisan congressional research service says the government spent almost $3.7 million on four former presidents last year. the cheapest, jimmy carter. he cost $500,000. bush 41, george h.w. bush, was

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fascinating new in depth report released just this morning. it has a disheartening conclusion. the mommy wars are alive and well. the survey conducted for "more" magazine shows 90% of respondents say there is resentment between stay at home and working moms. 54% of working moms say a stay at home mom has made them feel bad at least once about working full-time. 47% of stay at home moms say they felt taken advantage of by a working mom. let's bring in my panel. editor in chief of "more" magazine, leslie jane seymour, chief correspondent for i-village, and karen, who recently made the decision to stay at home to raise her

2-year-old daughter. it's good to see all of you. really, leslie? i thought it was over with. >> are we going to start pulling hair now? >> i have to say i thought it was over. when i moved to the suburbs 17 years ago i clocked this because there was so much resentment. i was sort of working, but i was on maternity leave, and i thought it had all gone away. my kids have grown up. indeed, what i found out is talking to my staff, the younger women are having babies in their 40s, and they're like, no, this thing is still going on. like, oh, my god, we've got to put an end to it. we went to our women's group at citibank, and we did a great survey of all people across america, and we included the men. >> i'm going to get to the men because that's really something else. >> uh-huh. >> i have to read you part of this survey. working moms say the most annoying things about stay at home moms are they can be over involved in their children's lives. their sense of superiority for their choice to stay at home. and they revert to acting like they're still in junior high. >> okay.

i'm a working mom. i have never said any of those things. >> we knew that was you. >> i think what is in here, which i love the survey in that respect, is the insecurity. i'm a working mom. i feel insecure sometimes. i look at the stay at home moms and think, they're going to be picking up their daughters from soccer camp today and have the moments i don't have. >> she must care more about her children. >> absolutely. >> you're a better mom than i am. >> i have to say that, before i had children, if you ever asked me if i'd stay at home, i would say with absolute certainty i'd always be a working mom. i chose to actually run back to work after maternity leave. i really -- i did not love the baby phase. i really looked forward to going back to work. it wasn't until i had this opportunity to tap into this mom community that i saw that being a stay at home mom, it does not mean -- there are tons of women at home with their kids who are

very interested in having career and are very smart and had really successful, important jobs, and just chose at this point in their life to do something different. >> do you feel the resentment though, sometimes? >> i have to say -- >> or do you resent? >> i wouldn't use the word resent. i would say that, when i'm home doing my stay at home mom thing, if i'm running an errand with my daughter, and i see women dressed up looking -- they brush their hair. they put on makeup, and they're walking to the subway, is there a sense -- if anything, i would say that i'm maybe a little bit envious of that part. if only we could all do it all and have a piece of both worlds. >>s that the problem. >> i don't know if there's a strong sense of tension. >> can i tell you what stay at home moms say is the most annoying things about moms? they use the excuse they have to work in to avoid being involved in their children's lives. someone else is raising their children. and they think stay at home moms, leslie, are lazy. >> we're just awful, aren't we? >> aren't we?

we just dump our children on somebody else and let them take care. we'll let you take care of all our children. what's the point? >> i think that it's really difficult regardless of what path you choose, and i think it's important to understand it's not black and white. just because some women choose to work at certain points in their kids' lives doesn't mean they won't be home during that time and spend quality time another time. >> we've all heard the resentment. whether you have children or not, people our age talk, and sometimes they do get, whether resentful is the word or angry or they feel used or they are sometimes judgmental. how do we get beyond it? >> we have to, i think, having conversations like this, embracing. there has been so much discussion about women in career with sheryl sandberg's book "lean in," marisa mayer's decision at yahoo to stop working at home.

>> can we talk about the men? >> they're making us feel so insecure. >> the men who spoke up say stay at home moms are better mothers by a ratio of seven to one. they say they make better role models two to one. and by six to one, they say they have better behaved children. >> and then -- >> really? >> how are you going to pack that into your briefcase every morning when you go off to work as a working mom? that is part of the shifting ground that makes working moms feel insecure. if he secretly believes that, then he's not completely confident, you feel it. and that tension gets taken out. >> on the flip side too, the men who said looking at working moms, they respected them more. they work harder. so what does that say to a stay at home mom? men, hello, can you get with the times here. >> it's all their fault, chris. >> so that's sort of it. i feel like that contributes to this social stigma that, while

stay at home moms, they may be better moms, but they don't warrant the same sort of respect as the woman who chooses to have a career. it definitely makes it that much more complicated, and it definitely fuels the fire and definitely contributes to any sort of tension that does exist. >> i'm just going to say, in the '70s, we thought we were moving beyond this. are we really moving beyond this? >> i think having the conversation, it's an interesting moment this spring where women are talking about all their roles and everything, and i'm hoping finally we might get the conversation out there enough. i think what's really surprising is we all need to go home. talk to that man tonight, girlfriend. they're causing a lot of the conflict. >> and be very aware of in how you're raising your sons as well as your daughters. leslie jane seymour, kelly wallace, cara, fantastic conversation. thanks for letting us use the survey. today's tweet comes from amanda

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president obama is back in the game as we head into the nak sweet 16 this thursday. after a rocky start in the first round, the president is doing better than about 70% of the country according to "usa today." he correctly picked 11 of the sweet 16 teams, and all of his final four teams are still in the running. so we got to thinking. what does a politician's bracket say about the way they think? richard lui here with the drill down. march madness style. >> we couldn't help but do it, chris. good morning to you. bracket choices are a window into one's politics. president obama and senator marco rubio are clearly at odds. the president likes battle ground state teams. his picks for the final four

include ohio, indiana, and florida. two of those helped send him to the white house. unlike the president, senator marco rubio's picks favor cinderella teams. if you total up the rankings of rubio's sweet 16 teams, it's almost half of the president's choices. in short here, the tea party politician likes low ranked teams that upset the establishment, which could be a nod to his possible 2016 run. another republican, senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, he goes local with his picks, consistent with his ongoing re-election campaign. he picks louisville to take the trophy and western kentucky university to make ncaa history by beating kansas, only it didn't and lost in the opening round. also going for the home team, california republican anna eshoo picked in her home district. and grover norquist, he ranked his bracket on doctrine. he wrote, "i chose my winners

based on the lowest top marginal income tax rate in each team's home state." by that measure, the miami hurricanes in miami gardens, florida, would take it all. another way to look at it, chris, matching the district of each school with its congress member's party. by that measure, up to right now, the democrats edge out the republicans 9-7. >> so i never got around to doing my bracket, which would involve me throwing darts. how are you doing? >> meaning you might do better than other folks out there. i'm doing okay. 10 out of 16. >> that's pretty good. >> 70th percentile. i'm going to buck the trend, buck conventional wisdom and go with michigan. >> archrivals to my home state of ohio. love you, richard. just not in this case. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. hi, thomas, welcome back. good morning to you. good morning to everybody. the agenda next hour, a watershed moment for the supreme court. oral arguments about about to wrap up on california's

proposition 8. what are the stakes? which justices are key? will public opinion play a role? we've got a jam packed hour. openly gay congressman mark pocan, christie todd whitman, jim, ravens super bowl champ brend brendan ayandabejo. and the outrage over the robocalls from the nra in newtown. plus an italian court orders a retrial for american amanda knox. we get a live report and update from rome after this. so... [ gasps ]

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