>> rachel, i'm reading your lips because i have no real sound in my ear. i just heard your laugh. that came through. we have been having some control room trouble. april 1st, it turns out, to america is of course april fools day and to us here at msnbc, it is the happiest day of the year, the rachel maddow birthday. what are you doing? you're running out of the building now. where are you going? >> i'm going to go home and try to imagine that i'm not 40 because apparently turning 40 means that i feel 80. >> here is how it is going to be easy to imagine you're not 40. go home and look in a mirror. >> you are very, very nice to me. >> you look like a 25-year-old in that mirror.

>> you are very kind, lawrence. thank you very much, i am crawling under the desk. >> thanks, rachel. >> there she goes. tonight, the republicans trying to rebrand themselves have actually finally met the real enemy, and he is, of course, a very crazy republican. >> april will bring in immigration bill to capitol hill. >> if the democrat version of this happens, it is going to be amnesty. >> break through on immigration. >> and if that happens, it won't matter. the republican party is finished anyway. >> it appears the major road blocks have been worked through. >> every major policy issue has been resolved. >> trying to iron out the details. >> republicans were more cautious. >> keep your eye on senator marco rubio. >> rubio, go slow warning, second in two days. >> i talked to marco, it is semantics. >> politics is more important than solutions? >> the strategy is to get the deal done. >> if that happens it won't matter. >> without antagonizing rush limbaugh.

>> the republican party is finished anyway. >> you have marco rubio engaged in a 50 state butt covering. >> republican party establishment and social conservatives are girding for a battle. >> they feel they're not being respected. >> tea party folks. >> not a civil war but culture war. >> did autopsies. >> gop autopsies. >> post mortems. >> our message was weak. we weren't inclusive. >> what happens after the extreme makeover? >> my father had a ranch, hired 50 to 60 wetbacks. >> if they're thinking of standing in the way, the tsunami could knock them over. >> if that happens, it won't matter anyway, the republican party is finished anyway. we are in the third week of the republican party struggle to rebrand itself, and that effort continues to get derailed by crazy republican congressmen, the very same group that kept delivering harmful messages in the last presidential campaign, which mitt romney was always

afraid of condemning because he knew that the republican base did not trust that he was a real conservative. when former republican congressman and wan a be senator todd akin said in august if it is a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down, romney issued a press statement through a spokesperson. governor romney and congressman ryan disagree with mr. akin's statement. then he had his reporter stonewall reporters from asking about it. >> political specialist shawn boyd finished an interview with romney. >> one stipulation to the interview was that i not ask about abortion or todd akin. >> when richard murdock said life begins at the horrible situation of rape, that is something that god intended to happen, mitt romney once again

had his spokesperson speak for him. governor romney disagrees with richard mourdock, but still supports him. then romney ran away when reporters asked about it. >> the newest bat crazy republican to take stage has been on the stage quietly, quietly, for 40 years. he has been over in a dark corner of the stage as the lone member of the house of representatives from alaska. last week 79-year-old don young was back home in alaska saying a bunch of crazy stuff. he was a featured speaker at a rally against domestic violence held on the capital steps in

juneau where his advice to potential wife beaters was to drink alone. if you want to drink by yourself, you may do it. when you drink together, possibility of harm becomes greater every day. john boehner issued a statement saying congressman young's remarks were offensive and beneath the dignity of the office he holds, but boehner wasn't talking about the drink alone recommendation. john boehner was talking about this. >> my father had a ranch, we used to hire 50 to 60 wetbacks and to pick tomatoes. >> john boehner was not in a romney mood about that statement as congress prepares to deal with immigration reform. the presidential campaign seems to have taught boehner that it is time to crackdown on the crazies. i don't care why he said it, there's no excuse and it

warrants immediate apology. the chairman of the republican party was also unforgiving, the words used by representative young emphatically do not represent beliefs of the republican party. everyone in this country deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. offensive language and ethnic slurs have no place in our public discourse. krystal ball, you would think it doesn't have a place, except for this crazy congressman. >> you shake your head and think i can't believe this person was elected to start with and has been reelected time after time. when you take a step back, it illustrates a couple things. number one, illustrates the problem that the leadership of the party has, just getting the flock in line to not use offensive language. they had to have intervention sessions to talk about how to speak about women and minorities, obviously it didn't totally break through. that's one of the things.

the other thing it illustrates is the problem that republicans are nervous about for 2014 because this is the type of person who can emerge from a republican primary, where the far right, where the tea party still holds a lot of sway. when we get details about immigration reform, they are not going to be satisfactory to a significant part of the republican base. they're afraid more don youngs will come out of the wood work in primary, some of the more reasonable members of the republican caucus. >> and boehner knows how memorable a statement like that is compared to whatever the republican house of representatives may do on immigration reform. >> sure. he knows it can completely rebrand the rebranding they're working so hard on. let me take the perspective of the bigoted and confused elderly republican candidate for a moment. they are starting from the position of being told dog whistles are great, the birth certificate is great. donald trump is a reputable

figure granted fund-raising status with the nominee. you can understand why they think it is cool, they don't believe it when they have training sessions because they have been a party and working in concert with a whole communication strategy that tries to get the quote, unquote political benefit out of being bigoted without paying a price. they're running out of steam. this was a nod and wink for a long time. >> that's a hugely important point. if your line is here, you must put your behavior line inside that. boehner didn't do that. he let members of the house, forget trump, real members talk about the birth certificate, and boehner never cracked down. now he finds they're way out here on the line because he made them think all of this stuff is okay, this stuff close to the line is okay. >> now we shifted the line. these guys like ari is saying haven't totally gotten the memo.

i think you'll see the same problem with the republican electorate itself. they not only used it, politicians used it to drive up turnout, to stoke fear about other people in this country that are coming to take your job and take your stuff, and you can't just turn on a dime and change that. there's going to be some reckoning for years of hateful rhetoric that they used. >> and don young went through a series of apologies trying to get it satisfactory. ended up using a phrase where he said he thinks this term that he used should be left, he said it should be left in the 20th century. that was in his big apology. i think what he's saying is this used to be okay. you all recognize that it used to be okay. >> yeah. i found that the weirdest part. you know the rules, you work for senators, you have to say i'm sorry i messed up, full stop, if you were issuing a genuine apology. he did a few iterations, had

some trouble. i don't think the word he used had a glorious period. you can think of other words, the united negro college fund is named after a period when that was considered the more respectful word, but not one we say applied today. that example does exist but doesn't apply to the words he used. it is a problem to split the difference. he should be clear that he messed up. >> listen to what lindsey graham said about where we stand on immigration reform. >> conceptually have an agreement between business and labor, has to be drafted, rolled out next week. i believe it will pass the house because it secures our borders, controls who gets a job. i think it will pass both houses, we're going to need the president's support. i am proud of the work product and look forward to rolling it out. >> i haven't heard anything like that in as long as i can remember. when is the last time a republican said we're rolling something out with the democrats and think it will move smoothly.

>> it is incredibly encouraging and speaks to the fact that the leadership of the party has gotten that they have to do something, they cannot continue to alienate minorities in the country in the way that they have. they have to quote, unquote solve this problem to be able to move forward. so the political dynamics here have shifted. i do think there's still a critical test. once the details come out, the gang of eight is one thing, but the other republican members of the house in particular are cage y, waiting to see the details. we have to get past that having a broader acceptance in the republican caucus or it could be ugly in republican primaries for 2014. >> this is remarkable. we are on the cusp of a bipartisan achievement which we haven't seen a lot of in obama's tenure. if you look at big things, headquarters, foreign policy victories, this president had to work in spite of congress.

the only thing that happened bipartisan was the original stimulus which a lot of republicans turned on when they weren't taking the money. if we get to a policy break through with the parties working together, that will be a huge contribution to the president's legacy. >> this was said literally the day after the election. fascinating to watch one presidential candidate, marco rubio, found his tight rope to walk on there. yesterday he had to say not so fast so that the anti-immigration reform republicans wouldn't think marco rubio was betraying them. he wants this to move regular order, hearings, committee, votes in committee, in a nice, steady way, so that he can monitor it every day to make sure he is not risking anything politically. >> it was interesting. everybody else on a show from the gang of eight said basically we worked everything out. then he is like wait, not so fast, not so fast. >> issued a statement before the shows so they wouldn't go too far.

>> from my perspective, he already waded into the waters, he is already associated with if there's an immigration reform deal, he is already there. what he needs to do, if he wants to be a leader in his party, be a leader in his party. work on convincing some people on the fence, by appearing on tv and advocating for the reforms and by doing the work in the back room. >> in one sentence, he wants the judiciary committee involved to get the republicans on record, that's what this is about. he needs that roll call covered. >> thank you both for joining me. coming up, another episode of they were right. the senators who stood with diane in 1993 and voted for the assault weapons ban. in the "rewrite," the people that refuse to rewrite their continued opposition to marriage equality. changing the world is exhausting business.

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absolutely represent a failure on my part for which there were and always will be at some level consequences. but that does not mean because you've had a failure in your personal life that you cannot step back into the life again. the polls show that should the governor be the candidate facing the democrat we will lose this seat. because of this, a compromised candidate is not what we need. it is just not what we need. >> that was the republican runoff debate in south carolina last week. we are just one day away from finding out which republican will face stephen colbert's sister elizabeth colbert busch in special election for south carolina's now vacant first district congressional seat. former governor mark sanford faces former charleston county councilman curtis bostic. despite high profile

endorsements, many declared sanford is well positioned to win, mainly due to bigger name recognition and a lot more money. a new internal poll today from elizabeth colbert busch's campaign shows she leads sanford 47% to 44%. colbert busch has a larger lead over bostic, 48% to 39%. joining me, nia malika-henderson, and ana maria cox for the guardian. you are the senior south carolina political analyst since you are from there. what are we hoping for here just in terms of fun. are we hoping governor sanford wins so we can take him all the way through the general election here against elizabeth colbert busch?

>> you know, i think that's right for fun. here is a guy who has this checkered past, but is a charismatic guy, he comes across in early ads like a preacher with a slow drawl in the way he talks. he has so far resonated with south carolina voters there. of the internal polls, some ways you have to take any internal polls with a grain of salt, but i think they show a close race. they also remind us that in 2008 a woman named linda ketner ran as a democrat, ran as an openly gay woman, campaigned openly with her partner, and came within 2 percentage points of winning this seat. that was in 2008, it was an election year, so she was able to ride the obama wave and the obama coalition showed up, but there does seem to be real energy on colbert busch's team. in a lot of ways, that internal poll is a signal to them to get

involved in the race. >> capable of a liberal lean more so than we thought. elizabeth colbert busch leads sanford by a couple points, tied with the other guy. i want to see the sanford race. what i want to see in the end is congresswoman colbert busch. >> right. i have to say if someone is rooting for congressman colbert busch, i am not sure the sanford nomination is the way to go. he has amazing name recognition and turns out the voters have a flexible definition marriage, more than you would think. we have been pushing marriage equality on the show a long time. i would hope the conservative christian voters of south carolina's congressional district would apply that flexibility, ability to forgive people that might be a little unorthodox in personal lives,

apply it to definition of marriage as well. but i think this is a case of name recognition and more name recognition than colbert busch, and i think this is a indicate where he has been able to campaign as a fiscal conservative. he is able to say he cut lines in the dmv, he was rated number one by the cato institute. people like to think they're forgiving. let's not forget that, especially when it comes to politicians. >> i'm very forgiving about all of that. let's listen to more of that debate last week. >> people kept calling, kept calling, they said mark, you need to do this because here is a chance for you to learn not only from your experience in congress and governorship but more significantly what you learned on the way up and on the way down and apply it to what is arguably one of the great could nun drums of the situation, how do you get the financial house

in order. should i make it, that's what i intend to do. >> nia, what fascinates me, exactly what do you think he learned on the way down about how to get our financial house in order? >> right. absolutely nothing. on the way down, he had to pay a $70,000 ethics fine. the largest ethics fine in south carolina history. but there you have him trying to explain where he is and where he wants to go. i think he benefits from the fact he was never someone that led social conservative issues, was a box checker, was more leaning forward in terms of fiscal issues, and that's what he led with. so i think if he actually wins this race, we're going to see somebody that makes some noise on the hill, who might challenge either tim scott or lindsey graham in 2014.

people don't love lindsey gram down there, see him as a rhino. tim scott has not been setting the world on fire as a senator, so far, but also people think it would be more likely should he win this race, he is more likely looking at the governor's race in 2018. >> at this hour tomorrow night, we should probably know who the republican candidate will be. and in the last poll we've seen, mark sanford is leading curtis bostic 53-40%. and ana marie, i am not sure anything happened to change that around for bostic. >> no, i don't think it did. mark sanford is probably going to walk away from this. i would like to point out as far as making noise on the hill, he didn't co-sponsor a single piece of legislation in three terms he represented congress ten years ago. >> details, details. come on. >> these days, people make their

mark on fox news, it isn't necessarily doing the work of legislation. it is making noise and, you know, crafting sound bites on fox news. >> that's what you call nitpicking in south carolina, isn't it? >> that's right. >> nia malika-henderson, ana marie cox, thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. why the war on drugs never worked, never will work, and has only made things worse. i don't like to golf. i love to golf. ♪ [ grunts ] yowza! that's why i eat belvita at breakfast. it's made with delicious ingredients and carefully baked to release steady energy that lasts... we are golfing now, buddy! [ grunts ] ...all morning long. i got it! for the win! uno mas! getting closer! belvita breakfast biscuits -- steady energy to do what i do all morning long.

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the man known as egypt's jon stewart was questioned by egyptian prosecutors on charges that his jokes insulted president mohammed morsi and islam. he turned himself in on sunday morning and was released on bail after several hours of questioning in which he had to watch his own show, while they asked him about each line. he is a heart surgeon who treated protesters in tahrir square before he began doing commentaries on youtube in march of 2011. by july that year, he had his own television show. it is now seen by 30 million viewers across the middle east. he considers jon stewart his inspiration. last year, egypt's jon stewart met our jon stewart on "the daily show."

>> how difficult is it to do a show like you're doing, a comedy show, when the stability of the country is still in question. because it is difficult for me and we're pretty stable. but i still get the hate with the people that don't like me. what happens with you? >> death threats. >> check. >> check. >> we're not so different, you and i. >> sometimes i get beaten. no, actually it has been quite a riot and what we do has actually -- we broke ground in the television programming because now people say wow, he says what we want to say. and we are trying to be funny. we fail most of the time. but we try. >> check! >> check! it's monday.

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sales for guns, magazines carrying ten or more bullets, and eligibility certificate to buy a rifle or shotgun ammunition. also has a ban on magazines like those used in newtown. tomorrow, the lobbying group will release what it calls school safety proposals which are expected to be proposals for armed guards in schools. gun bill coming to the senate floor in washington won't contain an assault weapons ban. dianne feinstein says she will introduce assault weapons ban as an amendment in the senate, which is the way she got the first weapons ban passed in 1993. that amendment passed then 52-47.

in tonight's episode of "they were right" some of the 52 democrats and republicans who had the political courage to do the right thing in 1993. >> mr. president, i believe it's time to stop the sale, the manufacture -- what further evidence in this tragedy do we need to classify semi automatic assault weapons as those of mass destruction? >> how can we consider passing a crime bill that doesn't do anything about getting rid of these semi automatic assault weapons that are mowing down americans every day of the week. >> mr. president, i rise in support of the senator from california's amendment. it is time to send him a bill that will end production of these military style assault weapons, and i emphasize military style assault weapons.

>> madam president, i am a co-sponsor of this amendment to ban assault weapons. i hope that my colleagues will stand up to the nra, do what's right, let's ban these weapons, protect law enforcement people, and moreover, let's show we mean it when we say we want to fight crime. >> madam president, i, too, want to join voicing my support for the amendment. these matters of violence are not statistics, real human beings, real people, real families, real tears, real blood, and they deserve to have some action here in the united states senate. and i hope the senator's amendment is accepted. >> who are we going to listen to, that's the issue. is it going to be the lobbyists of the nra or is it going to be men and women who put their lives on the line every day defending us? who are we going to listen to?

i suggest we listen to the police. >> madam president, i support the very thoughtful amendment offered by senator feinstein. guns are terrific killers. that's what they're made for, to kill. people kill people. yes, and guns kill people, terribly, efficiently, easily. >> the amendment is confined to weapons that have one purpose and that purpose is blowing human beings to bits. our future is in doubt because we are slaughtering one another, and that is why i urge every member of the senate to support it. >> these are guns that are designed explicitly, exclusively to spray large groups of people with gunfire in a short period of time, guns that have no other purpose but to kill as many human beings as quickly as possible. >> it really comes down to a question of blood or guts. the blood of innocent people or

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in tonight's "rewrite," some of the people that won't be rewriting their position on marriage equality any time soon. conservative intellectual leader bill kristol said in 1993 i think this is the high water mark of the gay rights movement in the united states. he said that on larry king's cnn show. larry then asked it's downhill after this? and bill kristol said i think so. and bill kristol is still considered a conservative republican intellectual leader because intellectual leadership in republican circles means never having to say you're sorry for being like totally wrong.

let's listen to what bill kristol said this weekend on the weekly standard podcast. >> the republican establishment looked like a herd of totally conformist, pathetically kind of running to catch up with the trends minds, don't even have minds maybe, but just political beings trying to hey, let me join this parade, you know, as if they're going to get much credit for joining it at this point, and it is not going to earn the contempt of course people defending traditional marriage and the contempt of people that are uncertain where they ultimately come down on this. don't like seeing political leaders and alleged intellectual leaders jumping on the train because it is fashionable and some poll shows it is 58% popular and five years ago was only 43% popular. i mean, there's something pathetic about it. >> so the republican

establishment is trying to jump on the marry band wagon of marriage equality? i did not know that. it would be true if the republican establishment consisted of exactly one person, the mild mannered senator rob portman of ohio who recently became a convert to marriage equality after discovering two years ago that his son is gay. of course, bill kristol actually is part of the republican establishment, and the republican establishment continues to agree with him that marriage equality is an abomination they will not abide. >> i know what our principles are, i know our party believes marriage is between one man and one woman. >> republicans are so adamant about refusing to rewrite their positions on marriage equality that having a gay son does not lead to a portman-liken enlightenment for some of them. here is republican congressman matt salmon, the proud father of a gay son.

>> i don't support the gay marriage. my son is by far one of the most important people in my life. i love him more than i can say. i'm just not there as far as believing in my heart that we should change 2,000 years of social policy in favor of redefinition of the family. i'm not there. >> not there. congressman salmon who is a mormon apparently has no problem with his religion redefining marriage from a partnership of one man and as many women as he wants to one man and one woman at a time. card carrying republican establishment member ed gillespie said this on fox news this weekend. >> i don't think you'd ever see the republican party platform says we're in favor of same-sex marriage. >> so republican intellectual leader bill kristol is not just wrong about marriage equality, he is also wrong about his own

party rushing to support marriage equality. the republican party is almost as dug in against marriage equality as the catholic church is. catholic bishops in ireland issued a threat if same-sex marriage becomes legal there, they will no longer carry out the civil component, the legal component of marriage in their church ceremonies. in other words, the catholic church will still have marriage ceremonies, but purely religious and sacramental. but to be legally married, the couple has to go to the town hall and get married there to have a real legal marriage in ireland, which might sound terribly disruptive and difficult and redundant and all of that, unless you know that that's exactly how they've been doing it across the channel in a much bigger catholic country since 1792!

in france, you see smiling couples in white gowns and tuxedos emerging joyously from catholic churches all the time. everyone knows they were legally married before they entered that church that morning to get married once again, because in france, a religious marriage ceremony can only be performed after, never before, after a marriage performed by a french civil authority. that's what real separation of church and state looks like. the bishops have lost their grip on this issue in ireland and they have here in the united states. >> what do you say as a minister, as a pastor, to a gay couple that comes to you and says we love god, we love the church, but we also love each other and we want to raise a family in faith. what do you say to them. >> first thing i say to them is i love you, too, and god loves you and you were made in god's

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i don't understand how you could have a drink. i don't understand how after everything you worked for how on that day of all days you could be so stupid. >> that's because you think it has something to do with being smart and stupid. do you have any idea how many alcoholics are in mensa.

do you think it is lack of will power? >> that was john spencer in his role in the west wing discussing the worst problem in america. in seven years and 154 episodes, "the west wing" discussed just about every problem but none more important than addiction. it kills 350 people in this country every day. addiction costs society more than any other single problem you can name. $600 billion a year in crime control costs, health care costs, job losses, productivity losses, and devastates families and neighborhoods as nothing else can. >> america's public enemy number one in the united states is drug abuse. in order to fight and defeat this enemy, it is necessary to wage a new all out offensive.

>> 40 years ago, nixon declared a war on cancer and war on drugs. one war has been fought as a health problem, the other war has been fought as a criminal problem. medical science has made great strides in cancer treatment, but according to my next guest, we are in worse shape than ever on drugs. he says the war on drugs actually increases drug use. joining me now, david chef, author of clean, overcoming addict and ending america's greatest tragedy. david, i love this book, i have been filling it up with notes. first of all, so many things to get through. start with why the war on drugs has made the situation worse. >> because we're dealing with a problem that is devastating, devastating families, it is a

health problem. and it doesn't help to treat it as a criminal problem. we end up locking people up, destroying families, increasing stress on communities, which all increase drug use. one thing after the other. we have now 20 million addicts in america, 100 million families are effected. it continues to get worse and we're doing everything wrong because we're treating this in exactly the wrong way. you mentioned that richard nixon not only started the war on drugs but also started the war on cancer. what we need now is a war on addiction because it is an illness like cancer. >> you make this point in the book that we need to think of addiction as a disease and treat it as a disease. when i was working for senator moynihan, when anti-drug laws would come in, his fight was always and exclusively how do i get treatment money in there. didn't care about law enforcement money. he knew other people would fight for that. he was always trying to push the ratio for more treatment money in relation to law enforcement money.

if the government is involved here, that is where it should be involved. >> yeah. we have to shift. right now we are spending in the official budget, $25 billion for the war on drugs. there's actually about 40 billion actually be being spent. about 60% of that is going to interdiction and criminal justice and law enforcement. and a minority spent on what we need to be spending all of it or a majority of it on which is treatment. we can prevent this disease, we can treat addicts, but we're doing everything wrong. we are funding national institute of drug abuse, gets $1 billion of this. it is a crime and killing people every day. >> you have a lot of controversial points in here. you think marijuana should be legalized. you also think it can be harmful. >> yes. one of the problems i have with the marijuana debate, legalization debate is that people, it has become a black and white issue. people that want drugs, who want pot to be legal say it is safe,

natural, and people against it say it is going to lead someone to shooting heroin in the streets. neither of those things are true. marijuana is harmful to kids. that's what i worry about. i don't care if an adult wants to go home at night and instead of having a cocktail. >> the teenage brain. >> the teenage brain develops from 15 to 25. and it has an impact. it really changes the way kids' brains develop. affects cognition and memory. i think it is important that we educate people, that we figure ways, strategies to help children understand, but even more than that, help them grow up in a way that alleviates some of the problems and stress factors that lead to addiction and drug use and drug problems. but kicking kids out of school, you know, you want to set a kid up for more failure? throwing them into the criminal

justice system, you know, those are the kinds of things that will increase stresses on a person's life, increase the anxiety and those things lead to drug use. >> this is your second book in this area. your first book was entitled "a beautiful boy." that was the story of your son's problem with addiction which is what brought you into this. >> yes. my son, he is 30, which is a miracle, because we didn't think he was going to make it to 21. he became addicted when he was a teenager to every drug you could name. i almost lost him many, many times. and i had him in treatment over and over and over again. and none of the treatments worked. that's when i learned what a disaster this system is. and the only reason he's alive now is because we're lucky. and this shouldn't be about luck, it is a disease, a medical problem, and we have to treat it as such. >> that's the way people i know that have addiction in the family in their lives that have come close to death, it feels like luck is the only