for 2016 after hillary clinton's return to public life last night. now, she did not mention a possible run for the presidency, in fact, she didn't even hint at it. but she did lavish praise on her former chief of staff who was being honored at the kennedy center vital voices global partnership. and, significantly, if you're looking into that crystal ball she shared the stage with a potential future rival with joe biden. >> there's no woman like hillary clinton. hillary clinton -- that's a fact. >> vice president biden and i have worked together on so many important issues, and one that is particularly close to his heart is the fight against domestic violence. >> a new quinnipiac poll shows a wide open race on the republican side. let me bring in matthew cooper, national journal's white house

managing editor and lois romano from politico. both of them have covered hillary clinton over the years. good to see both of you. good morning. >> thanks for having us. >> good morning. >> last night was the first of several appearances hillary clinton has scheduled. she's giving a keynote at the women's summit friday, her first paid speech in dallas at the end of the month. in it june she's being honored by an economic club in michigan. lois, what happened to six months off, taking it easy? >> i don't think she's capable of that. i mean, this is who she is. she cares -- well, she's a public personality. she dacares deeply about policy. you're looking aat a period in time where her stock is just trading off the charts, and i think she wants to take advantage of that. >> so she's keeping her options open, or should we take this as a clue? >> i think she's keeping her options open. i mean, she knows as well as anyone after 2008 when she was doing very well that anything could happen, that political

climates can change. but the clintons are very much about keeping the network alive, keeping yourself out there, doing the things you care about. and she's at a moment in time where she can have an enormous amount of impact before she announces because everybody's wondering what she's going to do. >> well, she brought back one of her most famous speech lines last night. let me play that little clip. >> the voices of all those am e amazing women could not be denied. human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights. >> look, matthew, the crowd absolutely loved it, but this is obviously a very safe speech. at what point do you think we might see some real signs about whether or not she'll run? >> oh, chris, i think it's pretty far down the road. i think she knows, as lois said, the political climate can change. there's no upside to showing your cards anytime soon. and i think she genuinely has to think about what she wants to do next. so i think it will be a while

before you see a trip to iowa or anything with a strong signal. >> in spite of the headlines matthew that says the rest of of the democratic field just has to sit back and wait because the big money donors will wait to see what she does, the strategists, players will wait to see what she does? >> well, that's right. i think she's not in any rush to appease them, even if they're holding back. i think she'll take her time deciding what to do next. she does have a myriad of options before her, and, you know, there's no incentive to go early. the longer you kind of hang out there as a potential candidate, the more you get shot at. you know, it's both prudent and in her nature to wait. >> we saw outside of the speech last night there was a pretty big group of supporters. you can see they're mostly young. january aapproval rate put it at 67%, the highest she's ever been. but, lois, as i was looking at

the young people and hillary, what, i think she would be 69 if she decides to run if she was elected president? >> that's right. >> all these young people, how much do you think has to do it, support of the young could be crucial, has to do with it's time for a woman to break through that glass ceiling. and as many as a few people have said, including our former governor ed rundell here on msnbc, that it's time for -- a lot of people have that perception. particularly young people? >> i think that plays into it somewhat, but think it's about her largely because you could now put other women in that position and i don't think they would create the excitement that she creates. again, though, we're three years out, don't know what could happen. nobody saw barack obama coming. going back to what barack obama

said, we have two 800-pound gorillas in the race right now, herself and joe biden. joe biden doesn't need to race out there either. he has high name recognition. if he is out of the mix, her poll numbers shoot up really high. he can afford to wait a little bit, too. aall the other kind of wannabes they'll just be out of luck. they'll have to wait four more years. >> i want to bring in pally soils doyle, hillary's former campaign manager. as i watch her, we're talking about the fact she said and many people said she deserved a rest after almost a million miles as secretary of state, not to mention, senator before that and first lady are before that. do you think she wants to go through this again? >> you know, i just have to say i have no idea what she's going to do, but i hope she does do it. i think she better than anybody

knows what a presidential race needs in terms of the physical toll. but let's face it, hillary clinton is the hardest working woman in show business. i've never seen her -- and i've worked for her for a long time -- have hard work shy away from anything. >> do you think it matters to her she could be the first woman president, could be the woman to break through that glass ceiling? does she have that sort of sense about her, or is that really not a consideration? >> you faux, i think the idea of the first woman president of the united states has huge potency with the american people. you know, it has huge potency as a woman, as a mother for me, i would love to see that happen in my lifetime, i would love to see my daughter and my son, for that matter, live through an administration with a woman at the helm. you know, as a mother herself and as a woman, of course i think it matters to her. but i agree with lois and matt

who says she has the time to really try and figure out whether she wants to do this. >> in the meantime, other people are figuring out whether she will or won't and what that means to her plans, people like andrew cuomo, joe biden. what's your sense, you've been around not just her but the democratic business a very long time. how much would she clear the field if she decides to get in? >> well, look, i think one of the benefits of a clinton candidacy is she has the ability to stay out of it as long as possible. she has a huge national donor base. she has a huge national political base. you foe, she has aa lot of excitement, huge name recognition. the same with joe biden, i think, but some of the other people considering running, i don't think have the luxury of waiting until she decides. i think they're going to have to make their own decisions on their own time table. >> there i think will be at some

point, though, some pressure from some of the big donors to say, will you or won't you. i don't think it will come in the next few months, but when do you think that might happen? >> look, i think she has plenty of time. i think it would be prudent just to wait to see what the political terrain looks like in the next couple of years. but right now is just far too premature for anybody, really. >> patti solis doyle, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> meantime, hillary clinton's successor as secretary of state john kerry is putting pyongyang on notice as north korea escalates its threat. >> what kim jong-un has been choosing to do is provocative, it is dangerous, reckless, and the united states will not accept the dprk as a nuclear state, and i reiterate again the united states will do what is necessary to defend ourselves and defend our allies, korea and

japan. >> now, on top of the growing nuclear threat, north korea is now blocking south koreans from crossing the border into an industrial park they share. since it generates more than $92 million a year in wages for more than 53,000 north koreans, this is a sign of how far the north is willing to go with its threats against the south as well as against the u.s. let me bring matt back in and lois as well. matt, john kerry is going to south korea, china, japan next week. we also just learned he'll make another stop in israel. but in terms of the korean peninsula, what does he need to do? >> well, he's dog what any secretary of state would do now. he's got to reassure the allies that the u.s. is committed to south korea and the region's defense and that they're not going to be intimidated by the reckless and frankly bizarre actions of the north. but i was surprised he said we wouldn't let north korea become

a nuclear power. they are. i mean, they've detonated an atomic weapon and a couple times now and so, you know, the barn door is open on that one. >> and they've reopened one of their nuclear facilities and peter king was talking about this just this morning. he went so far to say the united states has the right to take preemptive action if we think north korea is going to attack us. take a look. >> i don't want to be putting anything out there other than to say i don't think we necessarily have to wait until we're attacked. if we have good reason to believe there's going to be an athank, i think we have the right to take preemptive action to protect ourselves. >> tough talk, lois. what's the bottom line, to find out how much of this is kim jong-un's bluster and how much is real? >> i think so. i mean, i think part of the bottom line is this is the last thing the administration needs right now. i think they'd rather be focusing on the mideast. but i think the primary concern right now is with south korea and whether north korea goes

after south korea because that's an easy target for them. i don't know a lot about the intelligence, but from what i've read they can't really reach us. so it's really protecting the region right now for the united states. >> lois romano, matt cooper, good to see both of you, thank you so much. this is what everyone is talking about this morning. rutgers basketball coach mike rice could be out of a job by the end of the day. according to what multiple sources are telling wnbc reporter brian thompson. maybe you've seen this video obtained by espn. rice is yelling homophobic slurs at his players while pushing them, kicking them and throwing basketballs at their heads. the footage was takingen at practices between 2010 and 2012. then late last year rutgers athletic director tim pra netty fined rice and suspended him for three days. >> talked to everybody in the program. we looked at hundreds of hours of practice film.

but needless to say there was a lot of behavior unacceptable and not to the rutgers standard. >> now the video has gone viral on new jersey governor chris christie's office released a statement saying the governor is deeply disturbed by the conduct displayed and strongly condemns this behavior. coming up in our next half hour, we will talk with nbc new york sports anchor bruce beck. so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wrench. no way! i'm like, what is this, a drainpipe slipknot? wherever your business takes you, you can save money with progressive commercial auto. [ sighs ] [ flo speaking japanese ] [ shouting in japanese ] we work wherever you work. now, that's progressive. call or click today.

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well, literally we just reported that mike rice the coach at rutgers could be out of the job by the end of the day, and in the break we got word that had indeed happened. rutgers athletics tweeted this, based upon recently revealed information and a review of previously discovered issues, rutgers terminated mike rice's contract. we also heard from the athletic director who said he was

responsible for the decision. he realizes that his decision to try to rehabilitate wasn't the best one and he is going to work to regain the trust of the rutgers community. again, we'll update this story with bruce beck coming up in our next half hour. in the meantime, let's talk about voter i.d. because you can add aarkansas to the list of state that's have passed strict photo i.d. laws. legislators there passed a law requiring voters to show photo identification at thehole polls. it was an override of governor mike bibi's veto. 30 states have laws that will require all voters to show i.d. at the polls this november. let me bring in new york congress nan charles rangel who is part of a panel discussing voter i.d. laws at the national network this morning. it's good of you to stop by on your way. how are you? >> good. >> the arkansas agovernor said the law is an expensive solution to a nonexistent problem.

but obviously it's a solution in the minds of a lot of people in a lot of states. what do you see going on here? >> there's a problem, and it is an aattempted solution to the shrinkage of the republican party. somehow over the years they've lost their base, and if you take a look from the time that governor romney had indicated that 47% of the people would never vote for him, this wasn't just an awkward political statement. and if you take a look at which governments are the ones that are driving for i.d., it's republican legislators and they're trying ing ting to cur number of democrats who would vote or people they think would vote democrat. that's why you would see most of these states in addition to calling for i.d. and making it difficult to vote also against immigration as we have known 0 it in this country because they are afraid that, again, they

lose in the minority, they lose in young people, they haven't got a handle on the women voters, and they have to either decide whether they're going to broaden their base or restrict those people who have a tendency to vote for the democratic party. >> well, we have a good indication with some research about exactly what the impact of these voter i.d. laws have been. there was a recent university of chicago study that found it disproportionately affect aed young minority voters in 2012. while just over half of white youth were asked for i.d., election officials asked 61% of latinos and 73% of black youth voters. the study also found that lack of a required i.d. prevented black youth from voting nearly four times at the rate of whites. if those fa sta tis ticks are correct, what do you do about it? >> well, i don't know. we did a justice system that blacks, whites and good thinking people really believe that the supreme court was there for us. what i was shocked at so many

observers of the court kwh justice scalia said, do minorities really think that they're entitled to the right to vote? are we talking about an entitlement? and i can't think of anything that could better describe entitlement than our precious right to vote, a right that people had no problem in giving up their lives and their freedom for. so even though in the short term republicans are seeking to broaden their base or restrict the votes to those people who think like they do and in many cases look like they look, what they're it doing is great damage to this constitution because i firmly believe that expanding the base is not a question of giving a break to black or minorities. you're giving a break to the united states of america it's that constitution that has made us the great nation that we are today. >> let me ask you really quickly to respond to what some of the supporters of photo indictment in arkansas set. they said, look, the complaint is they don't have i.d. we have provided within this new

law a system to give them free photo i.d. so any concerns that anyone would have about inconvenience or cost are taking care of. what would you say to them? >> first of all, they're talking about a problem and they can't come up with people going up there trying to commit fraud. it's just not occurring in the united states. it's not occurring in these states. and so they're creating a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. but free is not really free. what you have to go through to get i.d., if you're used to people with civil service jobs and are able to drive cars and all these things but to pay for birth certificates or track down information to be old, to be fragile and to not just want to be involved with government and all of these things, the best thing to do is just leave it alone, it's too complex. when we should be encouraging people not to be afraid to vote. that's our power. the reason we have such a problem in washington today is

too many people complain and not enough people vote. they're not registered. they don't know who their elected officials are. and for public officials to try to discourage people from enjoying one of the greatest rights that we have as americans, it's really wrong. >> congressman charles rangel, always good to see you. thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you. the first phase of former governor mark sanford's comeback is complete. he won yesterday south carolina's gop runoff and will face elizabeth cull bert bush in a special congressional election next month. on "morning joe," mika asked him why he decided to put himself through this after such a public affair and fall from grace. >> you do a whole lot of soul searching. you have a ping-pong match in your gut for a couple of weeks there. and you are fearful. you are frightened. you don't know how you're going to be received. but ultimately you make a decision, and one of the chief things that i had to do before i made that decision was to sit down indeed with the boys and

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cast and crew of the movie "42" gathered at the white house to screen the movie about jackie robinson's life. his widow said he never expected to make history. >> i don't think he would ever have dreamed of having this kind of film made of him or the attention given to him as a hero because that wasn't what he was looking for in life. >> and not only did the first lady give an emotional tribute to rachel robinson, she got pretty excited about harrison ford. >> i want to thank harrison ford. i've wanteded to say that for a while. harrison ford. so you think you trip because i'm here? i'm tripping out because he's here. >> and if you read only one thing this morning, sometimes stories answer questions you didn't even know you had. for example, if you were a professional mermaid, how long

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shot in the head. that became well known because her sister on that very same day had attended aan anti-violence session with president obama. joe mcfarland as well as angela blakely, the woman's parents, spoke to me about what they think needs to happen. >> when you see the news, you see other children -- you see other children on the news and i never thought i would see my daughter on the news doing this very thing. so just be careful, whatever their decision is with gun laws. >> the president is in the united states. every person has to be president of their own home, meaning parenting, spending time with their young people. >> there's also the story of cleopatra callie. her daughter who they are talking about here at the national action network convention died at the age of 15. she was shot and killed by a stray bullet.

for her, cleopatra, the girl's mother, she said this is exactly what her daughter wanted to do because she wanted to be in politics. chris, these are reluctant, if you will, icons of an issue that has swept the nation as we debate gun control legislation. and for them they're trying to make sense as they discuss behind me at this first session at the national action network convention how to make sense of something so senseless to them. >> thank you, richard lui. what can, what will be done? let's bring in robert costa and cnbc contributor, also joined by former democratic congressman patrick murphy. good to see both of you. robert, a new "morning joe"/maris poll finds what we're seeing in other polls, 60% want stricter gun laws overall, 59% support an assault weapons ban, an overwhelming 87% want background checks. such a tough sell, though, on capitol hill.

why? >> that's exactly right. here on capitol hill there's aa lot of reluctance in both parties to pass some kind of assault weapon ban. the only real kind of action that's probably going to happen when congress comes back from recess is a background check bill. but even that has trouble passing a republican-controlled house because they're very reluctant to push that. >> well, what kind of deals can be made? i'm wondering, congressman, you were there, you know how the system works, if we need a few reluctant people, if the president wants or the vice president wants to twist a few arms, what can he offer? and to whom? >> well, hopefully the president will speak to the better angels, chris, because the facts are these -- there have been more americans who have died from gun violence in the past ten years than in iraq and afghanistan wars combined. secondly, there's been over 3,000 americans that have died since newtown, connecticut, over 100 days ago. 3,000. so simple measures -- and i agree with robert costa, by the

way. take the assault weapon ban off the table, if you want, it's probably a nonstarter. but background checks which will save lives, things like virginia tech wouldn't have happened if we had background checks. if we can focus on that, there should be no reason whatsoever that we don't get this passed in the congress. >> i do find it, however, just for a little bit of a areality check, a little difficult to believe that the better angels exist often on capitol hill. we saw the nra yesterday releasing their idea for what should happen post-newtown. this is a detailed plan for school safety, arming teachers among other things. here's their gun task force director, former congressm mamaa hutchison. >> it's a comprehensive plan of layered security, the presence of an armed security personnel in a school adds a layer of security and diminishes response

time that is beneficial to the overall security. >> the american federation of teachers responded, quote, today's nra proposal is a cruel hoax that will fail to keep our children and schools safe. it is simply designed to assist gun manufacturers flood the nation and our schools with more guns and large magazine clips which will simply lead to more violence. having said that, robert, is the nra winning? >> great question. here's how i think it will play out. the senate will push the background check bill and then it becomes a test of the political will. you have the obama white house campaigning nationally for district stricter gun laws but the nra is already lining up against background checks because their argument is this will create a national gun registry, something that would be very negative for gun owners. they'll push house republicans especially very hard. so it's a test of the white house versus the nra. who can really push legislation or stop legislation in congress? >> well, patrick, it was

interesting that asa hutchinson told cnn after this that he a's okay with background checks. does that give you hope maybe there's compromise there? >> it doesn't give me hope because we know the nra lobby is strongly against background checks even though they used to be for them. chris, it shouldn't be such a political test. 93% of gun owners are for background checks. 85% of nra members, not the lobby but the members, are for background checks. 81% of republicans are for background checks. this will save lives. it is a commonsense measure. it should not be this hard. that's why people hate washington, because they can't get the simple things done. >> congressman murphy, one thing i always find that's interesting is red state democrats are also very wary of this legislation because they're up for reelection in 2014 facing a lot of gun owners in their states. so thet also have a tough

question as well. >> but you look at the polls and you wonder, what's the nra going to do when you have that many people who favor background checks? you know, what's the possible backlash? but we'll continue to talk about this and watch the president as he travels. robert costa, former congressman, patrick murphy, thanks so both of you. check being the news feed this morning, a public memorial will be held tomorrow for texas d.a. mike mclelland and his wife cynthia, killed inside their own home. he was reportedly shot as many as 20 times. "the l.a. times" reports investigators are looking at a former local official as a person of interest. someone who was fired after being arrested for alleged possession of stolen goods in connection with a corruption investigation. the former atlanta school superintendent is out of jail on bond this morning. beverly hull among 35 people indicted last week in that test cheating scandal. still, though, there are a handful of educators who have not turned themselves in, in spite of a deadline yesterday. check out this view. this is a preview of what it will look like from the new

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>> on twit ir, rutgers released the following statement, based upon recently revealed information and a review of previously discovered issues, rutgers has terminated the krookt of mike rice. let me bring in wnbc sports anchor bruce beck. in the interest of full disclosure, you know the coach well. you've worked with him because you do a show there at rutgers. let me first say when i saw this tweet, recently revealed information, they had this videotape, what, in zmdecember? >> they had the tape before that. they made a ruling in december where they suspended him three days and fined him. >> what's the recent live revealed information? >> the recently reviewed information is that the public got ahold of this. this is a public decision and rutgers is a public university. they reacted this way today. >> tell us about the mike rice you know. just to put this in context, they looked at aa lot of tape. but when you look at these clips, it's horrible. >> the abusive language, the homophobic slurs, the physical

abuse, this is stuff that is just unacceptable in college athletics it's unacceptable anywhere in the world. i do know mike rice as a great family man, as a gentleman off the court. but obviously when he crosses that line he crossed the line in terms of how he dealt with these players and there had to be a suspension and today there had to be a firing. >> it's not the first time this has happened. we were talking about on the break. i was in ohio for those who are old enough to remember a legendary football coach woody hayes actually went after a player on an opposing team and of course bobby knight who had a series of issues that eventually he was fired for. but i wonder, i mean, really, i didn't even see this tape until this morning and then he's gone. i think our tolerance and our understanding of what's right and wrong, how far you can go, has changed, don't you think? >> no question. this is 2013. we're in the age of twitter and facebook, social media dominates. and this stuff goes rampant. and yesterday when everyone

watched the video, it was like the mothers and fathers at home voted on this as well. and rutgers heard all the reaction. being a state university, they had to do this. there was no answer. i thought mike might go in and resign today. i thought that might be the cleanest way to do that. but tim pernetti fired him. i like that he says, i have to work on regaining the trust of this community, because he's on the hook here, too. >> he said, i'm responsible for this. i made the decision. but i have to believe there's going to be pressure on them to let him go as well. what do you think? >> i really don't think it's going to happen because he went and solicited the advice of the president. the administration was on board here. they knew what they were doing together. they thought they could rehabilitate him. it didn't work. and pernetti is also the guy who got rutgers to the big ten and each institution last year got 22.9 million from the big ten. >> now you're talking. >> money rules in college athletics. tim is the guy who got them

there. i don't think he goes but he had to make this move this morning. >> bruce beck, thanks so much. >> pleasure. >> appreciate it. today's tweet of the day comes from our own capitol hill correspondent luke russert. whenever i see a hothead coach like mike rice at rutgers i'm reminded of how john wooden won ten national titles without raising his had voice. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out.

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. the start of a series of commemorations today in memphis to mark the 45th anniversary of martin luther king jr. delivering his iconic mountain top speech to a rally of striking sanitation workers in memphis. >> and i've seen the promised land! i may not get there with you, but i want you to know the night that we as a people will get to the promised land! >> of course king was shot and

killed the next day at the lorraine motel as he was preparing for a march in support of those workers. some of the same striking sanitation workers are returning to memphis today for the first of two days of those remembrances. joining me baxter lee who participated in the sanitation strike back in 1968, lee saunders is president of the american federation of state county and municipal employees, afl-c afl-cio. good to see both of you. baxter, let me start with you. take us back to 1968, what it was like then and knowing that martin luther king was coming. >> when i know he was coming, you know, i was proud he come to help us with our strike. when he came, he did -- you know, he talked and had to go back to atlanta because he -- he had to return back to atlanta. he said, i will be back.

he came back and he did his speech. i had no car to get there. that's why i wasn't there at the speech. >> how tough was it at that point? how tough was it for you as a striker, for your fellow co-workers who were going on strike? what was it like? >> i apologize. we are having technical problems from the beginning. we have lost the audio. can withey hear me now? can they hear us now? it doesn't appear we'll be able to get that back. my apologies to lee saunders and baxter lee who participated in that sanitation strike back in 1968. also want to tell you that the

reverend jesse jackson is going to be with us tomorrow on the anniversary of the assassination of martin luther king so we will have that for you as well. again, our apologies for the technical issues. when you heard the difficulty with him answering that question, just so you know, there was a terrible delay and we'll see what the technical problem was. that's going to wrap up this hour of ""jansing and company."" i'm chrissian sing. thomas roberts is up next. news about rutgers. >> that was great insight to provide you certainly personally knowing who rice is it was fascinating because we were talking in the newsroom, is this a family guy? does he have kids? would he treat his own kids this way? i think that's what's most shocking to everybody. >> i think also the speed at which this happened. we're often used to in the news business these things kind of dragging out. >> right. >> it was clear i think there was such a union minimumty of people that this is no longer

acceptable that people were reacting to, that it was going to happen quickly. but, boy, it really did. >> now it will go up the chain of command. people will look at whether or not rehab was the right decision for the a.d. to try and put this coach through some type of rehabilitative program. were it for the public outcry or this video surfacing, would we know about it? >> no. when you heard bruce beck, when we talk about the new development, the new development is basically that people saw it and they didn't see it the same way as the administration at rutgers did. >> one thing, too, chris, i was reaching out to the tyler clementi foundation, the sud that committed suicide on the campus for anti-p bullying that took place there. they're looking for better dialogue for rutgers but to create a safe space on campus. i'm hoping to get a statement to their reaction on what took place with the coach.

they'll also have dave briggs the co-host of nbc sports network show called "the crossover" join us here with sports reaction pouring in. also, we look at the ncaa and the fact, chris, so many of these teams, these guys that are overseeing these teams, their first reaction, like we saw at penn state and different schools, they want to protect the institution as opposed to o doing what's right. >> and protect the money coming into the institution, as we heard from bruce beck. >> yes. what else is come willing up on the show? >> a lot more after the rutgers story, plus we'll talk about the west wing graduates. these people who take their own grudges to twitter. maybe you follow some of these. former president obama aides. they feel the trash-talking on social media is effective and they feel it's okay. we'll tell you who's who on twitter. then hillary clinton emerging, looking refreshed, ready to go. is she looking to get a ajump-start on 2016 and a run on the white house. james carville joins me and much more coming your way in moments.

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good morning, i'm thomas robtsz. gun control uncertain in congress, president obama is taking his campaign back on the road on a trip filled with political pressure and symbolism. but is it too little too late? in a matter of hours, the president will travel to colorado to highlight that state's new and sweeping gun control law. the president is going to meet with law enforcement officials and community leaders at the police academy in denver. now, not far from the movie theater in the suburb of aurora where a gunman opened fire, killing 12 people just last summer, here was colorado's governor earlier today on "the daily rundown". >> what we want to do is make sure we keep guns from getting into the wrong people's hands. as long as we focus on that -- colorado has a great history of gun tradition. >> adding to the optics of the president's trip, the gun control bill expected to hit the senate floor after congress reconvict seens on monday and the administration throwing up the heisman as to whether the presid