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fighting gun violence, the parents of slain chicago teen hadiya pendleton join us with details on their meeting with new york's mayor michael bloomberg. also, hillary clinton's unfinished business. >> human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights, once and for all. >> let's keep telling the world over and over again that yes, women's rights are human rights, and human rights are women's rights, once and for all. thank you all so much. >> coming up, we're going to take you live to the women in the world summit where andrea mitchell will interview ambassador susan rice, a short time ago. rutgers athletic director, tim pernetti is out in the wake
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of the video. and the kid president finally meets the grown-up president. >> i think you should try to sit behind the desk, so you look a little more official. >> hello? >> is it even on? >> no. >> make sure that you don't cause any international incidents. >> we're told he did not cause any international incidents, i'm peter alexander live in washington. in for my friend andrea mitchell. after five years she gets a breather. today's disappointing employment report is yet another sign of a stalling u.s. economy. as it turned out the lack of jobs actually helped lower the jobless rate to 7.6%. last month in march, with a half million people stopping their search for work altogether. the national labor force plummeted to its lowest rate since jimmy carter was president.
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with washington of course getting a lot of the blame. and joining us here is our daily fix guest today, senior political editor, mark murray on set. what does this report mean politically, most significantly for the white house that had been claiming a lot of progress just a couple of weeks ago. >> politically, not good news at all. you look at numbers, everyone was expecting 190,000, 200,000 jobs created. but this 80 is less than half of that. everyone was celebrating a great jobs report last month. democrats were celebrating, republicans were silent. now it's the opposite. republicans are criticizing the administration, you have democrats that are silent. in one thing to note about the economy, it never is as bad as it seems, but it's never as good as it seems, either. that's the position that it's been in for the past year or so. >> agendawise, how does this impact the president as he tries to focus on so many things on his plate. >> i think you'll hear him need that they need to eliminate the
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sequester and you're going see them as they've unveiled their new budget proposal, there needs to be washington work together to create jobs to make it more sustainable for the country. >> you mentioned the budget, the cry that we'll be refocused on, let's take a look at some of the numbers on that specifically. here are some of the figures, the president calling for $600 billion in new revenue. $400 billion in cuts to health care programs. we were talking about the impact it will have on social security and the challenge that may create. the white house says it's sort of staking out this position for an official i spoke with of genuine compromise. saying it's returning to the figures from back in mid december. what are they going to hear from republicans as we hear from john boehner. >> republicans are saying this is unacceptable on its face, it's a replay of what we were seeing back in december during the fiscal cliff negotiations. what president obama put forward in in the budget is essentially his last offer to house speaker
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john boehner, before boehner walked away and went to the plan b. >> we thought they were so close then. >> sometimes they are so close, it's been clear that boehner, republicans, don't have the votes to be able to do anything that president obama is trying to do. obama is trying to have that kind of reasonable middle ground. i'm not sure whether this really moves the needle on the budget politics. he'll be having dinner with another round of senate republicans next week. it keeps that position of the reasonable center that i'm at least willing to move 60%, 70% of the way and they're waiting for republicans to have a similar type of gesture. >> the dinner wednesday night. only hours after the budget comes out. you can imagine what they'll be talking about over appetizers. i want to ask you what progressives will be saying. 450 here's what we heard from democracy for america. they said the news that the democratic president will be openly pushing for cuts to social security benefits is profoundly disturbing.
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shot across the bow for the progressive who is call their neighbors, spent weekends knocking doors and donated millions to re-elect him. are they going to come around? >> they weren't for this when president obama first dangled it. but what was interesting is that a lot of members of congress, particularly from that progressive side. like house leader nancy pelosi pretty much endorsed the chain cpi on social security. he does have cover from elected members. but if president obama is going to be able to put something like this on the table, democrats want a lot in return and that is the revenues and that's what's unacceptable to house republicans. >> the question is what those revenues look like when they're done bargaining over this. today, north korea is warning countries with diplomats in its capital, pyongyang that the recent actions from kim jong un and his military leaders may be a signal it's time to head home. joining us now is ambassador christopher hill. he's dean of international studies at the university of denver. of course served as ambassador to the republic of korea during
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the bush administration. and was lead u.s. negotiator in the six-party talks with north korea. ambassador hill, i appreciate you spending time with us, thank you. >> pleasure. >> you've been a part of past negotiations with north korea, i want to get your sense, your view of the latest movements that we've been reporting on today from there. >> i got to tell you, i was in the diplomatic service for 33 years and i never saw a host government tell embassies to flee for your lives, we can't protect you. and the embassy say, no, we're fine here. so it really, i think is another uptick in the bluster and at this point you almost have to call it buffoonery of this north korean regime. all that said, however, we need to be careful of an incident that could spiral out of control. >> what is your biggest concern? what is that incident that you most fear could happen that creates that spiral? >> well my biggest concern is not the fact that they have missiles. you know i think they're planning a test, it might be in
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connection with kim ill song's 101st anniversary. my biggest concern is on the dmz, the demilitarized zone. which i hasten to add is not very demilitarized. you have north korean troops up against south korean troops and you could have an incident. the second area is offshore where the north koreans have pushed the limit in the past. think the south koreans are feeling a little grouchy these days about the north koreans. we're seeing reports that the south korean economy is beginning to take a hit. so the question is, if the north koreans kind of provoke them, how will the south koreans react? >> so the real unknown in this whole equation is kim jong un. did you ever meet him in the course of the negotiations are you were a part of it? >> no, i never did. the north koreans are proud of their opaqueness, they think that's part of the national security virtue. they don't let you meet people
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they want to hold in reserve. in the case of kim jong un. it could be the fact that they know he's not ready for primetime player and they'll troop him out for the likes of dennis rodman. but maybe not for the likes of you know, professional diplomats. >> christopher hill. >> so give me a better understanding, i mean how much of a wild card is he in this whole equation? >> you know, i think he is part of a set of wikld cards. i think you have a north korean military that's kind of driving the bus here. and you have him, you have chong sun tek. his regent. and i think they are woefully, woefully ignorant of the rest of the world. they don't have a sense of how some of their stuff comes across. they don't really understand when the rest of the world does stuff, you recall the other day when the satire magazine "onion" called kim jong un, the sexiest man in the world and the north
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koreans picked it up as fact. they live in the not so splendid isolation. that's why they can kind of miscalculate easily. >> what is the calculus? ha is the end game for the north korean regime? how do they see this playing out per their desire? >> the key question will be the annual exercise. these are military exercises we've had every single year. wish we had had them in the spring of 1950. it might have prevented the korean war. that winds down by the end of april. so the question is, will the north koreans kind of wind down? maybe shoot off a missile test. sort of another sign of their vir i virility. you can see the u.s. is trying to be very careful not to escalate the rhetoric. and to try to keep calm on a rhetorical level. but keep faith with the south korean allies. so i guess if that can kind of
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continue -- if that scenario works out, we can get through, get through the latest bout. clearly the north koreans have been trying to showcase this guy's leadership as standing up to the united states. standing up to the world as war-time leader. whether that really works with people, i'm not so sure. >> i want to get a sense of your view, the american response. are you satisfied that the u.s. is doing what it should be doing right now? we heard the russian foreign minister saying he's in contact with china and the u.s. that could be significant if russia and china start to help out. >> i think the u.s. response has been very good. i'm pretty pleased that we have a senior official, the secretary of state getting out to the region. i kind of wished that had happened a little earlier. but that's fine. at least they're getting out there. i think we need to be very close contact with the chinese. we've been in close contact with the south koreans. they've had some visits to washington recently. overall, i give the administration very high marks
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on how they've handled this. >> ambassador chris hill, joining frus denver, thank you very much. the parents of slain 15-year-old chicago teen hadiya pendleton taking a stand against gun violence and andrea is interviewing ambassador susan rice, this is "andrea mitchell reports," only on msnbc. [ mom ] 3 days into school break and they're already bored. hmm, we need a new game. ♪ that'll save the day. ♪ so will bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. the only one with trap + lock technology. look! one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less. with the small but powerful picker upper, bounty select-a-size.
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back with more "andrea mitchell reports," other headlines for you today, a man linked to a white sprex sift group has been arrested in connection to the murder of tom clements, the colorado prisons chief killed at his home last month. el paso county, colorado police say james lore was brought in for questioning, no word from
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investigators on whether he'll be charged with that murder. six people are dead from an outbreak of bird flu in china. the virus was detected in p ede pigeons. health officials in that country say there's no evidence that the virus is easily spreading between residents in the area. at least 45 people are dead and dozens more injured in mumbai, india, after a residential building under construction collapsed. that partial structure was built illegally on forest land, the victims include residents and construction workers living at the site. mumbai police are expected to arrest the builders, just as soon as they can find them. and legendary film critic, roger ebert. as you likely heard yesterday, died after a long battle with cancer. thyroid cancer took away his ability to speak, but the critics just forged on reviewing
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we are back and as we promised, a major summit under way this week in new york to address global women's rights, we want to take you to that live right now where our own andrea mitchell is interviewing u.n. ambassador susan rice on stage. the topic right now, north korea. >> and to do what it would take to insure north korea's security. insure its potential economic development and that's uphold its international obligations and come into compliance with u.n. sanctions. now obviously thus far he seems to be pushing the enervelope. but for the united states' point of view, our interest is reminding him and those around him of the benefits of an alternative peaceful course, insuring that from our point of view, the united states and our allies are fully capable of defending ourselves, should there be a need to do so. and not, getting too jumpy when he wakes up in the morning and issues yet another provocative
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statement. >> but here you have a forward-deployed army, only miles from our south korean and american forces. and you've got him talking about using tactical nukes. when does rhetoric edge into an area where because we have so little intelligence on his intentions, we have a real military threat on our hands? >> well under the most thing to recall is that the united states is ready. to do what it takes to defend ourselves and defend our allies in the region. should that be necessary. our aim remains that there be deescalation of these tensions and ideally, addressing the nuclear threat through the negotiating table. and we're going to continue to underscore that that is our intention, our intentions are not belligerent. but obviously if need be, we'll do what it takes to defend our allies and ourselves. >> why aren't the chinese doing more? >> the chinese have been quite
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interesting. i negotiate with them in the security council, i've negotiated multiple rounds now of sanctions against north korea. and the resolution that we passed most recently in february was the strongest yet. and now north korea is cumulatively facing the most robust sanctions -- >> can't china really pressure him to realize that he is further isolating himself. that he won't get anything for this. >> china can do more. it's implementing the sanctions that they have agreed to, that we negotiated and passed. but clearly with the border they have, with the economic relationship that they have, they can do more. but what's interesting about china's stance now, is that you can tell by the nature of their statements, by the nature of their actions, that unlike in the past, they also are very much of the view that kim jong un has gone too far. and that this now is a situation that has the potential to
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directly threaten their interests in the region. both economic and security. so we remain in very close communication with the chinese, the russians and the south korea and japan, are allies in the region, about a collective way to deal with the threat and the reality is we're united. the rest of the world in insuring that the threat is contained. and kim jong un and north korea are increasingly isolated, including from china. >> let's talk about egypt. because there is growing concern about the role of women, the women of tahrir square, now not only not at the table, but being subjects, targets of increasing violence and abuse. and also, the morsi government is doing. today president morsi has tweeted that our ambassador, ann patterson, has called officials in the egyptian government, and not the president himself, and apologized for tweeting out a jon stewart link to jon stewart
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defending and satirizing morsi for their arrest warrant against the man known as the egyptian jon stewart, the satirist who makes fun of morsi. we're now in a position where the cairo embassy is apologizing for a tweet to the egyptian government and also the twitter feed has gone silent out of cairo. first of all the complications of the social media in diplomacy perhaps this is a new challenge for the state department. but how do we deal with the self-censorship of our diplomats in these environments? >> well andrea, i'm not able to comment specifically 0en what ambassador patterson may or may not have communicated today to the egyptian government. but there, there have been a lot of comments out of the egyptian government are respect to media
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freedom, freedom of speech, openness. that we frankly think are worrying. the fact is that when things are going wrong, when women are being abused and attacked and raped in public squares, when satirists are unable to engage in harmless satire -- those are issues of gravest concern to the united states. and we have and we will continue to speak out about that. now when the preferred vehicle is a short-handed tweet, which is becoming perhaps a new form of diplomacy, or better, the communications in public and private that we're more accustomed to that are little bit more formal for things of this gravity, we can discuss and debate. i'm an avid user of twitter, and i enjoy it very much. but there are some things i will not do or say on twitter. because i think it sort of cheapens the coin of the
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message. and so i do think we need to be as diplomats, mindful of the medium as well as very much committed to getting out the appropriate message. >> i want to ask you about the role of women in this administration. there's some criticism that among the top cabinet positions, we no longer have a woman. hillary clinton is gone, you are not secretary of state. >> i'm in the cabinet. >> i'm just talking about the top four defense, state, treasury, justice. is the administration, is the white house not as committed as it should be to strong women in leadership positions? your own experience? >> in my own experience, i think that's a completely bogus criticism, to be quite honest. i've worked very closely with president obama from not just the beginning of this administration, but many years before that i know him to be a man who is very, very
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comfortable around and very committed to having around him very strong women with opinions that they are not shy about communicating. that's my experience, i think secretary clinton would tell you that's her experience. i'm sure that michelle obama would tell you that's her experience and many of the other women who have served at the most senior levels in the cabinet. and i think you have to look at the cabinet as a totality. we had a very strong cabinet in the first term. we're going to have a very strong cabinet. including with a large number of women in the second term. we're going to senate ruling and fingers crossed have women in interior, women at omb, which is a very important job. and many other places and we still continue to have secretary sebelius, secretary napolitano and many other strong women. >> some cabinet women have told me privately that the white house holds the reins and holds them very tightly and even that hillary clinton for all of her celebrity and her experience,
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was on a short leash in terms of policy. she had her own agenda and her own issues and obviously was hugely successful. but that the national security council, the national security adviser and now his deputy as the new chief of staff, really dictated policy. to the foreign policy professionals. i think the president makes policy. and i do sit at the principal's committee table with the other cabinet-level national security officials. and now going on five years doing that. i can tell you that we all have a voice. we all have input. the president is very solicitous not only of the views of the members of cabinet sitting around the table, but those around the wall, the deputies and he puts the recommendations together and ultimately makes a decision and i have not ever felt that on the most critical
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issues that my voice hasn't been heard. it doesn't mean that i've been on the winning side of every issue, but i've always felt that my perspective was taken seriously. that i had a full opportunity to air it and the issues were weighed and debated in an open and transparent way. now you know, different presidents and different administrations model their national security architecture in different ways. we do have an active and energetic national security staff and national security council. but i found that process to work to the advantage of the president in terms of his ability to get the information he needs to make the best decisions. >> you've been listening to part of the conversation between our very own andrea mitchell on the right and the u.n. ambassador, susan rice, a variety of topics on tap at this women in the world global women's rights events taking place, the summit in new york. nice to check in and see how andrea is doing. we have other news we'll share
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with you coming up after the break. we talk with the parents of the slain 15-year-old girl, hadiyah pendleton and their personal mission against gun swri lens. and a short time from now, president obama's budget compromise, we break it down with white house economic adviser, gene spurling. [ heart beating, monitor beeping ] woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate increases ] man: a few inches of water caused all this?
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we are back now on "andrea mitchell reports," it's of course been two months since the 15-year-old hadiyah pendleton was gunned down in chicago in what was an apparent case of mistaken identity and only days after performing at the presidential inauguration. her parents have now joined in the effort to push for tighter gun control. they met just yesterday with mayor michael bloomberg. >> the pain in the pendle tons' voices when i talked to them this morning would break any parents' heart and as the father two of daughters it's impossible to imagine what they're going
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through. but their pain is something that far too many parents have to live with every single day. too often young people are the innocent victims of gun violence and too often young people are also the ones doing the shooting. >> joining us now, live from new york, nate and cleo pendleton, hadiyah pendleton's parents. i appreciate you spending some time with us today and i want to extend our sincere condolences to you for your loss, the topic of conversation today is your conversation with mayor michael bloomberg. i'm curious to get a sense inside that conversation, what did the mayor tell you? did he offer you any assurances or give you a sense of how confident he is that something will get done? >> well you know, the mayor offered his condolences, very sympathetic to what's happened to our family. you know, as with many other people that we encounter, there are words that can actually comfort us. however, he did talk about the issue of gun violence.
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and the fact that you know, as was quoted in the clip, you know, it's primarily the ages between 16hand 25 where these illegal guns are being utilized, and used for senseless crimes. >> i want to get a sense from you, cleo, if i can the frustration as you witness all of us in washington, d.c. in the nation's capital talking about the challenges that exist, that the assault weapons ban seems like a near impossibility. even background checks which so many americans as the president has indicated, seems to be so difficult. is the way that politics works in this country. can you articulate that frustration as a parent who experienced victimization as a result of gun violence. >> it's very heartbreaking, it's very upsetting that something as simple as a background check would be as complex. to someone who has not as politically indine clined, you would think that those sensible things that would make citizens
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safer. such as the background check as well as the bill that is currently on the table that has my daughter's name in it. would be almost easily passed. given the statistics that are out there that show you know a lot of folks in favor of these things. >> nate and cleo, as we speak to you, we want to let you and the audience know, that a white house press briefing is taking place and the press secretary has said the first lady of the united states will head to chicago on wednesday of next week to try to encourage congress to pass stricter gen control laws. i nate, i pose to you the issue of chicago, hand guns are the primary focus. in chicago the majority of murders are caused not by assault weapons, but by hand guns in 2012, the chicago murder rate topped 500. are you satisfied with the changes that are taking place in your hometown, by mayor emanuel to try to crack down on that? >> well for now, yeah.
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but i would really rather see no violence. it's it's just really -- it's mind boggling how these guns are getting to kids. i don't understand how it's happening. but as long as i'm sure that rahm emanual is doing his very best to put in gun laws to try to lessen the amount of guns that end up on the street. >> the two of you were together at the white house easter egg roll a couple of days ago, had a chance to visit with the first family there as well. you have in your family, a 10-year-old son still living in the city of chicago. i want to get a sense as a parent who has experienced this, what do you say to your son, a 10-year-old who still lives in communities where the potential for violence every evening is so, is so big what do you tell him, what is the message to him?
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>> the potential for violence is in every community. it's not that he's in an area that you know, is high crime and we're looking over our shoulder every two seconds. you know in fear for our lives. that's not the community that we are raising our children in. this, what happened to our child is just unfortunate, in terms of the element finding us. so in regards to my son, we're not encouraging him to be fearful. we're encouraging him to go about his life every day, simply missing his sister and mourning for his sister, but encouraging him to focus on his days and be the best young man he can be. >> he has definitely the right to go wherever he wants to go. >> most certainly, we appreciate you guys spending some time with us today. nate and cleo pendleton and we look forward to the conversations with you in the days ahead as the first lady heads to your home city of chicago. >> thank you. other news making headlines
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today, president obama's proposed cuts to social security are a miniajor concession to republicans, gene spurling is the direct of of president obama's national economic council and is kind enough to join us from the white house north lawn. thanks for joining us today, appreciate it. speaker boehner pointed out a short time ago he had some issues with this directly saying the increased revenues in the president's budgets, i think the number is $600 billion, that the white house is not heeding republicans' call for no new tax revenue. what's your response to the house speaker? >> the president's goal is to have an overall economic strategy, good for jobs strengthening the middle class. we recognize that a piece of that strategy has to be a serious effort to deal with the long-term deficit issue. to try to have a more sensible way of doing this than this sequester we have in place. we were very close to an
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agreement with speaker boehner. that included serious entitlement savings and spending cuts. but it also included having reasonable amount of revenues, overall the package is more than $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in revenue. what the president has done is kept the same offer to the speaker on the table that we had in december. the speaker himself had put forward $1 trillion in revenue and has unfortunately pulled back any revenue even though only about 60% of that was done in the fiscal plan. so all the president is doing is asking for what i think everybody in the american public would like, who would like to see stronger job growth and like to see an economy doing better and better. for the middle class, is that we compromise and have saens of fairness and balance. >> it's the word, obviously, mr. spurling, balance, that creates a lot of the conversation there
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in the nation's capital here as well. given the fact that there's two different perspectives, of this idea of balance. >> i want to talk about what's going to take place next wednesday, the president is going to meet with a series of senate republicans, his second sort of charm over as the media likes to describe it. senator isaacson is the one bringing everybody together. how will the plan go and where do you see the soft spots? >> well the president said, he's looking for a caucus of common sense, people on both sides realized that if we're going to strengthen the economy, strengthen jobs, no one's going to get 100% of what they want. there will be some entitlement reform that's going to be politically difficult that's done for the desire of strengthening important programs like medicare. also that you have to be willing to make tough choices everywhere. i don't think most americans
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believe, i think there's a lot of republicans who don't believe, either. that you can't get another penny. not one single penny of revenue. from the most flawed special interest tax cut or loophole or tax expenditure that benefits the most well-off americans. the kind of balance plan we want, is one that i think has great support. and i think that there are republicans in the senate who see that the president is serious. that see that he's putting forward things that are politically difficult. >> understood. i want to interrupt you only because our time is limited here and i want to ask you specifically about the new jobs numbers that came out today. of 496,000 decline in labor participation. the lowest participation rate since jimmy carter was president, since may of 1979. what does the white house put this on? what does the white house blame for this, the payroll tax cut expiring? or the result of the sequester? what do you say it's because of?
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>> we have a job market that is still healing. 500,000 jobs that have been created in the first quarter, these three months, that's very solid. not nearly as good as we would like. labor force participation, has been declining. for over a decade, for overwhelmingly reasons that have do to do with our population trends and our demographics. that's something that the previous administration, the bush council of economic advisers recognized and projected. so most of what we're seeing reflects that degree. of demographic change. >> obviously this month was not as strong as we'd like and it's one of the reasons why we shouldn't be doing anything to put more barriers in front of this economy. we're trying to still recover from the great recession, and we have a long ways to go. we should be doing everything to take down barriers and doing things like having this degree of manufactured crisis or
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squister, it jut puts additional barriers at a time we should be trying to lay a foundation for stronger job growth and economic security for the middle class. >> we appreciate you visiting with us from the white house, gene spurling, thank you very much. thank you. we're following breaking news, coming from rutgers university, where the athletic director, tim pernetti. has resigned. after the head basketball coach was fired after a practice tape surfaced showing the former coach berating his players with homophobic slurs, throwing basketballs at them. the rutgers university president is now speaking, we want to listen to him. >> we spent hours in discussion over the course of the past week. and his decision ultimately to resign was his decision and one that we came to mutually. >> is this the last head to
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roll? >> they're coming for you next. >> have you learned something, have you learned something about the role of athletics, big-time athletics i don't believe was in your personal, professional resumé. did you ever anticipate that something in the athletic department -- >> obviously athletics, the intercollegiate athletics report to me as provost. athletics are not quite the same as the program here. one of the things that i found the most heartening when i came here was to see the level of commitment to academics that our athletics program has and to see the amount of time that our student athletes spend to realize that our football players practice in the morning, so that they can have the afternoon to study and go to classes. that was very, very heartening to me. obviously i've been in this business for a long time.
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hide kamp, joe donnelly and bill nelson. there are some holdouts, people who haven't shift on the position, landrieu, pryor, and what holdout is for those folks. are you thinking at any point they do come around to this? >> probably the biggest consideration for the holdouts is how it may or may not impact them politically when they come up for re-election. for instance, senator mary landrieu is up for re-election in 2014. a lot of the people who have announced their support for same-sex marriage, they're all over the map. they're in red states and blue states. they were either just elected, such as senators heitkamp and do not he widonnelly, or would be portman who was the first sitting republican to come out for same-sex marriage, he is up for re-election in 2016. a lot of people who say, who criticize him for not doing so
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earlier for political considerations need to take into account that in 2016, the people in the state of ohio might hold him accountable for the position he's taken. >> do you think given the fact that the headlines have waned in some way, we've reached the end of the shift right now? or is there still more capital? more opportunity for it to take place? >> there's always more opportunity for people to be on the right side of history. the secretary republican senator to come out was senator mark kirk of illinois. and the key thing to point out here is that all this, all this week, we have seen one, sometimes two senators come out in favor of same-sex marriage with the exception of wednesday. we had one monday, two tuesday, one yesterday, two today, and for the first time, we now have 53 senators in favor of marriage equality.
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>> let me ask about something you wrote about today. the attorney general of the great sunshine state of california. you said in your headline after the president said complimentary things about her being the most attractive a.g. in america, you said obama was right about cammala harris. was he write to say it? >> look, kamala harris and the president are long time friends, personal friends. it is not like the compliment on the attorney general's looks was the only thing he said. he prefaced it by saying, she is dedicated, tough, there is no one better. obvious stating the obvious. and joshing among friends saying that she is by far the best looking attorney general. as i say in my piece, you know, lighten up, folks. i know that gets me in trouble but really, lighten up. >> i don't think ken cuccinelli thought he would get that anyhow. by the way, jonathan will join us again a little bit later when he fills in on "the cycle" right
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