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dangerous, but the threat is not over. barbie plays a role in this week's office politics, i spoke to barbie co-creator liz win stead. some big developments today in the ongoing tensions with north korea. a senior defense official confirms that north korea has delayed a ballistic missile test. and soldiers are training there with military dogs. this video is being broadcast on north korea state tv. here's senator john mccain earlier today. >> this is a serious situation, no doubt about it. south korea would win, we would win, if there's an all out conflict, but the fact is that north korea could set seoul on fire, and that would be a controversy of enormous
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proportions. i don't know what kind of game this young man is playing, it's obviously brinksmanship. >> you could definitely hear urgency in senator john mccain's voice from earlier this morning. we have heard from senior administration officials here at the white house saying they're are taking the threats from north korea alarming. and also we're hearing from south korea that say are saying that north korea might have some form of missile launch again this week. again this weekend, massive rallys, soldiers lining up as far as the eye can see, as the north korean regime threatens more. with pyongyang closing the border, more south koreans returned home saturday. but most foreign diplomats have
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chosen to stay, despite north korea's warning that it can't guarantee their safety in the event of a conflict. the wild card experts insist remains kim jong-un, the north's untested young leader. >> you got a lot of north korean troops right up against south korean troops and in the absence of hot lines and various other means of communication, you could have some incident. >> white house officials describe the north korean regime as deliberate and provocative. the obama administration is increasingly leaning on china, north korea's closest ally. two u.s. destroyers are already in place. it's a delicate balance, china has routinely frustrated the u.s. in its dealings with north korea in the past. but the white house says it's optimistic china's position is evolving.
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and heading to that region, secretary of state john kerry with stops scheduled in seoul and beijing late next week. in hopes of preventing a further crisis. >> and a meeting was scheduled to take places between here and washington. the chairman of our joint chiefs martin democrat -- top military leader in south korea means that rising tensions means he really needs to stay at home right now. to politics and new today, president obama's senior advisors hitting back at the critics of the president's proposed budget. >> what's in the president's budget is the offer that he put speaker boehner, it shows one, the president's serious about trying to find a balanced solution to our deficits and have a comprehensive economic
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plan. >> and new reaction today from republicans to the president's budget that he's expected to send to congress on wednesday. >> the president showing a little bit of leg here, this is somewhat encouraging, his overall budget is not going to make it. but he has sort of made a step forward in the titlement program that allow a guy like me to talk about flattening the tax code and generating more revenue. >> welcome to both of you, i got a kick out of the president showing a little leg. i think that must be some southern euphemism there. you heard senator graham highlighting the president's budget, is he a little bit too optimistic? >> on the hill last week when some of these details kind of started to percolate, and certainly in the house, speaker
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boehner was kind of not excited about this and i would, you know, expect that that's going to continue and you're not going to see a lot of optimism from a lot of house republicans on this. >> let's take a listen to a little bit of what republican senator graham had to say this morning. here's it is. >> there are some parts of his budget that i think are optimistic, it's an overall 3w5d plan for the economy, but we're beginning to set the stage for the grand bargain. >> is this a sign that other republicans are going to be willing to work with the president on this budget and maybe democrats won't. >> lindsay graham is the guy who came up p with the invite list of that dinner that the president had with republican senators and this is all about trying to bring republican snars on board into negotiations and to isolate the house republicans, because the house republicans are just giving no give. the sense is if you could come up with a grand bargain that could pass muster in the senate
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with republicans and democrats, the house would eventually just have to break down and get to the bargaining table. but they're still a long way away, i mean lindsay graham has been talking about using tax reform to raise tax revenues for quite some time. he's not exactly a break through here. but, you know, the fact that his budget was greeted hostilely by democrats and some liberal republicans, you could say that's a bad sign, but you could also say that's a good sign. >> in terms of a timetable, is this a long time off or not? >> it is not a long timetable because the republicans say they need to get some traction by july, that's the next time that congress has to raise the debt ceiling. oh, no, we're going to be back there. and the president has said he needs to get something done probably before 2014 when the election cycle comes in, although we have a lot of
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negotiations to go here, we don't have a lot of time and if you're not seeing real traction by may, june, it's not going to happen. >> yeah, and a couple of key events to the president when he heads to hartford, connecticut for a speech to promote gun control measures, and monday he's got that dinner with gop senators and the like. there is this quote from a usa today articlea says no one expects any breakthroughs when the republicans and democrats get together for a second dinner. is this a foundation, is this laying some ground work that the president can work to use for the next 3 1/2 years for people on both sides of the aisle? >> i think in terms of what he's doing on gun control in connecticut, that's certainly trying to continue to force the issue and you know, he's really up against 12 senate republicans who now are on board with rand
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paul who say they're going to filibuster any gun legeislation he's trying to make a good faith effort and he wants to work on this and if there's going to be any break through at all on a grand bargain, a lot is going to have to happen to get the republican leadership on board. >> you can bet that the president will also be talking about guns with those senate republicans because what he noticed is, look, if he can point to polls that say 90% of the american people support universal background checks on guns, but you do not have very much support, if any, at all among republicans in the senate, it's not a question of rallying the public, the public already is behind him. he needs to do those kind of personal overtures to republicans in the senate. you know when he did that first round of the charm offensive, it had an impact.
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republicans were flattered. they liked the attention from the president and the president feel -- >> you wrote about this or contributed to the "new york times" article titled background checks are still stumbling block in gun control laws. why is that a stumbling block. >> the republicans don't feel the political pressure on this, in fact they see the real political pressure hitting red state democrats who are up in 2014. they feel like if they can hold together and hold unified together against background checks, you're going to see the real splintering on the democratic side and thus far, they certainly don't see political consequences to opposing this. i think, you know, it's amazing, the white house really thought that the pain and the political
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impetus that came out of newtown would carry on for months and months later. here we are, and we're only three or four months later and you don't feel that in washington, of course you have felt it in connecticut and maryland and new york and colorado all of which have passed major gun control legislation since newtown, but washington, you're not feeling that kind of pressure. >> how about immigration, anna, because you wrote about that with regard to the next few weeks as really being a critical phase for the administration, why is that? >> actually senator graham talked about this on television saying that're going to potentially revisit the low skilled worker for future flow, which has been one of the most contentious issues and you're going to be looking at in the next week or so, the senators have said, the gang of eight have said that they want to roll out their plan, but what we have heard from people who have been working on this during the two-week congressional recess,
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it's not clear exactly when they're going to be rolling this out. is this going to be a plan? there's a lot of nervousness about where some of these senate republicans are in terms of rubio and actually signing on to a potential deep. the worst attack in the afghanistan -- suicide bomber detonated his vehicle on the road as an american convoy passed. among the dead, two american soldiers and a foreign service diplomat. she is the first foreign service officer killed on the job since last year's attack in benghazi, senator john kerry spoke about her in turkey. kerry was with consulate workers in benghazi. >> everything that our country stands for, everything we stand for is embodied in what ann
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smettinhoff stood for. off to exciting, challenging, unbelievable undertaking in one of the toughest places on earth. >> kerry declared american diplomats a top priority. another tragedy, evangelical pastor and his wife are mourning the death of their youngest son matthew. what can you tell us about how the community is holding up? >> alex, good morning, sunday services are underway as we speak and i can tell you these are going to be sad, somber services. everyone is still so stunned from the loss of the warren's son. they told me they feel like saddleback is more of a family than anything and last night that family came together in a show of support. the church was packed with
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parishioners on saturday night, but the pastor was not there. >> their son matthew died earlier this week and they are facing that together, walking through that together. >> 27-year-old matthew warren shot himself friday. in a letter to saddleback members, rick and his wife kay wrote about their son, he was an incredible kind and compassionate man, but only those closest know that he struggled with mental health from birth. dark holes of depression and dark thoughts. in spite of counselors and prayers for healing, the torture of mental illness never subsided. >> pastor warren is using this opportunity to say, hey, we can do the best we can do and still fail. >> it's a trademark quality of warren's delivering down to earth ministry. his new york best seller, "the
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purpose driven life" sold a million copies turning the -- >> warren's often been called upon to help heal the nation in times of tragedy. now in the face of his own loss, friends say faith will sustain him. >> are they going to miss him? terribly, i mean it's devastating for them. do they know he's in a better place? yes, and there's some comfort from that. >> those who know warren say they expect him to preach about depression and suicide. >> i think we're going to see some of the best of rick warren that we have ever seen. >> there's been some rumors that the pastor might be here at today's services but we have just been told by a spokesperson that he will be spending the day his family. a story about higher
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some headlines making news out on the west coast. the seattle times has a front page article. last minute pay raises have -- it could wind up -- the press telegram in long beach, california has the headlines degrees of difficulty. it's about how in the greater los angeles area, about half of all community college students transfer, graduate or earn a degree within six years. as we told you a short while ago, a big -- south korean
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military official has postponed a visit to the u.s. joining me now to assess the developing situation. maryland democratic senator ben carden, a member of the senate committee. sir, it certainly sounds like south korea and the u.s. are trying to bring the temperature downing a little bit here, is it your sense that the situation is deescalating right now? >> it's still very tense. we have a young untested leader in north korea. the cutting off of communication is certainly a very troublesome sign. it's an explosive situation, so i think we are right to try to do everything we can to tone it down. north korea has done this before, but it does present to us system serious challenges. >> indeed, well here's the president's senior advisor and he's talking about a possible north korea missile test. here this is. >> if north korea launches a missile, will the united states shoot it downing?
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>> i'm not going to get into hypotheticals here, but we have seen reports about north korea testing missiles. and we wouldn't be surprised, they have done this in the past. >> so it wouldn't necessarily trigger a u.s. response? >> i'm not going to say that here on sunday morning. >> what can you tell about whether north korea is capable of launching a missile on u.s. territory anywhere. >> our concern is about our allies in the nation, south korea, japan, other countries in that region. as far as direct attacks against the united states, i don't think that's the major threat concern, but obviously the security of that region is very much in the u.s. national interest. so these threats are very serious to the united states. >> indeed and we heard senator john mccain earlier on the sunday talk shows and he was talking about how they could actually set seoul on fire, so
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that is certainly to your point. how do you see this playing out? is it going to be like past situations where all the bluster of north korea is going to blow over or do you sense that this is different? >> this is a young leader, we don't know that much about him about what he's likely to do. north korea has done this before, they have raised the temperature at times in order to get international attention. they are clearly aspiring to the u.n. actions, the key player here could very well be china and how china can help turn the temp down, the president said, look, it's in both our natural interests to get north korea to back down. >> wednesday the president will be putting forth what he calls a balanced approach to his plan on the budget, including some tax hikes but also some cuts in
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social security and medicare, so will the democrats buy into any of those cuts? >> the president will -- in order to reach a compromise, both sides need to listen to each other and make compromises. we know that we have to bring down the cost of mandatory spending, we would like to do that in a way that doesn't affect beneficiaries, but we are open to suggestions, so i think it was a positive step on behalf of the president in order to submit a budget that will hopefully bring democrats and republicans together. it's in our national interest to compromise on a budget and get things moving forward. you saw the jobs report that were not as strong as we wanted them to be, sequestration is definitely hurting our economy, it's hurting people. we need to come together as a congress and find a solution to this problem. >> is that what you blame for the unemployment numbers dropping? is the sequestration, what else
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welcome back to weekends with alex wit. now headlines at the half. authorities around florida's gulf coast are looking for a couple accused of kidnapping their 2 and 4-year-old boys, they had their parental rights served last week and the couple has been suicidal and have recently talked about their trip to armageddon. china's reporting three more cases of a new strain of bird flu, three more cases now 21, people are contracting the virus with direct contact with infected foul. roger ebert's funeral is set for monday. ebert died on thursday at the age of 70 after a battle with
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cancer. former chief economist to vice president biden. experts expected the economy to add about 200,000 jobs. whoops, fell really short, 88,000, only, how surprised were you? >> i was pretty surprised, but these numbers have been pretty bouncy month to month, in fact frankly i was surpriseded by february's result that was all higher than i thought it would be. we actually added 268,000 in february. so what you have to do to get a better feel for what the underlying trend is to average out some of these monthly numbers. if you do that you'll find that we're adding about 168,000 jobs in the first quarter of this year, which isn't great by any reasonable measure, but better than we heard for march. >> here's a comment by austan
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goolsby. >> we all overshot it, this is a bun punch to the gut, this is not a good number. i think now when we start seeing a lot of discussion about maybe the sequester is a bigger deal. >> actually you were right there on that panel. so you really know what was said. what's to blame here? is it the sequester? is it the payroll tax? >> more payroll tax probably than the sequester, we don't know either for certain. i don't think the sequester is a big deal in these numbers yet. i think what austin was suggesting is that the sequester is going to bite more in furlows, that really haven't taken effect. you kind of want it to take effect from a higher level than where we're at right now. if the sequester is coming, it's coming from a job markets that's already pretty weak. but the payroll tax break which ended starting in january may be
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in these numbers. we saw for example that retail sales were down 24,000 in terms of jobs, that could be because people are feeling more of a pinch in their paychecks. >> so do you agree with what i read, which is the sequester affects are going to be back loaded to the second half of the year? that's where we're going to be able to point to the sequester and say that's it right there? >> maybe sequester took 10,000 jobs out of that number. so if it had been 98,000, we would be having a similar conversation, so yes, more back loaded. >> what about the retail sector that lost about 24,000 jobs. how is that an indicator of where the economy is overall? >> i think it's a pretty important number, with the davenpocalv caveat that these numbers can jump around. this is a big driver of retail sales. you'll see that for most people,
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wages have been flat for worse, falling relative to inflation, meanwhile corporate profitability is very high. so there's that inekwaulgt there. you take the payroll tax break out of the picture and people are squeezed in their wallet and it's one of the reasons why this economy has just not gotten the liftoff that we have been searching for a while. >> i want to look at a graph that we have, that looks at the markets over the last three years. look at the dow, it's gone more than 100% since february of 2009. my question, are big countries, should the public be angry another the government or the private sector over jobs? >> well, i think the issue -- it's a good question. the issue with the dow has a lot to do with basically who benefits when the stock market goes up. it's not just the rich or the top 1%. there's a lot of 401(k)s in there, and there's a lot of people who feel wealthier when
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the dow goes up. the corporate profitability, the dow and your paycheck is important -- in terms of who to blame, that's an important question, and i actually believe that government policy is a problem right now. we talked about the sequester, we talked be the payroll tax cuts, we talked about all these fiscal traps that are pushing exactly the wrong way. it's sort oflike congress should take a hip cat tick oath and say do no harm. . >> jared bernstein, if only. thank you so much. in today's office politics, author and co-creator of the daily show, liz winstead, here we talk about her devoted family, how barbie inspired her as a girl and her exciting book, "live before you die." i asked her about humor to help
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educate the country on women's reproductive rights and why she's so passionate about it. >> there's never been a time in the history of mankind, that there's been an age of abstinence, did you ever hear of an age of abstinence? to me, i think sex is fun and a lot of things are wonderful and kids often start having it and people have it maybe when they're not emotionally ready, maybe when they haven't had the conference of people who help them make safe choices about sex, some people have sex and they're married and they can't afford another kid, the decisions that people make, the one thing that i know is not correct is that i want to reduce the number of abortions and the way to do that is to reduce all access to birth control. that's all the policies that are coming down the pike. if you say that, you're really
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not serious, you're not talking about reproductive health anymore, you're talking about control. and i really don't like when i hear about anybody trying to control anybody's reproducttive health. but what you're really trying to go is control not only their economic destiny, but their physical destiny as well. i want everybody on the planet to be able to pursue the best health and the way to do that is to be able to make choices about when and if you decide to have kids. >> with regard to your upbringing, reading this, we're going to show it, look at the entire book. >> it's coming out next month. >> may 7. >> "live free or die." >> new material right on the cover. it's got some wonderful, wonderful essays, and a couple of them, despite you being one of the funniest women on the
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planet brought me to tears and that is the story of your father and after his passing, the cards that you guys opened up, i mean you clearly adore your family. and there are a lot of people who think that comedians come from a really dark place. not you. >> yes, i mean i come from a dark place in the sense of i was a little girl who from a really young age, i didn't like conventional things. i didn't like babies, i don't like baby dolls. >> but you liked bar bibarbie had a car, she had cool clothes. i looked at barbie as freedom. because barbie was not a toy that you played with to sort of take on a conventional role of what women were supposed to be. i could project a lot on to barbie and, boy, did i.
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so for me it was just this struggle to constantly people having, not wanting me to be curious, that seemed inconvenient to adults, like stop thinking about that. don't you just want to like play with your doll and then we'll give you a stove and then we'll give you stuff and an ironing board and those are toys. i was like those aren't toys, those are appliances over which my mother would sob over. about eight months before dad died and he had my niece take a picture of him hugging himself and to give us all a photo the christmas 56 his passing. we all burst out crying because it was having this piece of dad always be with us. and we all just looked at the picture and my poor sister mary, had given us all a picture of all of us from her wedding, and the same christmas and it was
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like, yeah, that's it. oh, so i felt really bad for her because she had given us this beautiful picture of our entire family. yes, i know. he's the enemy of joy. this dog is the enemy of joy. >> the dog is so cute, how could that be? >> "live free or die" comes out in paper back on may 7. next weekend -- the president's strategy in his budget battle next. into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. [ robert ] we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side.
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and march madness ends monday with the championship. a plan to strong criticism from both the left and the right. >> what are the odds for a deal this year? >> based on my bracket, i don't think i should be in the predictions business. but there's a good chance both sides will want to compromise, if the republicans particularly in the house take a my way or the highway approach, then we're not going to get a deal. >> the budget includes cuts in medicare and social security which is why some democrats as well as tax hikes on the wealthy which has some republicans downing on -- >> a welcome to you both, thanks for joining me. representative frost, i'll begin with you t congressional caucus
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members already sent the president some scathing letters say this plan is unpopular, it's unwise, its unworkable. why did the president touch social security and medicaid. >> he wants the republicans to agree to some tax increases. we did this in the 1980s when i was in congress. in 1983, we increased the retirement age for social security from 65 to 67. that was very unpopular over time. it was phased in over a period of years, it's still being phased in. it's not completely there. so these are hard choices so if the republicans aren't willing to consider any of the these taxes, why should the democrats go along with these cuts. but at least considering something if republicans will put some tax revenue on the table. >> sir, earlier we heart from lindsay graham who said there are some nuggets in the budget that he minds optimistic, so does that mean there are some things that democrat also take issue with? >> it's going to be
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controversial for everybody, both democrats and republicans. the real hang up on this is that if you ever get to tax reform to increasing revenues, then you've got to cut mortgage interest rates, you've got to cut ch charitable contributions, what people can give to 401(k)s and i iras. >> does this put the president in a better position with republicans? he's compromises on entitlements, republicans are not ready the budge on taxes for the wealthy. >> we'll see how far he's compromising on entitlements and with all due respect to the congressmen, republicans did give in when it came to the fiscal cliff. when the rubber meets the roads we'll look at more serious spending cuts and reducing the size of government. the one thing the president is
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getting good response in regard to what we're hearing is that the change in the cpi which adjusts the leg s ths the level but it's a very, very small part of the debt and deficits we're looking at in this country and there's concern about what price do we pay for that? and are we going to look at much more toax hikes? we'll see how things play out when we actually see what's in the budget. >> if you had to sell one side or the other to the public, doesn't the president's compromise option look good. >> it looks good from a conversational standpoint right now, again, we don't know what ice's in it. it sounds good right now that we need to look at entitlement reform. but when you look at the overall cost of medicaid and social security over the next ten years, we're talking $18
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trillion. so we need to look at much greater entitlement reform, reducing the size of government and we don't need to look at tax increases, specifically where the president and democrats like to put it is on the under income level of americans and those who create jobs. >> alice? >> yeah? >> if i could just correct one piece of information, in the last year noand a half, democra agreed to double the amount of taxes that are levied each year. for the republicans to cry wolf and say we have already raised taxes they haven't come close to the budget cuts that have already been made in the last 18 months. >> could we also look at the unemployment picture with you? as of friday, there's only 88,000 jobs created in march? does this give republicans a talking point about 2 the
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sequestration as part of -- >> the issue of the payroll tax that has been put in effect for two years, the cut in the payroll tax, the 2%, that was reinstated. there are a lot of things that could contribute to this. but the key is the uncertainty and that's why people aren't investing. they don't know what the country is going to do. they don't know if congress is going to get around to solving this deficit problem or not and that's why the biggest reason we have a drop in job creation. >> we have this thank you poll by usa today finds that 50% of voters at least trust the president to make the right decisions on the budget. only 41% sirepublicans are more trust worthy. >> we're talking about insecurity within the job force. i think you hit on it in your last segment when you talked about the uncertainty surrounding sequester as a factor, but also the full effects of obama care, that
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forces companies not to hire because they're not certain about what this will mean. and also, you mentioned specifically large corporations, small businesses which are the backbone of this country, certainly the implementation of obama care is cutting back on their ability to create jobs, we need to look at that and also the fact that the labor participation rate is at the lowest point in many years, while 7.6 looks good on the front end as far as unemployment numbers, as we look down to the contributing factors to that, it's not looking good, what we need to do is invest in job creators in this country and the republicans are certainly doing that? >> the republicans can't stand, they have to keep beating a dead horse. giver it all up folks on the republican side, quit beating that dead horse. >> allison stuart and martin
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a temporary delay for the faa's plan to close down air traffic control towers around the country. but a lawsuit brought on a lost-minute delay. these communities have until june 15 to -- a former investigator with the ntsb. greg, welcome to you, all of these air traffic controllers, like 100,000 of them might lose their jobs as a result of this. it saves the faa $30 million a year, but it says safety will be a top priority. how do you reconcile that? is that possible. >> well, it is and it isibility. there's two sides of this county, one it saves money but what about safety? and has secretary la hood has said, you need to ensure safety.
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you need a certain number of air traffic controllers at each airport to maintain safety. >> why is it that these airports are being targeted is it just because of their size? >> when you look at in the majority of the airports of these 149, the majority of them have less than 50,000 operations a year, and while 50,000 sounds like a lot, in the world of aviation, those kinds of operations, that may be 20 to 25 airplanes in a 24 to 28-hour period if you will. those operations, you know, 24 hours a day, they don't amount to much. it's those airports that have what we call essential air service, where we have passenger service into those airports. those are the critical airports because a lot of those airlines will not allow their carriers or their pilots to fly into an
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uncontrolled airport. >> overall, greg, as you look at the prospect of closing these control towers, does it worry you about safety? >> absolutely, alex, any time that you lose that tool of the air traffic controller being able to monitor the airplanes coming in and out of that airport or all aircraft, that level of safety diminishes only because you have a service that's provided to pilots to make them more aware of other airplanes and helicopters in the local vicinity. you take that tool away and now you put that onus solely on the pilot and then you see air traffic collisions and they happen in and around airport traffic patterns. >> i have been reading about small airplanes and helicopters, they have some blind spots, if you will. so is this what you're mostly concerned about here? >> i'm concerned not only in flight, but on the ground
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because, again, at an uncontrolled airport, it's up to the pilots to report their position. now during the day, you can see the aircraft that are moving around the airport, but at night, it's a lot more difficult. and leads to not only inflight collisions, but also on ground collisions and we have seen that in the past even after a major airport with towers. so that is a concern, that escalates the risk and it really puts the onus on the aviation community to be more diligent and deliberate in their operations at these airports. >> i don't think closing any of these towers is a good idea. the return of madmen, what to expect from season 6. too little? until we got miracle-gro moisture control. it does what basic soils don't by absorbing more water, so it's there when plants need it. yeah, they're bigger and more beautiful. guaranteed. in pots. in the ground.
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young boys in the gulf of mexico. and under fire. a new plan that requires president obama to drop that formula change. and what does dapper don have for tonight's madmen p premier. it's just past 1:00 p.m. here in the east. republicans are weighing in on the president's proposed budget today, here's senator lindsay gram on "meet the press." >> the house just passed a budget, the senate passed a about. the hope is that those can come together and work to try to find a compromise. the president's focus in addition to the regular order process that congress says they want is to try to find a caucus of common sense, folks who are willing to compromise, who don't think compromise is a dirty word to try to get something done. >> as a new republican, you're putting that on the table?
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>> if we do a three-year entitlement plan, this is a step in the right direction. >> well, nbc's peter alexander is at the white house, peter, with a good sunday to you, we have the president's senior advisor talking about the budget as we heard there. talk about what both are saying, put it in perspective? >> reporter: to give you a better understanding of this, we're not going to know the specifics until wednesday when the white house puts out the plan in its entirety. but you see the -- early republican criticism suggesting that the president is holding entitlement reform hostage so that he can get more taxes which house republicans specifically have said is a no-go situation right now. the president would not enact the romney economic plan. he said that lost out during the election, that's not the direction that the white house is follow going forward right
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now. they're trying to insist, this white house is, that it has to be a balanced approach, that for any new spending, there will be some cuts as well. but where those two meet, that's obviously what they're fighting over at this point. >> peter, we talk about the budget here, but let's also talk about the white hou ing about this space asteroid. >> i'm not a physicist, so i have to make sure i go to my notes. but according to some of my colleagues, this would effectively accomplish the president's goal of trying to send humans to visit an asteroid by 2025 at a more cost effective and a quicker time frame than some other scenarios. the estimated total mission is $2.6 billion, with a b, but the white house insists it could be
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closer to $1 billion or about 100 million each year for the next decade if they take into account some of the other -- within about a deck indicate from now there may be humans and asteroids in the united states is something that some people will find pretty remarkable. >> at least we're going to go and have a friendly relationship with that asteroid, it sounds like. joining me now for more on the budget. we have staff reporter -- andy, president's pretty much under fire from his own party, if they support these cuts in social security, they're going to face a primary challenge. so can the president move forward without support from its own party. >> this budget plan landed with a thud, alex.
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i mean we saw house speaker john boehner say it was unacceptable, that they didn't want the tax increases, the tax revenues in this plan, which of course is just sort of an outline, we don't have the real plan until next week, at the same time, progressive liberals have said if you support changes in social security, if you support these cuts to medicare, to medicaid, we will try to find someone to run against you for re-election. and it's difficult for the white house to have a path forward on it, other than just putting a blueprint out there when republicans and democrats are saying we can't live with this thing. >> with the president getting criticism from all sides, what do you think the strategy is here. >> it is interesting when you hear this kind of reaction, the thud that andy talked about, you do, you wonder why, you wonder what's going on here. and i think that in one word, it's compromise. i think the president wants to appear to be compromising on entitlement reform in the hopes
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of getting the republicans to the table to talk about tax increases. i think he wants to demonstrate, you know, that he's willing to compromise and if republicans aren't, he wants to point that up and saying i'm willing to give here, and what are you guys willing to give? here i am at the table let's settle this, let's work out something and if the republicans, if all they say is no, then you're back to the republicans is the party of no which is the white house is quite comfortable with. >> and this only helps the democrats in 2014, right. >> it does, but in one case, you do have to think about the danger of getting behind the president's plan here because in 2014, you face an opponent who says, possibly even a primary poi important who says you're looking to/medicaid and medicare. but i think also too that obama wants to curry some sense of correct with senate republicans. i think you're going to see him
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reaching out to them this week and possibly this plan is a way to establish that he's quite serious about compromise and looking to senate republicans as a receptive audience for that. >> some have a dinner date with the president with that. the president does head to -- today former congressman asa hutchinson said this. >> i can look certainly at the gun shows and the sales that surround that in that environment, if we can make sure there's a comprehensive check and we keep criminals from obtaining guns in that environment, then those checks would seem appropriate. >> of course mr. hutchinson there working for the nra, but the nra not giving an inch. the president not giving up on his push for new gun control, so how successful do you think he can be here? can he get it accomplished. >> at this point we're talking about background checks and
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perhaps a vote on restricting the sale of certain kinds of automatic assault weapons and maybe some high capacity magazines. but realistically, background checks are where we could get some kind of legislation. the president has acknowledged this, he told democratic donors last week that background checks were the best hope for some kind of post-newtown gun control legislation and the assault weapons ban, the magazine clips, these maybe there's a vote in congress on it. but they're just not realistic about. taking their member s telling their members to talk to their members of congress. >> emily, if you move to the disappointing jobs report on friday, who's span is going to be more effective on the numbers is it going to be democrats or republicans? >> i think we're back to a
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battle that we have been to before. this jobs report was the first since the sequester really took effect. so it's the first chance we have had to see how that's affecting jobs, and we see that it's not good, and democrats and republicans have said that, you have heard that from both sides that this is due to the sequester. it seems that na's sort of a mixed bag for both parties, it seems like so far the public isn't quite feeling the effects of the sequester as much as democrats have been warning they might. so there's danger for this the democrats. in terms of the sequester batting in terms of the republicans blame game, it comes down to polls as to how popular -- right now president obama is much more popular than congress. the white house comes back to it a little bit better. but we're back to the same old
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battle that we have been in for the last month or two. >> can i ask you about your last article, no welfare if your kids gets mono or depression? what is that about? >> this is the latest hair brained idea to come out of the legislature, this is in missouri, the republican controlled legislature, there's a member there who says they want to tell welfare recipients that if your kid misses 10% of the school year, if they have mono, if they suffer from depression, some form of long-term illness, the family loses government assistance, they're calling this the don't get sick bill. this is the toxic extreme ideas that some republican lawmakers are putting out there, it doesn't do any good for the party as a whole when you have some republicans peddling don't get sick bills like this one. we have some tragic news, evangelical pastor rick warren
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and his wife are mourning the death of their youngest son matthew. >> reporter: alex, good day, you know sunday services are wrapping up here right now and first and foremost on everyone's mind is this terrible loss suffered by the warren family. 27-year-old matthew warren shot himself on friday. also about his lifelong battle with depression, they said they did the best they could with the best doctors, the best meds and all the parrayers in their hear and it just wasn't enough. >> i know there were reports that the pastor might show up and attend church, but that doesn't happen today, but that would have been a hurk leanne on his part if he had gotten there.
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>> some told me that he would have shown up in church because it's just in his nature to talk about difficult things especially in time of loss. but that's not the case, he's mourning in private with family members. but at this time, everyone's coming together, they say they're here for him, they're all one big family and he's done so much to help heal others that this is a time for them to come together to help them through their loss. as we have been discussing today, many of obama's democrats don't like the plan of cutting medicaid payments. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. here's your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards.
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obama's budget proposal due out wednesday, but it's not getting cheers from the other side of the aisle either. let's bring in a democrat congressman from arizona. welcome, sir, nice to see you again. >> good to see you, thank you. >> i want to look back to friday when you put out this statement, quote, cutting benefits now when people are already struggling to make ends meet will mean unnecessary hardship for millions of people. it is unpopular, unwise and unworkable. can you explain all that? >> throughout this whole process, i think it's common knowledge and fact that the house republicans are not going to accept this proposal by the president. they want this to be part of the cut package, but they will never agree to revenue generation as well. so they went through this exercise and in the process, they cut social security, additional cuts to medicare and
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medicaid on the table and in doing so, resurrect an issue that all of us campaign in that direction about preserving and strengtheni ining social securi and medicare. it's frustrating to the base. all along we have said, we need to deal with social security, this social insurance in a separate setting, how do we strengthen it, how do we assure it's benefit delivery for generations to come. but to make it part of a budget deal with full security to decorate the deficit, i think that's what unworkable, and politically, not a wise move. >> categorize the kind of fight you expect from the -- rather between the president and house democrats and for those who do support the president, should they be challenged from the left? or does that just splinter the party and weaken everything? >> i think it splinters the
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party, but there's a valid debate that occurs in our own caucus, that if this is a value we have stood for, then we affirm that and if we don't reaffirm that, you know, i understand the strategy might be to reaffirm that the republicans are the party of no, which we know that are, but i don't think it's time for the democrats to become the party of maybe, maybe we'll support it this time, maybe we won't support it next time. we need to be solid, we need to indicate to the president, this is a nonstarter in the house. and as democrats, for protecting a value that occurs in our party, i think it's the appropriate thing to do, it's not about challenging, it is about protecting a program that has been here two presidencies and not just this one. >> do you believe it's the president's intention to offer compromise, just in order to reduce the deficit? i mean it is the timing of this strategy you're opposed to, given where we are economically in this country or is there more to it? >> i think it's not only the
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timing, it's the fact that the point of compromise and bipartisanship is a valid point. but all through this process, every indication from republican leadership and that includes, i believe the majority of the senate is no, we are not going to deal with increased revenue. unless that is a part of a committed equation to the discussion, what's the point? the point is that we have a sequestration going into effect, that nobody wanted, it was a dumb idea and now here we are, comparing the sequestration to having to cut social security and medicare as a better alternative. i don't believe that that's the choice the american people want and i these we should let the american people use their will to influence this congress to do the right thing on these programs. at this point, putting it on the table almost makes it a commitment that that will always be on the table and i think that's a mistake.
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>> congresswoman, if the budget is ultimately rejected, where does that leave the president with house democrats? >> i think it leaves the president with house democrats where unfortunately where those of us in the minority and certainly the president have known for a long time, there's an agenda here and that agenda has not wavered, it is about going after basic institutions, social security and medicare in this instance and limiting and constricting the world of government in american people's lives, at least these have been targets, these have been something that you want to put at the end of the spear to show the heads of these two programs politically speak and showing that agenda. i don't think it changes anything, until there is a majority or a different attitude in this house, this leadership is going to continue on that same path. >> we had a movement on immigration in your backyard, members of the team of 8 toured the border with mexico in your state of arizona last week.
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how encouraged are you and might it impact the immigration package they're working on? >> i'm somewhere between optimistic and hopeful. i saw the visit between the four senators and the involvement of senator mccain in that discussion and putting that package together is a good sign. and i look forward to that discussion and that debate. i just hope that senators like sessions don't decide that this becomes their -- to hang up any further movement in the senate and that boehner allows up and down motions in the house so that we can move forward on what i think is one of the most pressing economic security and social issues that we have facing this country, the sooner the better. >> i know wednesday you have a big event planned there on the hill, tell me what that's about. >> immigration advocates from across the country coming to one more time urge congress to move and to do it now.
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to not allow stalling, not make the process of immigration reform so punitive, so lengthy, so cost prohibitive that people do not come forward. we have an opportunity, we have a window, that window could close and i think that rally is to say that america wants you to move, congress, and it's going to be huge and more importantly, to tell -- give congress a very direct message that it's time to move on this issue now. >> arizona congressman, thank you for your time. good luck on wednesday, thanks. madmen mania across america, what can we expect from tonight's season premier? we'll take a look next. s? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ]
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convoy of both afghan and coalition members, the 25-year-old american diplomat was on a convoy, they were on their way to a school to deliver books to children. she had taken part in this program of delivering books to schools around the country. she came from afghanistan last july from venezuela, she came into the foreign service right out of college and john kerry had this to say about her. >> ann was everything that is right about our foreign service. she was smart and capable, committed to our country. i had the privilege of meeting her just a few days ago when i was in afghanistan, she was part of my team. and she was someone who worked hard and put her life on the line so that others could live a better life. >> reporter: she was also very well known and very well liked at the nbc bureau here in kabul
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and getting to snow some of the staff members here so there's a sense of a heavy heart around here as well. general martin dempsey was here trying to get a sense of how many u.s. forces need to be here into 2014. but we do expect to see u.s. forces on the ground through 2014 and beyond, we just don't know how many exactly. >> i understand that senator kerry reached out to ann's family, is that true? >> he called them before he announced her name publicly. saying how much she loved doing the job she was doing here in afghanistan, trying to help these young people find their way to a better life. so the sense of loss for her
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family is heavy along with all of her cohorts and colleagues here in afghanistan. >> yeah, understandable. back here at home, there's a search underway in the gulf of mexico right now for a man suspected of kidnapping two young boys, and you might be surprised to see who the suspect isser. charles, it's a father kidnapping her children? >> reporter: that's right, alex. a search by land, sea and air continues all along the gulf coast for a father who police say kidnapped his own children and then planned an elaborate get away. the coast guard today is searching the gulf of mexico for a 25-year-old blue sailboat named salty. on board are believed to be joshua and sharon hacken and their two boys, 4-year-old coal and 2-year-old chase. police say joshua hacken who lost a custody battle in court last week, took them from their
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grandmother after tying her up in her home. >> he tied me up. i was able to free myself with a pair of scissors but they had been gone about a half an who. >> security cameras at the marina show the family boarding the boat and sailing away on wednesday. by the time the police made the connection, they say they could have made it 100 miles away or more. but the search by land is not over. >> i wouldn't put it past them to pull it into one of these coves and into a vehicle. >> investigators say joshua hacken knows how to operate a boat and they believe he planned the get away. his pickup was found near the marina. it was searched but police found no clues as to where the family is headed. experienced boaters say crossing the gulf of mexico in a 25-foot sailboat is a daunting and dangerous task. >> it's like being in a washing machine. a 24-footer is just too small to
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be out there. >> if they were downstairs in life jackets, they should be okay. maybe a little seasick. >> the both was last seen heading out into the open water. and hacken is believed to be armed and dangerous according to police, the coast guard has been broadcasting a message to be on the lookout for a small sailboat named salty. a new report today suggests that rutgers university had long been aware of the aggressive and troubling behavior of their former basketball coach. the "new york times" reports that even before they saw the video of the coach's insults, slurs and abuse of the basketball players -- both pro football players and rutgers alum alumni. thanks for joining us. >> no problem, thanks for having
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us. >> if the university was aware of mike rice's aggressive and problematic behavior, why do you think he was allowed to keep coaching? >> it's just hearing it from our standpoint, everyone was saying, you know, they had to go along through the process and see how it played out and seek outside council and it seems like that's what they did, they played by the rules and it's a very tough situation and you know hearing the ad and the president say if they could go back, they would do something a little different. >> had you devin ever heard of incidents involving mike rice? >> i saw how intense he was, but never to the extent i saw on tv. >> yeah, jason, i know that you guys both have been tweeting about this. but for our viewers, can you describe your reaction to the video? >> it was just embarrassing to be an alum of a school and to turn on espn and it seemed like every ten minutes it was breaking news and everybody was
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talking about it and a lot going on cnn and msnbc and people talking about mike rice and the fact that he was having on the program to see the wie he behaved on those practice tapes and the language he used and the physical nature of throwing balls at kids' heads and kicking kids, i was just embarrassed to be tagged along with the university at that time. >> of course. any anger you feel at the university as well? >> i play football, not basketball, but same, we have had coaches growing up that tried different things to motivate players, but the extent he went, it's never okay to go that far. >> the former atlantic director getting robbed, he said his first instinct was to fire rice and he was overruled. >> when you're in that situation, you have to go along
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with the decision. i have a great deal of respect for mr. pernetti because he's always put the needs of the school ahead of himself. to stand back and understand that there's nothing else you can do and he would rather the university go forward and hopefully prosper after this event and, you know, he's taking the fall for it. so i have nothing but respect for him. >> jason, in college sports, there is a win at all costs attitude. do you understand the pressure that these coaches are under to win and how it might manifest in these kinds of situations? >> yeah, definitely, being a pro athlete you understand that pressure, because for ourselves, it's either produce or you'll be gone the next year as well. from the coach's standpoint you understand the pressure and that's why those guys are put in those positions, they're supposed to understand the question and be able to deal with it and make sure their players are giving maximum effort and doing everything you can to win games but with that
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pressure comes responsibility and treat the players in the right way and do everything they can to motivate them without crossing the line. >> college sfoobl coaches are also notorious for pulling on the face masks of students they coached. you and your brother, did you ever experience this during training? and if so, how did you react to it? >> i think it was a little bit different. i was just talking to friends and former players, we talk about that here. it's different i guess because football is so much equipment is involved that often coaches will do different things like you say grab your face mask and slap you on the helmet. it's touch coaches because we have experienced that ever since we were 10 and 11 years old. and like jason said as long as you don't cross the line and physically try to abuse someone, i think it's acceptable, but it's such a close line that you have to make sure that you don't cross. >> you and your brother are the
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lucky ones that you made it to the pros but is there a danger that student who is speak up after being bullied by coaches may not make it to the big leagues? >> i don't know as far as the big leagues, but there is pressure, if you look at those guys on the team, i have had numerous guys on that team saying if i was on that team, i would have done this, i would have done that, those guys on a scholarship, they're looking to play on the team and hopefully maybe be able to move on to the pools of sol -- maybe they will be forced to transfer and different things will stop them from moving on to the big level. i think not as much moving on to the pros, but i think you don't want something bad to happen while you're in college. >> jason, devin, jason you first, what's your fwiter handle. >> we actually share win,
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it's time for the big three in "today's" topics, job's who's to blame, burning questions and this week's must read. welcome to the three of you. we'll go ladies first here, christin christina, the latest jobs report, disappointing. the republicans blaming the expiration of the social security tax cut. >> things -- when the president
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talks about infrastructure and a lot of things he's been out on the trail talking about. but the looming questions about how you fund your government and uncertainty over what will happen with the budget does really matter and it's affecting the mood of the american people and everybody wants to see more jobs created. >> so, dana, if the jobs numbers don't turn around, does it give republicans more leverage in their argument on the economy? >> sure it does. if the jobs numbers don't turn around, we've got all kinds of problems in politics here. no matter whose argument you're taking whether it's the tax cut holiday you can see that it's the lack of action that's causes damage to the economy. that seems to be accepted either way. it may give some people some pause in realizing we need to work on the debt, but we're not exactly in a position right now
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to be making deep cuts to government spending. >> do you think the latest numbers give the gop any leverage to giveend the sequest? >> when you take a look wall street and you take a look at the dow, things are improving, but when you take a look at main street, they're not improving. what the democrats are hearing from their constituents, they're saying do something and do it now. but the hard left together need to come up with some kind of compromise. it doesn't look like it's going to happen any sometime time soon. >> let's listen to senator lindsay graham today on the president's budget. >> if the president will lead on this, and he's shown some leadership. no democrat will get to his right. no democrat is going to seek retirement. so he's showing some signs of leadership that's been lacking.
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i'm encouraged and that puts the burden on us to do the same thing, i think we will. >> robert, your reaction to that, is the burden on the republicans now, will they compromise? >> i think that kind of speaks from my earlier point. i think so and here's the reason why, republicans don't want to be seen as the party of obstruction and as the party of no. the president according to the polling data people see him as reasonable, people see him as thoughtful, most people see him as backwards when it comes to the economy. most people see him a little more with his head in the sand. i think republicans will compromise a little bit. the question becomes if it's revenue enhancers as opposed to tax increases, but i think they will come to the center just a little bit. >> dana, do you think that if republicans don't begin to compromise, do you think they'll continue with the moniker, being the party of no? >> they will indeed, and rob's got it right for that reason, we all know what the ultimate
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compromise needs to look like and i think for once the president who is not producing serious budgets the first few years is finally given something that can't be rejected out of hand so it certainly does put the ball been insistent they're not going to do tax increases. they have to give it up. the question, how soon. >> with regard to the senate back this week, on the agenda with regard to the first significant piece of legislation passed? >> a guns package is what senator majority leader harry red said we'd see. we don't know the particular details. the package that passed the senate jichary committee had a background check measure. the thing that has the most likelihood of passing, but that measure did not have full bipartisan support. they're still working on it behind the scenes. it's unclear what that package would look like. harry reid said he'd make sure. this could be a major week when it comes to gun control
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legislation, all celt with a backdrop of state actions happening just about everywhere. you heard, the president would be talking about that tomorrow. >> right in connecticut. ask i ask you quick about your latest column. making fun of the paycuts in a lot of the sequester. obama's feeble salary sacrifice, but why are you gesture? what would up have them do? >> the president give it all back and others on the hill do something similar. i do say in there that, at least giving 5% of his pay xcut is a lot more than others are doing. $20,000 for a guy worth many millions of dollars, leaving office, worth tens of million, it's not that big a sacrifice. if he wants to make a big symbolic gesture, give back that $400,000 salary. he's not going to miss it.
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now back to the big three for this week's must-reads. christina, start with you. what's yours? >> i have a little beef with this story. it's an important story, on the front page of "the washington post" yesterday. it took a look at teenagers using the hash tag beauty contest on instagram. putting out pictures of themselves voting up or down. mostly girls. it's an issue that allows us to talk to young girls about the importance of talking to one another about looks. the importance of talking to one another about self-esteem. my problem with the story it didn't actually talk to any of the teenagers doing this. i'd love to know from them, why do you do this? do you understand the risks? do you understand that this is something that could be really bad for you and a lot of your friends in the future. it's an opportunity to start a bigger conversation. >> a very good read. i think a lot of parents
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especially of teens ought to read that, too. thanks. dana, yours? >> there's a piece by my colleague paul kane in today's "washington post" that looks at the democrats house strategy for next year. back to the rahm emanuel, a lot of centrist ideological, knock republicans out of the suburban districts where they might have the best shot of retaking the house. an encouraging sign they're moving away from ideology, and gives them a fighting chance. >> robert? >> today's "new york times," an interesting story about president obama the budget, the hard left is attacking it and hard right, dead on arrival and speaks to where president obama is with his constituency and base and with republicans on capitol hill and how politically tough it will be to get the budget to the congress, of which i don't think he'll be able to do. good to see you all. thank you for joining me on a sunday. appreciate t. thank you. enjoy the weather.
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