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darkness cannot drive out darkness. as dr. king said. only light can do that. how very strange that the cowardice unleashed on us should come on marathon day, on patriots day. a day that marks both the unofficial end of our long winter hibernation, and the first battle of the american revolution. and just as we are taught at times like this, not to lose touch with our spiritual faith, let us also not lose touch with our civic faith. massachusetts invented america. and america -- america is not
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organized the way countries are usually organized. we're not organized around a common language. or religion or even culture. we're organized around a handful of civic ideals. and we have defined those ideals over time and through struggle. as equality, opportunity, freedom and fair play. an attack on our civic ritual like the marathon, especially on patriots day is an attack on those values. and just as we cannot permit darkness and hate to triumph over our spiritual faith, so we must not permit darkness and hate to triumph over our civic faith. that cannot happen. and it will not. so we will recover and repair.
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we will grieve our losses and heal. we will rise and we will endure. we will have accountability without vengeance. vigilance without fear. and we will remember, i hope and pray, long after the buzz of boylston street is back and the media has turned its attention elsewhere, that the grace this tragedy exposed, is the best of who we are. fellow citizens, i am honored -- i am honored and humbled to welcome our friend, our leader, our commander-in-chief, the president of the united states.
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>> the grace in which they've handled this. is the best of who we are. here's the president. thank you. >> hello, boston. scripture tells us to run with endurance the race that is set before us. run with endurance the race that is set before us.
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on monday morning the sun rose over boston. the sunlight glistened off the state house dome. in the common, in the public garden, spring was in bloom. on this patriots day, like so many before, fans jumped onto the t to see the sox at fenway. in hopkinton, runners laced up their shoes and set out on a 26-mile test of dedication, grit and the human spirit and across this city, hundreds of thousands of bostonians lined the streets. to hand the runners cups of water. and to cheer them on.
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it was a beautiful day to be in boston. a day that explains why the poet once wrote that this town is not just a capital, not just a place, boston, he said, is the perfect state of grace. and then in an instant the day's beauty was shattered. a celebration became a tragedy. so we come together to play and mourn and measure our loss. we also come together to reclaim
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that state of grace. to reaffirm that the spirit of this city is undaunted. and the spirit of this country shall remain undimmed. to governor patrick mayor menino, cardinal o'malley and all the faith leaders who are here, governors romney, swift, weld and dukakis. members of congress and most of all, the people of boston and the families who have lost a piece of your heart. we thank you for your leadership. we thank you for your courage. we thank you for your grace. i'm here today on behalf of the american people with a simple
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message. every one of us has been touched by this attack on your beloved city. every one of us stands with you. because after all, it's our beloved city, too. boston may be your hometown, but we claim it, too. it was one of america's iconic cities. it's one of the world's great cities. and one of the reasons the world knows boston so well is that boston opens its heart to the world. over successive generations you've welcomed, again and again, new arrivals to our shores. immigrants who constantly reinvigorated this city and this
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commonwealth and our nation. every fall you welcome students from all across america and all across the globe and every spring you graduate them back into the world. the boston diaspora that excels in every field of human endeavor. year after year you welcome the greatest talents in the arts and scien science, research. you welcome them to your concert halls and your hospitals and your laboratories. to exchange ideas and insights that draw this world together. and every third monday in april, you welcome people from all around the world to the hub for friendship and fellowship.
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and healthy competition. a gathering of men and women of every race and every religion, every shape and every size. a multitude represented by all of those flags that flew over the finish line. so whether folks come here to boston for just a day or they stay here for years, they leave with a piece of this town tucked firmly into their hearts. so boston is your home town, but we claim did a little bit, too. i know this -- i know this
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because there's a piece of boston in me. you welcomed me as a young law student across the river. you welcomed michelle, too. you welcomed me -- welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked these streets. like you, we know these neighborhoods. like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying boston, you're my home. for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it's personal.
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today our prayers are with the campbell family of medford. they're here today. their daughter crystal was always smiling. those who knew her said with her red hair and freckles and her ever-eager willingness to speak her mind, she was beautiful, sometimes she would be a little noisy. and everybody loved her for it. she would have turned 30 next month. as her mother said, through her tears, this doesn't make any sense. our prayers are with the liu
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family of china, who sent their daughter to b.u. so she could experience all this city has to offer. she was a 23-year-old student far from home. and in the heartache of her family and friends on both sides of a great ocean, were reminded of the humanity that we all share. our prayers are with the richard family of dorchester. to denise and the young daughter, jane. as they fight to recover. and our hearts are broken for 8-year-old martin. with his big smile and bright eyes. his last hours were as perfect as an 8-year-old boy could hope for. with his family eating ice cream at a sporting event.
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and we're left with two enduring images of this little boy. forever smiling for his beloved bruins. and forever expressing a wish he made on a blue postalboard. no more hurt, people. peace. no more hurting people, peace. our prayers are with the injured. so many wounded. some gravely. from their beds, some are surely watching us gather here today. and if you are, know this -- as you begin this long journey of recovery, your city is with you. your commonwealth is with you, your country is with you. we will all be with you as you learn to stand. and walk and yes, run again.
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of that i have no doubt, you will run again. you will run again. because that's what the people of boston are made of. your resolve is the greatest rebuke to whoever committed this heinous act. if they sought to intimidate us, to terrorize us -- to shake us from those values that deval described, the values that make us who we are as americans, well, it should be pretty clear by now that they picked the wrong city to do it.
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not here in boston. not here in boston. you showed us, boston. that in the face of evil, americans will lift up what's good. the face of cruelty, we will choose compassion. in the face of those who would visit death upon innocents, we will choose to save, and to
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comfort and to heal. we'll choose friendship. we'll choose love. scripture teaches us god has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity. but of power, love, and self-discipline. and that's the spirit you've displayed in recent days. when doctors and nurses, police and firefighters and emts and guardsmen run towards explosions, to treat the wounded, that's discipline. when exhausted runners, including our troops and veterans who never expected to
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see such carnage on the streets back home, become first responders themselves, tending to the injured, that's real power. when bostonians carry victims in their arms, deliver water and blankets. line up to give blood, open their homes to total strangers, give them rides back to reunite with their families, that's love. that's the message we send to those who carry this out and anyone who would do harm to our people. yes, we will find you. and yes, you will face justice.
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we will find you, we will hold you accountable. but more than that, our fidelity to our way of life, for our free and open society, will only grow stronger. for god has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity. but one of power and love. and self-discipline. like bill effring, 78 years old, the runner in the orange tank top who we all saw get knocked down by the blast. we may be momentarily knocked off our feet. but we'll pick ourselves up. we'll keep going, we will finish the race.
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in the words of dick hoyt, who has pushed his disabled son, rick, in 31 boston marathon, we can't let something like this stop us. this doesn't stop us. that's what you've taught us, boston. that's what you've reminded us. to push on. to persevere. to not grow weary. to not get faint. even when it hurts. even when our heart aches. we respond the strength that maybe we didn't even know we had and we carry on.
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we finish the race. we finish the race and we do that because of who we are. and we do that because we know that somewhere around the bend, a stranger has a cup of water. around the bend, somebody is there to boost our spirits. on that toughest mile, just when we think that we've hit a wall, someone will be there to cheer us on and pick us up if we fall. we know that. >> that's what the perpetrators of such senseless violence. these small, stunted
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individuals, who would destroy instead of build and think somehow that paks them important. that's what they don't understand. our faith in each other, our love for each other. our love for country, our common creed that cuts across whatever superficial differences that may be -- that is our power. that's our strength. that's why a bomb can't beat us. that's why we don't hunker down. that's why we don't cower in fear. we carry on. we race. we strive, we build and we work and we love and we raise our kids to do the same, and we come together to celebrate life and to walk our cities in and to cheer for our teams when the sox
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and celtics and patriots or bruins are champions again, to the chagrin of new york and chicago fans, the crowds will gather and watch a parade go down boylston street and this time next year -- on the third monday in april -- the world will return to this great american city to run harder than ever and to cheer even louder for the 118th boston marathon. >> bet on it!
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>> tomorrow the sun will rise over boston. tomorrow the sun will rise over this country that we love. this special place. this state of grace. scripture tells us to run with endurance, the race that is set before us. as we do, may god hold close those who have been taken from us too soon. may he comfort their families. and may he continue to watch over these united states of america. >> robert gibbs, i think that's going to go down as one of the great american speeches.
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i think the line that's going to be on the front page of the "boston globe" tomorrow will be, you will run again. >> i was, i was struck by the lines -- we're here to measure our loss, but to reclaim, that state of grace, to reaffirm the undaunted spirit of this city. it started out as a memorial and there was a buoyancy to those remarks. a spirit of an affirmation of our values, i made a note that even before he got to that point that next year's marathon will be greater than it's ever been. >> mayor flynn, run with endurance the race that is before you. >> great words, chris, i was thinking, i was with i was at the boston garden the night jack kennedy -- >> hold on, mr. mayor. hold on, we're going to hear the prayer and get back to you. >> preserve your going forth and your coming in. may the lord bless you and
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protect you. may the lord smile on you and be gracious to you. may the lord show you his favor and give you his peace, amen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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[ america the beautiful ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ let's go back to mayor flynn, a long-time mayor of the city.
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you were saying, mayor, before the beautiful rendition of "america" -- >> i was thinking to myself, listening to the president speak, i was at the old boston garden the night before jack kennedy got elected president to the united states. i thought that was one of the greatest days in boston history. i was at the bicentennial of the country, the united states of america, 1976. i was right here at this church here, this cathedral when john paul ii came here october 1st, 1979. today was one of the great days in boston history. the city came together in a time of crisis and a time of need. a time of pain, this is a real strong step forward, not only for the city, but i think it sent a message throughout america that we really stand for something, it's all about values, it's all about tradition, it's about america. >> yeah, i think the idea of the old -- there we just saw mitt romney, the former governor.
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the idea of red state blue state being one more patriotic than the other i think has really been put aside here today, robert gibbs. >> we're all americans. >> go ahead, mayor. >> robert gibbs. >> the idea of -- i want to get back to robert gibbs for a second, mr. mayor. this idea that one state because they are more conservative, therefore, more patriotic. there's a lot about this patriots day and its connection to the founding fathers. and this community, i'll go back, it sounds anti-religious, i hope it doesn't come across that way. the inter part of the faith was so much more than the faith itself, inter, coming together. >> this the cradle of the birth of our country, boston is and has seen very tough times. i think -- as the president said, we all have a little of boston in us. >> let me go to -- to alex wagner, you're outside. we don't have a camera on you,
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this ininside of the church has just been something, the last half hour, especially. have you been able to hear the sermons? >> you can hear the singing, chris. and as i said, there are people in the streets, you can hear people applauding. we were listening to, we were listening to the president's speech from out here. but i think that metaphor of the marathon was so incredibly powerful, you have a nation that is looking to its leader and we are, a sent of exhaustion and fear and defeat and the metaphor was so apt. the notion of loneliness and to pair it with the idea of the stranger waiting around the bend with a cup of water and the knowledge that the community is out there and together we make it across the finish line. i thought it was a brilliant metaphor for this moment in time. >> i have to tell you -- it gets do me. i find boston and it's unique. all cities will say this and
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they have have their own character and their own sense of community. but boston is this closed-in, cold a good part of the year. you live inside, you're in together. the scenes and cheers are not made up, that really is true. everybody knows your name. it isn't something made up in hollywood. robert gibbs, you're a writer, you have to deal with this kind of thing. i have to tell you, this president, you can argue with him as a legislator, he's had his failures, successes, as a head of state he has come through like clinton did, as a personification of our country's unity, not its politics. >> in many ways, this is how we remember presidents. we remember bill clinton in being okay city. we remember george bush after 9/11 and you remember the moments in which all of the politics and the arguing is put aside. to lift up. >> even the pursuit of the bad guy for an hour and a half. we'll get back to that tonight on "hardball." let me get back to james
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cavanaugh. there have been any developments today in the pursuit of the guilty? >> still trying to release the pictures, chris, decide if they're going to release the photographs of the bombers or suspected bombers in the case. if they do, it's going to ramp things up fast for those investigators and in a command post. i halfway expect them to do it. because the bomber believes the investigators have their picture and that developed yesterday. when it broke into national media. so if i was commanding the case, i'm sure these commanders are thinking that way. i'm always trying to think like the bomber. not necessarily think like the detective. so you've got to get ahead of them. i think it's going to be fast moving later this afternoon in development. >> yes, thank you. let me go back to mayor flynn. mayor flynn, i tell you, this wasn't something that happened by accident, it happened because of horror. i wish we did more of this.
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didn't you get that feeling watching this service, why don't we do this once in a while like we do the marathon, get together, this way. >> well, chris, good triumphs over evil once again, a great american saga, a great american story. it's the story of love over fear. goodness over hate. we heard that here today. not only from our religious leaders, but from our political leaders. that's what boston is all about. that's what america is about. that's why people left the land of where they were originally from. they came to boston, the first seaport in america and they built their homes, built their families, built the great institutions, we're part of the building of this great nation. and once again we're reliving that again on patriots day. what could be more appropriate than all americans join here together in boston to renewing their values as americans, whether you come from ireland, as my family or you come from italy or you come from africa or
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israel wherever it is. as americans we may have come over in different boats, but we're all in this together today. >> robert gibbs, i want to get back to the president's speech and the things he said. this was worked out over i assume a couple of days getting ready for this. this was an important message from the president. about life and what you face, run with endurance the race that is before you. you don't look for races, they come to you. this is a race that's come to us, how we have to deal with this. this is not going to be the last bomb explosion in our lifestyle. this the is the world we're living in. anti-government feelings, east versus west. and not just politics, but dangerous things. you will run again. and then the way as sort of the father or mother of the country, if you have a woman president, it will be the same, listing the names of the victims. the way he did that. and talking about them as individual people we've lost. i'll tell you, i've been, i've
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been to finals where the priest doesn't even know anything about the person who died. i've been in situations where there's impersonality all over the place, he was personal. >> he brought the individual stories and the individual stories quite frankly of police and firefighters and everybody involved in what happened on monday. and i was struck really at that, alex mentioned it. in the hardship that we have endured in this country, we get there and we get through it because around the bend there's somebody with water to help us through the endurance of that marathon. >> and we all know about heartbreak hill. alex, we all know about heartbreak hill. apparently it has three levels, you have to do three heartbreaks in a row. this idea that it's a community thing. that you have to have the knowledge that someone is going to give you some water to get to the 20th mile and you have to believe there is a 26th mile and you're going to get to it it's all part of cheering you on. and i've seen this, i said just to bring back my city,
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philadelphia. i saw it with my daughter running a few months ago, the cheering that goes on and the water carriers and people that just are there. >> chris, as someone who has run half marathons, never a full one. there's something that it requires a spirit, it tests your spirit in a lot of ways, long distance running and life tests your spirit and moments like this test the national spirit and that way, i thought it was you know, a brilliant turn of phrase from the president to use that to describe what's going on. i also thought the fact that he said boston, you're my home. he drew a distinctly personal line to a city is really powerful and important as the country but really as boston tries to heal. president obama going back to his days of harvard. his personal experiences in the city. feeling that a part of him is hurting because of what happened to this city i think is an incredibly important part of the message. >> and in many ways the speech
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sort of starts like a marathon. it's slow and quiet because there's a long engineerny, you can sense in the middle of the speech and towards the end, the adrenaline of the president, just like the adrenaline of the rubber ki runner kicking in. going up the one last hill. looking toward the finish line with those helping you get there. >> the stories i'll never forget, is the guy who loses two legs, someone comes along. a military veteran with recent service overseas in a war zone. runs up, pulls his shirt off and ties tourniquets around his leg. he managed to make the difference that day. the two kids standing next to each other both lost their legs and here's the president, talking about that very question, will they be able to walk again and he says you'll be able to run again. let's watch. >> so many wounded. some gravely. from their beds, some are surely
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watching us gather here today and if you are, know this. as you begin this long journey of recovery, your city is with you. your commonwealth is with you, your country is with you, we will all be with you as you learn to stand and walk and yes, run again, of that i have no doubt. you will run again. >> lester holt, my friend is here. lester, i always do this as a journalist and somebody who used to work in politics. i love to figure out the headline of the next day. and i think we've got it here -- you will run again. i think the "globe" is owning that one. they might even degree this time, the "herald" and the "globe," your message about the president. >> he tapped into the city, he tapped into the spirit, we've all witnessed, those of us who have been here since the bombing on monday. i'm hearing the spirit right
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behind me. the crowd behind me couldn't watch for the most part of what was happening inside. few were huddled around their smartphones and radios. right now there's a choir that's working its way through the crowd they just finished singing "america the beautiful." i thought moment ago there were two things going on here. we're used to this ritual of american healing. our president speaking at these kinds of services. what's a bit different in this case from some others that we've seen is the perpetrator or perpetrators of the violence here are not in custody and they're not dead as we've seen in other acts. in this case they may still be among us. so a community that is certainly hurting and wounded also has a fair amount of insecurity that this is not over. that the police you see behind me here protecting the president, you're seeing that all across central boston right
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now. it's still a city on edge there were bomb dogs working along the crowd earlier. you do see this security when the president is in town. but not normally this far away from venues. people here are continuing to be rattled, these were important words they heard today. the president rallied and people will run again, literally and figuratively, come next year and as the city rebuilds, but it's not over. chris? >> lester, you and i last year were in close quarters sharing a camper down in new orleans after katrina. and i remember you had the full-length bed and i had a three-quarter length bed and i never held that against you. the feeling there was a sense of nature, a sense that perhaps over the years they let the wetlands go. but basically these things happen. >> up here, go after it again in your thinking and reporting, a mixture of the sadness, anger at the people who committed it and also as you said, the surrounding uncertainty.
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>> you don't know who to be mad at. after 9/11, within hours, we knew who to be mad at. we knew who we wanted to bring to justice. this is a little different. we still don't know whether this was domestic or international terrorism. why someone wanted to kill innocent people along a marathon route. so there's a sense of where do we go now? what i hear from a lot of people. everyone has got an opinion about it. i think it's a home-grown. it's a domestic person. i hear a lot of that. it's almost as if we don't want to take the next leap that maybe this is international terrorism. this is my own view. but if that's the case, we have to take it to the next step. what do we do about it. who do we strike at? how do we channel our anger. that becomes a much more different question after two wars, if it does turn out to be international terrorism. so it's an interesting thought process, it's a community wounded but they don't know who wounded them.
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it's easy in some respects, when you have a mass shooting within hours we know about that person. what their mental issues may have been. what their grudges were. in this case, three people are dead, 14 people critically wounded there are people who have lost limbs, 170 people in all hurt. they don't have a clue as to why. chris? >> let me go down to james cavanaugh. that sense of, if it is international, we do not know yet. international and the question of it becomes a tribal thing. islamic versus christian and jewish. those old rivalries have always been around. they've been aroused by bad leaders, bad karma and you have to live with it for a while. the question is does hitting another country like afghanistan end it? does hitting a country that may not have been involved like iraq, end it? obviously it doesn't. we live in a time of turmoil and anger and the question is is
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there a way to caughterize it? >> i think we're going to live with the need for security for a long time. >> exactly, chris. >> we can't shut down every street and venue and crowd, so we're going to have to live with it. the most effective thing we can do is be a rehend those responsible. and deal with them justly. >> and the d.c. sniper case, by catching those guys, we put an end to that. the criminals, whatever venue they come from. whether it's international, internationally inspired or a violent anti-government group or a lone actor, we've got to catch them and give them a fair trial. we might have to go to kathmandu to get a jury to give them a fair trial. i don't know if they'll get it in boston. we'll give them a fair trial and we'll give them justice.
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>> back in the boston massacre, we had john adams defending the british soldiers, and they had a fair trial. i'm very confident about our ability to be just in this society. we've done it from the beginning, darn it. thank you, and mayor flynn, james cavanaugh and robert gibbs, that wraps it up for us, i'll see you back here tonight for "hardball" at 5:00 and 7:00. please watch tonight we may have the bad guys by then. in fact "now" with alex wagner is next. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix.
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a tragedy and the uncertainty from what happened in and around bost thn week. >> alex, think about what the president has had to deal with in the last 24 hours, both politically, in his own political fights. we heard yesterday in the range of emotions that the president has been dealing with. where he was obviously upset and angry about the gun vote. on his way to boston to deliver that speech, he's getting bring briefed about what happened in west texas. a reminder that this job isn't made for everyone. but the speech itself when you think about how important it is for the city of boston, his speech -- every speech was more moving than the next. i thought deval patrick was outstanding and the president really gave the type of thing that i think people wanted to hear. feel the healing. for a lot of bostonians, watching tom menino, their mayor
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for life in many ways, stand up, when he hasn't been able to stand, he's been in a wheelchair. just the whole ceremony you know for bostonians will be something they won't forget for a long time. >> him standing up was like the city of boston standing up and saying they can do it. i want to bring in former white house press secretary and msnbc contributor, robert gibbs, we were talking about the president's speech and how deeply personal it seemed. i noticed he wiped his eyes when he sat down. there was some chatter on the internet about how much he was, the lead writer on this speech. that this was something he worked on for last couple of days. it certainly felt that way. >> i think you heard him tell his personal side of being, having that part of boston in him and how everybody in this country does. i think you could tell there were points at it when i could tell he was getting emotional. and i have no doubt that he has
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spent a lot of time working through this and working on the metaphor of the marathon. and what it means for our country. what it means for boston. i think it was a remarkably powerful speech. and as chuck said, you know, mayor menino was simple, but it was, we are boston. this is boston. you know, deval patrick was the power of all of the stories around this. i think the president's marathon metaphor, that the city and this country will run again. was a fitting cap to a wonderful service. >> you know, chuck, what's also interesting is that the president sort of has appeared on the national stage twice in the last 24 hours. and yesterday's remarks in the rose garden, we saw a president who was indignant, angry, he called it a shameful day in government because of the gun legislation reform failure in
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congress. you did not see anger today, as much as you saw a sharpness to his rhetoric at the interfaith service. it was directed largely to those responsible for the attacks. he said in no uncertain terms, we will come and get you and you will see justice. it's hard because the enemy is unseen and unknown at this point. but a very interesting departure from yesterday's tone to today. >> that's what i mean when i say, this is sometimes you just got to shake your head as somebody who covers this and watches this for a living and sometimes you can't believe the things that are on the plate of a president. all of these different things you have to deal with. the unexpected and sometimes it's the expected and political fights, emotional aspect of this and it's just, you know, this job isn't made for everybody. but i thought it was particularly effective when the president really painted this, the person or persons or group or whoever did this, as such a
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small, small individual or small sort of not trying to give any meaning to anything. i think that was something that bostonians wanted to hear. in this issue it is i'm sure a lot of people up there and a lot of people around the country can't wait to catch who did this so we can put a face with our anger. having the unknown is the most frustrating of all. >> chuck and robert, thank you for your thoughts, if you can hang with us, we'll take a short break, when we come back we'll have more on the investigation into the boston marathon bombing. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
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what exactly is going on with the suspect, the fbi, "the new york post" ran some photographs today, the department of justice said pay no heed to them. one can safely assume the president is being brifed on this. we know the fbi is going to have having a press conference later today. your thoughts as someone who has been in the inner circle at moments like this? >> chuck, in terms of this moment for the president, he's jockeying obviously the position of consoler in chief and someone who is the head of the country when there's a serious investigation going on. it's a tricky proposition going on right now on 1600 pennsylvania avenue. >> lisa monaco's new chief terror adviser on these terror incidents replacing john brennan. a former justice department
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official. i think the white house was a bit bemused yesterday when so many, when a few other of our competing news outlets were going off in a direction that they weren't getting at all. i mean what pete williams was report something what the white house was reports that the white house was getting. >> watching all that, i think there is a concern, i think that may be why they delayed the release of the photos. i know they want the help of the public. they didn't do it because of the way the media has been overreacting. >> it is certainly a fluid situation. we'll be bringing you all of the updates as they come. that's all for now, thank you to chuck and robert. i'll see you back here at noon eastern, "andrea mitchell reports" is coming up next. girl vo: i'm pretty conservative. very logical thinker. (laughs)
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