looking forward to my audit. . it's coming, i know, sir, it's coming. but i would like to take a moment and change gears and say something to the president regarding the events of the past two weeks. i grew up in boston, my parents still live there. and my brother luke raised his family in watertown. i would like to take this opportunity to thank you, mr. president for visiting the great city and helping its people to heal with your inspiring words. it made a huge difference. it's been said recently that you don't mess with boston. as someone who grew up there i would like to echo that sen. it's simple, if you pick on a city, don't choose with one where nine out of ten people are related to a cop.

don't do it, it's stupid. that includes myself. i have one more thing to mention before i go, everyone aobsessed with washington these days, you went crazy for house of cards and homeland and this event tonight. hollywood can't get enough of your world. tonight i'm excited to announce turner broadcaster is going to make a major television mini series about the big power players here in washington. they just finished the casting and i would like to announce who is going to play who. this is big. vice president joe bidden is going to be played by bob barker. former white house adviser davidal axelrod will be played by higginns from magnumpi and paul ryan will be played by mr.

bean. senator chuck schumer will be played by grandma munster. senator harry reid will be played by the old man from the american gothic painting. and fox news ceo roger ales will be played by boss hog, we signed the deal. speaker of the house john boehner will be played by tan mom. secretary of homeland security janet napolitano, will be played by paul giomatti.

former white house chief of staff and chicago mayor, rahm emanuel, will be played by stewie by family guy. secretary of state john kerry will be played by an easter island head. i cannot tell those two apart. supreme court chief justice john roberts will be played by buzz lightyear. senator mitch mcconnell will be played by dame ed na. cnn anchor wolf blitzer will be played by a furbie. and nra executive vice president wayne lapierre will be played by the face melt guy from raiders

of the lost ark and jay carney will be played by ralphie from a christmas story. ladies and gentlemen, this is a huge honor. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> and there you have it. conan o'brien. it was 18 years ago that he did this gig and he has not lost a step. he did not leave a stone unturned. our start with our resident expert of comedy. what grade would you give him? >> i would give him a b plus. almost an a minus, he started out slow and little tight. you're following president obama who killed it and talking about the tragedies and brought people

down a little bit. he was a little tight with the early jokes and loosened up and played with the gavel, as a joke hit with the audience, he became more animated and from there the train was -- he destroyed it to the end. he did a half hour in front of the clock, the first five minutes a little spotty, maybe the nra joke was the one that turned it around with wayne lapier lapierre. >> it seemed we were getting the rapid fire presentation. >> that's part of it. you want to have as many punch lines as you can. before you know it, it builds to laughter and that's what he got. the media one after the other from your network here cnn, huff post, al jazeera, being the immigrant student that nobody knows them.

>> he had great stuff there and really fair in his criticism. never heard anyone make fun of a sitting supreme court justice in front of a sitting supreme court justice when he made fun of scalia. >> here's the thing. one of the moer striking images tonight from my perspective was to see a sitting supreme court justice sitting maybe two feet away from bill o'reilly. it was quite bizarre. >> i agree, it was surreal. i'm like, please, sit a few seats away. don't make it look that obvious. >> kevin spacey, the star of the inelectrovideo, it looks as if he's looking for someone. >> like everybody has an agenda at this thing, yep. >> it's interesting though about this, kerry washington is there and people that play the roles are all there.

>> and for folks throughout the night, we want to apologize for the technical glitch. there was some sort of problem with theer cnectio fro the hilton to us. we do have a portion of the speech that you missed and want to play for you now in its entirety. this is the very end of the president's speech from earlier tonight. take a listen. >> groucho marx once said -- that's that's groucho not carl. before i speak, i have something important to say. and along the same lines, i want to close on a more serious note. there's been no shortage of news to cover over the past few weeks. and these have been very hard days for too many of our citizens. even as we gather here tonight, our thoughts are not far from

the people of boston and the people of west, texas. there are families in the midwest who are coping with terrible floods. we've had some difficult days. but, even when the days seem darkest, we have seen humanity shine at its brightest. we've seen first responders and national guardsmen who dashed into danger and law enforcement officers who lived their oath to serve and to protect. and every day americans who are opening their homes and hearts to perfect strangers and we also saw journalists at their best, especially those who took the time to wade upstream through the torrent of digital rumors to chase down leads and verify facts and painstakingly put the pieces together to reform and educate and tell stories that demanded to be told. if anyone wonders whether

newspapers are a thing of past, all you need to do is pick up or log on to papers like the boston globe -- [ applause ] when their communities and wider world needed them most, they were there making sense of events that might at first blush seem beyond our comprehension, that's what great journalism is and what great journalists do. that's why, for example, pete williams new nickname around the nbc newsroom is big poppy. and in these past few weeks, as i've gotten a chance to meet being first responders and police officers and volunteers who raced to help when hardship

hits, i was reminded as i'm always reminded when i meet our men and women in uniform, whether they are in war theater or here back home or at walter reed in bethesda, i'm reminded that all of these folks don't do it to be honored or celebrated. they do it because any love their families and they love their neighborhoods and they love their country. and so these men and women should inspire all of us in this room to live up to the same standards. to be worthy of their trust, to do our jobs with the same fidelity and the same integrity and the same sense of purpose. and the same love the country. because if we're only focused on profits or ratings or polls, that we're contributing to the cynicism that so many people feel right now.

and so -- [ applause ] those of us in the room tonight, we are incredibly lucky. and the fact is, we can do better. all of us. those in public office and those in the press and those who produce entertainment for our kids, those with power and those with influence, all of us, including myself, we can strive to value those things that i suspect led most of us to do the work we do in the first place because we believed in something that was true and believed in service. and the idea that we can have a lasting positive impact on the lives of the people around us. that's our obligation. that's a task we should gladly embrace on behalf of all of those folks who are counting on us. on behalf of this country that

has given us so much. thank you all for the great work you do. god bless you and god bless the united states of america. >> president obama just moments ago wrapping up his portion of the evening. doing what he has come to do at events like this. starting with the smile and starting with the laughter and then ending on a more serious note, praising some folks in the media, specifically most notably and arguably most deservedly the boston globe and we also certainly appreciated the big shot out to pete williams here at nbc news. president obama moments ago inside the hilton ball room. let's bring the panel back. what do we make of the tone tonight? the president's tone throughout the course of the speech?

do we approve, disapprove? >> i thnk he had the perfect tone. started with the jokes and went after the rivals and also took shots at the media but it would have looked really bad if he didn't take time out to talk about what happened in boston and recognize what's going on in waco and bringing it back around to acknowledge the journalists who did good work during the crisis moments really hit it full circle. >> what did you think? did he hit a home run? >> i think he hit a home run. we both predicted jay-z would be brought up. and we knew this would happen, he took time to say thank you to boston. i love the fact he talked about print media. full disclosure i come from a print background but love the fact he took time to do that. >> conan o brian as well. >> counter balance with conan did. it was nice that president obama

said print is important still and time out to thank you for boston and journalists before conan ripped us to shreds. >> we'll come back to the president in just a secretary. i want to go back to conan for a second. he did work in a lot of material. he didn't focus on just one or two networks, he hit them all. he really though, i felt he really went after the hilton hotel. he spent at least 90 seconds of his spiel railing the hilton. >> which is remarkable. i can see now from watching president obama's closing section why conan o brian struggled in the beginning. it's hard for a comedian to follow that. i say that selfishly. what he did was the right thing. you're sitting there watching that, this is not going to help me, i'm going to struggle in the beginning and sure enough he did.

what he did, we make fun of the room, mocking the room we're performing in, especially if a low level room. this is the hilton though, i don't know if it was personal, had a problem at the hilton, i thought it was interesting but maybe to him it was a segue of something that was not a target to anyone, just like, it's funny and let's get to the heart of it now. >> while we're talking, we'll let our viewers at home know they are watching the nerds go home, the lucky ones have cars booked for them. the rest of those people are going to have to do what folks in d.c. have to do a lot of and that's wait for a cab. on a night like this down on connecticut avenue, good luck getting a cab. we'll see and they'll make their way to the afterparties. some of these are close by and some others are going to be in the car for a while. >> some of the parties are in

the building, literally. >> i thought that was pretty funny. but a lot of them they'll have to make a trek. bumper to bumper to bumper. i saw somebody leaving the hilton with no shoes on, it was that serious. not because hilton is a bad hotel or brand, if you cover the correspondents dinner you expect it to be a lush hotel, it is a older hilton. >> this is the beginning of the president's speech tonight, this is where he's talking about the rookie mistakes, take a listen. >> even after all of this time i still make rookie mistakes, i'm out in california, we're having a nice time and i happen positive mention that harris is the best looking attorney general in the country. as you might imagine, i got in trouble when i got back home. who knew eric holder was so

sensitive? >> based on the reaction there, it almost seems as if the president doesn't tryout any of his material on the first lady, she looks genuinely surprised. >> that's an interesting question, you really does it so it's shocking to her or is she a good actress, sometimes people can laugh at the same joke a second or third time, especially when you tell it once in a room to five people then in front of 1,000 people and everyone is excited. but she's a great sense of humor clearly. it was a funny joke and looked like she had the time of her life. i love the joke about bangs, taking shot at the media showing pictures of the bangs and closing with pictures, using pictures for himself and conan closing with pictures is a great way to refocus the audience. different images, john kerry. >> you bought it up, it was such a hilarious moment. we should replay that one as well. take a look.

>> i recognize that this job can take a toll on you. and i understand second term, need a burst of new energy try some new things, so we borrowed one of my shell's tricks. >> you can tell, she didn't see that before. that was brand-new to her. >> watch the reaction on tim geithner looking at obama, what kind of hair is that. it's priceless if you look at the other angle. >> the preproduction stuff, generally that's feast or famine is goes over really well or like

a farm in church. >> last year a lot were boring and long and did too much. i thing you hit the point, quick, quick, the longest one was kevin spacey but done well. conan, the great joke was chris christy and shaquille o'neal and waiter. >> some of the visuals at this dinner are beyond bizarre. that's a joke that writes itself, chris christie sitting next to shaquille o'neal, any other parties that struck you as just a tad bit odd? >> we mentioned the scalia one. there were a few others -- i forget who it was, they were being made fun of -- >> by him o'reilly. barely cracked a mile when he was going after him. >> bill o'reilly was not

laughing. >> you did an important point, when you are at this event and might be a target, laugh. donald trump didn't do it. make fun of yourself, laugh, just laugh. >> what if you're not a big laugher? >> don't go. >> everyone is looking at you. one quick thing, when you're a comedian and you're chris rock and doing academy awards, you can try your jokes out in the clubs around new york and l.a. president obama has the jokes and never tried them in front of an audience. he hits joke after joke and so much is his ability to bring the joke to life. i think if you're not in comedy, you might be, what are you talking about? jokes it's trial and error. like you see the guys do it -- >> we're going to leave it there. thank you so much. thanks to all of you, we do appreciate you joining us as

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most inmates have the right to make calls from the phone located in the day room of each housing unit. >> they have to make them in three different separate ways, one could be a collect wall or if they had a pre-paid phone card or if the family member sets up a pre-paid account then the men gets deducted to make these calls. >> for melvin sostre, phone calls are restricted due to a court order. >> do you understand that, right? >> go ahead. >> sostre is only allowed to

call his attorney. s sostre's calls must be made in the presence of staff. >> we've been dealing with mr. sos tre for a few months now, he's a known trouble maker. >> sostre was arrested on stalking and violating a protection order filed by the mother of his 2-year-old son. pled not guilty. he's in segregation having placed two more calls to his victim when he was in yen population. it appears, he found a new way of getting around the calling restrictions, by getting another inmate to make the calls for him. that is charles evans. >> evans is calling some woman for sostre and telling her to call sostre's mother and telling her don't visit because he's still in lockup. investigators have determined that evans placed calls to sostremendoso sostre's aunt with a pre-paid

phone call. >> i have a prepaid call from -- >> charles. >> he would give messages to share with other friends and relatives. >> i'm calling for melvin. he said call his mother and tell her not to come and visit. he in the hole. >> the whole conversation was 14 minutes 19 seconds so she's doing three ways for him. he then asked the aunt to use the three-way calling feature to call evans friends or family for him. >> could you dial this number for me set up a three way. as a result he gets a free phone call which comes in handy because he has no money to pay for calls. >> charles evan has a negative balance of $31. doesn't have any money on his books. >> both inmates face disciplinary action. >> really doesn't bother me. i didn't make the phone call. you know, i didn't call my victim.

>> is that how you make the calls? >> if i can't get through to my family and somebody telling me to help them out and they help me out, yes,ma'am. i have a mother that's sick out there. that is how i get on the phone. >> it was like a favor for a favor. he did me a favor but at the same time, i did him a favor. >> wrong is wrong, right is right. i was wrong. i was wrong for a right cause. >> knowing charles evans and how he does things, he's a creature of his own demise, every time i'm sitting there, reading his bible, every single time. he's going to be looking at time in lockup for the situation and he knows what the rules are. he's been in prison and knows how the place works. >> coming up -- >> i like to go around shoplifting and that was one of the only flaws i still had in me. >> charles evans admits to his flaws.

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president obama joined the press corps for the correspondents dinner, he. a mississippi man has been arrested and charged with sending ricin laced letters to president obama and u.s. senator and a judge. judge everett dusty could face life in prison if convicted. we're going to have a lot more news later. but now it's back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. at the cuyahoga county

correction center in cleveland, there's nobody to clean the housing units but the inmates themselves and that suits herbie mckinney just fine. >> it's a daily routine. i clean the sinks three times a day just to keep the sickness down. a lot of these dudes come in from the streets and a lot are coming from heroin too. they call me mr. clean that's because all i do, clean, clean, clean. can't stand a dirty place. we all live here. you got people pissing [ bleep ] on the floor. we do announcements to tell them, whoever is pissing on the floor, stop it. while he awaits trial in a domestic violence charge, her by is honing entrepreneurial skills. >> if guys need something like they run out during the week or come in and don't have nothing. first i have to ask him, what are they here for. if they are here on a merchandise charge they could be

gone the next day. there goes my money out the door. >> thanks, lonnie. >> when commissary comes, they give me three, i give them one back. that's how i make money to help my brother and help me. he's compensated with an extra serving or two a day which supply herb's deli. >> i sold mine for a shebang. >> how many you want? >> two. >> i'll take mine and sell it for $2. that way i can take the $2 and flip it to $4 and make more money. i sell hamburgers and cheese burgers, i do it all. recently i got into telecommunications. i'll tell two calls for three calls back so i get an extra phone call. anything i can do to make a

buck. >> you have to find a hustle when you're in here. you got to. >> herbie has no hustle that will make it possible to see his identical twin brother perry, who is kept in a separate housing unit. >> they won't put us together because it's a security risk. it gets frustrating because i'd like to see him and sit down and talk to him and see what's going on. i love him, that's the love of my life, you know what i mean? >> perry mckinney misses herbie as well. even in jail the haircut can stir up memories of growing up in twinsburg, ohio, home of the annual twins day festival. >> it brings you back to the streets a little bit when you can go to the barber. that's one thing we always do, get our hair cut together. it's funny, sometimes we go to the same barber and he'll tell me this hot chick is over here. go there and mess with her. so i'll go there and didn't i

just cut your hair? >> it was your brother. >> it was my twin brother. >> the brothers have shared plenty of laughs, they also share drug and alcohol addictions that put them in jail dozens of times. perry is currently charged with felonious assault. a fight in which he didn't fare so well himself. >> got my throat slit here, 12 stitches there and 12 to 14 right here, gouge taken out here and my arm was slit as well. bar fight gone bad for both of us. no one died, that's the best part. >> every time i'm in prison or jail it's because of alcohol. i still want to drink a beer. i have dreams of me making beer, brewing it myself. isn't that crazy? >> homer simpson thing going on. >> i grew up perfect, that's why it's sad to see me in a situation like this. disappointing sometimes, get upset thinking about what you've

done to your family. >> takes a big reality check, big punch in the face. this should have warned me right there, all of these marks. i could have been dead and i still went out from the hospital and drank that day. and i continue to drink every day afterwards. it's like god was showing me, and i just never -- it was ringing and i never picked up the phone. >> well, see, i was sleeping and we were wombmates, i was sleeping and the door opened and he took off running so -- he came out. and 14 minutes later i was there. we follow each other everywhere we go. >> it's really weird, our bond. it's like when he hurts, i hurt. it hurts. i'm almost in tears talking about it because we really are

very, very close. and you know, i'd rather be on the outside with him. i don't want to be in jail with him. i can't even -- i can't see him or talk on the phone or -- it sucks bad. we did this, not anywhere else, we can't blame anybody else. i don't know. it's something about us, it's just addiction. >> as a former drug dealer, charles evans was once on the other side of the addiction equation but some might argue he's addicted to trouble. he's recently been charged with assaulting an officer and jail officials say he's been making phone calls for melvin sostre who has a court order prohibiting him from calling anyone but his attorney. >> how are you doing? we were contacted by the detective bureau and mr. sostre is on restriction. we have on recording you placed a call for him. so let me know why you placed this call for him? >> first, i didn't know he was on phone restriction and trying

to get a contact for my mother. my mother got lupus. >> here's the problem. he's on a court order for a judge so you understand, you violated his court order. you're looking at 15 days in lockup. >> what if i didn't know, had no understanding of that, just getting through to my family. >> i have the recording. >> i was talking to my mother. >> but you placed a call -- hold on. i need you to understand -- >> i'm asking you to understand. >> i do understand you want to talk to your mother. >> to know anything -- it was my mother, man. >> i understand but the point is you violated a direct order of the court and procedures also. >> i have consideration for that was my mother. >> like i told you, that's all i'm saying sir. >> okay, thanks. >> he always has an agenda for something he wants or needs. every single lockup he's had i dealt with.

i kind of -- don't want husband and her co-defendant. >> i had a couple of hours to decide if i wanted to take a plea, which i didn't, i didn't want to trust my life to 12 people who couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty. >> and the mckinney brothers are allowed one brief visit. >> how are you doing? is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you need. [ beeping ] these are great! [ beeping ] how are you, um, how are you doing? i'm going to keep looking over here. probably a good idea. ken: what's a good idea? nothing. with coverage checker, it's easy to find your perfect policy. visit progressive.com today.

charles evans has been in and out of cleveland's cuyahoga county correction center for the past 15 years. until the theft conviction that brought him back to jail, he felt his life was on track.

>> my life is rough. i've been on the streets all my life and got my life together in the last three and a half, four years now. i still have minor faults. i like to go around shoplifting, theft, i was boosting as they call it. i was boosting. and that was my one and only flaws i still had in me. >> he was particular about what he stole. >> glasses. >> why? >> sell them for 80, the designer ones -- gucci, dolce -- >> you know all the names -- >> i've been in the business for two or three years. but i gave it up. we live and learn. i'm quite sure i ain't the first one to make mistakes. >> evans was recently given another 15 days in segregation for his part in the three-way calling scheme with melvin sostre, banned from court order from calling anyone other than his lawyer. now investigators have determined that evans had been placing call for other inmates as well.

>> i ran charles evans s.o. numbers on the phone calls, he has 11 phone calls other than mr. sostre's, i'll run the numbers if possibly he called for other inmates in lockup and then did a three-way for himself. >> evans, currently in segregation for arguing with another inmate still has a right to make phone calls. many other inmates have more serious violations. they have lost that privilege. >> i have a pre-paid call from -- >> charles. >> as soon as new people come into lockup, hitting them up for phone call. i can place a phone call for you if you let me make a three-way off your call. he had placed five to six different inmates besides sostre. i'm going to explain what the

situation is. >> what happened now? >> okay. >> you have another aopi on lockup. hope we don't keep going through this. we know you're making calls for sostre and other calls for other inmates. you have placed 17 calls from the unit under your name through other inmates, you place three ways to your families to. they don't have privileges to make any phone calls or have you relate any messages for the inmates. placing you in violation of phone restrictions on the jail. >> you don't have to keep going through this. >> i'm trying to tell you. >> you're looking at lockup time. >> are you admitting to doing this? >> yeah. >> i'm letting you know here's

the situation you're coming into. the recommendation was made by sergeant daniels to place you on phone restrictions, okay? >> okay. >> any questions? >> no. >> okay. please don't come back and waste my time no more. i don't give a [ bleep ] what you do. >> joanne schneider will soon transfer to prison to serve the remaining six and a half years of a nine-year sentence. she recently received for considerably larger hustle. authorities say she ran a ponzi scheme that ripped off investors out of $60 million. she said she was trying to open a business that could have been

a boom with cleveland. >> i'm in love with the city and we're in such lovely renaissance right now. it's just -- it's wonderful. this is my home. >> ironically, schneider has an excellent view of the city's football stadium and lake front from a narrow cell window. but it's a far cry from the life she led with her husband of 49 years, allen schneider. >> he puts money on my books here for the phone. i can call him every day to keep my sanity. and he comes to visit me twice a week. >> booth two. >> thank you. >> no problem. >> i know she's innocent. she knows she's innocent. god knows she's innocent and those are the only three people that matter. >> allen schneider was also implicated on the security and theft charges that sent his wife to prison. prosecutors say he played a lesser role. after reaching a plea deal he received five years probation. >> i had like a couple of hours

to decide if i wanted to take a plea, which i did for the specific reason of i didn't want to trust my life to 12 people who couldn't figure out how to get out of jury duty. >> he's never served time in jail, schneider has spent plenty of time here visiting his wife. >> i visit with joanne twice a week. the advice its -- visits are from 20 minutes to a half hour. the thing i don't like about it here, it's all via telephone through glass. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing okay. >> you look like you're getting around a little better. >> yeah. >> your hair looks good. >> you too. i wish i was home to help you. >> i wish you were home to help me period, home period, not only to help me -- >> hopefully -- >> i eat better when you're at home than cold cuts and hot dogs. >> i worry about that. >> well, don't worry about me. i'll be just fine. take care of yourself -- >> with her transfer to prison

imminent, schneider still does not know how far away she will go. she fears she will be sent to the same prison in which she served time prior to her sentencing, the ohio reformatory for women, 150 miles from cleveland. >> marysville, if you want my honest opinion is the armpit of hell. >> as you well know, there's no guarantees with this judicial system. if you wind up in marysville, we'll deal with that when the time comes. it's a long trek from here to marysville to see you. come back home sooner or later. >> they can't keep me forever. >> your time is up. >> thank you. >> we'll have to say good-bye. >> we have to say good-bye. i love you. >> i love you too. >> i don't know exactly when i'll see him next. tomorrow is friday. it's the day they usually ride the women out of here to go to marysville, ohio.

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identical twins perry and herbie mckinney are the first to acknowledge when they are in each other's presence on the outside, their drug and alcohol addictions escalate. still, being separated inside the cuyahoga county correction center has been painful. >> it's one of the worst feelings in the world too because him and i are so close. you know, i just want to see my brother. it would make life a lot easier

for everybody, especially for me because i love my brother. >> it's a bond that can't be broken, you know? just total love. >> perry has just reached a plea deal that will soon send him to prison. by entering a guilty plea, his felonyious assault karch for a bar fight was reduced to aggravated assault and sentenced to one year in prison. knowing he will soon transfer out, jail officials granted a brief visit with herbie. >> about damn time. hey, what's up? >> how you doing? >> how are you doing? >> you look good. i thought you were skinny. >> man. >> muscles it though. >> [ bleep ]. >> yeah, only muscle you got is in your mouth. >> you look good though. >> thank you. i love you.

>> you too. >> you look great. >> it's great. >> despite their love for each other, the brothers know their relationship poses dangers to them both. >> we destroy each other. >> we can build each other up but then -- it breaks down. >> it's definitely hot and cold. once we go down, we both go down together. >> yeah, we go down together. >> we go with a fight. then we just do whatever we can. we go to all. >> lengths. robbing, stealing. >> i'm surprised no one has been killed yet, which is i'm glad that actually -- >> our actions did not lead to somebody's death. >> exactly. driving drunk could have easily killed somebody. i drive drunk continuously. >> me too. i tell the one guy, if i'm going just a mile down the street, i

got to take a beer with me. >> that's exactly me. >> that's how i used to. i mean, not no more but he's the one. >> but can you stay sober together? >> i know i could. >> i think if we did the steps, say if we went to a rehab together, say a rehab away from like mom, my kids, everybody, just away, just him and i secluded in one little place to where we could focus on us and everything we could work on together. >> together. >> we'll be sweet. >> it would be awesome. >> perry will leave for prison any day now to begin his one-year sentence. and herbie may soon follow to serve time himself. >> i'll see you when i see you. love. >> you love you, too. >> for security reasons, inmates never know exactly what day they will transfer, nor what prison they will be sent to until the morning they leave. and now joanne schneider has just gotten the wake-up call

she's been dreading. she's headed back to the ohio reformatory for women in marysville, 150 miles from her home and her husband. >> my heart is broken. if you look at this garbage bag, that's my whole life in that garbage bag. it's part of that -- part of stripping you of who you are. >> ladies. is it sloppy in there? >> schneider, who must now serve the remaining six years of her nine-year sentence, is allowed one possession most other inmates must leave behind. >> most of the females have to have no underwear. it wasn't her case because she's so much older. i let her keep her items. they can get it from her when she goes to marysville. >> use the restroom, no matter who you are or think you are or who you know or think you know,

i know some of you know big time people. they still won't stop. make sure you use the rest room, okay? pad up if you need to. all right, ladies, step out. all the way to the back. >> can you leave them on a little loose for me? >> all the way through, ladies. stay on the sidewalk when you go around, when you go through. >> all 13 of you are getting in this van, it's going to be crowded. i'm going to grab the if your skinniest and put them in the back row. one, two, three, four. step all the way in the back. all four of you need to be in the back row. >> i have a policeman friend that took me out for dinner before i went to prison. the first time in sitting across the table, i said to him, jimmy, what do i do?

how do i handle this? and he told me you take it like a man, joanne. you take it like a man. and i did and i have done that ever since. >> ladies, take care. god bless. see you. >> bye. >> okay.

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