free vacations at the same guy's lake house. virginia republicans keeping it classy and fast. watch this space. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." thanks for being with us. tonight, the boston marathon bombing case has three more defendants. pete williams of nbc news will join me with the latest on the investigation. three additional suspects have been taken into custody. >> the fbi took into custody three additional people. >> they were roommates. >> two of the people are here on student visas. >> ages 19 and 20. >> suspected of removing evidence after the bombing. >> what they are accused of doing is taking things. >> at least two of them expected to be in court. >> they are accused in obstruction of justice and

making false statement. >> destroying, concealing and covering up a laptop computer. >> a missing laptop. >> they take a backpack filled with fireworks and throw it in the trash. >> that's what the charges are about. >> i think he's there. >> this morning we are learning about the events in boston that led the police to is suspects. >> my body was shaking. i was worried it would come back to me. >> he said he will testify in open court. >> there's a lot we need to learn here. >> it is a fluid situation. >> this is the beginning of a long process. tonight, three more people now face federal criminal charges in the boston marathon bombing according to a complaint. die as cad -- two it by knowingly destroying, concealing and covering up objects belonging to dzhokhar tsarnaev,

mainly a backpack with a computer. impede and obstruct. a third man, robel phillipos. all three men are friends of bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev and began attending the university in dart mouth. don't worry about my pronunciation. they are nationals of -- they

were taken on student visa violations for not regularly attending classes. they shared an apartment in new bedford, massachusetts. they went to dzhokhar tsarnaev's apartment and removed a backpack with fireworks and a jar of vaseline. they watched news report that is featured photographs of a man later identified as dzhokhar tsarnaev and identified the guys as a suspect. they then collectively decided to throw the fireworks into the trash because they did not want tsarnaev to get in trouble. all three had their hearing in court today.

>> he did not know that this individual was involved in the bombing. his first inkling came much later. the government allegations as far as seeing a photo and recognizing him. immediately we dispute. he did not know the items were involved in a bombing or of any value. >> my client feels horrible and was shocked to hear that someone he knew at the university of massachusetts was involved with the boston marathon bombing, just like many other individuals interviewed on campus. he's cooperated fully with the authorities and looks forward to the truth coming out in this case. >> my client is not charged with helping the suspect in any way what so ever before or after and he had no knowledge of the incident and as to the actual charge, misrepresentation of the other two individuals did or did not do.

we'll look forward to litigating that in court. >> joining me now is nbc news justice corporate pete williams and james cavanagh, an msnbc analyst. pete, thank you for being here on the first night of pronouncing the new names. i'm going to need your help. pete, i want to go to the lawyers, first of all, representing the new defendants. are they court appointed lawyers? what do we know about how they got their lawyers? >> no, they are private counsel. some representing the two on immigration, which has arisen a couple days ago when they were picked up. there was a question about their student visas. the fact is the fbi has been trying to figure out what happened here for several days now. as i understand, the sequence of events here.

after tsarnaev is arrested on friday night and after the shootout in waterford, they get his cell phone and look back for the record of his cell phones and texts. he's texts several of these individuals. two, they talked to dzhokhar tsarnaev's actual roommate who tells them the story about these men coming in and taking something out. so that got them on to the trail. they have been questioning the men and trying to figure this out. they, you know, discovered the backpack was thrown away. they find it in the landfill five days ago. the actual backpack. the picture you showed with the fireworks in it came from the fbi from the backpack they have thrown away. the counselors are not court appointed. they are regular, private counsel. >> one person in the clear as of tonight in the investigation was dzhokhar's actual roommate. >> yes.

there's no suggestion here he had anything to do with this. we should say at some point there's no allegation here by the fbi. these three men charged today had anything to do with the bombing itself or were involved in planning or executing it this entire charge has to do with what they did afterwards. what they did after the fbi released the pictures of the two bombing suspects on a thursday night. it's later that evening they go to dzhokhar tsarnaev's dorm room, take the backpack away. the fbi was suspicious he was involved. one texted him and said he look like one of the suspects. he responded lol come to my room and take anything you want. they go to the room and take the backpack out. the next morning, as they are watching the news accounts and the names come out about

tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev, they decide to throw the backpack away. >> on this point of the texting, the fbi is not alleging, it sounds like, that this was a coordinated thing that dzhokhar was saying to them, go to this, i need you to throw that stuff away. >> correct. according to the court documents, he never says i need you to go to my dorm room, get the backpack and take it away. there's an implied invitation, come to my room and take anything umt. it also says they consider it a joke. then they go to the room and find the backpack. that's when, according to the fbi, says one of them knew, at that point, is the term the fbi uses, knew that tsarnaev was involved in the bombing. you heard the lawyer for one of the defendants who says no.

he says no, they did not think they were taking evidence directly related to the bombing out of the dorm room. why they were taking it out, he doesn't say. >> james cavanagh, you have worked investigations like this. you came across this package of evidence, the texts and then the knowledge that these people went to the dorm room, what they did, the roommate tells you this is what they did with that stuff. they got rid of it. what do you make of this evidence as it's gathered now in this case? >> well, they made a clear choice, lawrence. remember, you have to add in the other facts and complaints. dzhokhar told at least one of the brothers a month before he knew how to make bombs. they saw the photographs, got the texts from dzhokhar, take anything out of my room. you look like the bomber, lol. they decided they knew that

dzhokhar was one of the bombers. they made an active criminal choice to obstruct justice, go in there and get the backpack as pete described, the fireworks. the evidence in there, vaseline and other materials and his laptop, which would be significant evidence to stop another attack. these guys had left with other bombs. taking a laptop is serious. agents would want to get in there and see if there's another attack. they obstructed justice. it's serious. >> james, when you say, based on what we know about the case and what you know about the frame of the case, what they did in that dorm room was actually remove the most valuable possible material in there for investigators. >> exactly. the laptop, lawrence, mike reported he talked to one of the

counsels for the defendant. they told mike they turned the laptop over to the fbi. you know, that solves the question, the laptop wasn't in the backpack, but turned over to the fbi. they have already swept it, i'm sure. >> one other thing, the fbi claims in the charging documents that the reason they took the laptop was, and i'm just going to tell you what it says. you can decide the logic on your own. according to the complaint, they didn't want to roommate suspicious they were only taking the backpack, so they took the laptop, too. that's their claim. >> what type of penalties do they face in these charges? >> this is not the end of the game. the government can come back with more charges. this is the opening move by the government. as they learn more, they can add more. the obstruction count is a maximum of five years. lying to federal agent count

against phillipos carry as maximum eight year sentence. there may be more charges down the road. >> thank you both for your guidance tonight. >> you bet. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, you will hear from the man whose car was hijacked by the bombing suspects and how he was able to help the police track them down. tonight, in the rewrite, a personal look at my boston, the place where i grew up and why we are all better off now that my boston no longer exists. very logical thinker. (laughs) i'm telling you right now, the girl back at home would absolutely not have taken a zip line in the jungle. (screams) i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours.

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history was made in boston last night in a local election for a state senate seat that no one outside of boston paid any attention to. the woman who made that history will join me later. next, you'll hear from the man whose car was hijacked by the boston bombing suspects.

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face is concealed and his voice modified. >> it's three nights after the bombing. it's about 11:00? >> yes. >> you are sitting in your car and what happened? >> i saw someone pull over to the curb just behind me. there was a person on the passenger side. jumped out of the car and they walk to my car. looks at my window. i lower it down. suddenly, he put his hand in and opened the door from the inside. >> what did he say to you? >> he took out the gun and said where's the cash. >> how close did he put the gun to you? >> right there. >> right at your head? >> yeah. >> did you think at that moment thrks is the guy the fbi is looking for? >> no. i thought it was a different guy from a picture. >> he asked you a question, didn't he? had you been following the news about the bombings. >> i said i did. >> you take off driving, you had

to be scared to death. >> yeah, i was real scared. >> how did you manage to drive? >> at first, i couldn't manage to drive. my body was shaking. tamerlan told me to relax, don't drive too fast. >> danny followed his directs and drove as the younger brother followed in a sedan. tamerlan soon took over the wheel. >> when dzhokhar got in the car, did he say anything to you? >> not too much. he was quiet. >> did you get a sense from the way they interacted with each other they were equals in. >> i think dzhokhar is a follower. >> why do you say that? >> because dzhokhar went out to the atm. tamerlan never get out of the

car. >> he was the guy doing the errands. >> yeah. yeah. >> they loaded things from the second car into your suv, didn't they in. >> they did. >> what did they put in your car? >> i had no idea at that time. >> you know now. >> explosives. >> when you think back that you were driving around in the car with two people who allegedly committed murder, in the back of the car there are explosives, what do you think now? >> i think i was really lucky. god was with me. >> as the night wore on, danny's friends began to text and call his cell phone wondering why he's not home. >> the phone is going off. did you answer it? >> tamerlan is asking me, who is calling you? i said it's my roommate. he took out his gun and said you say any single word in chinese, i will kill you now.

>> you answered the phone? what did your roommate ask you? >> he was talking in chinese, danny, where are you? >> you couldn't answer because he threatened to kill you. >> i'm going to sleep at my friend's place tonight. what? why you speak english to me. >> i have to go. >> why don't you think they killed you? >> i don't know. >> do you think it's because you weren't american? >> that's not the only reason. we had a lot of conversation. i make him feel that won't do anything stupid. >> he made his move when they stopped at this gas station. they only took cash? >> they only took cash. dzhokhar got out to pay. there was only one in the car. >> if you are going to escape, it had to be quick. >> yeah.

>> what did you have to do? >> i was thinking unfasten my seatbelt and open my door. >> with the left hand you undid your seatbelt then opened the door and took off. >> i took off. >> did he try to grab you? >> he tried to. >> he just missed you? >> just missed me. it was very close. i could feel it. >> danny ran into a different gas station and called 911. he told police they could track the suspects through his navigation system and the iphone he left behind. have you thought because that happened and they tracked them quickly, perhaps you prevented further bloodshed that night? >> i was trying to do, you know, what i can do. >> it couldn't have been too long after that. a half hour later there was a shoot out in watertown and tamerlan was killed.

>> yeah. >> what was your reaction? >> i was worried they would come back to me. when i heard it on the news i feel a little bit of relief. >> you can see more of the interview going to thelastword@msnbc.com. why is chris christie running ads already for the re-election. maybe his re-election isn't a sure thing. the democratic candidate barbara will join me next for a last word exclusive. or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made. about marriage. children. money. about tomorrow. here's to good decisions. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. ready to plan for your family's future?

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in the spotlight tonight, chris christie is running scared. he is running scared of president obama and scared of barbara buono. on the strikingly early date of may 1st, today, chris christie is spending real campaign money on his first television ad. campaign professionals don't like to spend money on tv before voters are paying attention. it's why they spend most of their money beginning after labor day of the election year. everyone in the political media takes chris christie's re-election for granted.

obviously chris christie doesn't. he's running in a state where president obama won 58% in the last election. the president easily crushed the presidential candidate chris christie endorsed and was supporting in new jersey. both of senators in new jersey are democrats. they have not sent a republican to the united states senate since 1972. running scared in new jersey for republicans statewide is the smart way to run. joining me now is the woman who has chris christie running scared, new jersey state senator, democratic candidate for new jersey governor. how surprised were you that chris christie jumped out on may 1st with a tv byte. >> it was surprising. his numbers are inflateed from the aftermath of sandy. he doesn't need it for name recognition. he's got 100% name recognition. >> let's look at the ad that

started running today. >> four years ago, new jersey was broken, run away spending, the nation's highest taxes and unemployment on the rise. then we elected chris christie. he made the tough decisions to get new jersey back on track, taxes cut, spending cut, government made smaller and smarter. a real property tax cap working with democrats and republicans believing that as long as you stick to your principles, compromise isn't a dirty word. the result, four balanced budgets in a row. no new taxes for anyone. the best job growth. 130,000 new private sector jobs. merit pay for teachers and the best funding ever. the most important thing he did has little to do with numbers, statistics or politics. he made us proud to say we are from new jersey.

chris christie, the governor. >> senator buono, you were shaking your head. >> it appears he's suggesting new jerseyans are proud. i was born and raised in new jersey and have been proud for a long time. we are not proud of his record. 400,000 are out of work. property taxes haven't risen on millionaires, but they have risen 20%. he's living in an alternative universe. we are at the bottom of the barrel in economic growth but he's calling it growth. i beg to differ and i'm going to change that. >> newtown shooting victims have come to new jersey. one came to trenton for a press conference yesterday. let's listen to what nicole had to say.

>> the time it took him to reload in one of the classrooms, 11 children were able to escape. that was dylan's classroom. he was not able to escape. i'm one of those parents who ask myself every day, every minute if those magazines held ten rounds instead of 30, forcing the shooter to reload many more times, would my son be alive today? >> i think the answer is yes, her son probably would be alive today. what is your answer to that? what is chris christie's answer to that? >> he's had a failure of leadership on this. it's unfortunate. i met with the parents in trenton. after coming out of that meetling, i don't know how anyone can disagree to reduce the magazine capacity to ten. it's a matter of lives. five more bullets, five more lives could have been taken. we talked about our kids, too.

it was a wonderful conversation. she related in the one classroom, all the children were killed. in another classroom, his gun jammed. there was hesitation and so many children's lives were saved. for me, that underscored how important, how vital it is in any gun safety package to include the reduction of magazines. >> i think the magazine size is the most important. that's how they stopped the shooter in the gabby giffords shooting. chris christie does not support limits on magazines. >> no, he doesn't. there's a disagreement in the senate and assembly. hopefully we are going to have a meeting of the minds and pass something meaningful. itis time to stand-up to the gun lobby. i'm going to fight with every fiber in my being to get it passed. when i'm governor, it will be one of my priorities.

>> in new jersey, where do you think your key vulnerability targets are in campaigning against chris christie. what are the top three ways to get voters going your way? >> jobs and the economy. we have over 400,000 people out of work. new jersey's middle class shrunk under this governor. property taxes have risen 20%. middle class and the working poor are suffering. in essence, this governor's policies have hurt them. he's turned his back on them. i feel it because i lived that. on your show last time, i talked about that. the funding of public schools has fallen short. his first year in office, he cut over $1 billion in public schools. i consider public education the foundation of democracy. if i grew up and didn't have

quality public school education to build on and quality higher education that was affordable, i wouldn't be running for governor. >> thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having me. coming up in the rewrite, how history was made in boston last night. the story of politicians and gangsters and boston's reputation as a racist city. the old boston and the new boston are in the rewrite. we'll be joined by the woman who made history in boston last night and she did it in the neighborhood where i grew up. . he's not gonna sell you some labradoodle, he's gonna sell you tropical fish! he's got salt water tanks, fresh water tanks, brackish tanks, tanks you can't even fathom. that fish?! no you're not ready for that fish. precision aquatic manipulation. he boils his water perfectly for his velveeta shells & cheese. advantage. this guy.

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last night, it was easy for the boston globe and associated press to call the race for ed markey to take over what was the john kerry senate seat. that was the easy call of the night. the tough call was the local race for the state senate seat that covers the neighborhood that i used to live in in

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whitey bulger wasn't a well known name in boston. then, no one imagined that whitey would be the inspiration for a jack nicholson character. i never met whitey, but i med the godfather of the boston mafia. he was a gangster's gangster. they all looked up to jerry. he was more than respected, held in awe by his soldiers. whitey bulger. no one cared about whitey bulger. no one liked him. he was a rat of a gangster. the only reason anyone ever thought about whitey was his brother. he was billy's brother. that was his minor claim to fame in the boston underworld.

billy bulger was the state senator who represented by district and whitey bull jers district in the massachusetts legislature. billy wasn't just the senator, he was the president of the massachusetts senate. billy was by far the most powerful person in massachusetts's government and his brother was a gangster and a mudderer. governor's came and went, democrat and republican, but they all had to deal with billy. most of the time, they had to do what billy wanted them to do. one thing all governors had to do is come to billy's st. patrick's daybreak fast where billy would sing, tell jokes about his politically powerful guests and bask in the pure joy of his power. here is billy 20 years ago joking, but not really joking

with the republican governor bill about who really runs the show. >> looking well. enjoy your corned beef and cabbage. silver is coming back without natalie. >> as long as he still has you. oh, i get it. you are going to be running against me? maybe i'll let them all in on the big secret between you and me. >> not that. >> you all think he's the governor? >> at that same breakfast, billy made a rare public reference to his brother, the murderer. he did it in song, with the governor. and it brought the house down.

♪ you're going to be a millionaire, there is no doubt ♪ ♪ for i had your brother pick these numbers out ♪ >> so, there's the republican governor, william weld, singing with billy about billy's gangster brother rigging the massachusetts lottery so billy would win. bill weld's job before becoming governor was local u.s. attorney. he was supposed to put gangsters like whitey bulger away for life and there he is singing about whitey with billy in public for all to see and all to laugh about. in my boss ton, it wasn't even slightly weird the president of the senate had a brother who was a gangster and murderer. we had outcomes like that. we didn't have to answer for our

brothers. everyone understood that. billy never had to answer for whitey. a gangster brother would sink you in politics anywhere else, but not in my boston. billy loves the title president. when he left the senate, he gave himself the presidency of the university of massachusetts, which is, of course, owned by the state of massachusetts, which was then owned by billy bulger. billy paid himself a lot more as umass president than in the senate. he had no academic credentials or experience that made him qualified for a university presidency. by that time, whitey was a hunted fugitive, wanted for multiple murders and people outside of my very understanding neighborhood wanted to know what billy knew about whitey.

>> mr. bulger, have you talked to your brother, james since 1995 and if so, where was he and where is he now? >> on advice of counsel, i am unable to answer any questions today. this position is based on privacy and due process rights. and the right against being compelled to provide evidence that may tend to incriminate myself, all of which are found in the bill of rights including the rights and privileges under the first, fifth and sixth amendments to the united states constitution. >> now, billy didn't sing for congress. it was a fast downhill for billy from there. he was forced to resign his final presidency months later. no single picture tells you more about the ugliest truth about my boston than this one.

i'll never forget the black man's name, ted landsmark walking near city hall when he was attacked for nothing other than the color of his skin. the attacker was one of the endless stream of protesters against school bussing in boston in those days. this is the image that black america has about boston. my boston. to this day, 37 years later, when i meet people and say i'm from boston, i find ways to reassure them that i am not that guy. the guy with the flag. the school buses carrying black children into billy bulger's district were stoned. they threw eggs at ted kennedy in those days. boston was full of racist and hate. billy bulger's boston, my

boston. his seat has been occupied by white guys from south boston and the political world thought it would always be even though there are more voters in dorchester. last night, the boston globe called the primary election for billy's seat for the white guy, once again. but linda from my neighborhood in dorchester refused to concede. instead, she gave a victory speech in english and haitian creole. today, with all the votes counted, the winner in the race for what was once billy bulger's seat in the massachusetts senate is the dorchester daughter of haitian immigrants. she will be the only black member of the massachusetts senate.

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to be here and stand here in front of all of you and stand here as the democratic nominee -- >> for me, the most important election out come in massachusetts was not ed markey winning for the united states senate. that is a very important job, but that election was decided the day ed markey announced his candidacy as i predicted on this program. what i was watching nervously were the election returns in the state senate district where i used to live. that election was the stuff of history. joining me now for an exclusive interview is the winner of that election. massachusetts state

representative, linda. thank you for much for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> so, you had a wicked night. the boston globe endorsed you in the campaign, then they called the election for your opponent, the guy from south bee always wins. you refused to concede. the dust clears, the votes are counted and you are the winner. what was that night like for you? >> you know, we had -- first of all, i'm happy to be here on the team. we had an amazing team, campaign team and volunteers and everyone on the ground. we had folks closing the polls. we knew by our numbers we were the winners. so, when that happened, i felt sad for the other side. they had volunteers as well who work so hard and to be excited and deflated.

but for us, it was about hitting the ground and doing the work of the people and getting out there and letting people know who i am in terms of serving as a state rep for the past eight years. >> linda, do you feel the weight of history that i feel for you as someone who grew up in that district seeing you as the first woman elected there. seeing dorchester finally win one in that district? obviously, you being haitian-american is the big news of the night for that district. do you feel all that or did it just feel, to you, growing up there this is something you were going to be able to do? >> i'm telling you, to me, it felt like it was something i was going to be able to do. i'm a native bostonian. i love this opportunity. i'm humbled by it and honored to be the nominee, the democratic nominee for the district.

it's going to be work. we have been out in south boston and hyde park. it makes up the first suffolk district. it's something we have been doing for a long time, been breaking barriers for a long time. representing the first seat is nothing new to me. my husband is irish-american. we celebrate irish culture and haitian culture and african-american culture. for me, this is an amazing opportunity to continue the work for the state senate. >> i want to show you a picture i took of you ten days before the election. there i was peacefully having brunch. by the way, the word brunch didn't exist there when i was

growing up there. you are on the campaign trail and stop by my table and there you are feeding the youngest, i guess, of the four. we had a nice chat. you went back out chasing votes and looks like you chased just enough of them. >> we did. we chased just enough. it was so nice meeting you, lawrence. we are proud of you, by the way as a dorchester guy. that is baby norah, she will be 1 on july 1st. when i ran we had one child who is now 9. connor is 6. three kids in office. now four. it's really been a blessing. i have an amazing support. my husband is fantastic. i wouldn't be able to do this job if it wasn't for him, bill forry by my side from the beginning.

my incredible parents, i have to give them props. i sit here because of them. they left haiti to come here for a better life. in the process, they had their children and taught us the importance of being connected to community and giving back. we are doing well in school. we didn't have a million bucks in the bank account. i was able to do well in school to get a scholarship in boston. my parents, you know, i love my parents and they did a fantastic job. >> is this your first national television interview? >> you know what this is -- my first talking about myself. when president obama first ran the first time, i was a surrogate for him on some tv shows. this is the first time, yeah. >> good. i want people to look back on this and use this video when you are in your presidential

campaign, i don't know, 20 years down the road or when ever that's going to happen. it is my honor to say that linda forry, the history maker in boston gets tonight's last word. thank you, linda. >> thank you, lawrence. friends. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. whose side are you on? the side of terrorists who attacked hundreds of people killing three, wounding dozens and dozens more, or are you on the side of the country you're living in, the country you've come to study in, learn from, become an adult in? on the side of the person identified as the killer or on the side of those he killed and those he deliberately tried to kill. before someone starts singin