have a great birthday, mika. thank you for holding this family together. time for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd. take it away. >> sorry, luke. >> behind bars. three friends. the surviving boston suspect now charged in connection with the marathon bombings. new details this morning as investigators continue to piece together what happened in the days after the attack. up in arms. the republican senator behind the bipartisan effort to expand background checks for gun sales blames his own party for the plan's failure. picking politics over policy. exactly what the president accused congress of earlier this week. also this morning, house divided. new signs today that immigration reform is possibly heading the way of gun control. good morning from washington. it's may 2nd, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd. we begin with the arrest of

three men in the wake of boston bombings. we want to stress none of them are accused of participating in the attack. instead they face charges for allegedly trying to help their friend accused bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev days later. the two 19 year olds from kazakhstan that went to school with tsarnaev, are accused of obstructing justice. they reached out to their friend after they saw fbi images of the bombing suspects. court documents say one of the individuals texted tsarnaev to say he resembled one of the suspects. tsarnaev responded lol and wrote come to my room and take whatever you want. the two men along with a third robel phillipos did that. they removed a laptop and backpack containing fireworks. the two men from kazakhstan admitted to throwing the back

back in a dumpster later recovered from landfill. the laptop was turned over to the fbi and an attorney said he didn't realize his actions would impact the boston bombing investigation. >> he did not know those items were of interest in a bombing or any evidentiary value. >> robel phillipos is accused of making false statements to law enforcement. he faces another hearing monday. the other two men are in the custody of u.s. marshals. their next hearing set for may 14th. pete williams is nbc's justice correspondent and joins me now. these folks have no involvement with the initial planning of the bombing but what are authorities hoping to get from them in terms of information and can they provide anything extremely helpful in this case that could help prosecute tsarnaev? >> they have been questioned a great deal by the fbi already.

phillipos has been questioned several times. his story kept changing the fbi says and he initially denied ever going to the dorm room. that's why he's charged with making false statements. the fbi says all three men were at the apartment the morning the backpack was thrown away but they claim that only the two students from kazakhstan actually threw it away. phillipos claims he was asleep at the time. but that's why they face the obstruction of justice charge. their lawyers say they have all cooperated with the fbi and told authorities quite a bit that is also interesting about this, luke, the fbi claims that the three men say that a couple of them went to the charles river in boston a month or so, a couple months before the bombing with tsarnaev, the younger tsarnaev, and set off fireworks. they say about a month and a half ago, about a month before the bombing, they were eating a meal with tsarnaev and he told them i know how to make a bomb. they've been giving them a lot

of information about both events leading up to and what they did with tsarnaev after the bombing. >> reading into this a little bit, two gentlemen were here on student visas that expired. that will instigate a larger conversation. >> they had to stay in school to keep student visas active. that's the issue. >> pete williams, known to president obama as big pappy. thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. as washington debates immigration overhaul, the president leaves for his fourth visit to mexico as president. a three-day trip which will end at a summit with central american leaders in costa rica. >> we have spent so much time on security issues between the united states and mexico that sometimes i think we forget this is a massive trading partner.

that doesn't mean we're not going to talk about security. i think that in my first conversation with the president he indicated to me he continues to be concerned about how to work together to deal with drug cartels. >> nbc's peter alexander is live at the white house for us. this is president obama's first trip to mexico to meet the new president. what is the administration hoping to accomplish on this trip? >> reporter: that's a good point that you make. the first conversation the two are going to have face to face. among the issues that will be spoken about in the course of their conversations this evening of course with mexican president enrique pena nieto. security has potential of overshadowing other topics because since pena nieto came into power in december, he's pressed to end the mexican access granted to u.s. agencies fighting drug trafficking and

organized crime which is a shift from his predecessor. the issue of trade is important. one the white house wants to focus. one of the advisers to the president telling us yesterday that they hope specifically to focus on enormous commercial relationship between the two countries. >> real quick, an announcement today? >> announcement of a longtime friend of the president dating back to the 1990s was national finance chair in 2008 and she will be nominated in an hour from now as commerce secretary. she'll become the fourth woman on the president's cabinet now in his second term and also likely the wealthiest by far the wealthiest. her network listed by "forbes" at $1.85 billion. she's the hyatt hotel heiress.

>> peter alexander money there. new numbers provide a reminder of why divided government is a recipe for gridlock. pat toomey explains why he didn't get his bill he co-authored through the senate. >> i think in the end we didn't because our politics have become so polarized. there are people on my side who didn't want to be perceived to be helping something that the president wants to accomplish simply because it's the president who wants to accomplish it. it's a heavy lift to get five senators to change their mind about a high profile issue like this so i'm just not sure that it's likely to happen any time soon. >> according to a "the new york times"/cbs new poll, even republicans overwhelmingly support background checks to gun buyers and path to citizenship for illegal immigrants but asked about president's handling of

the issues and voters retreat into partisan camps. 17% of republicans approve of the president's handling of gun policy. 41% of voters approve overall. 52% disapprove. only 15% of republicans approve of how the president has handled immigration reform. overall americans are divided. supporters of the immigration bill moving through the senate are aware of the danger that despite broad support the conservative house could kill or alter their bill beyond recognition. the other unknown quantity, could the boston attack give momentum to opponents of reform. so far polling suggests a majority leave the events are unconnected but the bill's republican supporters are weary of land mines. they argue that boston shows the status quo is unsustainable. >> maybe it's part of overall immigration reform we should look at the process of who is allowed into this country under what circumstances.

what is their situation and background? if these people are able to come and go as freely as one of the brothers was and one of these individuals, we have a system that certainly needs some repair. >> nbc's senior political editor mike murray is here with this morning's first read. we look at these polls and you see t see they are divided. in regards to immigration, do we see a pathway forward here or are we seeing the idea that the longer it's out there the easier for conservative interests in the house to destroy it. >> two ways to look at it. in divided government there's an inclination for the opposition party not to give the incumbent party a win. they would see gun control and having the senate pass that

would give the president a win. you see resistance and people who have been against immigration reform from the get-go saying let's hold the brakes. we don't want to give president obama a win. that's one view. the other view is that there is an incentive for republicans to be able to get something done. they don't want to lose another presidential election in 2016 or 2020 losing 70% of the latino vote and there are a lot of republicans and a lot of people in the republican leadership who say even though we don't think this is going to be a long-term fix it problem. we need to end our problem with latinos to be able to move forward in national elections. >> we're seeing the divide now coming out through polling of is gop willing to upset a small part of their mostly white base in order to try and make some inroads with the latino numbers which are growing more rapidly? >> right. we've seen this dynamic play out in the house of representatives time and time again where house speaker john boehner brought legislation to the house floor that doesn't have support of the

majority of his caucus. another indication on will he end up doing something like that? all indications from boehner, house budget chairman paul ryan, they seem to be for this. the question is whether a base allows them to do so and biggest indication is the senate can pass immigration with 70 senators, half of the republicans, that would force boehner to say, folks, we need to take our medicine and bring this to the floor. >> interestingly enough, hillary clinton may have got support from someone not ordinarily associated with democratic presidential candidates. henry kissinger. let's play this quick. >> four secretary of states became president and that sort of started focusing my mind. i want to tell hillary when she misses the office, she looks at the history of secretaries of

state and there might be hope for her fulfilling life afterwards. >> a new poll, hillary clinton, 65, joe biden, 13. a huge part of the democratic wing is going to launch a new national campaign to put a woman in the white house today at 9:30 a.m. they're not doing that to gillibrand. >> this is about putting pressure on hillary clinton in a gentle way. we see it from draft hillary campaign that is holding events for her. we're seeing this from former republican secretary of state henry kissinger. not aggressive yet but supporters if you are an organization like emily's list, you want her to run. people are putting gentle fresh out there. in 2015, that's the year she has to decide. >> it's remarkable. how hard would it be to turn

those people down? thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. up next, a reality check on immigration reform. is the one issue seeming like democrats and republicans come together but infighting among house republicans could kill any chance at a bill. a possible breakthrough in the attack on the consulate in benghazi. the government is asking for the public's help. that's a busy, busy politics planner right there traveling down south a little bit. hopefully this town hall is nicer for her. kris kross, daddy mac. ♪ [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's

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four months ago it seemed like immigration reform was the one issue where compromise was possible. now it faces obstacles in congress as house republicans examine the senate's gang of eight plan. even marco rubio, the face of this senate immigration reform bill is now expressing doubt the gang of eight's proposal can pass the house. >> the bill that's in place right now probably can't pass the house. it will have to be adjusted because people are very suspicious about the willingness of the government to enforce the laws now given our experience with immigration that's a legitimate suspicion and one that i share. >> there's one person in washington who is still optimistic that a deal can be reached. >> i feel confident that the bipartisan work that's been done on immigration reform will result in a bill that passes the senate, passes the house, and

gets on my desk. >> can a deal get done? >> joining me now is robert costa and msnbc contributor maria theresa cumar. >> i love the pronunciation on that. >> i want to go to you first. that quote by rubio admitting that this faces an uphill battle in the house is telling to me. i spoke to one member of the gang of eight who says that marco rubio is more important than 50 gangs of eight. if this needs to be changed, it's a jenga game. you pull out one thing and the whole thing can fall. this is significant. this is not a slam dunk by any means in the u.s. house of representatives. >> what's happening in the house is interesting. you have two different groups working.

a housewo working group. and both groups will take their time especially chairman of the judiciary committee. he wants to make it more easy to pass. rubio recognizes that it's going to be a slow walk. >> in terms of the electoral strategy, obviously you guys want to see immigration reform move forward. in terms of election politics, if the house gop, this blocking minority stops immigration reform that had marco rubio's name on it, that's a big precedent for democrats. >> the republican party is going to have a latino vote problem if they don't pass comprehensive immigration reform. that's why rubio is on board and you have senator flake and mccain on board. they understand if they don't pass immigration reform, they don't have a shot the latino voters for 2014 but also not for

2016. >> in terms of the house, it seems like it's coming down to one of the issues, where if it comes out of the senate with 77, 75 votes, it comes to boehner's office and boehner has to do another bite the bullet gut wrenching decisions probably not going to get majority of the house. >> how does john boehner handle immigration if it comes shooting out of the senate, 60, 70 votes, what does the house do? the house says they'll break it up. there will be a lot of pressure. you see paul ryan in the house, chairman of the budget committee, former republican vp, he's pushing for immigration reform hard behind the scene. leadership pro at reform. they're cautious. they know the base is sensitive to the issue. there will be pressure on boehner to bring the whole bill to the floor. i doubt he'll do that. >> incremental doesn't fit with what latinos want out there.

that won't pass the smell test. >> you are talking about unlikely bedfellows. you have grover norquist organization and you have evangelical groups and you have unions and you have the chamber of commerce saying we need to pass something massive. there's a slow window of opportunity that's closing. let's not forget, 70 votes coming out of the senate, that's a big indication that it's a bipartisan support and that's the number they're looking for. 60 votes doesn't cut it. 70 votes signals to the house this is something that bipartisan support that both republicans and democrats want. >> why i think the vote count doesn't matter that much is there's an ideological divide within the republican party. some people really think if you have a path to legalization or citizenship, you're not doing this the right way. they only want to do border enforcement and giving a criminal who is an illegal immigrant is path to legalization and some republicans turn away from that.

as much as they tinker with the bill or as much as there's 60, 70, 80 votes in the senate, you'll have a big group of republicans in the house resistant to this. >> if they don't provide a pathway to citizenship, we have to take a step back and look at the moral consequences. we'll have 11 million people within our borders that are a second-class citizen. that's an issue. >> 83% support a path to citizenship. lastly, an interesting fact has come out of this. this sort of distrust of government. it's really playing a lot in the minds of conservativeconservati. you see ads that say support marco rubio. support conservative immigration reform. why a distrust of government on this issue? >> the 2007 immigration reform mess. they tried to shove it down our throats and the obama

administration and house republicans have a rough relationship. they don't trust the government right now with the current administration to enforce the rules should some comprehensive package pass. >> the thing is the obama administration overenforced the rules. it's a net-net when it comes to deportation. they have gone in and done enforcement mechanism but haven't provided relief. >> lastly real quick both of you. do you think it happens? >> i think something happens in the senate. i think in the house it's still an open question. they want something to come out of the house. the question is it the gang of eight's plan? >> they need something for 2014 election or they are hanging their shots. >> what does it look like is the million dollar question. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. still to come on the "the daily rundown", another state is poised to legalize same-sex marriage. plus, we'll tell you which big name republicans are sticking by

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last month a new york district judge ordered that the fda make the pill widely available despite age. the justice department says the judge didn't have the authority to make that order but indicated it is willing to ease restrictions on the pill to some degree. the fbi is asking for the public's help in finding three individuals who were on the grounds of the u.s. consulate in benghazi the day an attack killed four americans last september. the agency released grainy photos of the men. one appears to have a beard and the other a shaved head. the fbi is asking the public to e-mail any tips to benghazitips@ic.fbi.gov. rhode island will join other states in allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry. a former republican plans to sign the same-sex legislation into law following a procedural vote in the general assembly.

he argued that tolerance was a key part of drawing new companies and workers to his state. even though the national republican congressional committee withdrew their support for mark sanford two weeks ago, some big republican names are throwing their weight behind his congressional campaign. republican senator tim scott gave his support yesterday and in a tweet republican senator lindsey graham also vouched for sanford saying in congress mark sanford will vote to cut wasteful spending eliminate debt and make government work for the taxpayer. we need him in washington. senator rand paul in freedom works, the tea party group, endorsed sanford on tuesday and the governor appeared at a fund-raiser for sanford last night. getti inting help from his own . we have more on the south carolina special election and republicans lining up behind mark sanford despite his legal

troubles. check that out on our website rundown.msnbc.com. you're looking live here at the opening bell winging on wall street. the markets got a boost this morning when a new report showed weekly jobless claims dropping to the lowest level in almost five years. not bad. applications fell 18,000 to a total of 324,000. they signed fewer layoffs and potentially more hiring. we'll learn more about the state of the economy tomorrow when we get that infamous april jobs report. up next, president obama signed legislation ending faa furloughs. he called it a short-term band-aid. next, a deep dive into why airport delays got lawmakers' attention while massive cuts in other federal programs have not. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc.?ñ?h

>> that's the music. today we take a deep dive into the sequester cuts. those rules congress put in place to force the federal government to tighten its belt. it was working until last friday. that's when congressional lawmakers saw faa furloughs take their toll in the form of longer lines and flight delays. so they took action. kind of. what congress did was take money earmarked for airport repairs down the road and used it to plug the financial hole left by the sequester. president obama signed the legislation into law wednesday but before he did he criticized it as a short-term band-aid that treats the symptoms rather than the disease. >> these cuts are scheduled to keep falling across other parts of the government that provide vital services for the american people. and we can't justi can't keep puttiput ing band-aids on a cut.

i hope members of congress will find the same sense of urgency and bipartisan cooperation to help the families still in the crosshairs of these cuts. >> the programs he's referring to include things like head start which is slated to lose almost $400 million in the fiscal year. meals on wheels says budget restraints will result in organization serving 19 million fewer meals. while congress was quick to act when air travelers and they themselves faced uncomfortable delays, cuts to those other federal programs still remain in place. outside of a bill designed to restore funding to cancer clinics, no serious efforts to reverse those cuts have been introduced recently. josh green is a senior national correspondent for bloomberg business week and he joins me now. josh, thank you so much for joining me. this is fascinating to me on a number of levels. let's start with what you spoke about. where did we see the initial

action by congress to protect their privileged airport program? talk to us a little bit about what they did when they protected their airport program and tried to avoid these delays caused by the faa furloughs. >> one of the big lines of criticism when it became clear that congress was going to try to lift these faa furloughs and get rid of flight delays is people said that's not fair. they are just catering to the rich, business travelers who tend to vote in high numbers and as you said they are leaving out poor people and seniors whose benefits aren't being restored. it's worse than that. what congress is doing is more cynical than just helping travelers. what they are really doing is helping themselves because as i'm sure you know, there is no more pampered class of traveler than members of congress themselves who have extraordinary benefits. >> some of these benefits are just unbelievable. there's a free parking lot for them at national airport, which results in about $800,000 a year. $750,000 a year in terms of

taxpayer money going to free parking that could be used for profit. one thing i find interesting here. we hear so much about the faa furloughs. people were tweeting about it. everyone had a flight delay. we're not hearing about the interesting antidotes around the country of real cuts to folks who are not as fortunate. indiana you had lotteries for head start. kids don't have a place to go. arkansas had 13 days of school cut. went to summer vacation early. bus service delays. you are sort of seeing these massive cuts to these social programs and we don't hear the outcry. why is that? >> one of the sad truisms of congressional politics is that the weakest groups also have the weakest representation. head start doesn't have the same kind of lobbyists as the airline travelers association. that sort of thing. the people affected by those cuts tend not to have the same platform. they don't speak out in the same way that a wealthy ceo whose

flights are being delayed can make noise and get congressmen worried enough to turn around and remove these laws. so what you have are basically these back door cuts to people, programs for seniors, and stuff that affect rich upper middle class people will get removed if they make enough noise. that's the lesson of the furlough removal. >> what i found interesting about this is you saw leaders like nancy pelosi, president obama, harry reid, all sort of come out and say it's absolutely ridiculous that we can't find the money for head start, meals on wheels and other programs. it's not like they lined up to stop this bill from moving forward and stop the pain inflicted on air travelers. >> the whole puzzling thing about this strategy from the white house is it seems to undermine the very strategy the white house said it had for removing the sequester. famously warned this will be terrible when cuts are inflicted. here we have an example with travelers of people really responding to that and making an outcry.

the strategy the white house put forward is when it gets uncomfortable enough, republicans will have to yield on the whole sequester and write a more intelligent law with better cuts. they undermined their own strategy by saying we'll remove it just for this rich group of travelers who are complaining so loudly. >> something that republicans have taken an electoral win almost. they had that hash tag pound obama flight delays sort of we liberated the country from this. >> hard to argue with that logic. republicans would cut the same programs being cut under the sequester, meals on wheels, programs for elderly and try to protect upper class of wealthy travelers many of whom vote republican. they are getting what they want when you look at cuts lifted and cuts left in place. >> to sort of close this out, what do we think is up next on the horizon. i read articles saying that any type of border security funds could be taken away and they'll be stuck back in there in light of what's happened in boston. anything else you see on the

horizon? >> i think the lesson from faa example is that causes that make the most noise are going to get that attention. you can imagine they would be terrorism and homeland security. i think some of the cuts for cancer treatment, that's an issue that really resonates with people. and anything elsewhere a washington lobbying group can make enough noise to capture the attention of congress and threaten members into thinking i'll pay a price in my next race if i don't help out this interest group. >> it will be interesting to see whether or not head start and meals on wheels will get their voices heard louder. thank you so much. we appreciate it. great article on the flight delays. everyone check out that article and watch senators run from the camera in the private airport. great stuff. coming up, the drum beat for a hillary clinton run is getting even longer. first, the white house soup of the day. this is rajun cajun gumbo.

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daily flashback. the man known as iron horse chose to watch the yankees play the tigers from the dugout. he never played a major league game again. his record of 2,130 consecutive games stuck until cap ripkin, jr., broke it in 1995. greatest sport record of all time. the president's second term agenda is on the rocks just 102 days in and with big issues like immigration and sequester looming, the question is what kind of help can he expect from republicans on capitol hill. let's bring in former rnc chairman michael steele and from

the wor"the washington post," a here and also joan is here. thank you for being here. this whole sort of idea that's come out in the last press conference from president obama, this is bill clinton in 1995. e.j. deon said this in "the washington post" today. do we have the graphic. in the areas he does control, obama has to talk less about hurdles he faces and more forcefully about what he's going to get. where does he go now? where can he move on this stuff? >> think it's hard for him to move. i love e.j. he's a genuine friend not one of those people you say is your friend. he's a rell frieal friend. i agree with him all the time. we're beating on this president when you have to go back to that pat toomey quote go guns that shows liberal fantasies about how the president has to get

back in the game, be tougher, make better deals, it is not going to work. he's really got people who are determined to see him fail. i do agree with the tone, however. the tone of late has been little wi whinier than we would like to hear. in terms of what he can do, it's hard. >> there seems to be this sort of mindset from him, you said whining but this sort of i'm done with it. you see the way the people treat me. what am i supposed to do? that's not good for democrats to have that opinion in 2013. >> this is always been something of his approach. he's always wanted to reason with people and if reason didn't work, that's their problem. they should be reasonable. he never enjoyed arm twisting. i think what we see now is you knew a second term was going to be tough and that lame duck status would set in at some point. i think probably to the surprise of anybody in the white house, it is creeping up on them even sooner. if they're going to do immigration which is probably

the one thing -- he talked about guantanamo. i don't really think anyone at the white house is readying their big guantanamo push that's going to happen. immigration is what they have to focus on. >> will republicans bend on immigration? >> they'll have to. >> you think they have to. even in the outside as the chairman says he wants to do a piecemeal approach. >> that feeds the appropriate horses that need to be fed in the stable but reality is gop needs this to get done. you cannot go into the upcoming cycle with immigration nonreform along with the tag now between the nra and party in blocking substantive reforms on gun issues, going into those elections even in those districts that are red, polls show they want movement on guns. they want movement on immigration. the party cannot be standing in the doorway going no. i think that there's going to be movement there.

i'm looking at paul ryan as sort of a key player here. very quietly in the background shoring up what he needs to shore up and peeling off votes he's not going to get. he knows the folks he can't bring to the stables or take out of the stables to actually get out in the field and run. >> kentucky derby week. >> preakness, baby. i think paul ryan and a few hands in the senate will massage this thing through. >> on that point, is it completely out of the president's hands now, joan? is it in the hands of whether or not senate republicans back rubio and get that number above 70 or 75 and is someone like paul ryan and boehner say let's go to the floor on this and move on it. >> i think it's out of the president's hands. the problem isn't with democrats it's with republicans. if you are going to have toomey effect on immigration reform where people decide to say we don't want to help rubio for all sorts of reasons, we're hearing from our base that immigration is still scary.

and we also don't want to give this president and democratic party a victory going into 2014. that seems to be strong. i wish the chairman and his reasonableness would prevail but i'm not sure it will. >> what does he control in may of 2013? he's not a driving hand of immigration. where is it? >> i think we can't say he's going to wash his hands of any of it. we have a story in our paper today about him talking to liberals about this. he's going to be able to drive the message. he'll travel around the country and fact he's going to mexico obviously immigration. a lot he can still control by being the president and having the bully pulpit. that's what he'll continue to do. >> that whiner in chief performance earlier this week was beneath him. i blame the staff of putting him out there where his mind clearly was not in a frame. >> funny you brought that up. he went out there with no

introduction. no first few paragraphs just sort of stating why you're there. all right. let's roll. told me i had to be here. >> political operative deep within my soul said that's not a good idea to do that. trivia good idea. trivia time. which two presidents had children who published murder mysteries about washington, d.c.? the answering, franklin roosevelt and harry truman. congratulations to today's winner, andy. if you have a political trivia question for us, e-mail us. we'll be right back with the gaggle. don't go anywhere. the boys used double miles from their capital one venture card to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello.

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let's bring back our gaggle. michael steele, ann, and joan walsh. let's talk a little bit about the 2016 election, something that is very consequential. new polling out today shows hillary clinton, 65, joe biden, 13. question for you, joan. emily's list started at 9:30 today. this whole push to have a female president. i have to suspect that's not trying to recruit kirsten gillebrand. >> there's one person i think they have in mind. >> the glass ceiling has got a lot of knocks on it today. >> 18 million cracks and now a little bit more. i think it's going to be hard for her to resist this. she may well resist it. we always have to say that. the claim of history and the claim of women, it's just going to keep getting louder. then you see these numbers. poor joe biden would be a

runaway front runner. doesn't mean much at this point. she just knocks everybody, you know, back into the barnyard. >> ann, you've covered a lot of campaigns. barring something coming out of the past, the clintons are more embedded in the history of american politics. this field is clear. >> well, it is. having covered the hillary clinton campaign the last time around, i would remind everyone these were kind of her numbers then too. she was the runaway front runner and she had the democratic nomination locked up at this point in 2007. >> you think martin o'malley could put a roadblock in front of her? >> no. >> that was quick. >> no, what would the roadblock be? >> this utopia he's created. >> businesses leaving the state. i can't wait to have that conversation. can't wait to tell people exactly -- >> let's do some shameless plugs. >> my brother-in-law, mike tyson, has a great one-man show.

he was at the warner theater this past week. it was awesome. >> nerd prom got in the way. ann? >> my colleagues at the post have a great story today about a cc investigation into political intelligence firms. important story. check it out. >> shameless plug, very shameless. my book, "what's the matter with white people," is out in paperback. it's got an afterward about the 2012 election, which had a little bit to do with race. not a lot. >> just a tad. lastly, i won't talk white. i'll talk red. let's rock the red for the capitals in the playoff tonight. i'm a sabres guy, but go caps. that's it for this edition of the daily rundown. tomorrow, we'll have the breaking news on the april jobs numbers. coming up next, the one and only chris jansing and her company. you don't want to miss that on msnbc.

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new arrests tied to the boston marathon case are raising questions about immigration procedures. we already know next week both the house and senate will hold hearings to look at the intelligence side of the investigation, but now senator john mccain is suggesting more hearings might be necessary to look at immigration in the light of the boston case. >> maybe it's part of immigration overall -- overall immigration reform. we should look at the process at who's allowed into this country under what circumstances. what is their situation and background? particularly from countries that have histories such as chechnya and others where there's been significant influence of radical islamic extremism. >> so this morning three men are in federal custody. they are not accused of having anything to do with the actual bombing. two are accused of tampering with evidence. robel phillipos is a