boston. >> krystal is on assignment today. president obama is in mexico at this hour. he is preparing to talk about trade and the war on drugs. >> i might be surrounded by some massachusetts people but today i'm in a very empire state of mind. i'll tell you why. ♪ >> the three 19-year-old friends accused of interfering in the boston marathon investigation are in federal custody today. their next court hearing is later this month. the federal complaint details how they removed dzhokhar tsarnaev's backpack from his dorm room and then lied about it to police. now the fbi said tsarnaev bragged to two of them more than a month ago that he knew how to make a bomb. in addition to the backpack full

of fire work the cops found in a landfill, the friends took dzhokhar's laptop. we start with justice correspondent pete williams. pete, any word on where that laptop is now and exactly what investigators are looking for on it? >> well, yes. the fbi has it. the fbi says that the three were involved in a scheme to throw away the backpack that two of them were charged with doing. the two students from kazakhstan. but it was curiously silent on the question of whatever became of the laptop. it says that they took the laptop from the dorm room and they gave this odd explanation to investigators saying, they didn't want tsarnaev's roommate who was in the room at the time to be suspicious. so they took both the backpack and the laptop. the complain says theyon threw the backpack away. the laptop was never thrown away. and both their lawyer and the fbi say that they gave the laptop to the fbi. >> okay.

nbc' pete williams, thank you for that update. i want to welcome back former atf special agent in charge, james cavanagh and welcome rob mcfadden who helped run downer intelligence ops at ncis. james, let me start with you. do we know how the fbi knew of these three guys existence in the first place? how did they come upon these three guys? >> well, what happened, s.e., was at this watertown shoot-out, they picked up the telephone that was left. and also tamerlan or dzhokhar, i'm not sure, they picked up one of those phones and they found text messages. they went back to the roommate and interviewed the roommate and he told them the three friends had come over. and they had removed these items. they picked up the text messages. you look like the bomber. lol. go to my room, take anything you want. so that's how they got them.

they were arrest asked the roommate. >> let's talk about those text that's james just referenced, dzhokhar referencing his friends, you'd better not text me and come to my room and take whatever you want. as a person who has experience interviewing this sort of people, what do you take from the mindset of somebody making those sorts of texts. is he saying i'm pretty much dead here go for what you want or is he saying, please help me? >> taking it at face value from what we're reading about the texts, the context of the texts, it seems there was knowing part on dzhokhar's terms that something bad was about to happen. and so without actually revealing everything, trying to give some hints to the friends who might be able to do something about it without being obvious. >> there were a couple of pages there where we get a picture of part of this interrogation process against phillipos.

it is clear, talking about phillipos his story, concealing his original activities, saying he didn't remember and then ultimately, confessing in the words of the government. the fourth interview saying, that he had lied to the agents during the previous interviews, and that he had played this role as we've been reporting in obstructing justice in one of the most important criminal investigations in the country. from your experience, what do we know about how investigators yet through those four interviews over the span of a couple days from object fus indication and lying to this kind of lying. >> the fbi who goes in with a tremendous amount of information. which is one of the greatest tools an interrogator can have. going in with that, the sub is given a chance, a chance to talk. in this case, according to the criminal complaint, it is a violation of the u.s. code lying

to federal law enforcement officer in the course of the investigation. now what we don't know at this point, it's been talked about a lot. the public safety, the exception, whether that applies or not. it doesn't matter. in a case like, this cascading priorities is the number one rule, rule out the ticking time scenario to make sure there aren't other event in play. >> all of the thing we're learning about these roommates. that they happened about two hours before the m.i.t. officer was shot. how different would it have been if those roommates, instead of tossing the backpack and doing these other things, if they had gone to the authorities and said, we think we know who this is. >> exactly. if they had called 911, the task force, be on the lookout could have been put out for the green

honda. we might not have had the watertown shoot-out or the man carjacked in the suv. it is hard to tell how circumstances would have played. certainly it could have been better. and it should have been different. they shouldn't have reached for protecting mass killers and bombers. they should have reached for, no, this is wrong. we've got to go call the police and go talk to an adult professor or somebody who would give them solid advice rather than throwing their stuff away. the defense counsel that they were shocked. but shocked like in casablanca when you're full of gambling winnings going on. i'm shocked there is a bomb. you know there is a bomb. people were killed. it is a vicious crime. and you're 19 years old. you know better. so that's why they've been charged. and it is a serious charge. it carries a federal prison term. >> especially if it turns out that report that we're hearing that dzhokhar actually was

bragging to these guys about being able to build a bomb a month earlier. it would have seemed appropriate for them to maybe go to the authorities with that knowledge even before this. but let me go back to you. we're learning a little about the back ground of these three gentlemen. and i'm curious. what is protocol? would immigration status be a first question to these three as authorities came upon them and wanted to question them? >> well, it would be a factor in the game plan among the joint terrorism task force and those involved. but in this case, they're presumed resident legal aliens. in legal status is student visa. the most important driving factor is getting them in. getting them in for questioning. i'm sure, and it has been reported that the immigration status had been talked about and exactly what that was and how it might drive decisions. >> james, i feel like the fbi does a fairly good job of letting americans know, we are pretty strong, we are pretty

big, we are going to get our men and women that we are chasing almost all the time. are you surprised that these young men didn't think, maybe we should help the fbi and not help this guy who is probe going to get caught. >> yes. 19-year-olds sometimes make bad choices. i think that they ran into the resilience of the people of boston, number one. that's really been one of the biggest factor here, how strong they are. across the board, the police, the citizens just really helping the investigation. that broad public support, you're going to be able to capture people. so yeah, they made a bad choice. it is surprising. they did it, given the nature of the crescendo and the events that occurred during that week. that they couldn't see the right path. but those things happen. >> all very chilling. james cavanagh, robert mcfadden, thank you for joining us. straight ahead in the cycle, homeland insecurity. "time" magazine's michael crowley on this week's cover

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the boston marathon bombings are reigniting a decade old debate. are americans willing to compromise some of their civil liberties if that means preventing future attacks. a new poll shows 61% of americans say big aer concern is that the government will enact policy that's restrict civil liberties. a fear say their fear is that

the government will fail to enact policy. our guest co-wrote this week's cover story. homeland insecurity. do we need to sacrifice privacy to be safer? >> how are you doing? >> doing great. i want to start with a story you have in that article. the 2010 bombing plot in oregon that was actually scuttled when the father of the teenage suspect tipped off authorities on his own family. how much do you see that happen in these investigations or this type of outreach to the other articles subject to the outreach community? >> reporter: right. i think this has happened a few times. i couldn't put a number on it for you. the point is that i think the obama administration in particular thinks this is essential. this is possibly the best way you're going to break up plots where you have people who are self-radicalized. they could be in the muslim community or they could be, they

could come from any community. any sort of ideology or religion or doctrine. we have seen several in the muslim communicate in the last few years. what they want is a cooperative relationship where people are comfortable coming forward. they know people they can to go in law enforcement. there are community leaders who will say this guy, i think as was the case in oregon. this guy is talking a lot about jihad. he is talking about killing people. he is talking about the wars in afghanistan and iraq. and i'm really concern about him. and then that will give law enforcement grounds to start surveilling the guy. the other alternative is to go under cover, to wiretap people. to have inform dlanlts in the mosques, that's much more controversial. we can talk about that if you want. >> we can get into that. but wiretaps and cops and cameras, we can have all of that. in the end ultimately isn't the best way to dewith this wholistically, to have moderate muslims turning on their radical

islamist extremist neighbors and counterparts and saying, enough of this. you don't represent islam. when they hear this kind of chatter. we know that tamerlan tsarnaev was attending a mosque. he got thrown out for saying some fairly radical things. is not it going on again on moderate islam to rid the whole of islam of extremism. >> within these communities, law enforcement, president obama, if some good come out of this it could be some heightened awareness. the cliche, if you see something, say something. maybe if you hear something, say something. the mosque that tamerlan went to in cambridge, there were two incidents where he stood up and challenged the imam and said, you're soft. you're not conservative enough for me. law enforcement officials who

have studied radicalization say that is a classic pattern of a guy who could be becoming radical. he doesn't accept his mosque. he doesn't accept his imam anymore because it is too soft. what the mosque says is he never threatened violence. they talked him down both times. he sort of seemed to be okay so they didn't report it. they said had he ever talked about acts of violence, they would have reported that to the fbi. the question is maybe is the threshold a little bit lower? >> welcome back to the show. good to sigh again. >> the internet provides all the information and inspiration a man could need to figure out how to become a terrorist. how to be radicalized. is that part of why we're going to be in this perpetual state of defense against terrorism? because we could never stop that. >> yeah, you know, you're absolutely right. unfortunately. i think of it in some ways as the dilemma we faced with these

mass shootings. we can argue about whether new gun restrictions would dramatically reduce the number of mass shootings we have like the one in newtown, connecticut. i think we can agree, you're never going to be able to stop it entirely. unfortunately, if you have someone who is motivated enough and who is sick enough in the mind, it is not that hard to acquire explosives and kill people at a big public event. our polling shows that americans understand this. and i think hypothetically, you could have the kind of society where everyone getting on an airplane is strip searched. if you want to stand near the boston marathon finish line, you go through metal detectors and you're patted down. we're not going to reach that point. even if we did, i don't think we would have totally zero risk. but i think the americans say, we understand it. >> we're not even talking about that far. people who are on the no fly list can buy guns. what sense does that even make? >> right.

well, probably not a lot of sense. that open the whole can of worms with the gun debate which is a different can of worms entirely. but i think that the bottom line here to your first question is that americans seem to understand, we're not going to be abe to stamp this out entirely. if you talk to law enforcement and counter terrorism professionals, michael heyden quoted in our story. a guy who presided over some provisions that people would say were very conservative during the bush years. he says this is inevitable. you're not going to be able to stop everything. you have to find the right balance. where you have policy that's are actually bringing down the rick without an intrusion on freedom and civil liberties that just isn't worth that lower risk. somewhere there is a marginal difference where the tradeoff is not worth it anymore. i think a lot of people feel like we're pretty close to that point. >> you were talking about one of your poll. one of the poll results show 63% fear terrorists will always find a way to launch a major attack

on the united states no matter what the government does. that leads me to the question of, is this the new normal? this 11 of insecurity that we all feel. is this just something we'll to have get used to? >> i think it probably is. in a funny way, i think the decade or so after 9/11 before this happen, and there were a couple of notable exceptions to it. it is not like we had total tranquility. by and large there was a sense that this new normal hadn't arrived. i think that was surprising. and i think we were fortunate. in other words, i think it is surprising this new normal didn't arrive sooner than it did. and i had that we're likely to see more of it. but you know, it also, we are getting more mature about this as a society. there are other societies in israel, for instance, where life goes on. it is terrible but life goes on. we accept other kinds of risks in violence. thousands of americans die on the highways every year. and we accept high speed limits

on the highways. we can save a lot of lives if we lower them. we make the tradeoffs all the time in american society. unfortunately maybe reaching the point where we'll to have find an equilibrium. this wi the traffic point is an interesting one. since the 1950s before raf nader got involved, we've done lots of things. we have decreased traffic fatalities by 50%, mandating seatbelts and all sorts of things. as you pointed out before. yes, we are in a situation where we have to accept these things. but you pointed out. terrorism attacks are declining over the past 20 years. it is not going up. the conventional wisdom is that this is a greater threat as we go on. we have to be in a position of resilience. we can't guard against every tiny cell, home grown that wants to do something like this. but we have less terrorism attacks. >> less since 9/11 than before. that was an interesting part in

the poll that people are not rushing to react to this. michael crowley, thank you for being here. >> coming up, nbc sports vet bob new myer. president obama is touching down in mexico as we speak. there's plenty of baggage. what are we going to do? unpack some of it. we've all had those moments.

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president obama just land in the mexico to meet with the newly elected president, enrique

pena nieto. it is a busy schedule. and kristen, you're traveling with the president in mexico. what's the first thing on their agenda? >> reporter: in addition to everything you talked about, immigration will also be a big topic of conversation with washington, hoping to take on landmark immigration reform. the united states is going to need mexico in a partner for that. the president will likely discuss border security as well as the guest worker program. but behind the scenes, there's a little uncertainty about this moving forward. in part because enrique is a new president. he is doing things a little differently than his predecessor. in large part in material of dealing with the drug war. he has really limited intelligence sharing between the united states and mexico. that has given some in the united states a little bit of pause about what that might mean for this critical relationship moving forward. i've been speaking to analysts who say what president obama

really needs to accomplish on this trip is to really create a broad platform in material of what they discuss. that includes the economy, the mexican economy is on the rise. the middle class is in fact, their economy increased by 3 point 9% in 2012. mexico is also a big trading partner with the united states. so that will also be a big topic on the agenda here. energy and education also on the agenda. so that is really what president obama needs to do to strike the right tone with this. you can probably hear some screaming. that's not for the president. that is for an up and coming star. his name is austin mahone. it is hard to hear me with all the shouting. i jut met him. he is 17 years old. this is his first tour. >> don't be so humble. they love you down there.

>> they've got signs, kristen. >> let's take it to the table. kristen just talked about a whole plate full of things to talk about. meanwhile, everyone else is talking about korea, north korea, years. i can't but mexico is in our backyard. what she was talking about limited intelligence sharing is something we should all be concerned about. >> absolutely. when she talk about the economy rising in mexico, that's a very positive sign. they'll talk about economic partner shims between mexico and the united states. that is very important for america. if you're concerned about the immigration issue which is a huge impact on every class in america. if the mexican economy ill proves, fewer people will want to come from mexico to america themselves come here, not to take advantage of our services. they come to work them don't get work in mexico themselves don't get work that pays enough to take care of their families.

they don't want to leave their home them want to work. they leave, come here for few years, send money back home and then want to go back home. so as much as the mexican economy continues to improve, our immigration situation will continue to improve. mexican migration has dropped to its lowest level in four decades. that is absolutely connected to the mexican economy improving. >> it is our third largest trading partner. we have a lot of work to do with mexico. i think in the back drop, we still have a failed drug war here. when you look at our federal prisons alone. 48% of our federal prisoners in this country are incarcerated for only drug crime. nonviolent. only 8% are incarcerated for violent crime. there was a study out from the university of michigan last year that showed that african-americans are twice as likely to receive mandatory minimums which are often determined by what the prosecutors choose to charge,

and for the same crimes they get 1.5 times as much prison sentencing. so we've got a problem here that is wrong for the justice that we want to see in our own country. but also has this huge undertow on a very important trading partner, as you were pointing out. a very important border security ally. there are real problems in mexico, too. violence, 70,000 people were killed. they have their own contributions. it is our demand and our zero tolerance, warehousing incarceration that has got to change. >> and drug surveys show white americans ask black american use and sell drugs at similar rates. >> i think you're all right. the problem will be that obama and pena nieto are in a tough

spot. to give you a little background or give our viewers a back ground to put in it context. pena nieto's partner ran mexico for 71 uninterrupted years during which they got a reputation for corruption and back door deals. this was resoundingly kick out in 2000 when the pan party took over for 12 years. opportunity pan party rule you had a huge economic decline, a rise in homelessness and a rise in the drug cartel crime and violence and border security issues are out of hand. pena nieto came about as the flew face of the old guard. he is pri but he is out there to change it. and to lose that reputation of corruption and back door deals. he promised when he was campaigning, no pacts with criminals. he will not work with the cartels to try and get stability in the region. now, the cartels have devolved into such a revertible chaos. there is infighting,

instability, many fear, especially in the u.s., that he is going to have to revert back to those tactics of corruption and back door deals. prop up one of the cartels so that some of the others are diminished. create this stable environment again just to restore some peace. if mexico decides to work with the drug cartels, that puts us, the united states and president obama mark the very tough spot. that, okay, are we going to now work the drug cartels? i don't think so. so there is a tenuous relationship between the u.s. and mexico right now. and it remains to be seen what pena nieto does about the cartels. that will dictate how we respond. >> wow! i felt like i just went to school. thank you very much, professor s.e. cupp. well, it is important to sort of -- >> very important. >> to have that history there.

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bright and awesome as it usually is? >> reporter: i hope so. i hope it is. we run that fine line of people enjoying sports events like the kentucky derby or the kentucky oath that we're having tomorrow. they really enjoy the festivities of louisville and churchill downs. there will be 150,000 people tomorrow for the oaks and many for the derby on saturday. so again, i think when people pass through gates, there will be these wand scans. there will be things taken away. some umbrellas and cameras and big purses, big backpacks might be confiscated and i know that everybody that come to the downs, churchill downs in louisville will have to get here as early as possible. this is one of the great sports events in the world. >> we love to in the wake of

these or tragedies, we have this attitude. i'm not going to be afraid. i'm going right back in it. weigh in on this. i find that to be even more acute when it comes to sporting events and sports fans. >> reporter: yeah. only because of the number of people there are involved. when you're talking about the oaks and the derby, you're talking about 150,000 people in one facility. tip today nfl game will have between 60,000 and 80,000 fans on hand. an nhl game, between 15 and 20,000 fans on hand. so again, i agree. the sports is fun. people should enjoy it. but i think that now, you know, unfortunately we have to keep our eyes open. and the credo here and in other arenas, if you're a fan and you see something, you say something. that would be to a policeman or an usher or a security guy or anybody that you sense might be doing something that's a little

suspicious. maybe you should have it in the back of your head. the overriding factor, hey, enjoy the game, enjoy the kentucky derby, enjoy the kentucky oaks. live your life will that's what we should be doing! >> amen! we try to live our lives every day on "the cycle." >> i want to ask but the king dome. i grew up in seattle. my friends and i would go down to the parking lot area, get autographs, then watch the batting practice, then the game, then after the game out. in fenway, you have tailgating. these rich traditions that go to the collective space before and after the game. is any of that going to change as people think about these gathering in a different way? >> reporter: i don't know about the tailgating aspect. i think that more over it is a case of, let's say churchill downs, for example, i know that there are a number of agencies here that are well prepared for anything that could or might happen this weekend. in terms of the parking lots and

the tailgating, i think obviously they have an eye on that as well. but again, they're thinking about perhaps more importantly, what is going on inside an arena inside a basketball place or a football stadium or whatever. rather than the particulars about tailgating. that should go on and will go on. the inside part they're more focused on. >> bob, 150,000 people at churchill downs. 60,000 people up at football game. 15,000 to 20,000 at nba, at basketball games. how do you guard against something like that when you've got people streaming in and out of arenas? it makes me wonder if all the things being done there at churchill downs you talked about, are though mostly cosmetic when you have that many people around? >> well, again, it is up to the individual arenas in hockey and basketball. and working with, you know, i guess directives from fbi and

homeland security, et cetera, to try and do their best and get more policemen. i'm told there will be 1,200 police officers on has not in live, kentucky, for the oaks and the derby. that's probably more than have been in the past. so there is an example of how they are beefing up security for this particular event this weekend. there is no doubt that our lives have changed. wee continue. but i think it is incumbent upon churchill downs, the nba, nfl, may know league baseball, to take the appropriate steps without scaring people. without making them say, i don't want to go to a ball game because i'm afraid of what will happen. we have to avoid that as best we can. >> we have to live our lives of before you go, i have to ask you two quick questions. you're at the derby. who do you think will win? and you're a boston guy. do you think the celtics will catch the knicks? >> well, i didn't give the

celtics any chance last night. i love being a boston guy. they were putting some pressure on the new yorkers. because they were very cocky going into last night -- >> we're always cocky. they're thinking about what could happen because i've been a part, being a red sox fan of coming back from a 3-0 deficit. >> always with the we came back. >> believe me, that is ringing in our head like they did in 2004 against the yankees and they can do it again against new york knicker bockers this year. >> who will win the derby, bob? >> reporter: well, i'm down to three horses. i'm going to decide tonight. throw a dart. they are my top three going into saturday's race. >> i like frak daddy. >> bob neumeier, always happy to

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partnering to do everything in our power to help the veteran and military families to find the jobs they need and deserve. these efforts are about so much more than a paycheck. this is about giving these men and women a source of identity and purpose. i am thrilled to announce that in less than two years, america's businesses have hired or trained 290,000 veterans and military spouses. >> first lady this week nousing significant progress on one of her signature projects, helping military veterans and their spouses get training and joks. we want to introduce you to two women taking that jobs into their own hands. creating jobs for their fellow military spouses. their company, r. riveter after the famous world war ii rosies. to make and sell handbags. they are hand made from upcycled

military materials. think canvas tents, leather parts of uniform and they're named after famous military spouses. riveters make the bags and they sell them as independent sales reps. the key to this operation, riveters and rosies can take from their work from post to post as they move with the military. lisa and cameron join us at the table. we've kicked the other two out so that we can have you here. let me set the scene here, lisa. i'm up at cornell university, my alma mater visiting with my cousin matt. i notice molly's bag. and i ask her, where did you get this fabulous bag. and she told me your story because you were also there and your husband is a grad student at cornell as well. long story short, i loved your story and decided we had to get you on. i want to hear more about it. how did you come up with this idea? >> well, cameron and i were in the same position as so many

other military spouses find themselves in. that's the inability to find employment every time we move with the military. and military spouses move on average every two and a half years. that's ten time more frequent than our civilian counterparts. so we find that our military spouse friends are giving up on their career goal and aspirations and we didn't want to accept that circumstance. we wanted to take something that's hard in this military lifestyle and make it a positive. we started out small. we started out in her attic. and just grew from there. >> it is amazing. this is a small business story. a veterans story. also a family story. because we know the toll that these campaigns take. not only on our soldiers and veterans but on their families. when you're doing this, how does this work, this bag? what is it made out of? >> all of our bag are made from recycled military materials. whether it is blankets or tents or old uniforms. and the wonderful thing about that is it brings a sort of history and character to each

product. each bag. so everybody that buys from our riveter gets something so unique and full of pride and emotion and it is something that you can really be proud of. >> and start to finish, how long does it take these bags. start to finish, how long does it take to make a bag? tell us about the process. >> of course. everything is hand dyed. this tent was hand dyed by a military spouse as well as all the leather. we use a very high-quality leather, and i would say the process would be -- we do it in small batches so a couple of days per small batch. so it's a very artisianal product. >> is this an avon model, you have the bags made, and women sell them wherever they are? >> correct. our spouses, we don't have that many like avon, we wnted it to be a little more special.

we have rosies, independent sales kroters throughout the united states and take it with them. the idea behind our company is mobile employment. >> that's great. >> we've seen the unemployment rate is higher for returning veterans but also for military spouses for the reasons you were mentioning, lisa. i think 26% by some estimates. how does this business model sort of jump over the hurdles that those people would usually face? >> well, the -- cameron, you can probably answer that one better. >> you can take it with you whenever you go. whether or not you want to be an account rep for us or want to be a small-time rosie and want to do it part time, we're just really trying to provide multiple facets of employment and -- >> those people, if they move to a different base, they don't have to reapply, they keep that job and that role? >> uh-huh. >> that's great. and what kind of success yhave you seen? i think it's your anniversary, is that -- >> correct. >> how's business been? >> the response has been phenomenal.

i think everyone can connect with our riveter, on some facet, whether materials we use in the handbags or helping military spouses. we're trying to redefine what it means to be american handmade. >> if someone is the home is watching can they buy the bags not only to support the troops but because they think they're good looking bags? is that a good reason to buy? >> it's an ornate reason to buy. >> you didn't know when you saw it. >> i had no idea. we were having dinner. i saw this bag on her. i thought, wow that is good looking. and was shocked to hear the whole story about it and just -- i said, you got to be kidding me. this is right in my wheelhouse, up my alley. let's get these girls on. absolutely love what you do. we love the bags. go to ourriveter.com. contribute to a good cause. get a great looking handbag. support military spouses and military wives. and lisa, cameron, thanks so much for being here. >> thank you so much for having us. this is an amazing opportunity for us. >> oh, it's our pleasure. still ahead, new york

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new york governor andrew cuomo batted down rumors this week he wouldn't run for president if hillary clinton entsers the race. cuomo said he's not even thinking about it but if he did run he wouldn't bow out for hillary clinton. i have to tell cuomo, clinton is not his biggest problem in a democratic primary. andrew, it's not her. it's you. cuomo has a record of touting a

few high-profile liberal stances like marriage equality, and then undermining democrats and progress ives on core principle like economic equality. as a public service, today, i'm offering you five of the big reasons cuomo is unlikely to win a democratic primary. number five, labor. while democrats have been rallying to defend unions against republican attacks in states like wisconsin, cuomo has been busy cutting union pensions. "brooklyn rail" newspaper asked if cuomo was new york's scott walker. the battle turned to personal, cuomo tried to prevent four labor leaders from getting delegate seats at the dnc. according to politico government aides have denied that story. number four. cuomo has been battling public school teachers in new york over a evaluation system and tried to withhold $260 million in school aid over the issue. that maneuver recently drew a rebuke from a judge. then there are taxes. cuomo cut taxes on, yes, some of

the wealthiest people here in new york, and that's a pretty odd priority for a governor who claims to be concerned about revenues and deficits. had cuomo simply let new york's millionaires tax continue, for example, it would have generated another $21 billion every decade. now, reason number two is these two guys. cuomo's received more money from the koch brothers than any other democrat including $87,000 in 2010, alone. but look. when you have cuomo's stances on labor and teachers and taxes for the 1%, it's no wonder you get love from some of obama's most powerful opponents among the 1%. and finally, the big one. the number one reason andrew co cuomo will struggle in a democratic primary is, democrats. after cuomo's party won enough seats to take over the legislature, he engineered a deal with independents and republicans to prevent the democrats from taking control. the arrangement takes influence

away from grassroots democrats and gives more power to cuomo. now, that's not automatically bad for public policy. sure. but engineering backroom deals to undermine elected democrats is a pretty hard sell in a democratic primary. just ask joe lieberman. that's just a short list of highlights. this week "harper collins" announced it will publish a new book from our friend, andrew cuomo, in 2014, which has nothing to do with running for president. no. look, i'm glad andrew cuomo is writing a memoir. and to quote desi ararnaz in "i love lucy" he has a lot of splaining to do. good afternoon. it's thursday may the 2nd. an nra convention kicks off. a canadian ponders the most powerful job in the world. and three friends sit in jail and think about some terrible choices. a busy day, indeed.

>> three friends of dzhokhar tsarnaev behind bars. >> court documents say the men intended to slow down a major terrorist investigation. >> they need to make examples out of these guys. >> i'm not sure a 19-year-old college student understands the gravity of a situation like this. >> you were involved in terrorism? you, too, are a terrorist. >> bin laden is dead, but radical islam is on the rise. we need to up our game. >> funding radical islam, funding al qaeda and letting them attack. >> let's send a message to the obamas, the bloombergs, the second amendment will always be the people's first freedom. >> i'm just wondering why the burden of my mother, who was gunned down in the halls of her elementary school, isn't as important. >> i'm obviously so sorry. i took heats from even members of my own party. >> now we all look like a bunch of squishes.