criminals and dangerous people, that can save lives here in mexico and back home in the united states. it's the right thing to do. this is the nra kicks off its annual convention in texas with a pledge to keep fighting background checks. >> one. things we don't do is we don't mistake battles for wars. it was a victory in a battle. but the war continues. this is in essence, a family gathering for believers in the second amendment. >> and vice president joe biden joining secretary of state john kerry at the state department to pay tribute to diplomats killed in the line of duty. >> i wish we didn't need a wall like this. i wish i could tell all of you and all of you brilliant young state department personnel up there, i wish i could tell you we're not going to add any more names. kay christopher stevens.

shawn patrick smith. ty woods. joe fandino. francis j. savage. >> good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. dzhokhar tsarnaev is talking. what he is saying is pretty chilling. nbc's justice correspondent pete williams joins me now from the news room. first of all, let's talk about what you've learned last night and today about what federal officials say he is saying about the origins of this terror plot. >> well these are all statements, andrea, that he made after he was arrested. those two days during which they questioned him under the so-called public safety exception of miranda. we continue to learn little bits about what he said during those questioning sessions. which were admittedly kind of strange. because he wasn't talking very well. a lot of this was writing notes. they claim that just further

proof of how ill thought through this was, they initially had discussed perhaps a plot to set off their bombs on the fourth of july in the boston area, then they found that the explosive that they were building were completed quicker than they thought. so they decided to move it up to patriots' day, april 15th, the day of the boston marathon. as it's been explained to us, they were thinking more about patriots day than the marathon. they were driving around town trying to decide, didn't really realize that the marathon was going on until they saw the preparations. decided they would do it there. and were also told that when they actually were on the sidewalk walking around and set one of the bombs where it ended up, the first one, they didn't realize that that was the finish line until after the explosion. so and then you know, of course they weren't thinking at all through about the exit. about how to get away. the second thing is, they say, tsarnaev has said that the bombs were built in the apartment of his brother, tamerlan. we had gotten an inkling of that

a week ago when authorities disclosed that explosive residue had been found in the apartment. so that, he says, is where they were constructed, andrea. >> governor deval patrick was talking about the plans and about july 4th and how they would approach independence day. >> ongoing investigation, i've been fully briefed. you know, the fourth of july on the esplanade is a joyful and beautiful holiday. they do a review of security and take into account lessons learned and i can tell you they'll be stepping it up this year. >> pete you're reporting today that homeland security is revising the way they handle student visas or people coming across, coming in with student visas. as a result i guess in part because of some of the friends of dzhokhar's who now -- >> right. >> were found to not exactly have all their visas in place? >> that's right. and if you remember, andrea, this whole student visa thing

has been undergoing constant revision since 9/11 when it was discovered that some of the hijackers who came here to attend flight school or dropped out or never even showed up. the government began to get better tracking of students, when they come here on a student visa, are they in school? are they staying in school to maintain the validity of their visas? now they're trying to make that information almost real-time to the border patrol officers. because one of the friends of dzhokhar, when he came back into the country in the interim, while he had been gone, he had stopped attending classes, his visa was no longer valid. but he was admitted nonetheless and that's what they're trying now to tighten up even further, andrea. >> pete williams, thanks very much. president obama today about to leave mexico for costa rica. the second leg of his latin american trip. he promised a university audience in mexico city, he's going to fight for immigration reform. >> we also know that as nation of immigrants, the immigration system we have in the united

states right now doesn't reflect our values. that's one of the reasons i acted to lift the shadow of deportation from what we call the dreamers. young people brought to the united states as children. and that's why i'm working with our congress it pass common-sense immigration reform this year. and i am optimistic that after years of trying, we are going to get it done this year. i'm absolutely convinced of it. >> joining me for our daily fix, jose diaz balard of telemundo and latin council on foreign relations. >> how did the trip go so far? this is the big trip, you've got a new mexican president, a lot of issues, immigration, guns. and the economic ties between our two countries. >> good afternoon, andrea, the trip went extremely well this is the fourth visit by president obama, the fourth time since his re-election. the first time here in mexico he

meets with the current president, enrique p he enieneto. there's been some interesting friction, recently. the new government of mexico has decided to change some of the parameters and the ways that for example, american d.e.a. and c.i.a. communicate with their counterparts here in mexico. they're changing the way they communicate. they're streamlining it according to the mexican government. some in washington are concerned that maybe they're closing some of the doors available for communication between agencies on both sides of the border. yesterday the president met with president pena nieto. in a joint press conference they were clear both sides are on the same page as far as the fight against narco terrorism and also immigration. this san important issue for the united states, as we know, and also for mexico. >> and jose, i know that you're going to be, we're watching live

pictures of the president about to leave mexico city for costa rica. jose you're going to be interviewing the president in costa rica, and we're going to see that on telemundo on monday, i believe. i wanted to play a little bit of what the president is saying to the students about guns, this has been a constant irritant for the mexicans about the guns coming across the border. let's watch. >> we also recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in mexico come from the united states. in america, our constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms, as president, i swore an oath to uphold that right and i always will. but at the same time, as i've said in the united states, i will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. >> shannon o'neill, the president can say that in mexico city, but so far, he has, as we know, not been able to even get the background checks bill through.

and while there's an effort now by joe manchin, pat toomey to bring it back and try to change it enough so that people can change their votes credibly, it's a real longshot. >> well it's interesting, two issues that came up as you mentioned. one are gun control and one are immigration. and while both of those are incredibly important for mexico and the population there, and the security efforts, they're both domestic issues and the mexican government response from the mexican president, was to say we wish the president well in these efforts that he has, but we're not going to enter into these debates. we do understand the domestic politics in the united states around these issues, gun control and immigration are incredibly important and very complicated. >> i want to ask you and jose also about the bigger picture. from the mexican standpoint from the standpoint of latin america, which has really been ignored by the administration as we've fought two wars and dealt with the european fiscal crisis. mexico has been stronger economically and at the same time we haven't really paid

enough attention to what's happening south of our border. shannon? >> well one of the reasons the president went now, and the really big focus we saw was on the economic issues. and it's because the united states and mexico, they recognize how important the ties are between the two nations. we see half a trillion dollars worth of goods going back and forth. making each one of the most important trading partners, but more important than that is what is going back and forth across the u.s./mexico border. this has changed over the last 15 or 20 years. today it's not finished goods, it's pieces and parts. so what that means is that u.s. companies, but as important, u.s. workers depend on what's happening down in nextco. that was really the big part of the conversation, how do you deepen those commercial ties. >> jose, from your perspective, what do you think the mexican leadership, the new mexicans want to hear. >> this is not the first administration that kind of -- yeah, i was going to tell you, this is not the first administration that could ignore latin america.

it's pretty much part and parcel of american history that latin america is ignored until something bad happens and they have to deal with it. the fact is and shannon was talking about this, there are parts of mexico that that are booming economically. leon, merchandising and auto industry and the border areas you have car companies and the united states that has, that have in mexico, the issue of immigration is important and the issue of the economy is important and the issue of drugs is important. the president today in his speech to young people talked about how he's aware that the united states also has a responsibility with the blood that has been shed and is continued to be shed here in mexico. because american consumers want illegal drugs. it's no coincidence that the drug cartels are based in the northern parts of the mexico. because they want to be as close to their clients as possible. every line of cocaine that is snorted up somebody's nose in

the united states is dripped in the blood of innocent people here in mexico and in other latin american countries. because of that demand. and it was very important that the president mention that today. because it all goes hand in hand. the economy, immigration, and drugs and arms. 80% plus of the weapons that are caught in this country come from the united states and they're used in horrendous acts of violence. so the relationship between the united states and mexico? yeah, it's economic and it has a lot to do with immigration. but there's also responsibilities that need to be outlined and need to be dealt with. >> thank you for that. jose diaz-balart and shannon o'malley from new york. southern california, what a disaster, fire crews fighting wildfires covering 15 miles of land. winds are a major problem for firefighters trying to protect homes in the ventura county and

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and the chances for this getting through are still iffy. because there's so many people taking shots at it. marco rubio is now worrying about his right flank coming after him because he's been a leader of this bipartisan group of eight. what can the business community do to reassure people, especially republicans, who are having trouble coming around on this. >> i'm optimistic. the best environment for passing immigration reform we've had in a decade. the people in the business community have been talking about the need for this for many years, but it hasn't gotten done because people are trying to deal with it on a piecemeal basis, dealing with h1b for example. the opportunity is to deal with it in a more comprehensive kind of way and the business community needs to do its part. the tech community has started to make its message clear. not only do they want high school immigration, they support a more comprehensive package a march for immigration. a march on washington, virtual march. a meeting at the white house,

ceo, coca-cola was there, the ceo of marriott was there, other industries that care about immigration reform and that business community needs to join with the faith community. to make sure this gets pushed over the finish line. >> and at the same time, the business community can be divided, small business and big business can be on separate tracks. the agricultural industries also concerned about their sector. it always seems as though it gets to a point and then politics intervene. election politics, 2014 politics. >> and maybe last year's politics do as well. i think part of the reason there is a moment, there is an opportunity here, people recognize that the demographics are shifting and we just need to deal with this if we're going to remain the most entrepreneurial nation. the way i phrase it is immigration is not just a problem we need to solve. it's an opportunity we need to seize if we're going to remain entrepreneurial. many of our great companies were started by immigrants. 40% of our fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants.

half of silicon valley technology companies are started by immigrants. global battle for talent. many countries are making it easier for people, canada announced the start of a visa program, come to canada, we'll make it easy for you to start companies there. so it's important that we focus on this with urgency. recognize for the reason you mentioned, in the tech sector or the entrepreneurial sector, you can't just focus narrowly on a s.t.e.m. visa or a start-up visa, it needs to be part of a comprehensive package so that everybody sees the benefit of supporting this in a bipartisan way. my hope is it will pass the senate in june or july, hopefully by 70 votes which would send a strong signal to the house and it hopefully can get done and signed by the president by the end of the summer and we would get our immigration policy into a framework that makes sense for all businesses and also for the nation at large. >> and even if it does pass, this plan as envisioned, has certain barriers, you know, border security has to be done first. a lot of things have to happen,

it's going to be phased in. this is not going to be an immediate fix. and meanwhile our economy gasping for air. let's talk about the jobs numbers today. inching down to 7.5%. unemployment rather the unemployment number, the number of jobs added, 165,000, which is a little bit healthier still, not keeping pace with population growth. what is your take as an experienced businessman on these numbers, the participation rate, a little bit better? >> it's progress, but there's still work to be done. i think the unemployment rate should be closer to 4%, it's coming down, but there's still a lot of work to be done. that's part of the reason to focus on immigration, focus on start-ups. the last three decades, 40 million jobs have been created by young, high-growth companies, that accounts for all the net job creation, that's why we need to make sure it's easy wlxt it be access to capital. the jump-starting our business start-ups, helped access to capital to get companies started. now we need to focus on the talent side with immigration. we need to focus on the growth rate. oert problem is not to see

unemployment, which is high, but our grow rate is too low, about 2%. the last half century it's been more like 3.5%. how do we get unemployment down to 4%. our economic growth rate up to 4%. that would be a much different circumstance in terms of dealing with some of the other difficult issues, the deficit and other things, fundamentally different dynamic if we could get the unemployment down and the growth up, the place to focus is entrepreneurs and part of it is talent. which is why immigration is important. and some aspects will phase in. particularly the path to earned citizenship. other aspects like the changes around high-skilled immigration. could happen more immediately. so the job creation around the start-up side of things, which is so critically important can happen quickly. the congress needs to pass it. i do think there's momentum building, bipartisan momentum. one initiative is called bibles, badges and business it shows there are a lot of coalitions coming together to provide the support, provide the moment umt to once and for all get this thing done. >> steve case, from revolution and thank you very much. >> thank you, and youia.

and up next, the red line on sirria richard e, syria, richar engel's exclusive interview with the leader of the rebel forces. [ engine sputters ]

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what are the administration's red lines in syria? nato secretary-generals opposes military action in syria, even as president obama is grappling with what to do about assad's suspected use of chemical weapons. rasmussen was in town to meet with the president and the secretary of state and i sat down with him yesterday. >> welcome, secretary-general rasmussen. top of mind here in the united states has been the war in syria. this is an issue that nato is not engaged in. but as someone so concerned with the security of the whole world and the region have to also be involved with. what can the united states do, with this big decision as to whether to arm the rebels and whether that risks having these weapons get into the wrong hands with al qaeda elements already

involved in syria? >> yeah. first of all, let me stress as you mentioned, nato as such is not engaged in the syria conflict. but our core task is to defend and protect the allies. this is the reason why we have deployed patriot missiles to insure effective defense and protection of the turkish population. so in that respect of course we follow the situation closely. as regards arming rebels, nato has not declared or adopted any arms embargo, it's for nations to decide. and i think the dilemma and risk that arming rebels could lead to proliferation, dangerous proliferation of weapons in the region. >> the u.s. is also being pressed, the president is being pressed by members of congress,

to do a no-fly zone. to protect perhaps a small area, a 50-mile area from the turkish border with the missiles that nato has helped provide. that would at least protect people in the aleppo area. would a no-fly zone be at least one step that you think the united states and some of its allies, without nato's involvement could do? >> in my opinion, it would take a united nations security council resolution to enforce a no-fly zone. because a no-fly zone would interfere with sovereignty, independence, of an individual nation. so in my opinion, it would take a u.n. security council resolution to do that. >> and you cannot get a u.n. security council resolution without the agreement of russia, russia has vetoed everything that has been proposed. so now we have more than 70,000

people dead in syria. and secretary kerry is going to moscow next week to have further conversations about this. as long as russia and iran are supporting bashar al assad, does that mean that he's going to stay in power, that this will be stalemated, do you think? >> personally, i think it's only a question of time. before the regime collapses. no regime can in the long run ignore the will of the people. but honestly speaking, i share your frustration, it's humanitarian disaster. more than 70,000 people killed. more than one million refugees. the risk of spillover in the region, the risk of use of chemical weapons and chemical weapons might fall the wrong hands as well. so a lot of concerns. and the bottom line is i think the only way forward is the

political solution. and this is why i highly appreciate that secretary kerry will travel to moscow and speak with his counterparts. because we need to engage russia positively. >> finally, afghanistan, as the united states withdraws and other nations, nato nations withdraw, what is the future of afghanistan with the political transition coming ahead, and this military transition in 2014? >> i'm actually quite optimistic about the future of afghanistan. securitiwise, we have achieved progress. we have built very strong afghan security forces. they will take full responsibility for the security by the end of 2014. we will end our combat mission and when you look upon the broader development of afghanistan, you see progress. they have an economic growth of 7% to 8% annually. that's quite good. we have constructed thousand and thousands of kilometers of road. they have better access to

electricity. we have improved the education system. women can also get an education. health has improved. life expectancy has risen, in particularly for women, child mortality gone done. there are a lot of good news, but still challenges ahead. >> well, thank you very much, thanks for all that you do. the nato secretary-general rasmussen, thanks for being with us today. >> you're welcome. and in an exclusive interview today, with richard engel, the rebel military leader, that the white house is counting on to defeat both the assad regime and prevail over more radical rebel groups, says the evidence is clear that assad's forces did use chemical weapons. >> the regime in syria used chemical weapons more than four times against the civilians. >> president obama has talked about red lines. >> yes. >> do you think bashar al assad has crossed a red line? >> not just for one time. many, many times he crossed the red line. >> what do you hope the united states does?

>> i like them to help us to have no-fly zone for the whole country. >> nbc news chief foreign correspondent, richard engel joins me from turkey. richard, interesting interview. i've seen reporting on both sides that there wasn't proper custody control over some of the evidence as it was brought across the borders. that some samples were left in someone's car trunk for a number of days. are you persuaded about the evidence? or is it too early to tell what the allied intelligence services really believe is the case? >> i think it's very early to tell and i think it's probably impossible to assume that the rebels are going to treat materials and some sort of scientific or sanitary way. to give you an example, they believe that there was a chemical attack a few days ago in a town of sarakeb. at the same time of what they say was a chemical attack, still

an unconfirmed chemical attack. one that they believed took place, they being the pre-syrian army. there was a conventional attack at the same time. it happened roughly at 4:00 p.m. in the afternoon, 30 people were injured, more than three people were killed. and families were coming to take victims away. people were being rushed off to different hospitals. some of the worst of the injured were being fehr idea across the border into turkey. then there were amid this attack, there were as you can imagine, a lot of panic. there were reports of chemical weapons that were used, people were grabbing these devices with their hands. putting them into plastic bags. and then trying to figure out what to do with them later. so the collection of evidence is certainly not a scientific process. in one village, they've been exhuming bodies and cutting hair samples off of bodies that were just buried in what looked like mass graves. this is not going to be neat. but what they're hoping is that there's enough evidence that

they can convince foreign intelligence agencies and through them convince foreign governments that chemical weapons have been used and that they can be traced back to bashar al assad. >> you know, richard, from, from what i'm hearing from arab diplomats and others is that there's a real divide now between the turkish and qatari governments arming some of the rebel forces, including the amnus front, according to the information in washington, and the saudis and the uae and others in the u.s. are saying should the be approach to general idris and more moderate, better-vetted neutral forces. do you think it's ever possible, will it need to possible for the c.i.a. to properly vet the rebel groups, the people supporting general idris and actually get involved in arming the rebels before too long? >> right now, as you just mentioned, there are probably hundreds of different rebel groups. some of them work together. the free syrian army, we think

of it as a rebel group. it's really an umbrella rebel group of many different organizations and now the united states is hoping that brigadier general idris can be the figurehead who can unite this moderate, not entirely secular, but generally secular-leaning organization. and that funding and support, political, military and financial, can all go through him. and that some of these other groups like the nusrah front will be weakened as he gets stronger. that is certainly the opinion of many in washington. that is what general idris himself is hoping. but these groups the nusrah front and other islamic groups have their own supporters. they operate independently of the system. they have been effective, sometimes when you're small and ideologically motivated, you can be effective in combat.

you can be effective in your public relations campaign and you don't have the same pitfalls of a giant umbrella group that hasn't had any support. which is what the fsa has been thus far. a very disorganized body. the u.s. is hoping idris can change that. >> as you know, secretary kerry going on monday to moscow to try to make the case again to russia. but few people think that that is going to change any time soon. thank you very much, richard engel in turkey. >> finish your thought. >> i was saying general idris said he thinks that the russians are acting like bashar al assad's spokespersons now and they don't expect any change to come from the russian who is thus far have put all of their coins into the camp of bashar al assad. >> i think he's absolutely right there was a big international gathering here in washington this week and i spoke to people from all sides, all of whom say that russia and of course iran are still going to be the last hold-outs in supporting

president assad. thank you, richard, thanks very much. good to see you. and as republicans prepare for hearings next week in their charges that the administration has covered up its failures in benghazi. it appears that president obama according to joe biden wants to know what has been done to correct the mistakes. at the state department ceremony today, honoring ambassador chris stevens and the others who died. the vice president said that mr. obama expressed concern about the security at diplomatic outposts to his advisers only yesterday morning. >> you know what the discussion was about yesterday? the president making the case about how we have to protect these more dangerously located embassies. and being told that, but the state department, they want to keep sending more. they have more people wanting to go. they know they have to be there. and i was saying, do they not realize how dangerous that place is? no, that's our job. nions and pes baked in a ketchup glaze

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guantanamo is not necessary to keep america safe. it is expensive. it is inefficient. it hurts us in terms of our international standing. it lessens cooperation with our allies on counterterrorism efforts. it is a recruitment tool for extremists. it needs to be closed. now, congress determined that they would not let us close it. >> president obama complaining about congress this week, about the detainees trapped in limbo at guantanamo. but his own actions couple with those laws passed by congress create an legal catch-22 for those prisoners. what can the president do to cut the red tape? carol rosenberg is a senior reporter for the "miami herald" and an expert on what shapi ins

happening in guantanamo. let's take this back to the fact that the president after the christmas bombing, the bomber in december, in to y2010 ordered at to anybody being sent back to yemen, specifically and that was more than 50 of these 86, who have been precleared by every intelligence agency and were told three years ago they could go back. now in the 2011 and 2012 defense bills, bills that congress knew the president had to sign, they put in more restrictions. and there's also an escape hatch. an escape clause if the secretary of state, secretary of defense wants to sign away that there is no chance these prisoners would ever go back to jihad. and it's not just yemen now, it's qatar and other places. that he would then let them go. is there any chance that the president will permit the secretary of defense to sign away this kind of thing, given the possibility that anybody in a foreign context would go back and do something?

something that -- could be terrifying. >> you've captured the conundrum perfectly, andrea. it really is up to this president to decide whether he's going to use his executive powers to order the secretary of defense and it's more than go back to jihad. what he is supposed to certify is that these men would not be a threat to the united states or its allies in the future. which is an incredibly high bar for the secretary of defense to meet. we understand, i understand that his legal advisers over at the pentagon have told him this is not something he could sign. so the real question is, whether there's wiggle room at the white house. whether the white house can waive certification. whether they can somehow exercise a national security exception. we go back to the january signing order by the president, when the ndaa was passed, in which he suggested that he did have authority, if not necessarily to ignore it, but to

find wiggle room. and this is what we're waiting for, andrea. >> now, you had been down there, you had seen conditions which had been relaxed to the point where under previous leadership, down in guantanamo, the men could be together, they could exercise, they could have some reasonable standard of living and we're talking in particular about 8 6 men who were told by all of the intelligence agency, they were precleared three years ago, that they are, that there is no reason to hold them. they didn't do anything wrong. now what has changed since february? >> that is correct. half of the men havernn the past three or four years, at least 56 of the men have learned in the past three or four years, that they have been cleared for release. that the d.i.a., the c.i.a., the fbi, the state department, the justice department, all looked at their files and said they could go home with restrictions. this doesn't mean opening up the cell doors and letting them walk out on to the base, but finding

a way for a country to help them resettle. and in some instances, perhaps, put them in their own detention system. but you asked about conditions. i think you can appreciate this, up until this year there was kind of a detente between a majority of prisoners and the guards. the guards were on the outside, the captives were on the inside theflt lived in a communal area that charitably could be called a dorm. they each had a cell with a door open. they could pray together, they could eat together. they could play soccer together. they could watch tv together. in groups of ten, maybe 20. and what has happened since the first of the year, as this tension has increased, there was a shakedown. there was an episode of rubber bullets in the recreation yard. there was, there was an allegation that they, they were more aggressive in searching their korans. and the men went on a hunger strike. and in response to this hunger strike, they also covered up the

cameras in their cells, blinding the guards' ability to watch them from the outside. so what we have now is the guards have stormed the communal camp, once the showcase camp. once the place where this detente exists and locked each man into his cell, up to 22 hours a day. so they can keep an eye on them to figure out who is at risk of starvation. so what is going on right now? is a completely different guantanamo. guantanamo under lockdown, like we haven't seen frankly since the bush years at the very beginning. when they were trying to figure out how to do this detention operation. >> andrea? >> and the forced feeding, which has been decried by the u.n. and by the american medical association as a violation of medical ethics and of international law. the force-feeding is a problem. as of today, we're told that there are 100 of the 166 detainees down there on hunger strike. and the military is feeding 23 of them, up to twice a day with

these tube feedings. that the, that as you say, the ama and certain international health organizations say is in violation of a prisoner's right to choose whether he, a competent prisoner's right to choose, whether he should be allowed to starve himself. this is controversial. it has caused the world to take a look at guantanamo again, something the president doesn't want. and for actually the american public to say what are we doing down there and are we doing it right. >> so complicated, this catch-22, carol rosenberg, thank you very much. thank you for your continued coverage of this. and those attending the kentucky derby this weekend are going to have to leave their coolers, cameras and umbrellas and backpacks behind. stricter security measures are now in place at churchill downs for this 139th derby where they still expect a huge crowd. rain is also expected this weekend. all eyes will be on the

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meanwhile the s&p 500 is above 1,600 for the first time ever. the nasdaq touched a 12 1/2 year high. stocks soared after the labor department reported employers add 165,000 jobs in the month of april. and the nation's unemployment rate dropped a tenth of a percent. in addition the job creations were revised sharply higher, up 50,000 from march and 64,000 for february. all this has prompted headlines like this one in politico. jobs report tempers spring swoon worries. and from the new york times, jobs data ease fears of sharp slowdown in u.s. economy. john harwood, what is the obama administration saying about these numbers today? >> reporter: they're delighted by these numbers, of course. any incumbent president wants to see the unemployment rate go down, see robust job creation