obsessed, just burning up the charts, selling books, mike. it's insane. >> moving product. >> and tonight we're going to be in philadelphia, the philadelphia free library. be there in philly, 7:30. >> have a great day, everybody. >> chuck todd, take it away. >> see you, chuck. north by southeast. voters are voting, and by tonight we'll know if mark sanford's comeback quest is a success or if elizabeth colbert-busch is the state's pick to head to the house. also this morning, will congress say yes to directly arming the rebels in syria. we're going to talk to the man leading that push, bob menendez. and a steady stream of retirements is turning to a new generation. 40% turnover in the last five years. why are both parties having a hard time not just keeping senators but finding new top-notch candidates to replace them?

>> good morning from huntington, new york. it's tuesday, may 7th, 2013. and this is "the daily rundown." happy nurses week! and now here is chuck todd. >> thanks to cara teal and the staff at huntington hospital and all the nurses across the country that have been sending in those good morning greetings. keep them up. anyway. any minute now, we'll go live to cleveland for an update from the police department there on those three women found alive who have been missing for a decade. an amazing story. and we're going to bring it to you the minute that press conference starts. but right now, i will begin with my first reads of the morning. tuesday. somebody voting somewhere. and today that somewhere is south carolina's first congressional district where polls are open in the most interesting race with the fewest national political implications in a very long time. think of it as the seinfeld election. really about nothing. but it's a match-up you couldn't make up if you tried. democrat elizabeth

colbert-busch, stephen colbert's sister, in an elizabeth means business tour bus. and former governor mark sanford making one last try at political redemption, hoping to claw his way back into public life after his career collapsed in 2009 when instead of hiking the appalachian trail he was in argentina visiting his mistress. colbert brought up the or argentina trip and denied she is focused on sanford's past infideli infidelity. >> it was about the fact that he left his post. he left without telling anybody where he was. it was about the job performance is what it was about. and that's all it was about. forgive, don't forget. >> sanford's slim lead in the district that mitt romney won by 18 points disappeared two weeks ago after a leak from sealed

divorce documents showed he had trespassed at the home of his ex-wife, jenny sanford. the national republican congressional committee dropped its support for him after that was revealed. >> the initial media reports led one to believe that i was sort of walking through the shrubbery with a camera, flashlight phone, trying to break into my ex's house. i think water seeps to its own level, and it's certainly done that. but i think it absolutely initially hurt us very, very badly. >> do you think there was a political motivation in that being made public? >> i would simply say the timing was interesting. >> speaking of timing, this weekend news broke that colbert-busch had been arrested for contempt of court more than 20 years ago. it was back in 1988 during a difficult divorce. she talked to nbc's affiliate wcbd about that leaked allegation. >> mark sanford and his allies have been trying to release this for quite some time. and, of course, i want to protect my children. so didn't want to bring it up,

talk about it. but since it's out there, let me tell you about it. 27 years ago, i left an abusive marriage. i left because i had to protect myself and my children. i went to court to try and get help. and during that time, the judge became very frustrated with the situation. and that's how i wound up where i was. as a mother, would i do it again? you bet i would. i will not let this distract the campaign. i will not let this impact my children for or my family. and we're going to win this tomorrow. >> colbert-busch is trying to differentiate herself from national democrats over issues like spending, while sanford has taken to running against nancy pelosi to a new level, debating a cardboard cutout and sanford has made it clear he's not indebted to national republicans.

>> i won the primary without their help. i won the runoff without their help. and if we make it tomorrow, i'll win the general without their help. i've been, you know, equal opportunity in that i've been willing to fight against republicans as much as i am democrats. >> if he wins, he becomes the skunk at the garden party, huh? anyway, by the way, in some ways, each party secretly wouldn't mind losing today. national republicans wouldn't have to deal with mark sanford on capitol hill and for democrats, a heck of a lot easier next november if they didn't have to defend colbert-busch and instead got to run against mark sanford again. few things to watch. what do the hold your nose republicans do. do they hold their noses and vote for sanford or colbert-busch or simply stay home? what does african-american turnout look like? for colbert-busch to win, she needs black voters who make up 20% of the electorate today to vote in about those same numbers, maybe down to 18, she could still win. any lower than that, she can't win. and where is overall turnout, strong turnout likely helps sanford, probably a sign

republican voters are putting aside their questions and heading to the polls. polls close tonight at 7:00 eastern time. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins us live from charleston, south carolina. and kelly, it's the most entertaining race, special election, i can remember, perhaps in our lifetime. and yet there really is no national message that's going to come out of it, other than it's an amazing race to follow. >> reporter: it's so good we've been here twice, chuck. and i appreciate that you ran so much of our interviews, and let people hear the conversations we had with these two candidates. part of what governor sanford, the former governor, would say is that it's been nationalized, because he argues that democrats have pour a lot of money into the campaign for elizabeth colbert-busch hoping to win and making the argument more broadly they could reclaim the house in 2014. he has tried to make this a nationalized race in a way to sort of fight against the popularity we have seen of elizabeth colbert-busch, who is a business woman, who has lived

in the community for 44 years, we were on her bus with a number of her siblings. not the comedian siblings, but a number of the 11 siblings, her grown children and so forth. a lot of enthusiasm around her. but we've also found when we have talked to voters there is not the hold your nose quality in people we're talking to about mark sanford. they i think have lived through all of his troubles very publicly. he talks about it whenever asked. and so people are kind of at a point, obviously, there are detract tors but people we have been encountering have been open to him. >> all right, kelly o'donnell covering this tonight. what a fun race to cover, kelly, thanks. >> reporter: we'll see. we'll watch them vote this morning now. >> all right. sounds like fun. kelly, thanks. as we're telling you right now, we want to go to cleveland, ohio where police are giving an update on the three women missing for more than ten years, an amazing discovery. found alive late yesterday. amanda berry, dejesus kidnapped

in the cleveland area, yesterday rescued. >> partners for years. we have several unanswered questions. why were they taken? how were they taken? and how they remained undetected in the city of cleveland for this period of time. today we have three suspects in custody. over the years, the cleveland police have worked closely with the northern ohio violent fugitive task force, led by the cleveland office of the fbi, and on the investigation of gina dejesus and amanda berry. we have with us today special agent in charge steve anthony. he will be talking later. we have also searched -- been searching our records for public safety calls to four services at 22 2207 seymore regarding

complaints of the occupants of the house. since last night we have learned the following. building housing does not have any records of permits or violations at that address. our records show that the cleveland fire department and emergency medical service have not been called to that address. at this time our records show that cleveland police have responded twice to that address. once in 2000 and another time in 2004, and will provide some details in regard to that. now as we move forward, we will provide updates as they become available, keeping in mind, as was stated, that this is an open investigation. again, we're thankful that ms. berry, ms. dejesus and ms. knight have been found and that they're alive and that we have offered our support to the

families and to the three ladies as they move down the road to recovery. i do want to say, again, this was a traumatic experience for them. less -- since we did not experience it as a community, but for them, it's a traumatic experience. we need to give them room in this. so i will introduce you, safety director. >> thank you. good morning. last night, just prior to 6:00 p.m., cleveland police communications center received two calls. one from a neighbor to the house on seymore avenue and the second from amanda berry. an incident was created at 5:52:33. a police car was dispatched at

5:52-49, and the first police responders arrived on the scene just under two minutes later at 5:54:07. by 5:58, the responding officers have identified gina te dejesus and amanda berry. one minute later they announced they had also recovered safely michele knight. all three of the missing women and a 6-year-old child, belonging to one of the missing women was conveyed to metro health medical center where they were being treated for their -- provided care. immediately after learning of the incident, we began an immediate search of our databases to determine what information that we had regarding this specific address. we have no -- as the mayor articulated, we went back and looked at all of the emergency medical calls for service and our fire responses to that address on seymore avenue since 2006, as far back as our database exists, and we found there were no calls for service.

we again checked our building and housing department to see whether or not there were any building code violations or complaints made against that address, and there were no complaints or violations identified. we also went back and looked at police calls for service. we did learn that in march of 2000, ariel castro reported to police that there was a fight in the street. there is no record of any arrest having been made as a result of that police response. and in january of 2004, as a result of an investigation that was initiated by children and family services, cleveland police, went to the address, knocked on the door and were unsuccessful in connection with making any contact with anyone inside that home. that incident appears to have been related to his employment, mr. castro's employment as a school bus driver. he either intentionally or

inadvertently left a child on a bus when he returned to the depot. as a result of that, it came to our attention that from the children and family services that there may have been a crime. an investigation was conducted by the cleveland division of police, indicated there was no criminal intent on mr. castro's action. again, we are going to continue to look at all of the databases, not only from calls being made from that address or about that address, but any calls that have been made or could have been made by any neighborhood residents alleging illegal activity or inappropriate activity within that home. and at this point i can confirm that we have no indications of any of the neighbors, bystanders, witnesses or anyone else who has ever called regarding any information regarding activity that occurred at that house on seymour avenue. i'll turn this over to chief of police, michael mcgrath, who will provide some additional information. rect

. good morning, everyone. last night, the city of cleveland, northeast ohio, received tremendous news. the rescue of michele knight, amanda berry and gina dejesus. as a law enforcement person, and i know everybody within the division of police and all my law enforcement participants fe partners feel the same, i was overseeing the disappearance of sakira johnson back in the 2000s, a 12-year-old female that disappeared and three weeks later we found her body, tragically. so to find these three girls recovered well is really -- it's just -- makes the police department -- it just gives us a boost. it really, really does. amanda, who had been missing since april 21st, 2003, was identified last evening after fleeing from her captor's home, and amazingly, gina dejesus and

michele knight were in the same house, alive and well with a small child. all the women, all the young ladies, have been missing about a decade. gina dejesus was last seen on april 2nd, 2004. michele knight had been missing since august 22nd, 2002. the cleveland division of police and our law enforcement partners, which includes the fbi, cuyahoga county sheriff's office, u.s. marshal's office, remain committed to these investigations over the years. through our involvement with the northern ohio violent fugitive task force led by the cleveland office of the fbi, we have continued to investigate any and all leads in these cases. these leads came in over the years and were investigated time and again. possible suspects were interviewed, search warrants were executed. thankfully, and i mean thankfully, due to amanda's

brave actions, these three women are alive today. three men have been arrested in this case. and they are ariel castro, 52 years old. her brother pedro, 54 years old. and another brother, o'neill, 50 years old. the original task force will now continue to follow up investigation relative to the recovery of and processing of the scene, interviewing and the investigation. next steps. there's ten years of logistical information that has to be sorted through. numerous interviews have to be completed. the fbi evidence recovery team is processing the scene. they worked until 5:00 a.m. this morning. they will regroup later this morning. and i anticipate it will take a few days to completely process the scene there on seymr.

most importantly, though, the victims' physical and emotional well-being are the main concern and have to be addressed. the fbi is providing assistance and special agent steve anthony will provide additional information relative to the debriefing of the victims. mr. anthony? >> thank you, chief. good morning, everyone. as chief said, i'm steve anthony, special agent in charge of the cleveland office of the fbi. for amanda's family, for gina's family, for michelle's family, prayers have finally been answered. the nightmare is over. these three young ladies have provided us with the ultimate definition of survival and perseverance. the healing can now begin. every evening, year after year, as you well know, family members and law enforcement kept the faith that one day they might see their daughters, their

sisters, their nieces again. monday evening, that happened. the fbi's violent crime task force as the chief and mayor mentioned, and particularly the men and women of the cleveland police department have pursued every tip and have stood with the families each step of the way. and the families of these three young ladies never gave up home and neither did law enforcement. as you can imagine, words can't describe the emotions being felt by all. yes, law enforcement professionals do cry. we rejoice with those families and the homecoming amanda, gina and michelle where i'm sure they'll be showered with much love and many, many hugs. it has been said, while we straight celebrate today, we and law enforcement partners continue to work shoulder to shoulder with the cleveland police department to answer the many questions that investigators have. and rest assured, the fbi will bring every resource to bear to

assist our partners in this case, to bring the full weight of justice behind those responsible for this horrific, horrific case. it has been said, i know the public and you all have many questions, and so do we. until we have the answers to those questions, based on facts and evidence, we won't be able to speculate as to the how and why. i just want to reiterate, in this case, as in others, all of us standing up here rely on the public's assistance to resolve these horrific cases. if you have any information, please contact cleveland's division of the fbi at 216-522-1400. that is, again, 216-522-1400. and it can't be emphasized enough, this is an ongoing investigation. in the coming days and weeks, investigators will be putting in countless hours to track the

events of the last several years. as the chief mentioned, the three, of course, gina, amanda, michele, much of the effort we're doing the next several days will be focusing on them. how can we in law enforcement help speed the healing and the recovery process? and treat them with the dignity and the respect that they deserve. and we're going to be providing not just the three, but their families, again with comfort, with advice, with information in the coming days to again help in that process. and part of that, we have a special team of child forensic examiners that will be arriving this morning to help in that process, in addition to numerous victim witness specialists, similar to those sent to events

such as in boston. thank you very much. i'll now turn it back over. >> thank you. at this time, we'll take a few questions. however, prior to, i would like to reiterate this is an open and ongoing investigation. and we want to be sensitive to not only the investigation but the family members and the victims. and i ask that when you ask your question you identify yourself and identify the media outlet that you're with. [ inaudible ] >> is there any evidence that is part of any larger operation? or was this focused just right here in cleveland? >> right now it's not. but we are aware of any type of national implications. that's why we're working so closely with the fbi.

we actually briefed last night on the investigative end of it. and we reminded the investigators not to forget about that. that it possibly could be something that is outside of cleveland. but as of right now, we have no indication that it's bigger than our neighborhood here. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: sir, were these women, held as sex slaves over the many years? >> you know, tom, that hasn't been determined also. i have to tell you that we are very, very careful with the interview process last night. so that's going to be an ongoing process today when we have our expert come in from the fbi. they're going to do a little more in-depth interviews. and i'm sure over the -- as time goes by, there will be more information that will be provided from those young ladies as to exactly what took place. [ inaudible question ] >> pardon me? [ inaudible question ] >> well, the one brother was, and it was a report that the

director mentioned before about inadvertently leaving a young man on a bus, the investigation was conducted, and there was no criminal evidence found. >> if your child was left on a bus, your name -- gary tuchman with cnn. if your child was left on a bus, there would be extensive questioning. if that questioning was done, these ladies may have been in and out 2004. why wasn't this guy questioned more aggressively about this? and will you change your protocol for looking for missing people, because this did not work out. >> number one, he was interviewed extensively relative to this complaint that we had. he was not a suspect in any other complaint. this was a -- he was a bus driver who inadd avertently, so he says, left a kid on a bus, went in for a lunch break, came back and then found the young man. number two, our policies are

solid. our policies have been revamped over the last few years. we're constantly looking at those policies in a way to improve them. number three, i can tell you, as being part of this division for the last 28 years, and being very, very involved in this over the last ten years, that the amount of effort, the amount of leads, the amount of work hours and dedication that went into this, i have never seen it before over the last ten years. every single lead was followed up, no matter how small. as a lot of you know in this room, we dug up a couple back yards. we recanvassed neighborhoods. we had vigils, we participated in national missing children's day along with the fbi. so our goal was to get them back safely. the real hero here is amanda. i mean, she is the real hero. i mean, she is the one that got this rolling. you know, we're just -- we're following her lead. without her, none of us would be

here today. >> just one second. we'll have the chief comment on the policy. [ inaudible question ] >> what was the shape of this house? was there any type of chains? >> that is -- there are other properties that we're interested in, yes. that is true. we focused on the house on seymour last night until the early hours of the morning, and we're going to go back. i have not entered the house. that is an active crime scene, and the only people that entered that house are the evidence recovery team or the fbi. so before any of that evidence is processed, we haven't seen photos, we haven't discussed anything with them. that's their protocol, is that that's their crime scene, they are going to handle it. >> we're going to go down here in the front. please raise your hand. we'll get to as many as we can. in front. >> your name and outlet.

[ inaudible ] >> reporter: can you confirm it was only one child in the house? and was that child -- [ inaudible ] >> yes. yes. there was -- yeah, that child in the house, is that what you're asking about? yes. we believe that that is amanda's daughter. yes. >> reporter: only child? >> yes. >> reporter: what about the father? >> we're -- do you want to answer that? >> no. >> that's ongoing. we have to do some -- >> reporter: can you share with us a little bit about maybe how the women were held in the house, whether they were locked in a room or how they were held captive for so long? anything you can possibly share with us? >> well, i really, i can't get into that, because that is -- you know, they're going to have to tell us that. obviously, there was a long period of time where nobody saw them. so -- but we have to wait until we interview them and hopefully they're going to tell us exactly what went on in there. they were the only ones there along with the suspectses. so that's a very difficult question to answer.

>> reporter: josh has ankle, abc. have you guys spoken to the mother of the three girls? >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: what's her involvement? >> we spoke with her last night. i can tell you a little investigative update is we canvassed numerous parts of the lower west side of the city. we were out on a couple streets. we got ahold of all of the family members, and we have interviewed all of them. what those discussions were i'm not at liberty to release that right now. we are going to have an investigative briefing internally later today to find out some of the results. but, yeah, we have talked to all family, friends, and we're going to continue to do that. [ inaudible question ] >> reporter: do you know where this child was born? if this child was ever out of that -- >> you know, bill, we don't. amanda is the key to that. like i said, you can only imagine the scene last night at the hospital with the family and

the friends. it was just -- it was chaotic. and we really didn't divulge -- we didn't get into deep, deep line of questioning. our concern -- our first and foremost concern last night was their physical and mental well-being. so that is going to come out. but as of today, i couldn't tell you. >> reporter: do you know if beyond -- you heard from the neighbor there was a lock on the door, the neighbor would help get it out. do you know if there was other type -- beyond just door locks, if there were other ways that those women were kept inside the house without giving too much detail? >> no. no, i don't. all i know is, you know, amanda broke out the bottom of the door to get out. so obviously the door was secure. but exactly how it was -- >> reporter: you're still investigating whether there were calls from neighbors to that home. you know you were called there twice, but you don't know for a fact whether the neighbors ever called to report. >> marty flask, public safety. we've quarteerqueried, looked a

the calls for service and checked with the county partners for the wireless system. we do not have any indications at all that any incoming calls for service, allegations, tips, or information we see from any other source or any other neighbors. i can confirm that. however, we will continue to -- check all our databases to confirm that as we move forward. but our initial review indicates clearly that nothing was provided to the city of cleveland from any of the neighbors that live on that street or anywhere else regarding the activities at that home. >> reporter: yahoo!. wondering about the conditions of the three women and emotional state, physical state and also michele knight, who she is and her story. >> i can tell you, from what i saw, the physical condition, i'm not a medical person, i know metro briefed last night. but, you know, they seemed to be in fairly good health.

i mean, look, there is no outward signs they needed a good meal. but that's something i would have to refer that to metro as far as their -- their medical condition. and mawhat was the second part? >> reporter: michele knight. what is her story? >> her story is she hasn't been seen in over 11 years. and that story is going to come out. she's -- you know, she spoke with us a little bit last night. but, you know -- no. out of respect for her, you know, what these -- what these young girls wept through, and if you would have seen them last night, you would have nothing but compassion. and, you know, love in your heart for them. so as far as investigations, we believe we've got three suspects. we're going to charge those suspects. we believe we have the people responsible for that. so right now, you know, we want to let them spend some time with their family and take this process very, very slow and respectful to their families and

to the young girls' needs. [ inaudible question ] >> that will be something up to the prosecutor. what we do, our policy here in the city of cleveland, is we gather the facts, we are mandated to charge within 36 hours of an arrest, which we will. we are mandated to see a prosecutor. they'll review the facts and it will be up to the prosecutor to charge. and then i would anticipate that this case be heard by a cuyahoga county grand jury. and when those charges come out of the grand jury, you'll know exactly what's going on. >> reporter: abc radio. how do you explain -- [ inaudible ] the involvement of castro? what was her involvement in this? the abduction? >> well, right now, we haven't interviewed them. and like i said, i keep referring back to the -- to our three young ladies. they're the ones that are going to lead us down this -- you know, down that path as to exactly what happened, and how they ended up with these guys and how they ended up in that

house. but he is -- the three are under arrest. they're going to be oh afforded their constitutional rights, but we are going to attempt to talk to them. >> reporter: so far, it's the women who -- [ inaudible ] they're the ones. >> absolutely. amanda is the one. she came out of that house and that started it all. yep. >> reporter: you mentioned earlier that you are still working on the cases of the women. when was the last time you had leads, and were you working them as abductions or run-aways? >> can you repeat that question? >> reporter: i said you mentioned earlier that the cases were still open. when was the last time you had leads on the disappearance of this woman, what kind of leads? and were you working these cases as abductions or run-aways? >> we were working them as abductions and we were receiving tips and leads consistently. i mean, some periods, you know, more than others. throughout this 10, 12-year

period. regarding gina and amanda. so, you know, i can't quantify exactly -- we could get that for you, maybe the latest series of tips, but we review them regularly with the family and with our partners in the cleveland police, and as the chief and deputy chief tomlin mentioned, we dug up two locations, believing we had evidence, based on information developed that they were in a particular location. so any investigation like this, it's going to ebb and flow as far as how many leads you're getting at any given time. but not a year went by -- not actually -- probably a three-month period went by that we didn't have some lead generated by the public or by the family. >> reporter: none of those leads led to castro? >> that's correct. absolutely. none of those tips. yep. [ inaudible question ] >> yes, one did.

his -- yes. the one driver's license was -- that address on seymour. so we assume that he lived there. >> reporter: which one was that? >> ariel. >> reporter: ariel? >> the younger two had different addresses on the lower west side. [ inaudible question ] >> reporter: amanda -- the school bus driver -- how -- did he drive them to school? >> we don't have any evidence that that's how it was. but like i said, that's up to the girls to tell us. we still -- we still don't know. i mean, that is the -- one of the great unknowns right now. we anticipate getting that information from the ladies, not from the suspects. >> can you tell us more about michelle's disappearance? most of us know about dejesus and amanda berry, but we don't know much about michelle's disappearance. can you tell us more? >> well, i can't tell you the exact date, but michele is a young lady that was reported

missing over 11 years ago. and she was the focus of very few tips and leads that we got. most of the media and most of the community awareness was for the young ladies. she was 20 years old when she left, but most of it was geared toward the two young -- the two young girls. >> reporter: was she taken from the same area that amanda and ge gina was taken? >> i'll try and provide additional information on michele knight. she was last seen august 22nd of 2002. she was 20 at the time of her disappearance. she is now age 32. her last address here in the city of cleveland was on walton avenue. the last time she was seen in 2002 was at west 106 and lorraine avenue. missing person report was made the following day by a family member. so she has been missing consistently and consecutively since 2002.

>> reporter: the other two brothers not living at the house, are they married? what's their marital status? >> we don't know. we're going to take two more questions and then wrap it up. >> reporter: did the girls say they knew castro? >> that's still a matter of investigation. still under investigation. >> reporter: where were michele and gina found in the house after amanda got out? >> the -- they came out -- actually came out of the house once the police approached and got into the residence. but amanda was the one that came out on to the street. amanda was the one that generated the 9/11 call. a zone car responded, along with a couple detectives and they came out of the house. >> they were not constrained. >> no, they came out of the house on their own. >> were the basements, windows -- windows? >> you're -- the house is -- you know, it's a crime scene. it's going to be processed. but she came out of the lower

part of the front door. it's a screen door, and there is a -- you know, a lower part of it. and that's what she broke out and crawled out of the door. >> reporter: are the girls in the same place now? >> yes, they are. >> reporter: this is in a city -- commencement the other day, president obama said we're not all strangers. what does it say that we can have girls missing for ten years, not about the police, just about in general, to be missing in a city? can you address that? >> yeah. i'm a life-long city resident myself. and it just -- reiterates what -- from city hall down through the division of police that it's a partnership between a community and law enforcement. during the course of this investigation, we're going to look and we're going to see if there was -- that maybe the community did miss or there was

something. you know, it's going to be part of an ongoing review and an educational process. but it's -- it's quite a challenge. we balance that right for everybody's privacy to what law enforcement is doing. so, you know, bill, i don't have -- i don't have a pat answer for that. but i just know that, you know, i know i can count on my law enforcement partners and friends. and we need to count on our community. it's so, so important. and like i said, that -- we can't stress that enough. and that comes all the way down, you know, from our mayor down to our chief about how important members of our community is. >> reporter: were the brothers arrested -- >> we're going to close out with the chief of police, mike mcgrath. i want to remind you the division and the fbi will make updates either through press release or press conferences, depending upon the information. chief mcgrath? >> thanks, sam. first of all, thanks for being here.

and most important, and i stress in my few comments, are the victims. the sensitivity to the victims, their emotional well-being. and that's what we're going to address first. after we get that stabilized, we'll move forward with the debriefing process. so we need your cooperation on some of your questions, because some of the questions may impact their emotions, the way their state of mind currently right now. so you're going to have to be patient with us as we proceed over the next couple days. next couple weeks. possibly a month with this investigation. thank you. >> thank you. so a nearly 40-minute press conference there by the cleveland officials, the mayor, the police chief, what we have learned is this. amanda berry is being hailed as the hero of these three women in this ordeal. michele knight, gina dejesus, and amanda berry.

she broke out, police are calling her the hero. they believe the three suspects they have in custody are the right three suspects, i don't believe there is any wider conspiracy. and that the 6-year-old girl that was also rescued with these three women believed to belong to amanda berry. that amanda berry is the mother. no identification on the father there. i want to bring in clint van sant, our expert on these former fbi profiler. clint, what did you learn from authorities that give you a better picture of what you think went on here? >> well, it's interesting, chuck. these three young women were all living in relatively the same neighborhood within just blocks of each other. april, 2002. i mean, august, 2002, april, 2003, april, 2004. young women were disappearing off the streets of cleveland. one after another. and no one was able to account for them. what happened to them, who took

them, how they disappeared. you know, many times, chuck, we write off these cases. we say, well, it's run-aways. they're teenagers, they run away from home. they've got other problems. but, you know, that's not the case necessarily. what's unique here, chuck, as you know, three women apparently kidnapped, apparently by the same person or persons, and kept in this one location. i mean, this harkens us back to the case of jaycee dugard in california. and as you recall, she was kidnapped for 18 years and fathered two children by the man who kidnapped her. >> you know, and hearing the police department, you could tell, getting defensive, saying they pursued every three months, they said, there was some lead on one of these three women they pursued here. but obviously there is going to be questions. you just pointed out, three women kidnapped from basically the same neighborhood and this

went dry for a decade. >> sure, it did. and, again, in similar type cases, like jaycee dugard, again, where we know she was held in a -- in a house, she was held in a backyard, she was held in tents. where neighbors could look over, authorities had been to the house. in jaycee's case, awarded $10 million because the state of california said we screwed up. we should have found this young girl and saved her. and we didn't do it. well, this is their early stages. the last thing we want is finger-pointing. but chuck, there is usually less than 1% of kidnap victims like these women after a period of time goes by. there is less than 1% of victims like this that are actually found, rescued. so this is, you know, somebody like myself who is the father of three and grandfather of eight, these are the things that scare us as a parent, as a grandparent, as a citizen, it

could happen to our children. but chuck, it also gives you that one more reason why people leave that -- >> don't give up. >> emotional porch light turned on their house that just maybe their children like these three will come home some day. >> you know, clint, is there -- is there any -- as you learned and as we learn from the jaycee dugard case, is there different ways that investigations should go when trying to find missing children? >> well, there are. and this is the challenge. right now we're told that there is no significant history, at least in one of the three brothers. now, the one brother who was initially arrested, who has been tied directly to this house, realize now, the house is in foreclosure, too. he owes about $2,700 in back taxes. so this one brother is tied to two other brothers somehow tied into this case, too. and there is a link. and chuck, we will find a link

between the kidnapper, the alleged kidnapper, and the families of these victims. somehow he knew one or more of these children. >> you're convinced of this. >> and unfortunately, they were his preferential victims. >> you're convinced of this, that's just your experience being a profiler, there has to be more of a connection here than a random just picking one of these young girls randomly off the street. >> yeah. especially for the first one. and realize, chuck, we had three girls in three years that went missing. law enforcement has got to answer the question, what about before the first girl went missing, and what about after the third girl went missing, are there other victims we can tie into one or more of these suspects too. but, chuck, i can guarantee you, there is going to be some type of knowledge on the part of the alleged abductor or kidnapper, and at least one or more of the victims' families. and realize, from where they were kidnapped, to where he

allegedly kept them in this house, where they were rescued from, chuck, there's only two miles away in this city. two miles, ten years. 4,000 days almost that these girls were held. every day, hoping upon hope that they would somehow be rescued. and the question, too, we're going to ask, chuck, is well if they could get out yesterday, why not last week or why not last year? >> well, clint, i want to play the 911 call from yesterday, about 13 seconds and get your analysis on the other side. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. >> do you need police, fire or ambulance? >> i need police. >> okay, and what's going on there? >> i've been kidnapped, and i've been missing for ten years, and i'm here. i'm free now. >> so, clint, obviously another question that you want to know as you're trying to piece together this puzzle, what triggered, why was she able to escape yesterday and not sooner. did something happen in that

house, did something trigger that the renewed effort or hope by these women to escape. >> well, if we put ourselves in the place of these young women if we can, and i don't know how anybody could, but you have to imagine that day after day, year after year, not only did they think about escaping, perhaps, but they also had to think about if they have a chance to talk to somebody, what do you say? you tell them your name, you tell them i am a kidnap victim and you tell them your address. those are the things that even if they have five seconds, they have to be able to blurt out that information. and you can only imagine the years that a young woman like amanda and perhaps the other two practiced what they would say if they ever had a chance to escape. and chuck, the interesting thing here is, of course they could have been locked up, chained up, we don't know whether they were kept in the basement or bedrooms of this house much but sometimes -- sometimes the psychological -- the emotional

chains, handcuffs that bind us are even stronger than the steel you would find in a police pair of handcuffs. the fear that these young women might have had. for example, if one escapes, you could threaten the other two are going to be killed. i'll to something to your parents, i'll do something to your siblings. these are all threats that i've heard associated with a kidnapper to psychologically force a victim to stay in one location and not try to escape. >> all right. clint van sant, former fbi profiler, somebody who is always very helpful to us on stories like this. clint, thanks very much. a happy day for the families. amanda berry, gina dejesus, michele knight, a nightmare finally ends for those families. we'll have much more on this story throughout the day, as we learn more, as authorities have more. we will be covering this. when we come back after the break a, few political headlines from the day. and some things to look ahead to. and the gaggel.

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as you know, authorities just gave us the most details yet that we have of an incredible rescue of three women that were kidnapped as teenagers. one of them was 20 actually. amanda berry, gina dejesus, and michele knight. they've all been rescued. amanda berry being called the hero on all this. she escaped the house, called 911, and police now have three suspects in custody. but they're being very careful. they haven't spent a lot of time questioning the women yet. they say they're being very sensitive to the fact that they need to reactly mate a little with their own families and with society. as we learn more, we'll cover this story all day long. a bunch of political headlines. chris christie, want to bring in the gaggle. we have this chris christie news revealing he underwent lap band surgery in february. he checked into a srmg center under a false name to undergo

the procedure. he dils missed the suggestion was a procedure done out of motivation solely for a presidential bid saying, quote, it's so much more important than that. a silicone tube is placed at the top of the stomach where it restricts the amount of food he can intake at one time. his campaign team announced yesterday they raised $6.2 million for his campaign. democratic consultant and former executive director of the congressional black caucus angela rooi, kristen solis, and amy walter. the president's golf game. south carolina won. chris christie news. and i have three minutes. as brooke just told me, i don't know where to begin. but the chris christie lap band news is everything about presidential politics unless he was not as healthy as he claimed to be over the years. >> it's about both things. no doubt this is a man who cares about his family and knows he cannot go on -- >> but he claimed he was healthy, didn't have any health

problems. >> he talked about the fact he understood where his health was and the port-au-prince of being around for his kid. but face it, this has 2016 written all over it. i'll be curious to see once he gets into public life again, when we see him with that weight loss, how he describes that. >> kristin, south carolina. what are we going to learn? >> i don't think much of anything because this is such a bizarre race. >> talk to me. >> regardless of what happens, i don't see a national emerging from this at all. >> other than how do house republicans hang out with mark sanford? >> if he wins for republicans. >> the president going golfing. i want to point out two of the three senators that were there, saxby cham blilsz and bob corker, it appears the white house has identified the two georgia republican senators and the two tennessee republican senators. these are the guys they can make a deal with and if not it ain't going to happen. >> yeah. i think the president has learned over time their relationships are abundantly

important and i think we have to continue to watch. >> sort of an understatement. >> at the end of the day, all that matters is he's learned and we have to see how this plays out. >> saxby getting a hole in one. >> i know. >> boost morale a little bit. you would think. maybe he's thinking, hey, hanging out with the president is good luck, right? so you cut a deal. when are these budget talks going to be done? they have to start at some point. >> i think you're asking the wrong person. well, i think what's so interesting -- >> mitch mcconnell doesn't want to have them. there's only a small group of republicans that want to do this. >> the conversation in washington is so focused on other issues, you forget you've got budge t issues. you have the debt ceiling, what's going to be coming up in september, i think. >> which, by the way, because the economy is recovering. >> yeah. >> interesting little -- deficit going down. >> all this fiscal wrangling that's still going on. >> they want a discussion about jobs more than anything else.

republicans i talk to say the same thing. we need to talk about jobs and growth. >> what about immigration reform? there are a lot of issues at play and of course with vice president biden saying background checks are coming back. >> but he said the obvious there, too, we have to wait for immigration reform. >> sure. >> shameless plugs, ang lee. >> my good friend james hairson the first ever black party chair. >> jamie. >> shoutout to my husband. takes his last exam for grad school. gets his masters this coming week from george washington. >> good deal. >> a shoutout to south carolina and my brother, a resident of south carolina, got engaged last night, getting married in the city of charleston. he's going to vote. my mom is also in that district. >> you have it. >> i have the inside info. >> thaes ooh it for this edition of "the daily rundown." coverage all day long of what's going on in cleveland as that investigation unfolds. tomorrow on the show, exclusively right here,

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helps prevent early skin aging and skin cancer, all with the cleanest feel. it's the best for your skin. neutrogena® ultra sheer. good morning. i'm chris jansing. this fbi is now working with police on that shocking story out of cleveland. three women found safe after being kidnapped more than a decade ago. three brothers have been arrested. less than han hour ago the first statements from investigators. >> the nightmare is over. these three young ladies have provided us with the ultimate definition of survival and perseverance. the heal canning now begin. >> the ordeal ended yesterday evening for amanda berry, gina dejesus, and michele knight after a neighbor heard amanda screaming from a house and helped the girls escape.

police also say the 6-year-old girl found at the house is the daughter of one of the kidnapping victims. i want to bring in nbc analyst and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. clint, thanks very much for being with us. when i listen to the investigator talk about letting the healing begin, you think about what these last ten years must have been like for these women and the reality, frankly, of investigators who need to ask questions. it's really only those women likely to give them the full story of what might have happened. where do they even begin with this, moving the case forward, clint? >> well, after they're sure of the health of these three victims and of the -- what's been described as