hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following big breaking news out of cleveland, lie high. police have released the mug shots of the three men in custody accused of holding three women against their will for ten years. the suspect are pedro, onil and ariel castro who is the owner of the home in downtown cleveland where the women were rescued. today police reveal that authorities had visited that very home back in 2004 while conducting a separate investigation. but when no one answered the door, they left. we've also learned that amanda berry, the woman who placed that frantic 911 call for help and set off the events of yesterday, has a 6-year-old child at the home as well. today officials praised amanda's courage. >> the real hero here is amanda. she is the real hero. she is the one that got this

rolling. we're just, we're following her lead. without her, none of us would be here today. >> the house is not far from the locations where all three women were abducted in three separate incidents as a decade ago, all within blocks of each other. amanda berry disappeared at age 17 in april, 2003. gina dejesus was taken in 2004. she was just 14. and michele knight vanished in 2002. the cleveland mayor frank jackson said many questions remain unanswered. >> why were they taken? how were they taken? and how they remained undetected in the city of cleveland for this period of time. >> nbc's ron allen is in cleveland with the latest details. and ron, this all broke yesterday. and it is still so hard to believe how this is all played out. i can't imagine what people are saying in and around that home today. >> it is unbelievable. and yes, people are stunned, amazed, they're trying to figure out how this could all happen in

plain sight. if you look behind me, you could see the house where the three women were allegedly held. down there the house that has the flag on the porch. you can see it is a cluster of about five homes there. and across the street on the other side there are four homes that face it. so it is not like this was happening down some quiet country road out of sight. people say they saw this individual ariel castro who we believe is going to be charged with abducting these women. we also talked to neighbors who say that in one case, they saw a little girl in the park a couple days ago for the first time. programs the 6-year-old who was found at the house. the little girl there. so all this was happening. and other people say they saw things that now with hindsight seemed very, very suspicious. and they say, neighbors do, that on a number of occasions they called police about things. the police showed up. they banged on the door. the neighbors say, and nothing happened because the police apparently didn't find anything suspicious and they were never called here because someone

thought there were missing women in the house. they were called for other things like a fight in the street or something else. so yes, just unbelievable that this could happen and go on for so long in a community that is just a modest homes, a corner store where an uncle lives. it is not like this happened in some obscure out of the way place. it is just amazing, tamron. >> what are authorities saying regarding charges? these men are in custody. when are we expecting charges? >> reporter: soon, i would think. we don't know precisely. obviously they're questioning and continuing in the investigation. the police have been going through this house and the neighborhood, they're also trying to figure out if there are other homes or other locations that are associated with any of the three brothers. i would suspect that very soon there may be formal charges. but at this point the police are trying to go through this and figure out what happened. just a baffling thing that all of this could happen in plain sight. it is amazing. >> all right. thank you very much. and joining me now, nbc crime

analyst and former fbi profiler, clint van zandt and investigative crime reporter, michelle sigona. michelle, let me start with you. new within the last hour or so, jaycee dugard released a statement saying they need the opportunity to connect back to the world. this is not who they are. it is only what happened to them. the human spirit is incredibly resillent. more than ever this reaffirm we should never give up hope. that is jaycee dugard. we know her story all too well. the fact she is saying, we should never give up, these women, one of them, amanda's mother passed away. she died not knowing the whereabouts of her child and not giving up the search. this development is amazing. and ron makes the point that this is not a rural farm somewhere in the middle of nowhere. this is in cleveland, ohio. >> this is cleveland, ohio, tamron. how many cases of missing women have we covered over the years

and here we are at a house in a neighborhood. you can reach out and touch someone. much like the neighborhood where jaycee was held. i've been to the neighborhood where jaycee was held and the neighbors are very close by. yet no one saw anything. no one heard anything. no one knows anything. police did confirm earlier that they are looking into other places where they're serving search warrants so maybe there could be other evidence held at other places. what we know right now from investigators earlier is that the other two women after amanda berry broke free earlier, actually got up and walked out on their own. so they were not tied up inside. and from that time, the two 911 calls were placed at 5:52 p.m. yesterday until 5:59 last night, that's how long police swooped in and made those four recoveries of the three women and the 6-year-old girl. >> okay. let me bring you in the profile. you've got three brothers who could be charged. authorities say within the next 36 hours. the three women went missing

within blocks. the make-up of that neighborhood reminds me so much of the case of gary back in philadelphia in the '90s where this guy was in an urban neighborhood and he had a house of horrors, literally under people's noses. what do you make as far as profile wise. you've got three brothers who are at charges with this. >> with three brothers, number one, this is somewhat unusual. number two, when you get multiple individuals, there is going to be one dominant person there. probably going to be the individual who had access to the house most often. and he is likely going to turn out to be a sexual sadist. and a sexual sadist is someone who will kidnap a victim or victims, keep those victims because unfortunately, he gets some type of terrible joy out of the sexual contact that he has but not only that, he likes to torture, he likes bondage, he likes restraints. all of these things we hear associated with this case right

now. that may be the dominant personality with the two other brothers somehow supporting or assisting or unfortunately, participating in the assaults on these women. >> let me play a portion of that 911 call. the chilling call made by amanda berry right after the neighbor helped rescue her. let's play it. >> help me. i'm amanda berry. >> you need police, fire, ambulance. >> police. >> what's going on there? >> i've been kidnapped and i've been missing for ten years and i'm here. i'm free now. >> to hear that woman say i am free now. it is so emotional. the horror that they had on experience in that house, clint is beyond our imagination. again, back to the fact that they were all within blocks of each other. gina dejesus, 14 at the time. ama aman amanda, 17 at the time. can you put together the ages, and one, that the person did not stop with one kidnapping.

they continued. >> this person or these people may not have stopped with three kidnappings either. we're yet to hear the rest of the story. we know that law enforcement is digging in their backyard right now for a couple purposes. number one, were there any other adult female victims, and number two, were there any other pregnancies that were terminated where the fetus may be found in the backyard that may have been the result of either a miscarriage or some other malfeasance. so there is a lot going on here. we know whoever kidnapped these young girls, whether it is the people in question or not. it was almost like they were women. as you know, 2002, 2003, 2004. these women were literally snatched from the street and taken to this house with the police suggesting they had been in the house since that time. it is almost, they were imprisoned. not just physical chains and ropes but emotional chains that

held them down and finally, finally allowed one of them on escape and say those three magical words. i am free. >> back to the investigation, michelle, we heard ron say that authorities had gone to the home before, not because someone saw anything suspicious related to these women but for other unrelated phone calls there. what are investigators saying again back to the fact that some were asking if the ball were drop, if more could have been done. it is a ledge it platt question. we don't know where the answer will lead. >> you're right. we know there were two 911 calls placed from that residence. once in 2000 and another in 2004. the 2000 was for ariel castro calling about a fight in his neighborhood. the 2004 was because he allegedly left a child on his bus. i have confirmed with the school district. i spoke with roseanne within the last ten minutes and she tell me that yes, he was an employee here at the school district. she has requested his personnel file. she was expecting it to be in.

she said to me it will be in her hands before the end of the day. so we will know more about his work history by the close of business today. >> his work history. i want to emphasize, his work history as of all things, a bus driver, a school bus driver. >> of children. and that 2004 incident allegedly left a child on the bus. so what had happened was child protective family services knocked at the door but no one answered. so it went through the investigative process. they did not find, you know, that he did anything wrong basically. so that case against him was dropped. never moved forward. >> wow! michelle sigona, clint van zandt, i appreciate you joining us. michelle, thanks a lot. still ahead, my conversation earlier today with former president bill clinton and philanthropist bill gates on shaping america's financial future. >> there was a report just out yesterday. heritage foundation said 6.3

trillion in new spending and entitlements, as well as social programs will be sucked out of the american budget, if you will, if comprehensive immigration reform is passed. >> i disagree. for one thing, it shows only the down side and the worst case down side scenario. >> more from president clinton why he is optimistic that reform will pass despite the heritage foundation's claim that $600 trillion will be added to the deficit. plus what both men said when i asked about the 2016 presidential race. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...

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now to why we are doing "news nation" live from washington, d.c. today. the fiscal summit 2013 sponsored

by the peterson foundation is underway discussing how america can get back on the path to prosperity and past the gridlock happening in congress. a few hours ago i moderated the key note conversation between president bill clinton and bill gates. the focus, shaping america's future. major trends, new ideas and big decisions. we discussed the most powerful trends facing this country is assessed how today's policy decisions will shape the future of america. from the current immigration debate and of course, the budget battle. >> you say that the health care debate is being shoehorned into the budget debate. one might also say that's happening as well with immigration reform. you recently said you expect it to pass but you also said it will help improve the u.s. economy. you might also know that there was a report out yesterday, heritage foundation says $6.3 trillion in new spending in

entitlements as well as social programs will be sucked out if comprehensive immigration reform is passed. your comment is obviously that the u.s. economy will improve. >> i disagree. for one thing, it shows only the down side in the worst case down side scenario with none of the upside for immigrants. think of everybody who ever came to this country as an immigrant and started a company or took a good job and built a family and became middle class tax payers and sent their kids to college. i mean, it is one side of the ledger and the worst-case scenario on one side. i'm for immigration reform because we need to stay younger than our competitors. we're younger than japan. we're younger than europe. ireland is the only country in europe with the median age younger than america. and it continues to give us diversity and contacts in the rest of the world and for it. there is some dispute about something bill knows a lot more

than i do about, which is whether, i've always favored increasing these visas and getting more skilled workers in here and everybody in high-tech fields tells me we need more. and now there is a little debate about it. people claiming they want to hire people from overseas because they work for less money. i think it is clear that if you get more talented people in this country and you make them feel welcome to stay, and you let them start businesses and do all these things, it will strengthen us. we can handle more people in america. and we can't afford to be in a world where we're, oh, you want to counter these budget problems, have more young workers and tax payers, relative to the number of people spending your health care money publicly or privately. >> a number of bill names as they say in silicon valley spending millions getting into the immigration debate. people who have been previously described as a-political, if you

will. your name has been listed as someone involved. you can tell me if this is truth or fact. i am the media so sometimes we get it wrong. a lot of time we get it wrong. the reality is there is millions coming in to participate on immigration reform. did president clinton make the case that it is about recruiting the best and the brightest from other countries for engineering, science jobs, back to the innovation? >> i'm glad to hear that i'm viewed as apolitical. seriously. it is not a positive label nowadays to be viewed as political. and i do think that thinking just about the technocr tampic, how to improve health care, foreign aid is spent the right way. i am one of the backers of activities round immigration. immigration, it is important to

separate two pieces. one is the high skills piece. of the people that we have come into the country should some portion of that include the people who have computer science degrees. including people that we've given a six diesed education here in the united states. that is, if i'm a graduate student at uc berkeley in computer science, i'm going to get a job for over $100,000 a year. the question is should that job be in india and the other jobs created around the person there or should it be in the united states? that person is going to get hired. i guarantee you. because we help provide them a great education. so the high skills piece, there is no doubt the economic benefits, if you're careful about who is using it and how they're using it which the compromise proposal has all of that. then you have the broad immigration debate where again, the economic benefits, i think, are very clear. i'm less expert on this piece but the idea that somebody is showing that as a net negative.

that's very strange. we are the envy of the world as the president said because we have a growing population. when you get into what italy and russia and japan are in with shrinking populations, that is very bad for investment. and the number of working people to the retired people. it is a very tough problem. so immigration has been a huge sense of vibrancy and economic improvement. so i'm hopeful that we get the whole thing pushed through. of all the issues, it seems to be the most likely that something will happen. >> i would like to also point out that we need to stop being so arrogant in some of our rhetoric. like we're doing everybody a big favor. i did read the other day, and maybe just because i read it, like you said it doesn't make it so, there was an article the other day that said every year

we had a demand for more or less 120,000 people with computer science degrees. and in the aggregate, we were only producing 40,000. if that's true, why in god's name wouldn't you keep everybody here who wants to stay who got an undergraduate or graduate degree and why wouldn't you have a visa program that wasn't a bureaucratic nightmare to fill the gap? while we're trying to increase more young people in the stem field. one of the things we did include the clinton global initiative when president obama said we need another one him,000 stem teachers, we knew the government wasn't going to have the money to do this at state and local levels. we got two dozen partners and we'll fill about 30% of that gap through a totally private commitment. why wouldn't you do that? we need to be careful here. one of the great good news stories in the world in the last five years is mexico. which is followed brazil in

reducing income and equality. the president who just left, calderon is too famous for the drug wars on our borders and too little known for starting 140 tuition-free universities that produced among other things last year, 113,000 engineering graduates. and we have had no net end migration from mexico for the last two years. the dream of nafta will pay off. they'll be our equal trading partner. we'll work together to build up the americas. they're getting all kinds of investment from asia moving back here. and in satellite areas like people are coming to the caribbean now. all because we believed in the promise of a partnership with mexico. we should be wanting these people here. not like they're all knocking down the doors to get here. a lot of those mexican people who went home have better economic opportunities at home than here now. this is good for us. we should do this because it is

both morally right and smart complex. >> picking up a bit on juan's presentation. i was so struck by his comment that the fiscal debate is taking up all the oxygen in the room. juan believes we're not able to look at trends ahead because we're mired or being pulled down by this ongoing conversation that seems easily resolved with compromise. mr. president, i'll give you the first stab at that. >> i think everybody in this debate has an obligation to say what they believe. i think paul krugman is right in the short term and all those guys, everybody is right in the long run. the question is, timing. if you don't kick the long term debt reduction plan in at the right time and we don't pass a plan in advance, there is always the chance that the economy will start recovering and interest rates will go through the roof and it will make this sequester look like a sunday afternoon walk in the park. >> but here we are again going

back to juan's remarks, just a short time ago of the oxygen, if you will, being taken out of the room. and we are back to the initial start of this conversation. how do we move it forward with specifics? >> i don't know. because i think all the president can do is make his proposals and keep playing golf with republicans. i'm not making fun of him. i think it is a good thing. you have to keep trying to work on it. >> that's a portion of our hour-long discussion with bill gates and form he president bill clinton. here's a live look at the latest event about to start. the future of education, innovation and security. andrea mitchell will moderate this seshl with retired admiral. coming up, what happened when i asked president clinton and bill gates about the 2016

presidential race. >> a role in the foundation, she's writing books, she is having a little fun being a private citizen for the first time in 20 years. >> we'll play much more. also ahead, president obama has just wrapped that joint press conference with the president of south korea. the security threat from the north certainly topping the agenda. we'll have the latest in a live report from the white house. c-max two. that's a super fuel- efficient hybrid for me. and a long range plug-in hybrid for you. now, let's review. introducing the ford c-max hybrid and the ford c-max energi plug-in hybrid. say hi to the c-max hybrids. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them.

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elicit concessions, those days are over. >> president obama speaking at a joint news conference in the last hour with south korean president park. it was amid new threats over the exercises this week. peter, what more did both presidents say regarding this new threat from north korea? >> reporter: well, i think that sound bite pretty well captured exactly what the president was trying to accomplish in the course of this shared news conference with the president. president park of south korea today. he credited her for her calm and steady resolve in the face of this effort by north korea to try to destabilize the region once again. the president making it very clear the u.s. and south korea stand shoulder to shoulder on this. it was just yesterday that we learned new information from u.s. officials that north korea has removed two of its mid range, medium range ballistic missiles. that after that, the pent said

that that was what it was described as a provocation pause in the situation. so there is a belief the tensions have simmered down a little bit. nonetheless, this was a reinforced effort as the president described to north korea, if they tried, they have failed again to drive that wedge between the u.s. and its ally in south korea. >> and peter, let me play the president also answering questions about whether syria had crossed the red line as it relates to chemical weapons used against its own people. let me play it. >> you suggested even in your question a perceived crossing of a red line. the operative word there is perceived. what i've said is that we have evidence that there has been the use of chemical weapons inside of syria. but i don't make decisions based on perceived. and i can't organize international coalitions around perceived. >> peter, as you well know, the

president's critics are saying that he continues to struggle with this red line issue. and there are even reports that the comment about the red line was an adlib and that the administration had not thought this through fully. >> reporter: i spoke with senior administration officials today and they insist despite new york times reporting a couple days ago that this was an unscripted line. this was in fact a deliberate red line the president drew last august. the rest of that sound bite that you played a second ago, the president said in reference to this idea of a perceived red line, when we do not have all the facts. he said we tried that before. that didn't boring out so well. of course a very clear reference to the faulty intelligence that in many ways led the u.s. to invade iraq at the time. the president also made a couple statements that i think will be memorable for the people in that room. as you hear them, he said for one that the u.s. is acting right now. even if not with lethal aid being provided to the rebels, they are providing significant humanitarian aid and nonlethal aid in the way of body armor and

other items to that effect. he said the u.s. follows through on its commitments, direct reference to osama bin laden and to moammar gadhafi. saying if i'm trying to get my guy, bashar al assad, be listening. we get our guy. >> thank you very much. less than five hours until the polls close in south carolina for the congressional race between mark sanford and elizabeth colbert bush. polls show they're in a dead heat out of south carolina. plus, governor chris christie's weight loss surgery. is this an indication that he is thinking about running for office? he said it is not but he has revealed great details on his battle to lose the weight. nbc's senior political editor mark murray joins us with how all of this is factoring into the world of politics. male anno] from more efficient payments. ♪ to more efficient pick-ups. ♪

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special congressional election where former governor mark sanford is trying for a political comeback after his extra-marital affair four years ago. he is facing democrat elizabeth colbert bush in a battle. it is the same seat sanford held before becoming governor. both candidates talked about the race today. >> you get ultimately to the day of judgment. and today is that day. and again, you feel a mixture of calm in that you've worked so hard and you are waiting for the verdict. i think what we all know through life, and i've heard these conversations have moved, talking with people through the district is that we're all going to make mistakes in life. we all have feet of clay. those events ultimately can become not definitional but refinement to our lives and we can become a better person for it. >> it has been, i guess, is exhilarating a strong enough word? it has been an incredible

journey, an incredible opportunity. >> joining us now to talk more about this hot race, kelly o'donnell who joins us from south carolina. let's first talk about the polls. just a couple weeks ago, what we're seeing as folks go to vote and we're wrapping up this day. >> well, i've spent time with both candidates and we've been at precincts trying to get a feel for how this is looking. what i can tell you is vote here's did go to the polls really felt strongly about wanting to be heard. they believe this is an port race to fill a seat that has been vacated. interesting anecdotal comments. with he met some women who were very strongly for elizabeth colbert busch. really believe it is time to make a clean break from mark sanford. others were saying to us that even though they don't like what mark sanford, did referring to the affair that he had four years ago, there were people who told us, they did end up voting for him because overall, their views are more in line with his. you don't often get that sort of

a dynamic when you talk to voters after they've cast their ballot. not feeling really great about their choice but it is the choice for them. it is a heavy gop district. elizabeth colbert busch has had a lot of money to be on the airwaves here. a lot of excitement and energy around her campaign. we've spent time on her campaign bus. the polls are closing at 7:00. i would not be surprised either way how it turns out. >> that is because the latest polling shows the race is virtually a dead heat. polls showed elizabeth up by a few points but now a different story today. >> reporter: one of the thing that mark sanford would say, in the last weeks he believes he's been effective between making a link between elizabeth colbert busch and democrats,

specifically nancy pelosi. he believes that has been helpful to bring his interests in his campaign back. again, hard to know. both campaigns have not been relying a lot on those polls because of the nature of a special election. they're a snap shot, of course. but it's been great to be on the ground here to hear the varying points of view. and it is definitely -- any excuse to come to charleston. let's be honest. >> i guess it is a good thing they're not paying attention to the polling because it gives us an entire day to talk about it which is what has been happening all day. the discussion of the polls. thank you. a major revelation today from new jersey governor chris christie. the 50-year-old husband and father of four admitted to undergoing lap band surgery in february. he said the move was at the urging of his family just days before the procedure in february, the governor joked about his weight with david letterman. >> basically, the healthiest fat guy you've ever seen in your life.

crazy. absolutely crazy. >> there's your campaign poster right there. you know, that's not bad. >> our first read team notes, we know the issue of his weight has been discussed with him by supporters and consult dlanlts and it is something he needs to deal with in some form if he ever did decide to run for national office. joining me live, senator political editor mark murray. not to name drop but i was on with bon jovi and chris christie. you see him there and he was talkative and engaging. people were stopping him. he is incredibly popular. he says this is about his family. but we as journalists have to ask the other question that goes along with that. >> people are always looking for clues to 2016. we don't know if he will run for president yet. but this sign, the weight loss surgery often sends these 2016

signals. this happened in the lead up to 2012. remember, former miss governor haley barber, if i lose a bunch of weight, you know i'm running for president and he didn't run. people are looking for this for a potential sign that he runs. perhaps the biggest hurdle he has, he's running for re-election in new jersey. 2016, his ideology. some conservatives don't think he is conservative enough compared to all the other republicans who might be running in 2016. >> we know cpac didn't invite him. some big name were at the nra event in houston. we would not see him at an event like that, i don't think. back to his reputation of being a straight shooter. and the fact that he waited to reveal this information. does that speak to the personal struggle or something different there? because he was very defensive about the doctor who had diagnosed him if you will, without ever meeting him. >> this is always a personal type of issue. >> but it had to come out.

>> right. it had to come out. he gave an interview to the new york post. he spoke to our own matt lauer. he spoke on morning joe to be able to confirm this issue. now this has become -- we are ahead to 2016 and we'll see if he ends up running. as i mentioned, he has a race for governor. 2013. he is a big favorite in that contest. >> to your point, the weight is something that we're discussing and he is discussing but the ideology and other hurdles that he must face moving down the line if he is going to run for president have to be addressed. >> that hurdle about his weight can be a potential good story for him. i remember mike huckabee lost a tremendous am of weight it was. one of the really great stories run. he was running in >> it humanizes you and one of the reasons he is being praised for example, with the sandy relief money and calling out the republican party. he is seen by many inside of new jersey and outside as being the straight shooter. this real guy. and this can add to that story line. >> very good policians can take a story and spin it and

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>> there's an elephant in the room that i have to address here quickly so indulge me. women -- >> not a donkey. women are clamoring at the edge of our seats wondering what is next. we know that she's dynamic -- her leadership is unmatched. her voice for women, the poor, families, so i have to ask it. mr. gates, when is melinda jumping into politics? >> i'm for her. >> we're both very lucky to have amazing wives who keep us on track and do amazing work in their own right. and i don't think melinda will run for president. she hasn't mentioned it to me. >> i pivot to you, mr.

president. >> bill hasn't mentioned it to me either. i don't know what will happen. but i know this. that is the worst expenditure of our time. you know, she is taking a role in the foundation, she is writing books, she is having a little fun being a private citizen for the first time in 20 years and she is, you know, that's fine. but we need to be worried about the work at hand. all of us do. so whoever the next president is, has an easier set of choices before him or her to build america's future and to build a more peaceful, more prosperous world. and it is frustrating when i think we're majoring in the minors, either over the budget debate or going right back to politics as soon as the last election is over instead of getting into the grimy details,

where the future of america will be written. how we resolve these details. i think i'll panneder to bill gates a little bit, since he has money and i don't. the gates foundation may be the best foundation, not just now, ever. part of it is they worry about big things with clarity, but they also get into the grimy details. this stuff has to work. all that really matters in the send whether what you do turns your good intentions into real changes. and it obscures our capacity to do that and plays to our national tendency to attention deficit disorder when it comes to politics and public problems if we get off on politics too early and forget about the details. >> it was quite a day. a one-hour conversation. thanks again to the peterson foundation. president clinton and of course,

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welcome back. the air force office here ran the service's sexual assault prevention and response program is out on bail after his arrest on charges of sexual batry. police say lieutenant colonel jeff krusinski forcibly groped a woman in arlington, virginia, in a parking lot early sunday. all of this come as a new pentagon report shows sexual assault in the military are on the rise. actual reports of sexual assault were up 6% last year. the pentagon also says the number of sexual assaults that went unreported skyrocketed from 19,000 to 26,000. joining me now, jackie speier is

taking a leading role on speaking out about both women and men in the armed forces who have been raped and sexually assaulted. first your reaction to this arrest. >> i was sick to my stomach when i heard about it. what does this say about the air force that their best and brightest, the person they put in the pentagon as a lieutenant colonel to run the sexual assault prevention and training office is someone who doesn't get it. someone who in the end will sexually assault someone in the civilian world and get charged with a sexual assault. i wonder what would have happened had it happened within the military? >> the pentagon released a statement saying, secretary hagel has expressed as you did, outrage and disgust over these troubling allegations and emphasize that's this matter will be dealt with swiftly and decisively. you've been on the forefront, the leading role in speaking out against these sexual assaults and the culture, if you will,

that exists among some in the military. but going back to this arrest, might this be as folks in this town like to say, a game changer? might this bring more attention so men and women are not suffering in silence and fear in the military after being assaulted? >> i hope that is the case. this may be the tipping point. i must say that the fact that there was actually a reduction in the number of victims that actually reported their sexual assaults in this most recent report is really chilling to me. after all the attention that many of us have put on this issue. have really commanded more attention by the brass and yet there is a reduction in the number of complaints filed. even though there is an increase in the number of assaults taking place. i mean, that suggests to me that we have predators on the run in the military being allowed to continue to really operate

without any kind of restriction. >> congresswoman, thank you again for leading the way and keeping those people who have been victims of these assaults on our minds and this issue on the front line. thank you so much. >> my pleasure. it's time now for our news nation gut check. we mentioned that new jersey governor chris christie has admitted to undergoing lap band surgery, weight loss surgery back in february. he said it was about turning 50 and looking at his children and wanting to be there for him. however his weight has been an issue in campaigns before and he is widely believed to be considering a run for the presidency. the governor inever insists he did not undergo weight loss surgery in anticipation of a presidential run but what do you think? what does your gut tell you? that does it for this special edition of "news nation" from d.c. thank you for joining me today. my buddies at "the cycle" are up next. dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases.

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