these women endured, chilling, including reports that the three victims may have had five pregnancies between them and the chances of discovery that went by without rescue. and michele knight's mother saying this the moment she found out her daughter was alive. >> did you talk to police then? >> yes i did. >> what kinds of efforts did they make to locate her? >> they told me if she breaks the law or if they spot her they will let me know but nothing happened. >> reporter: did they think she just left the home? they didn't think it was an abduction. >> because she was 20 they thought she just left because of the upset, because of the baby and everything. >> after a decade of captivity and abuse the first full day of freedom for the three women in cleveland, ohio.

katie joins me from washington, d.c. katie was abducted 20 years ago when she was 9. she wrote about her ordeal. and here in our studio is clinical assistant professor of psychiatry. it is great to have all of you here to talk about this. kraig, i want to remind everybody exactly what barbara knight said about police involvement when her daughter went missing. she talked to savannah this morning. >> did you talk to police then? did you file a missing person's report? >> yes i did. >> what kinds of efforts did they make to try to locate her? >> they told me if she breaks the law or they spot her they'll let me know but nothing happened. >> did they think that she had just left the home? they didn't think it was an abduction? >> because she was 20 they figured that she just left

because of the upset because of the baby and everything. >> so what are police doing right now in their investigation? how much is there a fact checking and back tracking to initial reports and calls they have received over the years? >> reporter: thomas, this morning the public information officer for the cleveland police department pushed back. he said that and insisted reports of multiple calls to 911 are false. that is what we heard this morning. in terms of the investigation right now what you can see not a great deal of activity going on. we do expect charges to be filed later formally charged with kidnapping and rape. there is question as to whether ariel castro and all three brothers will be charged with kidnapping and rape or perhaps one of the brothers charged with one set of charges and the other two a completely different set. we are expecting that to happen sometime before 6:00 this

afternoon. >> what more do we know about where the women are now? we do have a shot of amanda berry's sister's home where we believe amanda berry is inside. what do we know about where the women are now? >> reporter: at last check all three women were being held in private locations. you mentioned the outpouring of love and support at amanda berry's house. we should note here this afternoon about 2:00 we are told there will also be a prayer vigil for all three of the young women. >> let's talk more about the brothers. you have been on the beat of uncovering new details about the castro brothers. here is what one of the relatives said this morning. >> reporter: is there anything that stands out to you now as being suspicious or anything that should have raised red flags? >> no. absolutely not. they always sape hind sight is 20/20. if there ever anything that

anyone would have told my father who lives in this neighborhood that they thought that anything suspicious was going on with his nephew or that house, no one in this entire family would have kept anything secret or protect them to the extent of what has tran transpired here. i know his siblings would have never condoned or kept this quiet. >> they seem in absolute shock about this. what are you hearing aboutt the relationships that the suspects had with the victims' family. >> reporter: ariel castro who is the owner of the house, he actually knew and the castro family knew as a whole the family of the youngest victim here, gina de jesus who was abducted in 2004. in fact the families were so close -- >> i want to interrupt you for

one second. we have someone come out from the berry home. >> specific to the wishes. as a community i know we all want to respect their wishes. i know there is a job to do. if i could set a couple of parameters so everyone is treated fairly here. i don't want anyone getting hurt in the excitement. the family has asked that you remain on the east curb. so we will be on this side of the street. i cannot allow the street to be blocked. the family wants no one on that property. and i will have to take action. i don't want to come across as threatening but we have a job to do. nobody go on the family property. and please let's stay off their sidewalk. across the street we can be respectful and get the news out. i know there is a job to do so let's do that. i don't want anybody getting crazy and making a carnival atmosphere.

the girl wants to come home. when she is home she is going to freshen up. she will come out on the porch and give a brief statement. after that she has asked that you do not hound her for a statement. her sister, beth, will handle any media inquiries after that point. the family will come home and asked you try your best not to film the young child. and i will have to try to enforce that. they will do their due precautions. in a little bit they will be here. let's stay on the east curb. there is enough room everybody can get a fair shot. please do not rush. we don't want a carnival atmosphere here. i have enough resources and i will do what i have to do to respect the family. and i ask that we all know our good manners and guide us. yes, sir. >> do you know the child's name? >> very shortly. >> what does this day mean to you? >> what a relief to us all as a

community that they are finally home and thank god that they are alive. sometime ago about a year ago we were excavating a large lot and somebody asked me were you disappointed that you didn't find evidence down in the dirt. and i think i answered i was somewhat disappointed but relieved because it kept hope alive. i said someday amanda will come home and somebody will be 32 to give her a big hug. that day is today. let's celebrate it and do it respectfully. >> do you find yourself asking questions? >> i believe that the information that we were given, that we executed as best we could and the tactics we use i do not question the investigation. i will not question. certainly there is should have would have could have. the police has done a good job and worked tirelessly with the

fbi and developed a good partnership with them. today i am very confident in our approach and very confident in the way our detective unit handles missing persons. they are going to be here shortly. >> after all of the years i have to ask you do you think you would be out here today? >> thank god because i am relieved. there were moments that i questioned whether or not they were still with us. hope is alive today and our dreams have been answered. >> i know the second district where gina lives but is she coming home today? >> i don't know that. if i knew that i would tell you guys. >> do you know amanda's child's name? >> i am not going to release the child's name. i am going to go on the other side of the curb. my name is thomas mcartny. i am going to go on the other

side of the street now and i ask if everybody would stay on this side now. >> to recap here you are listening to commander thomas mccartney meeting with reporters outside of beth berry's house, the sister of amanda berry. amanda the hero able to get the attention of charles ramsey outside of the home in cleveland. she was able to crawl outside the door after ramsey kicked it down with her 6-year-old in tow. we don't know the name of the 6-year-old child but the commander asking for privacy for the family and asking for the reporters to step back on the other side to make way for the family so when amanda does come home she will give brief remarks. again, asking for respect for this family. obviously the ordeal that she has been through. jeff, i know i interrupted you. take us back to where you were on your report and the charges.

>> reporter: no worries. that was a fascinating and interesting news conference. i was saying ariel castro and the castro family has a relationship oddly enough with the youngest victim, gina de jesus, so much ariel castro's son actually wrote an article at the time of the disappearance about how devastated the neighborhood was saying that everyone loved her and that everyone was looking into it and trying to find her and said there were no leads. little did he know, of course, that years later his fatherer would be accuse of doing this in the house right across the street. and then ariel castro, his daughter was good friends with gina de jesus. when she went missing the daughter actually appeared on "america's most wanted" speaking out about how she was the last person to see her alive. gina invited her over. gina walked away and that is the

last anyone saw of her. chilling and ironic to see now that her father is the one who may be charged today in this. the other thing we have been looking into are the employment records of ariel castro. he was a former school bus driver, got in so much trouble, he was fired back in 2012. on top of that his ex wife took him to court in 2005 alleging serious violence, knocking out teeth, breaking ribs, beating her so badly it created a blood clot in her brain. that case was dropped on a technicali technicality. as we put the fabric together. >> i want to ask you to stand by because casey is waiting for us in washington, d.c. katie was abducted at the age of 9 and held underground in a

bunker have 17 days where katie was sexually abused and tormented. you endured so much at such a young age and you have turned this into your message. you are an advocate for survivors. explain to us when you think back to that time in your life after being kidnapped did you automatically go into survivor mode while holding on to the one day you would be rescued by family or police? >> i think my entire childhood i was in survivor mode. i was sexually abused by my god mother's husband, neglected by my biological mother and then physically abused by almost every adult in my life. my childhood prepared me to be the survivor that i ended up being. >> what is your advice as you hear about conditions as we learn more about the reports happened in that home and we are bound to learn more. what is your message to these women as they now come back to

their families and try to reintegrate themselves into a life that was interrupted ten years ago? >> i want these women to know that it is possible to recover from this trauma that with the support of their family which they are obviously receiving, with the counseling individual and family counseling that they can hopefully move on and overcome what they have endured. >> you have been listening with me along with everybody else about reports coming out of the home itself. these women were heinously interrupted at young ages in their lives and now coming back home. when we talk about the conditions and the fact that savannah found out there are chains found in the home and we'll learn more about what the brothers did, what is the first step for proper treatment for these women and the 6-year-old child. >> some of the things we want to look for are symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder.

everybody handles stress differently and has different coping mechanisms. so looking for intrusive thoughts or disturbing images of the events that took place, nightmares, flashbacks, looking for depression and suicide ality, withdrawal and how are they taking care of themselves? are they able to connect and share feelings? a lot of times people end up withdrawing. people deal with stress and trauma differently. >> right now they need to be pickled in love and support. kraig, i want to give you the last thought because you had something else to report. >> reporter: we hear from amanda berry shortly and perhaps at this news conference we will get the answer to probably the three greatest questions that remain in this case, how are these girls precisely captured. how were they abducted? how did they manage to remain undetected for so long?

what went on inside the house behind me? those are the three questions we are waiting to get answers for. >> thank you so much for joining me. thanks for being on set with me to talk about this. we are waiting for that brief statement that amanda berry is going to make once she returns home. the commander telling people to move aside to wait for her to come out and she will be making a brief statement. we will have it for you here. why did it take so long to find these three missing women and did race play a role? our agenda panel will weigh in. and then the start of what is likely to be a contentious hearing on capitol hill about the deadly attack in benghazi. republicans hot on the administration's trail on who knew what and when after the deaths in libya. do you believe there was a deliberate attempt to cover up what really happened in benghazi

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i want to remind you that we are awaiting amanda berry to come out and talk to reporters. this is the home of her sister, beth. amanda person rescued first from inside the home in cleveland climbing out with her 6-year-old in tow. police rescuing two other women inside. amanda is expected home at that house in any moment. a brief statement will be made and we will carry it for you live. race and class, were they a factor in the search for the missing women in cleveland and how the rescuers are being treated. while more states are voting in favor of marriage equality,

could it sink the bipartisan immigration bill? those are topics for our panel of reporters joining me now. it's great to have you all here. again, we will break away if we do see amanda berry come out. i want to give you forewarning on that. cheryl, i want to start with you because you flagged us talking about charles ramsey and whether or not he has gotten just due in the public sphere about how people are reacting to him. i know we have one article talking about people making fun of him. what is your reaction to how people are questioning? >> i think it's of concern that there are people out there particularly on twitter where she is being auto tuned and asking where his missing teeth

are and so forth, making fun of someone who is of a different race or different class in some respects. at the same time, there are rescuers that we are not hearing from. cordero speaks only spanish, who was apparently the first on the scene and interviewed by local media. it speaks to an even darker under class of people who are unseen and unheard even when they perform heroic acts. >> speaking of heroic acts it certainly is in a lot of estimations what ramsey did is heroic. when he hear him recount what he has done he doesn't consider himself in that. >> when they are saying i'm a hero i'm american and i'm a human being. i am just like you. i work for a living. there was a woman in distress. why turn your back on that? >> when asked about whether or not he wants reward money he is

like you can give it to the victims. i like that. >> i like that, too. i think that charles ramsey is american and how we define american is changing in america. when you look at cases like the anthony case, a cleveland serial killer who was also in a poor neighborhood whose 11 murders went on for years, i would like to see law enforcement apply the law equally no matter what neighborhood you live in. >> it is interesting. we look for amanda berry to come out. we want to shift gears and talk about how america is shifting socially speaking. we want to show a big week when it comes to marriage equality with rhode island and now delaware saying they will recognize same sex marriage coming july 1.

the governor in delaware signing this bill into law yesterday. rhode island became the tenth state to allow gay and lesbian couples to wed. this is a political shift. it doesn't seem like it is being recognized in washington, d.c. when we talk about the larger issue of immigration reform. >> it doesn't and the way these two issues are colliding and the way this is being framed is sort of harry reid and democrats are threatening to kind of torpedo the immigration reform bill by inserting these provisions protecting gay couples, as if it is some kind of special interest provision that they are throwing in there. in fact, this is consistent with the national view on this topic. and so there is a push to make sure that gay couples are included in that. i think it is probably more to think of it as republicans finding excuses to hop off the

train on this for their own reasons or just not being able to bring along their very extreme base that is not willing to go along with this. >> when we look down at the state level, illinois was a state that looked like it was going to get marriage equality well before maybe a rhode island or a delaware. there was a big shake up with pat brady who stepped aside because of his support for marriage equality. you point out what is taking place on the national scene and a great piece with senator lahy and what he is able to do. >> the ooriginal proposal talked about for years would create what's called a permanent partnership to allow same sex couples who are banned by the defensive marriage act from sponsoring their foreign partner for purposes of a green card,

would allow them to create what is called a permanent partnership. what senator did and announced an amendment he filed to the immigration bill yesterday would actually simply recognize those legal marriages that same couples are in. and would recognize those people for purposes of green cards which is a much more narrow scope and also something that fits with a lot of the federalism arguments that people like senator rubio, senator portman and senator feinstein has talked about. >> leahy offers the amendment. my thanks to all three of you. thank you. we are going to continue to

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amanda being the woman able to signal to charles ramsey and get help inside that cleveland home where she was being held captive with other women and a 6 year old. police say she will come out and give a brief statement to reporters. we will have that for you and take you to that when it happens. eight months after the u.s. attack in benghazi there is a hearing on the hill and what is expected is blockbuster testimony about to get underway from three so-called whistle blowers who say the story of what happened isn't quite right. he said everyone on the mission believed it was a terror attack from the moment it started. four americans including ambassador died in the attack. on the daily run down today republican senator says there

needs to be accountability. >> there were four individuals involved. they have been reprimanded. they are sitting at home with full pay. americans all around our country is unemployed. officials that there has been no accountability. >> republicans are zeroing in on hillary clinton and her department. clinton testified in congress back in january. >> the fact is we have four dead americans. was it because of a protest or guys out for a walk and decided to go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make? it is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again. >> we have every angle of this story covered with lisa myers and robert gibbs, former white house secretary and also former

state department joel reuben knew ambassador stevens. we are going to start with lisa because i want you to bring us up to speed on who these people are who are testifying, the ones considered whistle blowers and what we are expected to hear. >> all three of these are current state department employees. two of them we will be hearing from for the first time. the key witness is greg hicks. he was the number two man at the embassy of libya. he maintains that the independent review that was done did not tell the full story of what happened that night and claims he has been retaliated against when he has challenged the accuracy of some of the administration's claims. for example, he says the review did not include the fact that he tried in vein to get help from the military for the folks in

benghazi that night. the other person who is testifying is mark thompson. he is a retired marine who has worked for the state department counter terrorism effort since about 1996 and is now the deputy coordinator for operations there. he maintains that he wanted to testify before the review panel and was not allowed to. greg hicks maintains that he is not being allowed to see the classified report by the review panel even though he has plenty of clearances. so what these guys are going to say today is give new information they say about what happened that night and the kind of retaliation they faced. >> i want to ask robert gibbs to join the conversation. we saw when the president was pressed right out of the gates on benghazi and whether or not he felt or knew of the fact that certain members of the state

department were being intimidated. take a listen. >> i am not familiar with this negotiation that anybody has been blocked from testifying. so what i'll do is i will find out what exactly you are referring to. what i have been very clear about from the start is that our job with respect to benghazi has been to find out exactly what happened, to make sure that u.s. embassy -- >> we will get back to this story in one second. we have been notified that amanda berry is arriving on scene at her home in cleveland. this is outside of her sister beth's home. you can see there is a yellow ribbon tied around the tree, balloons and posters left on the porch. amanda berry is coming home.

as you can see there is a heavy police presence on the scene. commander taump -- thomas mccartney came out earlier. there is a huge presence on the scene once everyone realized amanda would be coming home. the police commander said amanda would be coming out to make a brief statement to reporters. kraig melvin is on the scene for us in cleveland. he is on the site where the victims were found outside of the alleged kidnapers' home. has there been a shifting dynamic with people trying to figure out exactly when amanda berry and the other women would be coming home? >> reporter: could you repeat that question for me? >> i was saying has there been a

shift in people trying to learn when the women would be coming safely home? we have amanda coming home but we don't know about m michele knight and gina. >> reporter: they are being held in private locations. here is the thing. all of the media that has gathered here at the house where these three women were being kept, we are now huddled around the televisions here, as well. very anxious to hear what amanda berry is going to be saying and how much she is going to get into precisely how she was captured, how she and the other two women, how they managed to go undetected for so long, as well. we should note here that we were told this morning by a public information officer with the cleveland police department that

they are going to be talking to all three of the young women about the possibility that another young woman named ashley summers who was 14 years old when she went missing, she lived in the same neighborhood so when police talk to the three women that is going to be one of the questions that they asked. do you know anything about this young lady named ashley summers. >> i want to explain to everybody so that they understand where amanda falls into the category of when she was taken. she vanished on april 21st in 2003 after leaving her job at a burger king in cleveland. this was the day before her 17th birthday. she reemerged just the other day after she was able to get charles ramsey's attention and get him to kick in the door so she could climb out with 6-year-old in tow. michele knight went missing in 2002.

gina was last seen in cleveland mid afternoon on april 2 of 2004. what more are we learning aboutt whether charges will be pressed today against the castro brothers? >> reporter: what we are hearing is that the charges will be filed by 6:00 this evening. the charges are expected to include kidnapping and rape. at this point there is some confusion over whether all three of the castro brothers will be charged with kidnapping and rape. there had been talk a few hours ago that ariel castro, the 52-year-old, the alleged master mind, if you will, there was talkt that he might be the only castro brother charged with kidnapping and rape. those formal charges expected to happen sometime before 6:00. we are also expected to get at some point here over the next few hours or the next day, we will expect to get a police report. in that police report there

should be more information about precisely how these three women were captured roughly a decade ago. >> we know that obviously amanda berry has immediate family living in the general vicinity of where she has been held captive for more than a decade. we know gina de jesus has family members who are aware and have been friendly with the castro brothers. what do we know about michele knight's family and how many of them remain in the area? >> reporter: we heard from michele knight's grandmother earlier today but with regards to how many that family is in the area i can't answer that right now. as we are looking at these pictures outside of amanda berry's home, this make shift tribute that has popped up there and the balloons and the flowers and tons of teddy bears there as

well. again, just a few moments from now we are expected to hear from amanda berry. and a lot of folks here are surprised that not only that we are hearing fraup her but hearing from her so soon after she was able to kick out, kick herself to freedom with the help of that neighbor. >> we are waiting for amanda berry to come out and speak. one thing that happened while amanda berry was in captivity is that her own mom had passed away according to reports that the desperate search and the broken heart that she had caused her health to deteriorate. she passed away in 2006. this is beth, amanda's sister. this is beth's home. i think a lot of people will remember images that emerged of amanda in a hospital next to a small child. her sister, beth was next to her in images with big smiles on all of their faces. you can see the tribute, the

balloons, the yellow ribbon tied around the tree there. the welcome home amanda sign. police commander came out earlier in the hour telling reporters to step back and make room for the berry family to return home because she will be giving a brief comment to reporters but then asking for the media to obviously give this young woman and her family as well as her 6-year-old child the privacy and respect that they deserve in coming home and meeting family and loved ones and really being pickled in love and support for a long time to come. we are still waiting on exact word of when we will see gina de jesus or michele knight emerge. they have been in private locations. one thing is you say private locations, they did go to the hospital but were released from hospitals, correct? >> yes. they were all admitted and checked out we are told. i also want to give folks an

idea of where we are in relationship to the picture of amanda berry's house. we are about ten minutes away. that should give folks at home an idea of how small of an area we are talking about where these three girls who all went missing within roughly a year of each other, all went missing within a few mile radius. we are outfront of the house, this two story home that was basically turned into a prison for roughly a decade for these three women. and now amanda berry set to return home, set to talk about that ordeal in just a few moments. it really is all quite striking. >> one thing, too, that was striking was when the commander on the scene was asked about how they had in past times and on tips based on decent tips that

they had received about trying to find out what happened to amanda berry there was a site dug up in the last year they were trying to look for remains of amanda berry's body that could lead police to properly bring her kidnapper to justice. that site proved to be a false lead. the person who reported that to police was later sentenced to 4 1/2 years to jail for making a false report and obstructing justice, as well. it is interesting how the commander said he was so relieved that not so much disappointed but relieved that they did not find evidence that day. >> reporter: you also mentioned a few moments ago you were talking about amanda berry's mother and the fact that she lost her mother a few years ago. michele knight, one of the other three women who were held in this house behind me, michele knight, we found out late yesterday that michele knight had a sister that she didn't

know about. so over the next few days, over the next few hours even and even since they were released yesterday these three women are starting to -- as they start to try to get their lives back on trap and attempt to recapture their lives, they are going to have to deal with large swaths, large chunks of time that they will never be able to get back. >> when you talk about being in this neighborhood now a lot of neighbors coming out saying they did not suspect anything of the behavior of these three men that would lead to any type of behavior such as this. what do the neighbors say now when they think about the house and the movements of the castro brothers because there were reports from a neighbor talking about the senior center behind the home that they had seen funny activity in the backyard. we know of two times that police

went to the house itself. what are neighbors saying? what stories are starting to emerge from this ten-year period that people are saying now that makes sense? >> reporter: we have talked to a number of neighbors this morning and then there are reports from neighbors yesterday, as well. and we have heard of a few of these. there was the one neighbor who recalls at one point seeing a woman and a little girl in a window. there was a report of another neighbor who said at one point he saw a naked woman crawling around in the backyard. a number of neighbors have said that they called 911. we should note here and we have asked this question to several different police sources in several different ways and the police continue to insist that the reports of multiple calls to 911 are false. now, other neighbors in this particular neighborhood will tell you they didn't suspect anything that there was a point

where ariel castro did seem to start keeping to himself a little bit more but there was a neighbor yesterday who talked about barbecuing with ariel castro and how he would see him come and go and they didn't put two and two together. >> i am going to ask you to stand by. we are waiting for amanda berry to give brief moments. clint van zant joins us now. as you are learning about these brothers, it is striking -- we want to go ahead. this is the police commander speaking again. >> calling the shots right now. she is inside. in 15 minutes she sogoing to be coming out of the home and she will be making a statement to us here. it will be the first words that

she has spoken publicly aside from the 911 call that we heard her voice on. so again he is kind of going over the ground rules here. we want to give her plenty of room and make sure that she is comfortable making this statement is something that she wanted to do. she wanted to speak out to us today. so we are going to respect her wishes and respect the wishes. >> a local reporter there is also talking and trying to help transmit his sound exactly what he is saying. amanda berry is going to come out at the top of the hour and speak to local reporters and those on the scene that have gathered to support and show her love as she returns now. i was asking you before we dipped in right there, as more information is emerging about the brothers themselves, is it surprising to you as a former fbi profiler that these people were allowed to operate for as long as they were? >> i don't think it is

necessarily. you have individuals who are apparently alleged to be stone cold psychopaths. >> i hear you have new information for us, craig? >> reporter: we are starting to learn new details here. just told a short time ago that for ten years the three women did not see an adult according to initial interviews. according to police they did not see any adults. also found out a few moments ago according to police sources familiar with the investigation the victims have told them of multiple pregnancies, forcible rapes, miscarriages. they are starting to provide details on the conditions in which they were being kept. so, again, all of this starting to come out based on the initial

conversations between the police, between the federal investigators and the three women. >> and is there anymore information -- you are talking about the conditions they were kept in. is there any information as to how amanda berry was able to get close enough to the front door? have we learned more information about that? >> don't have those details right now but we are hearing that that information should be in a police report and that police report is expected to be released a little later today. as it was reported earlier we do know that there were chains found inside, that there were ties, that there were ropes found inside. so you take all of those things together and it paints a pretty awful picture. >> didn't see as you are saying for ten years any other adults outside of the alleged castro brother's kidnappers? >> according to police sources

based on their initial interviews with the three victims for a decade amanda berry, gina de jesus and michele knightmichele knight did not see any adults. >> craig, i'm going to ask you to stand by. we're waiting for amanda berry. kline van zandt, as you're hearing this information, and we were talking about how these brothers operated, again i think a lot of people look at the family, they didn't suspect anything. the neighbors saying they didn't suspect anything action didn't even know that ariel castro was truly living in that home. what more are you hoping we get out of this police report to help put some of the thinks missing blanks together. >> as we try to understand the personality types, what would motivate someone like this, there's a strong possibility that at least one of the suspects is going to turn out to be, what, a profilers or

psychiatrist would call a sexual sadist, someone not only capable of kidnapping, but as we know many times kidnapped children are assaulted and murdered, but in the case of a sexual sadist, they like to hold on to the victim. it's terrible to talk about, thomas, about you they like torture, they like bondage and restraints. it goes along with what the police are talking about now, with the chains, with the ropes and other things that were found inside the house that were used to tie these victims up over this past deck indicate. this is totally consistent. so we may well have one primary individual, perhaps the alleged suspect who had access to the house more often, but we're also told by witnesses and others that -- >> clint, i'm going to ask you to stand by. the local reporter was able to hear what the people that came out of the house just said. here comes amanda. this is her sister beth that's

coming out first. >> right here. >> back it up. >> that's it. stop. back it up. move back. >> back up. >> quiet, pliz. >> we appreciate all that -- -- thank you. >> that's it.

>> this is her sister. we missed the whole thing. we were listening to beth, amanda berry's sister, who just came out and gave brief remarks to reporters. i'm assuming that amanda berry is not going to be coming out as the commander had told us earlier, that amanda would be making brief remarks through this hour, but beth just came out thanking everybody for their love and support. it was a little hard to hear, but asking everyone to -- let's listen into the local reporter. she has a better idea. >> she said that amanda would not be making a statement at this time, but instead her

sister beth would be coming out to address the media. they did ask you to stand back, so we don't know exactly what she said. unfortunately we did miss that part, but you can see it was greeted or received with a bunch of cheering and applause by people who waited for this moment for them to come out, and to hear what they had to say, but amanda deciding today would not be the day she made a statement. as you can imagine, from what you see, this has to be overwhelming for anybody. we're talking about somebody who just spent ten years in captivity locked away. so imagine coming home and all of these emotions, and finally having a safe place to come home to and bring her daughter here. and now, you know -- i can very easily see why she could have been overwhelmed, why she wanted to wait another day. that's really what all this is about. we are not going to rush amanda. if and when she wants to say something to us, she will. we're told she will do so

through her sister beth, but in the meantime, this is what we have going on here at the scene right now. of course we're going to continue to see here and bring you any developments that come from here on west 129th street. back to you. lot record there on the scene. we had been told that amanda would be making a brief statement, but obviously beth decided or family members decided to send beth out to address the massive amount of reporters, as you have seen, that descended on beth, so it's probably a good idea that amanda berry didn't come out, because beth berry was descended upon to -- asking reporters to respect their privacy, and

thanks everybody for their love and support. as our craig melvin was on the scene, on the street, where the castro brothers allegedly held them for all these years, the police record is say they didn't see any adults for ten year. craig, as we think now about the fact that they didn't see adults for ten year and amanda berry is now overwhelmed by the amount of people, reporters, neighbors and loved ones who have coupled to cheer her safe return home, this has to be eye motionally overwhelming, and still her sister beth came out to address the cameras, not amanda. >> reporter: we saw her wipe her eyes as well, thomas, obviously overcome by emotion. it's been a long time since i've seen a crush of cameras and reporters like that. so you have to think for a young lady who has not seen another adult outside the house for

roughly a decade, just the sheer sight of that may have been enough to dissuade her from making that statement that we thought she was going to be making but again we are watching formal charges, kidnapping, rape, these are the two primary charges that we are expecting to hear more about. at this point we don't know whether all three of the castro brothers will be charged with kidnapping and rape, but we do expect that at least 52-year-old ariel castro will be charged with kidnapping and rape. we're also told when the formal charges come there will be another news conference and hopefully they'll fill in some of the numerous gaps here in cleveland. but a short time ago, police sources familiar with the investigation said that after a

conversation -- again, this is based on initial conversations with the three women, that they've been told about multiple pregnancies, forcible rapes, miscarriages, details of the conditions in which they had been kept inside the two-story house behind me as well. so, again, we are expecting the investigators to continue these conversations over the next few days. we're also told -- and this was according to a p.i.o., one of the police spokespeople earlier this morning, told nbc news that they are going to be talking to the three women, amanda betterry, gina dejesus, and michelle knight, about a young lady named ashley summers. she sways 14 when she went missing. ashley summers lived in the same area, so again investigators at this point it's important to know there's no definitive link, but they do want to talk to the three women about ashley summers

as well. >> she would be in that age range of interest to the alleged kidnappeders. clint, real quickly, as we've been hearing, the fact that these women haven't seen adults for ten years, what is the immediate reaction of a survivor of this to come home, get integrated and then flooded with this kind of attention. >> this is lie a p.o.w. being released from the hanoi hilton or something like that. i've seen situations where the victim in this case walks around, you touch things in the house. remember that amanda was 16 years old when she was kidnapped. she's in and out 26. she has lost ten years of her life. this is bringing probably back a number of memories. everything that was taken from her, including ten years of her life, she could get those ten

years back, but now she's returning to a house. she has to pick up life where she was ten years ago. now she has a child, now she has a whole other story to relive. >> these young girls interrupted at such a vital time in their lives, now coming back safely, hopefully the immediatia again will respect the wishes of the berry family, to please respect their privacies. thank you so much. that will do it for me today. i'm going to hand you over to alex wagner, who will pick up the hour with, "now." say manda berry, one of the three women in cleveland held as a captive, has just returned home. meanwhile, we were get new disturbing details emerging in the case regarding the three women in cleveland who were held as captives, today police are planning to question and could officially charge the three brothers suspected of kidnapping and raping their victims. the three girls all disappeared within a five-block radius and allegedly held captive just three