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could have used to hold one or brothers at the time. are the girls being completely frank? are they afraid of the brothers? obviously they were afraid of the one guy for ten years. i think there's a lot more chapters in this book. again, the physical evidence, the evidence teams are still in the house. they are going to have to process that and that could take months. >> cleinton, you're the best. this is "hardball" now and thanks for being with us. we'll have an entirely new edition and the republican's efforts to blame obama and hillary clinton for this thing called benghazi. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, home at last in an amazing and emotional scene today, two of the freed women came home. amanda berry arrived at the
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house to flowers, balloons, and cheers. her sister fought back tears. >> we appreciate all you have done for us throughout the past ten years. please respect our privacy until we are ready to make our statements and thank you. it was a gripping and deeply moving scene when gina day dejesus spoke about never giving up. >> i want to thank everybody that believed even when i said she was alive and believed and i want to thank them. even the ones that doubted, i still want to thank them the most. because they are the ones that made me stronger, the ones that made me feel the most that my daughter was out there.
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>> but as the family's celebrated the return of their loved ones, we're also learning details of what happened inside the house of and this was stunning. they never left the property in ten years. they were allowed outside only two times. the first attempted escape was monday when amanda got out. police report the house was in disarray and the fbi took over 200 items from the home. moments ago, the cleveland police read the charges. >> i just signed criminal complaints charging ariel castro. >> four kidnapped victims are gina, amanda, michelle, and the young child. and the victims of the rape are gina, amanda, and michelle.
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>> ten years inside the house. what an amazing story. joining me now live from the scene is msnbc's craig melvin. craig? >> craig, tell us what you can tell -- what have we learned today? it's been an eventful day. what have we learned down there today? >> reporter: we've been sifting through this police report. it's about a dozen pages, reverend al. i'm going to read a snippet from this for our viewers at home. this details what was going on inside the two-story house of horrors behind me for the past decade. this is based on the three initial conversations with the women being held captive as told to police earlier today. they told us how the arrested male ariel castro was able to get them into his vehicle initially. victim one, michelle, said that she was in the area of west
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106th street when ariel offered her a ride home and took her to his house. amanda berry walking home from the burger king where she worked on west 110th street and lorraine. that's when ariel offered her a ride home. this is after he said that his son worked at the same burger king and, of course, keep in mind he does not have a son. gina dejesus, he used his daughter to lure gina into the car. >> wow. >> so he offered rides to all three of the women to get all three of the young girls to come back to the house. michelle at one point during the initial conversation with police told police that at least five times she was pregnant with the arrested male ariel and when he found out that she was pregnant, she stated that he would make
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her abort the baby. she then stated that he starved her for at least two weeks, then repeatedly punched her in the stomach until she miscarried. >> this is all in the police report, craig? >> reporter: it's all in the police report and reverend al, you should know and your viewers should know that we are not sharing because they are perhaps too graphic for cable news in the evening around dinnertime. it paints a chillingly disturbing picture of what was happening behind me. >> craig, you're telling me that one of the victims says she was pregnant five times, yet he would punch her to miscarriage the baby, they never were even brought out to have abort the baby, there was no medical attention, he did all of this himself and they never left the house, according to this police
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report? >>. >> reporter: according to the report. in fact, none of the three women have seen a doctor in the decade. the 6-year-old, the little girl -- we'll talk about that in a second, who was born at the house, she's never seen a doctor. at one point shortly after her birth she was in some sort of distress, medical distress. according to the police report, that is when the 52-year-old said, quote, if the baby dies, i'll kill you. michelle then stated that the child -- the child's name, stopped breathing at one point, she breathed into her child's mouth to keep her alive. now, the baby, by the way -- go ahead. >> wow. you're telling me, even the child was born there with no medical attention, she went through a delivery with no medical attention and threatened to kill her, the mother, if the
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child died and when the child stopped breathing she breathed into the child to keep the child alive all in the house, never any medical attention, never brought anyone out even an assumed name to the hospital or anything in that nature, according to the police report? >> reporter: according to the police report, no. the women haven't seen a doctor, the baby hasn't seen a doctor. michelle actually delivered amanda's baby in the house in a plastic baby pool so it would be easier to clean up. >> now, am i hearing you right, craig, that you say he used his own daughter to lure one of them into the car and to take them captive? >> reporter: yes. according to the report, he used his own daughter to lure gina into his car. gina is the same young girl that went to the same school -- went to the same school as his
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daughter. he few this family. >> wow. >> reporter: in fact, we talked to a gentleman earlier that was with the city of cleveland at the time and told us the 54-year-old who has been charged here, at one point he was helping look for the missing girls. he was part of the search party. >> of girls that he had in fact abducted. let's bring in noted criminologist casey jordan. is there any way to explain a mind that can do such a thing? >> not in the terms that you and i can understand it. as more details come out, we'll understand the depth of this. we learned the two brothers who were initially arrested have been released. they happened to be with him when he was arrested but it looks like he acted 100% alone over the past 11 years. >> how can one man hold three
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women in three different rooms for ten years? >> well, two things, physical isolation and social isolation as well as a certain amount of psychological isolation from his family. remember, almost nobody ever went into the house. we only have a few reports that people went in and never beyond the living room. most important would be the way that the women were treated when initially abducted, probably beaten, raped so that even if they were in the house, they would be so brainwashed that even if they heard a noise upstairs or thought there were visitors, they would be in fear for their lives and their family's life and never cry out. this is the sort of isolation that would lead them to be prisoners in their mind, not just physically chained to the basement. >> just a minute. craig, there's activity i'm hearing at the house?
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>> reporter: yes, reverend. i'm going to step out of the way. first of all, this first house -- this is new to us today. until today we had not seen members of the fbi evidence team going into this house. but you can see white clean suits, as they are called, going into that house. there's also been a canine walking around the house as well. we are still at this point trying to figure out how this house is connected to the investigation. we did hear during the news conference, law enforcement did say that this is a continuation of the search to secure evidence but it's that third house down there, that white house, that's the primary house. that is where castro allegedly kept those three women. we have seen over the past 30 minutes members of the fbi evidence team actually taking bags of evidence from the house. that's the first time that we've seen that today. again, it appears as though the investigation here at the scene
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is also ongoing. >> now, let's bring in cleveland's city councilman brian cummings. councilman, you've actually been with the -- some of the family today as the victims have been coming home? >> yes, myself was at the dejesus' family home when she arrived. a huge welcome home from the community and her family. >> what was it like there? this is unimaginable i'm sure to those in the neighborhood and to the family members. try to describe as best you can the mood and the feeling there with the people that are family and friends and neighbors of this young lady missing ten years. >> it was incredible. first of all, you know, both the
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families have been having vigils during this ten-year period. so there's a lot of community members, police for the second district here, there's been a lot of people involved in supporting the family for this whole decade. so they were all there today. probably over 200 people there today. it was very emotional. it was a little chaotic. we're dealing with highly charged emotions. we're dealing with the family members and tried to keep it at a minimum in terms of who had contact with gina. i did not speak with her. we were being very respectful of that and family members gave some speeches to the community as we did as well. but very emotional, as you can imagine. >> from the family members, did you develop any kind of profile of the type of person gina was before all of this? what could you share with our viewers about gina or family
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members that you talked to or what you learned about gina from them. >> well, obviously very head strong and strong woman. even when she was abducted, you know, the reports at the time from the family, obviously other than disbelief was that she was a very strong-willed young woman and i don't think the ten years has diminished that. that's strengthened her. obviously they needed that. all of these women feeded that to get through this ordeal. it's really quite unbelievable. that aspect of inner strength and there's a lot of faith within this community as well. their prayers have been answered. they are just ecstatic. family members have had growing concern about what the process from this point on is, the physical and the mental duress that they were held under, what it's going to take for them to overcome that. but they are very confident in
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the support that they've received from the community and i think they feel that they are going to be okay with the help of the community. >> now, let me come back to you, stacy -- casey, i'm sorry. casey jordan. the conditions in the house, listen to this. the police chief and others telling us about the conditions in the house. listen to this. >> confirmation that they were bound and there were chains and ropes in the home. >> were these women ever allowed outdoors, to your knowledge? >> very rarely. they were released out in the backyard once in a while. >> chains, ropes. >> yes. >> very rarely let out of the house. maybe in the backyard once in a while. >> which is why everybody is so shocked that no one in the surrounding area, none of the neighbors could know about this. but even the reports from neighbors saw the little girl playing in the backyard.
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ariel castro said, this is my girlfriend's daughter. nothing that would really raise suspicion to the point of calling police. people have relatives over, people have family over. there was nothing noticed. as far as we know, no neighbors have reported screams on the outside. again, it's the psychological syndrome, the stockholm syndrome. what would make that one young woman on monday break from that psychological bond. did she wake up and say, i've got to get out of here? >> that is amazing that after all of this stockholm syndrome, she reached out and someone was there, i don't care what they say about him, that helped her do that and was able to assist in this escape. >> yeah. >> it's an amazing store zee it
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story. >> it is. and people will get involved. to think that charles ramsey and angel cordora helped her out. it could have gone another way if nobody responded to her screams. >> craig, you were at the press conference today. tell us about the aspect that we heard around this. >> you know, one of the things that i think was most interesting out of that news conference, reverend al, is that the three castro brothers who were charged, ariel castro, the ring leader, the mastermind, if you will, and then his two brothers, onil and pedro castro, initially the thinking was that all three of them would be charged with rape and kidnapping. we found out at the news conference -- at the beginning in fact -- that it would just be the 52-year-old castro. it would just be ariel castro
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charged with kidnapping and rape and the other two would not be charged with anything. there's misdemeanor bench warrants that they are going to take up tomorrow. what you have here, according to the police, you have in addition to the three women living in that house, two brothers, at least according to the police, had no idea what was going on and that is something that hopefully over the next few days we start to hear a little bit more about precisely how that was something that was able to happen. >> councilman, how does one understand that this could go for ten years, with police and others, how is this explainable to the average person watching this? >> well, frankly i don't know if it is. i will tell you a little bit about the physical site, though, that the backyard of this property actually backs out to a commercial property. so for those asking why nobody would have seen the backyard, it
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backs out to a commercial parking lot. so you don't have a lot of physical activity out there with people. also, the property just to the west of the house, as we saw in the shot, would be that greenhouse. that property and the property next to it is vacant. now, i took over this ward three years ago and we inventoried those properties. in that three-years that i've been in this ward, these properties are on our inventory but the back of the property and west side of the property were not in view to anyone. and that could potentially explain the unique circumstances relative to no one being able to really catch this. >> can i jump in? i have a quick question for the councilman. is that okay? >> go ahead. >> reporter: really quickly, how
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can we explain the disconnect from what we're hearing from the neighbors and what the police are saying about 911 calls made to police? i'm sure you've heard the disconnect. a number of neighbors have said i did see something and said something. i picked up the phone and called the cops. one neighbor said the cops came, bc banged on the door and left. >> so many people when they call 911, when they call the general dispatch number, too often they think it's a one-way call and it's done. so people don't follow up. frankly, part of the challenge is that if they don't see a cop car come after they've called, a lot of times -- and we have over 30-plus neighborhood groups. if the police car -- if you don't view a police car coming for a complaint, you have every ability to dispatch and confirm, what's going on? where are you? >> reporter: so you're saying it's a good chance neighbors may have called the police. >> neighbors may have called the
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police and police may have responded and that is something that we work on all the time relative to the relationship. too often when someone calls the police, they think it's a one-way call. this is a problem we deal with consistently, calls about loud noise, parties, abusive issues and the police don't respond within ten minutes, half an hour. >> we'll be following this because, casey, police are saying they didn't get a lot of these calls. a lot of this we're going to have to sort through. craig melvin, brian cummings, casey jordan, thank you for joining us tonight. more out of cleveland when we come back. ♪
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among the biggest mysteries in the kidnapping in cleveland, why did it take a decade to find these women? were there missed opportunities? there's an avalanche of questions mounting. we've heard accounts from neighbors saying they saw suspicious activity at suspect ariel castro's home. >> last july, another neighbor noticed another disturbing site there. >> my granddaughter told me about the naked lady crawling on her hands and knees in the backyard. >> she said she called the police but they never came. >> moments ago, the director of cleveland's public safety
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responded. >> as a result of the evidence that's been obtained thus far, the statements from the suspect and the victims, there is no evidence to indicate that any of them were ever outside in the yard in chains without clothing for any other matter. that indicates that in the last decade think only were allowed outside of the home on two separate occasions. >> joining many he now is israel who lived down the house from where the women were held. thank you for coming on the show tonight. >> you're very welcome. >> you say that your sister saw
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something suspicious in 2011 that made you call the police. what did she say? >> well, she come home from work and says that she seen a girl holding a baby in her arms asking for help. she came over and was shaking and terrified. i went to the house and i couldn't see because there was boards. i came back home and called the police. they said they would send a car when they could. a cruiser pounds on the door really hard, at least 20 times. maybe five minutes. there was to response, the officer got back in their car and went on their way. >> so you called the police, the poli police came, a cruiser eventually came, pounded on the door and went away. you're absolutely positive? because police say they have no record of this.
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>> i'm absolutely positive. we're not crooks. don't get me wrong, all cops aren't bad and you've got the good ones and bad ones. >> there's no doubt in your mind that something was going on there? >> yes, sir. that's right. two, three times, you know what i'm saying, and only one time come by. it's like, you think you know your neighbor and you really don't. >> joining me is congresswoman margaret fudge. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> the police deny neighbors made these calls.
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do you have a concern over how this investigation played out over ten years? >> certainly i am concerned. there are many, many questions that need to be answered. but the federal justice department is in cleveland as we speak, looking at the practices, looking at wa what has been going on for a very long time. this department has had excessive abuses and handling of prisoners and defendants. we have a sewell case where it took how long to find that this man who killed 11 women was hiding and the missing persons cases are not given the attention it should, especially as it relates to women who live
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in poor neighborhoods. there are many, many questions left to be answered. >> you brought up about poor neighborhoods. the question of class and nationality has certainly been raised by some here. do you think that has anything to do with how police may have been given priority or not? would they have done the same in a more wealthy neighborhood? >> well, i certainly can't answer that question 100% positive but i would suggest to you that there is less attention given in poor neighborhoods. those women, even though missing persons reports many of them lived on the streets, families were poor, it was not a top priority. you look at the young woman michelle who was in this very house where these three young women were miraculously saved where her family said she was a
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missing person but the police said to her, don't worry about her, she just walked away from you. >> yeah. >> how many people would believe that their own family members walk away. had she been in another neighborhood, it is my belief that they would have handled it much differently. >> now, when you say just walked away, they, in effect, tried to argue with the family that she was a run away and had not been abducted when in effect we find out that she had been abducted. those are the kinds of things that we're hearing from people in cleveland who disturb them on how the police handled some of this. >> and the other thing you have to think about, reverend al, is that this house was in a neighborhood with boarded up homes, it was in a poor neighborhood. so it was easy for them to ignore what may have been going on but in addition to that, when you have lots of vacant houses,
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you don't have people looking at what their neighbors are doing. you don't have people who see the comings and goings of people because people are trying to make it, trying to take care of themselves. there's no sense of neighborhood either. if, in fact, the neighbors did call the police and did not respond appropriately, there's going to be a high price to pay. >> congresswoman marcia fudge, thank you for your time. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> we'll be right back. yesterday, just flaunting it? and did you see the magic eraser clean up that crazy kitchen mess? it was like super dirty, super clean. how? wish i hadn't. [ sniffs ] what's that amazing smell? it's mr. clean with the amazing scent of gain. wow! you know, if i had a team, you'd be on it. [ gasps ] our mascot could be a cleanosarus rex. you're off the team. [ male announcer ] dirt and grime have nowhere to hide with the mr. clean clean team on your side. ♪
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today the republican smear machine was in high gear with another hearing on the deadly attack on our consulate in benghazi. republicans don't care that an independent review board has already looked into that tragedy that left four state department officials dead. over at fox, this was the big story of the day. >> here we go, everybody. good morning. this could be the day we get answers. >> and we begin with this fox news alert. a brand-new hearing on the benghazi terror attack. >> fox news alert out of washington where the several for truth about the benghazi terror attack is now under way. >> fox news alert? all spent all the time in the land of conservative fairytales.
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benghazi is that pot at the end of the rainbow. it's a chance to attack president obama while also attacking a potential front-runner in 2016. >> do you expect secretary clinton to have read or briefed that cable? >> must be signed off by the secretary of state. >> at 2:00 a.m., you had a conversation with secretary clinton? >> this has nothing to do with the facts or the truth. republicans and their allies at fox are just interested in distorting the president's record on terror and hiding their own. today we learn that former vice president dick cheney just made a stunning comment about the benghazi attacks, which happened on september 11th, 2012. cheney said, "when we were there on our watch, we were always ready on 9/11, on the
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anniversary." they were always ready on 9/11, the anniversary? what about 9/11, the actual day? were they ready then? republicans are busy trying to exploit this most recent tragedy but they need to remember the truth about the other. joining me now is washington, d.c., delegate, eleanor holmes and joy reid. thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend al. >> congresswoman, what's your take on what you heard from dick cheney in light of everything from republicans today. >> i would say he ought not mention ni9/11. because when 9/11 was attacked, you will note the democrats did not rush in to get behind fresh blood. they tried to find out what we could do to make the next attack from happening. yes, we wanted a review of what
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happened but we didn't spend our time, perhaps we should have spent more time trying to find out why they weren't prepared for 9/11. reverend al, do understand that nobody on our committee is given a pass to the administration and not having been better prepared but it's not as if we didn't happen to have a professional report by a veteran of the state department, career official, and a former chief of staff. that was a scathing report. what are we doing back here? we had benghazi one. that was with susan rice. now we have a benghazi with hillary clinton? >> is there anything that justifies this other than some political posturing and, as you
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say now, trying to make hillary clinton the main target? >> reverend al, the buildup to this hearing, almost a full week's buildup for while i thought they would have trailers before we got there and then what's the big deal here? i dare anybody who covered that hearing to tell me what he heard. for example, mr. hicks, who was not on the ground, not in benghazi but in tripoli said he was stunned to hear the so-called talking points from susan rice that said that it looked like it was a spillover from all of the -- all of the concerns that had been bubbling over about attacks on muslims and so forth, verbal attacks on muslims. he was stunned. well, he may have been stunned
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but general petraeus, national security adviser all looked at those talking points. they, in fact, extracted the words al qaeda, the security adviser said, or general petraeus said because they did not want to give away how they were doing the investigation. >> yeah. >> but everything else was left the way it was. i have to tell you, reverend al, i didn't learn anything new and it certainly betrayed the notion of this big buildup that we would have this colossal revelation that very haven't had before. >> conservative are still trying to build up benghazi into watergate. something that they started doing almost immediately. listen to this. >> as bad as watergate was, because it broke the trust between the president and the people, no one died.
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this is more serious because four americans did in fact die. >> somebody the other day said to me, this is as bad as water game. well, nobody died in watergate. >> this is an administration that is practicing watergate. >> i mean, watergate? i mean, are they serious? >> by the way, that third guy who talked rudy giuliani moved the command center for anti-terrorism into the world trade center. talk about intelligence. there isn't a lot to go around. bin laden determined to attack inside the united states. there was a huge, massive intelligence and has congressman norton made the point, when those failures happened, the response is to investigate it and find out where the failures were. think about what the republicans are alleging at the end of the
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day. they are alleging and what really is 9/11 trutherism. they are saying that the white house and our pentagon and our state department refused to dispatch military protection for our own diplomats, let them die on purpose, did it on purpose, deliberately refused to put operation forces in there because they knew al qaeda was attacking our compound in realtime and didn't want that to hurt the re-election. it is so crazy that is on the level of not letting trutherism where people say that george w. bush deliberately allowed 9/11. that's what they are saying. it's a squirrelish charge. this is republicans desperately looking for a scandal in what has been a scandal-free administration. there was a scrambling response to an attack coming, when a series of attacks were happening because of the muslim video.
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>> at the same time there were things going on all over the world. >> so you can investigate it. but to go to a 9/11 truther, this is alex jones territory. this is unbecoming of congress. >> the fact is that this allegation, not only was it some out in fantasy island, watergate was initiated by those involved. this was not based on some foreign power or individuals making a move. it is outrageous to bring watergate up even in the same sentence when there are allegations. >> of course it is. and the notion of, quote, coverup, is based upon the uncertainty with the intelligent officials as to whether there is a terror attack. ever is delicately, the president was on the air. how is that a coverup? >> congressman, joy reid, thank
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you both for your time. >> always a pleasure. ahead, why rush limbaugh may be hopping mad today. he's in a huge battle with his boss and he may come out losing. and also hope and heroism in cleveland. the redemption of charles ramsey. stay with us. ♪ [ agent smith ] i've found software that intrigues me. it appears it's an agent of good. ♪ [ agent smith ] ge software connects patients to nurses to the right machines while dramatically reducing waiting time. [ telephone ringing ] now a waiting room is just a room. [ static warbles ]
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did rush limbaugh cross the company that owed his company millions of dollars? $2.24 million in losses this year alone and said, quote, "we've had a tough go of it the last year. the facts are indisputable regarding the impact certain things have had on ad dollars." the certain things he was referring to are those infamous comments by rush limbaugh last year. >> what does it say about the
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college coed susan fluke who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says she must be paid to have sex. what does that make her? it makes her a slut, right? it makes her a prostitute. >> after that, advertisers fled and now a new report says that 48 of the 50 top advertisers refuse to include rush limbaugh in their commercial bias. so how bad is the trouble for the brush? the boss of the republican party? joining me now is joe madison. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks, reverend. >> is this the beginning of the end for rush limbaugh? >> well, it certainly says it is consumer-driven and the number one consumer, particularly advertisers that put on radio
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are women. you just simply can't insult an entire population in this country and not expect a backlash. number two -- >> it's interesting you said that. before you get to number two. because let me play for you what rush said his advertising troubles come from. you'd be interested in this. >> fox has been number one for a long, long time. and they still weren't getting a majority of the immediamedia bu because they are young women fresh out of college who hate conservatism. these are things that we have to fight this battle every day anyway because these little jerks are out there trying to scare advertisers still goes on. >> little liberal women snibbling jerks is what he calls them. >> well, can you imagine how
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many conservative women use birth control? i mean, come on, rush. think about this. number two, i mean, first off, number one, conservative women use birth control. let's just face that. number two, when a president or a ceo of a company as large as cumulus talks to investors, people understand that is serious. >> yeah, he's talking about investors. >> these are investors and you have to be factual. that means that they have researched this. so your question is, is it the beginning of the end? i think that you will not only see more advertisers leaving but, get this, even nonprofit organizations that have public service announcements, these are -- this is free time. they don't want even free time on the limbaugh shows.
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>> well, let me tell you, joe, he is not helping his cause any. he's even found a way to connect the tragedy in ohio to both welfare and president obama. listen to this. >> hawaii 5-0s premise last night was kidnapped girls. held until they were 18 and then let go or killed. well, always killed. by a couple doing it for the welfare benefits. now, i don't know -- i couldn't help but make the connection. three brothers but not related to the three women have been arrested in cleveland, which voted obama. not that that's got anything to do with anything. >> i'm sure advertisers loved being identified with that kind of insanity.
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>> you see, insanity. and we don't mean it professionally because neither of us are psychiatrists but -- >> the rhetoric is insane. >> the rhetoric, absolute -- the rhetoric is definitely insane. and think about this. there has been absolutely no one, no one that in all of broadcasting that has made that kind of connection. it is absolute irresponsible. you're getting ready to talk about a man who was a hero, who cares whether he was a republican, a democrat, rush can't even substantiate these accusations that he's making t is total irresponsibility and, quite honestly, i think it's all caught up with him. he has insulted the folks in boston, he has now insulted these people who are gone -- the families and the folks who have gone through this tragedy and then he then tries to now drag
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the president into it -- >> and welfare. >> and welfare. so it's always -- >> always going there. double antondra and he's a master at it but i think it's catching up with him. >> joe madison, thank you for your time tonight. >> how the man next door became a hero. the story of charles ramsey is next. [ mom ] with my little girl, every food is finger food. so i can't afford to have germy surfaces. but a fresh sheet of bounty duratowel leaves this surface cleaner than a germy dishcloth.
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could call through there. he can't open the door completely. she had to climb through the bottom. >> charles ramsey is a hero, no doubt about it. but today the smoke and gun website reports that mr. ramsey is a convicted felon with a history of domestic violence, ending about a decade ago. nbc has not confirmed that but we do know that mr. ramsey, what he did do this day, this week. we don't know what he did years ago but we know what dethis week. we know what he did when he became famous for doing the right thing. >> do you have any idea of the attention you're getting around the world. >> i don't even want it nor looking for it, bro. that's why they keep saying i'm a hero, let me tell you, i'm american, i'm a human being. i'm just like you. i work for a living. there was a woman in distress. so why turn your back on that? my father would have whooped the
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