station. she said she would rather face death. >> i believe death is the ultimate freedom so i would rather have my freedom as soon as i can get it. >> after that interview, the maricopa county sheriff's office put her on suicide watch and prevented her from doing any more interviews until sentencing is complete. that process could last up to a month. diana has been following the trial for us. she is in phoenix. let me talk before we get to today's event. this interview with jodi arias, this again, right after she learned that she was convicted of first-degree murder. she did this interview. no emotion. and even talked about the fact that her family has a history of people living a long time. so the thought of her spending many, many years behind bars was more than she could handle at this point. >> reporter: absolutely. let me tell you that interview took her attorneys and her family by surprise. no one knew she was planning to speak to anybody following that

verdict. and you're absolutely right. she really opened up during that interview. she talked about she is healthy, she doesn't smoke. longevity runs in her family. the worst thing she can remember is living the rest of her life in prison and she said she would rather be put to death than have to live the rest of her life in prison. it was a survived jodi that we haven't heard from before. very open. very calm. the part that i found the most unsettling was when she said she hopes that travis alexander's family can finally find some sense of peace and move on with their lives. it felt very unsettling to hear her say this moments after she was convicted of killing him. so definitely a very chilling interview. >> three women on death row in arizona. no woman has been executed in 83 years. this is a complex process that we're beginning this death penalty phase of the trial here. but what has been the reaction, at least from the people you've been talking to. i know you followed this extensively as well on social media. do you get the sense that people

feel the death penalty is the necessary next step? >> i put that question out there on twitter last night wondering what public opinion was. overwhelmingly, many, many people saying that they felt she deserved a death sentence. as you mentioned, this is a very complex process. what will happen today is that the prosecutor has to convince the jury that jodi arias's crime was cruel. that's the aggravating factor that they need to agree on for them to proceed with the death penalty. if they decide it wasn't cruel, she will get life in prison or life in prison with the possibility of parole after 25 years. if they do agree it was cruel, then the defense gets to put on witnesses on the stand to talk about her character. you can expect to hear from jodi's parents. maybe her other family members and friends about her character. maybe some expert testimony about her mental state. anything she's going through right now. that process could take many, many weeks. speaking of that one woman that was executed here in arizona, that took place in 1930. it was ava doing an who was

convicted of murdering her former employer and she was put to death by hanging. not since then has arizona executed a woman and there are only three women on death row. >> has travis alexander's family, have they spoken out as to what they would like to see happen? do they want her with life in prison or would they like to see her put to death? >> they're not saying much at this time. their attorney put out a statement saying they were happy with the verdict. they felt it was right. they wanted their privacy right now and they're going to wait and hold all comment until after sentencing. many people i spoke to here are close to the family. they say they haven't talked to him about that sort of thing. they said right now they wanted justice for travis alexander and that's what they got. it will be a while before we hear from the family. >> thank you very much. great reporting today. we appreciate it. joining me now, the form he prosecutor and legal analyst, star jones. you've been glued to this trial from the very beginning. you were not surprised yesterday, were you?

>> not in the least bit. as you look at the evidence, it was overwhelming evidence of guilt. from the 27 stab wounds to the severed throat to the gunshot. and the jury obviously rejected the self-defense claims as well as the multiple mental defenses they tried to put in. jodi arias lied from day one. and she continued to lie up and through last night when she gave that interview. i do not expect the jury will give leniency. >> this new phase, is pretty complicated. this could go on for another month here. >> this is actually a two-part penalty phase. the first phase is called the aggravation phase where there must be a finding of aggravation. as the report he just said. you must find that this particular murder was especially cruel or heinous or depraved. >> let me pause you there. cruel, heinous or depraved. stabbed 27 times. his throat was slit. he was shot. exhibit a. >> i think the aggravating factors pretty much speak for itself.

that will be a given. that the jury can find aggravation. if they did not, it must be unanimous. if they did not, they would bring in another jury. >> so this has to be a unanimous decision. >> absolutely. one way or the other. if they don't find aggravation and the judge takes over for sentencing, life or life with possible of parole. if they do find aggravation, we move to the actual penalty phase. and that's when you're going to hear evidence from both sides. the victim's family will get a chance to do a vmi impact statement and talk about how horrific this has been in their lives and their community. then i would expect to hear some evidence of jodi arias's background. a little more about how she grew up. was there any abuse in her family. she is going to need to beg for her life am i would expect to see her on the witness stand again. >> is she able, are her attorneys able to still present this self-defense, last night in that bizarre interview right after the verdict she said she hoped the family would find some

peace with her conviction and she talked about not being so surprised but thought she would get a lesser conviction. not first-degree murder. can they bring up in this penalty phase that she maintains it was self-defense? >> it is not irrelevant. it is just not going to be effective. when you're in the penalty phase, the only true mitigation other than your background and you've been abused yourself, is that you show actual remorse. so it's very difficult to make a vibrant self-defense claim while you're showing remorse. and nothing has come out throughout this whole case that would make you think she shows remorse. >> including that interview. >> including that interview. and all of that is open for the prosecution. the prosecution decides, now, listen, you see what you got right here. this is what you had just hours after you told her you did not believe her. she didn't talk about travis alexander. she talked about herself. she talked about what it would do to her. that she wouldn't want to live.

she would want to be free. she never showed any compassion toward the victim. and i cannot tell you that a jury despises that, really and truly. >> let's get back to the mindset of the jury. three women on death row. shawna, wendy, 42 years old and deborah, 48 years old. her conviction has been overturned by a federal appeals court but she is still on death row. the difficulty that jurors in the past have had putting women to death are on death row. not just arizona but throughout the country where that is an option. >> and you see a tremendous amount of emotion. the problem is, it would usually work if you have a young caucasian, caucasian latino young woman who is emotionally entrenched in this case. who is crying. who is really appealing to the sensitivities of the jury. in this case, the prosecution has used that against the defendant. the prosecution has said she's

trying to manipulate you and clearly the jury agreed. because they would not have found her guilty of premeditated murder. >> real quick once again, there interview. i can't get it out of my head. the proximity from the time when she first found out she was guilty of first-degree murder. as an attorney, it was one of those what moments. >> i was shocked. i said this morning on the "today" show, if the lawyers knew, she has a really good claim of ineffective assistance of counsel. and i've just heard the lawyers were shocked also. this woman does not realize that seeking attention is what got her in this situation right now. she really is drawn like a moth to the flame to celebrity. and she is actually getting what travis alexander denied her. the attention of men and women all over the world. >> and with her attorneys, if they're able to in any way present i guess a balanced

woman, someone the jury could empathize with, what could they say? >> i would like to know more about her background. where does this socio pathic behavior, not to put too fine a point come from? was she abused as a child? what was her family life like? where did she learn to be this pathological liar? is there any other explanation for the viciousness, the cruel and the heinous way in which she killed this man? if they can't show that, they have not shown mitigation. without mitmitigation, she willt the death sentence. >> thank you, star, we'll see you soon. the penalty phase starts in jodi arias's trial in a couple hours. this other big case, the alleged cleveland killer, ariel castro held his head down. he even tried to hide his face as the judge set his bail at $8 million. $2 million for each victim he is

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the cleveland kidnapping suspect is being held on $8 million bond. today, 52-year-old ariel castro

appeared in court and in public for the first time since his arrest. castro did not speak keeping his eyes lowered and trying to conceal his face at one point. prosecutors described the decade of abuse. >> charges against mr. castro are based on premeditated, deliberate and depraved decisions to snatch three young ladies from cleveland's streets to be used in whatever self-gratifying, self-serving way he saw fit. today the situation is turned, your honor. mr. castro stands before you a captive, in captivity, a prisoner. the women are free to resume their lives that were interrupted. and also, with the promise and the hope that justice will be served. >> meanwhile, we're waiting an afternoon news conference where investigators will reveal more about the women's years in captivity. tonight, local officials will hold a public meeting regarding the communal's relationship with

police. craig melvin is live outside the house in cleveland. let's move forward a bit and talk about what is happening or what we're expecting as far as that news conference with investigators and this meeting with the community tonight. >> reporter: tamron, that community meeting will happen at 7:00 at the church at the end of the block behind me. we're told that a number of faith leaders, public officials and lots of folks who live in this neighborhood in the western part of cleveland, ohio, they will all gather and talk about the relationship or lack there of that exists between folks here and the police department. i'm going to step out of the way. i want to show you. in the past 20 or 30 minutes, we've seen this familiar white truck pull up. we've seen this over the past few days. this is one of the fbi vehicles. we have not seen any of the fbi evidence gathering team hop out yet. but over the last few days we've seen they will get out. take out one of the canines and start walking into the house and come out with bags of evidence. that has not happened yet but we

expect that to once again happen because investigators say despite the charges, they are continuing this investigation of talking to witnesses and there is a 4:00 news conference as well that you alluded to and we're expecting that news conference being held by the prosecutor to learn new details. i want to bring in tito dejesus. he is someone who knew ariel castro. in fact, you met ariel castro some 20 years ago through your ex-wife, is that correct? >> yes. >> reporter: what was he like? what is he like? >> typical musician who loved music. happy guy, joking around, never notice anything weird or strange about him at all. >> reporter: had he ever said anything weird? nothing. >> no. not at all. >> reporter: and you've been inside the house. >> yes, i have. >> reporter: when you were in the house, the last time was 2011. when you were in the house last, did you see anything out of the ordinary? did you hear anything out of the ordinary? >> not at all. i walked in briefly.

i was bringing some stuff that i gave him. and i was sitting in the living room. what i noticed was just his instruments that he liked off the out and his amplifiers and everything. he was showing that to me. what i saw, your basic home. i didn't go past the living room. >> did he not let you go past the living room? >> no. i was in a hurry. he said hey, have a beer, sit down, shoot the breeze, maybe you can test out one of my bases. i said no, i have a performance. i have to go. >> reporter: did you see any of the three women or the little girl? >> no. in the time i've been in the house i've only seen him alone. >> reporter: outside the home did you ever see him with people? >> never seen him with anybody. at the rehearsals, the performances, any time he came to my house, always alone. never seen him with anybody in 20 years. >> reporter: when news started leaking about what investigators say happened inside that house, what went through your mind? >> it was a shock to me.

my heart fell to the ground. i couldn't, i had no idea this was the guy that i've known for 20 years. >> thank you for your time. appreciate it. again, we'll be at that community meeting at 7:00 and we'll continue to follow the latest on the investigation as well. >> before i let you go, can you give us an update on this suicide note that was allegedly found? what can you tell us? >> reporter: nbc news confirmed earlier that during the initial search of the home behind me, they found a suicide note that was written by ariel castro. that suicide note we're told was dated 2004. there are some things related to evidence in the note that the investigators would not tell us about but they did say that castro indicated that he had been abused as a child. in the note. but there are 200 pieces of evidence to sift through and comb through so we are expecting over the course of the next few days and weeks that we'll be hearing more about the evidence. >> thank you very much. great job, craig. now let me bring in former fbi

profiler clint van zandt. clint, 200 pieces of evidence as you heard melvin report. one of the items they're at is this alleged suicide letter from ariel castro. look, the biggest piece of evidence of the three women who walked out of that home and that baby. the other evidence is a part of putting together what happened. but the reality is this story will come from amanda, michelle and gina. >> reporter: it really will. that suicide note was dated 2004. we realize the three kidnappings we know of was 2002, 2003 and 2004. you know, what is of significance right now is that the community is talking about the one missing girl who was missing from that same neighborhood. well, at this very moment, there are at least 36 women and girls, ages 18 and younger, that are missing from that cleveland area

that are unaccounted for. so this case, it may be some people refer to it as a slam-dunk for the three victims right now. i think authorities have got to look at a lot of other missing person cases and see if their primary suspect comes up in any of those cases. >> they would be negligent if they did not, considering the years that went by. i want to play ariel castro's daughter arlene was on "good morning america." she was a friend of amanda berry's and was featured, i think, in this america's most wanted when they were looking for amanda. when they profiled amanda. let me profile what ariel's daughter has to say. >> i'm absolutely so, so sorry. i really want to see you, gina. and i want you to meet my kids. i'm so sorry for everything. >> so here you have his daughter apologizing but we're learning

just what a monster her father was. and it seems at least from that interview, she was oblivious like many of the other family members have said they were. >> reporter: that's what family members have told us. and realize ariel castro's son was a journalist who wrote a piece at the time of one of the kidnappings about what was going on. so the whole family, the whole community was tied into this. the question that lingers, was ariel really able to wear such a mask that was so thick that no one else could see through it? we know these three young women have seen through it. the question is who else? to include perhaps the two brothers that were arrested with him and subsequently released. >> speaking of the sickness of it. you are a profiler and i want some insight into this. one of the victims, michelle knight, talked about to the police that there were, she was pregnant multiple times. at least five times. and ariel castro starved her and

repeatedly punched her so that she would miscarry. but when amanda berry was pregt, he threatened michelle and said this this baby dies, i will kill. profile wise, here he is allegedly causing her to lose five babies. but then wanting another baby to live. was this all just the control of these women? i determine who lives and who dies in this home? >> reporter: well, realize, of course, there is no greater control than what you just said. who lives and who dies. i think we may find out that this guy is a sexual sadist, a sociopath. when we look at that type of personality, that goes far beyond control. that goes into torture or bondage. it goes into tying people up with ropes and chains and getting some type of sadistic enjoyment out of that. so there is going to be such a dark side to this individual's character.

it is going to fill, you know, literally reams of pages for books as profilers consider how bad one person can be. you know, every time we look at these, you and i and others, we think we've seen the depth of human behavior and somebody like this allegedly steps up and shows us how much darker a human being can be. >> oh, wow, you're so right, clint. thank you so much. still ahead on "news nation." >> my fear is that the boston bomber may have succeeded because our system failed. we can and we must do better. >> the first congressional hearings on the boston bombings taking place today. information sharing between local and federal police. part of the discussion today. we'll talk with justice correspondent pete williams on what more came out of that hearing. cars. ted is trying to get a hold of his insurance agent. maxwell is not. he's on geico.com setting up an appointment with an adjuster.

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congressional meaning. some express worry that federal officials were not sharing enough information with state and local enforce many, even going so far as calling it a failure that is indefensible. >> my fear is that the boston bombers may have succeeded because our system failed. we can and we must do better. >> i guarantee you that if we fail to act, we will be discussing this issue again. >> i believe that though it would not have been easy, it was possible to have prevented the terrorist attacks in boston. in a literal sense, the homeland security system, we must acknowledge that we built after 9/11 to protect the american people from terrorist attacks failed to stop the tsarnaev brothers. with your help we must find out why and fix it. >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us. the boston commissioner ed davis

said he would have liked to have had the information regarding what russia disclosed but he doesn't know if it would have prevented the attacks. >> remember, all of this was about the fact that russian intelligence in 2011 asked the fbi for more information about tamerlan tsarnaev, the older of the two brothers saying he was coming to russia and wanting to know if there was information about him they should know. what we have been told since, what was confirmed at this hearing, the local police were never told about that. the boston police commissioner said he didn't know the russians had asked for this information. that the fbi had done a threat assessment and tsarnaev went to russia and came back and he said it would have been good to know but he can't say based on he knows what now, that anything differently would have been done. what joe lieberman said, the former chairman of the homeland security on the senate side was, you might have had a better chance at stopping it if the local police had been involved. so the larger question here is, do the rule need to be change to

permit the fbi to bring the police more fully into these investigations when they arise? lieberman also said the biggest failure to share information in this entire case might be the failure of the russians to be more explicit about what their concerns were about tamerlan tsarnaev and to follow up when the fbi and the cia several times asked the russians for more information. >> let me play a little of the exchange today with the commissioner, ed davis. >> if you had had this information before the bombing, would you have done, your police offense and you, would you have done anything differently? >> that's very hard to say. we would certainly look at the information. we would certainly talk to the individual. from the information i received, the fbi did that and closed the case out. i can't say that i would have come to a different conclusion based upon the information that was known at that particular time.

>> i don't know if there is a brief way to explain the relationship with local and federal authorities with this information sharing but for example in new york, you've got special task forces set up after 9/11 to make sure that authorities in new york have as much information as possible. one would have made the assumption that something of this degree, especially if you heard from russia about this individual, that would have been at least something that could be shared. >> there are dozens of these joint terrorism task forces around the country. and boston certainly has one. and the boston police commissioner that that their members are a very robust part of it. the fact remains that when the fbi did this threat assessment, the local police were not involved in it according to the boston police commissioner. and the question was, if they had been, could they have had different authorities than the fbi did to follow up on this once the fbi determined that its role in this was closed. the fbi determined that there was no derogatory information. they felt they had no choice

under their rules and the laws to close out this investigation. the question that was raised but not answered at this hearing, and future hearings will have to raise this and decide it is. in a case like this, could you allow the police on their own, independent of the fbi to continue to keep an eye on people when these sorts of things come up. >> pete williams, thank you very much. now a few updates out of the boston area. the widow of suspect tamerlan tsarnaev brought a new lawyer on to her legal team. katherine russell hired an attorney. experienced with terrorism cases. investigators say they are seeking more information from russell. another update. an unknown person has resolved the fight over what to do with tamerlan tsarnaev's body. after several communities refused to bury the remains, someone has offered a burial site at an unknown location. joining me, "boston globe" report he wesley lowrie.

what else can you tell us about any information on how this was resolved, where to place tsarnaev's remains. >> thanks for having me. details are just trickling out. i'm still here outside the funeral home where tamerlan tsarnaev's body has been held, it would have been seven days today. what i'm hearing from the funeral home, the body was moved late last night in a very quiet, we were camped out here. no police escort. moved quietly through what is still at this point an undisclosed location. it had been approved by the uncle, ruslan starni. the police have confirmed the body is no longer in the city or in the state of massachusetts. so right now there are more questions than answers about where tamerlan tsarnaev's body is, where it was buried. if it was entombed versus in the ground. what we know right now is that the body seemingly has been, has

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a critical day for the

immigration reform bill being offered in the senate. the senate judiciary committee began considering efforts to change the bill crafted by the so call bipartisan gang of 8 senators. senators have offered 300 amendments, 200 by republicans. >> no one can dispute that this bill is legalization first, enforcement later. >> i've introduced amendments to remove the pathway to citizenship for those who are here illegally. to make them ineligible for means tested government benefits. >> don't make an effort to kill a bill that is the best hope for immigration reform i believe that we've had in this country. and frankly, the best hope to help break the bipartisan, the partisan gridlock that has strangled the senate, the congress and the country. >> let's bring in nbc news senior political editor mark murray. so you heard schumer there, don't kill the bill. a lot of what they're wrangling with has to do with bored he security.

>> it is this dynamic between border security and that pathway to citizenship for undocumented graen immigrants. the strategy needs to be in place and that is what later triggers in that path way to citizenship. you're hearing from some conservatives like chuck grassley from iowa that the, the enforcement in all the results have to be in place first before that pathway. one way to look at this is that democrats and gang of 8 supporters believe that you need to be enrolled in the class to be able to have that path way kick in. the conservative republicans want you to have to pass that test and pass that class before that pathway begins. >> what about the fear that all of this will weaken. at least democrats say, the bill that seems to be one that could be popular with the people. >> that's where you'll see this gang of 8 and it come in very

handy. they'll be banded together a lot of the time to avoid the poison pills. ones that would be seen to weaken it. both democrats and republicans said they're open to any type of amendment that strengthens the legislation. in fact, one amendment by republican senator chuck grassley got approved, according to my colleague, carey dan who has been following this. this gets rid of one of the designations that they need to be in high traffic areas. now it is just applied across the board. they're open to ideas. but you are right. you'll see this gang of eight try to protect thing that don't allow the so-called poison amendments to pass. >> mark murray, thank you very much. developing now, the white house is responding to a request from john boehner for additional e-mails regarding the benghazi attacks. all of this as president obama takes the stage in austin, texas. the administration wants to kick off what it calls a series of middle class jobs and opportunity tours.

we understand this is the first time boehner has come out discussing this investigation, these hearings. what is the white house saying? >> reporter: right. and house speaker john boehner today asked for additional e-mails to be released. at this point in time there is no indication that white house officials are planning to release additional e-mails that relate to the benghazi incident. the white house spokesman, eric schultz did release this statement. it says this administration has made extraordinary efforts to work with the five congressional committees investigating the benghazi attacks, including over the past eight months. testifying in what is now 11 congressional hearings, holding 20 staff briefings and providing over 25,000 pages of documents. the white house says that the republicans are playing politics with this issue. they say that the white house did weigh in on those points. those controversial talking points but they say any changes that the white house recommended were stylistic in nature and not

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the rebels to the negotiating table. secretary kerry reacted to the reports in rome where he's been laying the groundwork for the u.s.-russian plan. >> i had my say with president putin and we made an agreement to go to a negotiation in the next days. and i'm not going to get into here now at this moment, as i said, distinguishing features between one country's aid and another country's aid and who is doing what. that would be counter productive to what we're trying to accomplish. i think we've made it crystal clear. we would prefer that russia was not supplying assistance of. >> meanwhile the new issue of "time" magazine features dueling editorials on syria. senator mccain argues u.s. intervention in syria is in our best interests.

and he argues it would only make the situation worse. joining me now, time international editor, i think these the best what you do in presenting these dueling opinions. so often people fall in line. >> there has been a lot of talk over several months now about what needs to be done in syria. it can get a little confusing. to be able to put those two ideas clear as it can be from presenting both the best case and the worst-case scenario. >> he said the struggle is between forces funded and armed by outside sponsors. notably, saudi arabia, qatar and iran. also participating are foreign religious groups, not directly controlled by the sponsors, not to mention intensely anti-western al qaeda fighters.

american involvement would simply mobilize the most extreme elements of these factions against the u.s. and pose the danger that the conflict would spill over into the neighborhood and set jordan, iraq and lebanon on fire. >> that's an argument that has quite considerable support in the white house. the white house has been reluctant to engage. they don't see a positive outcome no matter what they do. they tried to game this out. they get worse for american interests. >> if you don't interfere, those same people, those outside actors. those potentially either iran-associated might get their hands on the weapon. >> let me play a little of what john mccain said. he took to the senate floor and argued the same points that he made in the editorial and

"time." >> nearly all the terrible consequences that those opposed to intervention predicted would happen if we intervene in syria have happened because we have not. at the same time, this conflict is having increasingly devastating consequences to the security and stability of our allies and partners in israel, jordan, turkey, iraq, and lebanon. >> so john mccain says that inaction or the cost inaction outweighs the cost of action. he also admits that there is no ideal option here. >> yes, he does. let's be clear. he is not calling for american boots on the ground. he is not calling for manned american aircraft to be flying. >> he know that people wouldn't tolerate that. >> but it is interesting that they're both making the same point but from opposite sides. what is going on is destabilizing to the region. he is saying it is destabilizing already. john mccain. it just shows that the quandary that the white house faces.

that there are no good options of. >> and real quick, i have to ask you about these reports out today that russia plans to sell this sophisticated air defense system to syria. secretary kerry is in russia. what do we know about these reports? >> well, russia is one of syria's biggest arm suppliers. traditionally even through the past two years has continued to supply syria. so i'm a little, we'll to have see first of all. these reports come in directly. let's see if they are true. then we have to find out whether the deal was made months and months ago or whether it has been made since. >> these latest allegations of the use of chemical weapons. >> so those are things to look out for. >> thank you for your time. still ahead, a bill in new york city requiring businesses to provide employees with paid sick leave. that's our gut check. what do you think? and be sure to like the news nation. we're at facebook.com/"news nation." i'm here at my house on thanksgiving day,

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couple. a 30-year-old man, a 27-year-old woman falling from the mid deck wednesday night. about 185 miles north of sydney. time for the gut check. the new york city council has approved a bill that would require many businesses to offer paid time off to sick employees. the bill is expected to become law and supporters of the measure hope other towns and cities across the country will pass similar laws. they say paid sick leave benefits, not just those workers who are sick but also those who are not and it protects them from getting germs. critics including the new york city mayor, michael bloomberg say it hurts job creation and that small businesses often can't afford to pay someone who misses work. they say would think and employees should be allowed to work things out without the government interfering. okay. san francisco, washington, d.c., seattle, portland oregon and the state of connecticut have also approved paid sick leave measures. so interesting that some are worried about the government

interfering but this is the same town as the soda ban and all these other things. do you think businesses should be required to provide employees with paid sick leave? go to facebook.com/newsnation. i really want to know what you think. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ (vo) purina cat chow. 50 years of feeding great relationships. thto fight chronic. osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, you will know you did something for your pain.

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