neighbors missed all of the signs. mrs. kravitz, she would have known. that's all for now. "politicsnation" and al sharpton starts right now. tonight's lead, the mind of a monster. ariel castro is behind bars in complete isolation and on suicide watch. former relatives of castro's ex-girlfriend, the mother of his children, paint a nightmarish portrait of castro in interviews with "the associated press," describing him as, quote, a monster, who abused his wife and kept his kids locked inside their own home. castro's mother is sick about it. >> i have a sick son who has done something very serious. i ask for forgiveness from the mothers, i ask that the girls forgive me for the pain they suffered. i'm suffering for my son.

my son is sick. and i have nothing to do with what my son did. leave me alone because i am a mother and i'm suffering, too. >> and now we're learning more about castro's sick past from one of the victim's mothers. >> you would see him and he would say, how are you doing? >> yes. >> like nothing was wrong? >> yes. >> that's chilling. >> it is. you know how many times i've been through these streets? i've passed by that street. i have a sister who lives two blocks and a half away from there. >> today we learn the results of castro's dna test. they confirmed he is the father of amanda berry's 6-year-old daughter, another amazing day of

developments. joining me from cleveland is craig melvin and also with us is clint van zandt, former fbi profiler. craig, his family is calling him a monster. what are you hearing from the people in the community? >> reporter: well, you know what, rev, a lot of folks that we're talking to are still in shock. this picture that's emerging from the note, from the suicide note and also from the interrogation, wkyc, our nbc affiliate, spent a fair amount of time of reporting on the initial interrogation with castro. >> i'm going to get to that. >> reporter: and that picture that's starting to emerge, based on folks that you talk to here, it doesn't really jive. because, again, here's a guy that was in a band, played the bass in the band, was an active

barbecuer, he had friends and was leading this double life of sorts. he had three women chained inside that home for close to a decade. khalid is here. he want to bring him in. as a community organizer now, working for the city of cleveland for some time and early on you were one of the folks who organized one of the search parties for the three missing girls, correct? >> correct. and good evening to you, brother al sharpton. >> hi. how are you doing? >> as we know -- good. and i'm perplexed now because we're dealing with the death of the grandson but this is a pers personification. castro was with us from day one. we put together search teams that consisted of law enforcement, clergy, community activists and organizers. he came with his own fellows

from his family. he said he wanted to get out here and search. we gave him a stack of flyers and papers with streets that we want him to cover. he hugged felix and said we're going to bring this young lady home. >> wait. let me understand this, khalid. when you and people were going out to search for one of these young ladies, castro came with people, members of his family, and said he wanted to help you guys go search for one of his victims? >> yes. i was in charge of putting together a collaborative search effort and he was one of the first ones to come to us with some young men in his family and friends, he took a stack of flyers, we gave him streets to cover, he hugged felix, the father of gina and the mother and said, look, we're going to bring this young lady home. and he clearly -- >> had a relationship with the

family? he had a relationship with -- >> his daughter was supposed to spend the night at gina's house that night. >> wow. >> and she was told that she couldn't spend the night. he picked gina up because he knew that she would trust him because his daughter was going to spend the night at her house. >> hold it right there. i want to ask clint, clint, what type of personality is this that he's kidnapped these young ladies, one of which is -- this team is going out to search for her. he brings family members and joins the team. i mean, what kind of person is this? >> well, you know, we hear of the old proverbial dr. jeckyl and mr. hyde, this guy with mr. hyde most of the time. we see where kidnappers involve themselves in a search for a number of reasons. number one, they want to know

what's going on. they want to know if police are getting close to them. number two, they want to put the shroud of innocence over them. obviously i'm above suspicion. number three, al, there's this sadistic idea of being involved in something like this where everyone is out there working and yet you're the only one that knows the real truth, the real secret. this guy is about as low as they go. >> now, let me ask you, khalid, was there any follow up after he initially came and took the flyers and promised the parents that were going to help you all find the young lady? did he consistently stay in touch with the team, or do you know? >> he consistently came out. he consistently worked with us. he consistently came over to the school his daughter attended the middle school. he was embedded in a way that now, looking back on retrospect,

he was a serious serial psychopath. >> you know, we're learning -- we're learning today, craig, that the women were kept in a basement like dogs. the rooms in the house were tiny. some not much bigger than closets and when people came over, castro played loud music and taped the women's mouth shut. these are new bits of naf information that we're getting today. >> and i'll tell what you else, rev, a lot of this information -- some of it seems to be coming from castro himself. some of the information that we're getting is coming from the interviews with the interrogators where he describes himself, according to our affiliate, as cold-blooded, he describes himself as a sex addict. at one point he says that the three women who were taken captive were taken captive because they got in the car with

a stranger. he said it was essentially their fault. all of those things coming from the accused himself over the course of the past few days. we should also note here -- >> let me ask khalid something else while i have him. i understand you, khalid, was with gina's home today? >> yes, i just left there a while ago. they were meeting with legal counsel about the next steps and meeting with community activists doing around the clock -- just being there with the family and supporting the effort as they celebrate and try to, you know, begin the healing process. so it's a total community embracing the dejesus family.

>> she's waving and asking for chick-fil-a sandwiches to be brought to the house. things are starting to be upbeat. >> and the family seems to be in full mode of helping her to recover, i would assume? >> yes. to look in felix and nancy's face, brother, you see total transformation. >> wow. >> and it's a beautiful thing because we know how many years they kept hope and kept their faith and god has delivered. >> clint, i saw you nodding when you said -- when you heard khalid say that gina was waving at them and saying she wanted to chick-fil-a. why were you nodding? is that a normal thing when someone has gone through something like this, even though i don't know anyone that's gone through anything like this. >> yeah.

well, al, she's going to go through peaks and valleys. she's celebrating right now but realize she's going to have terrible nightmares that will wake her up in the middle of the night. she has to learn to trust people all over again. she has to learn to make her own decisions and of the three women, of course, the oldest, this woman who was 20 when she was taken, it appears that she doesn't have a whole lot of family support. so that's where your guest and other support needs to step up and support this one woman who doesn't appear to have any external support system. >> yeah, michelle was released from the hospital and she's the one that you are talking about that does not have the support system. clint, let me go back to castro for a minute. we learned that the mother of castro's children sought a restraining order against him. castro allegedly broke her nose, ribs, and shoulders, and caused a blood clot in her brain.

today he we're learning that he threatened to kill her and her children, physical violence is one thing but threatening to kill her, shoving her into a box, is this psychological abuse, clint? >> well, it's not only psychological abuse, al, but this is the way he developed himself. this is a way that psychopath -- he practiced. he honed all of these skills on former wife, girlfriend, mother of the children, did these horrible things to her. al, the criminal justice system apparently didn't deal with him and then we simply fast forward five, six years later and he's carrying these same things out but now is he a full-blown not only psychopath but a terrorist in his own way. he is able to terrorize these women because everything he practiced in his mind, number one, he's good at it and, number

two, he feels he can get away with it when he was breaking this woman's nose, knocking her down the stairs, terrorizing her every day. he took all of these horrible skills, brought them forward five to ten years and used them on these three children. >> khalid, let me go back to you before we leave this segment. it is clear that there was no sign at all of this kind of person when he would come out and volunteer to help you and others in the community find people. it is also clear that it is wrong to say that there were not people in the neighborhood that were actively trying to help families like this that were in need and wanted people to really go out and try to help with missing people in the neighborhood. >> well, again, this is a

challenged neighborhood. a lot of people keep to themselves. however, when it came to these missing young ladies, people came out. they always asked whenever their birthdays came around, the rallies would be huge. it could be snowing, sleet, raining, we would pass out flyers, especially when the fbi gave us the updated flyers and what we thought gina might look like, or amanda ten years later. everybody was always enthusiastic about it. however, i think he embedded himself on the street because he boarded his windows up from the inside, which is somebody who maybe works in law enforcement would take a look at that. i saw this clown about three months ago at mcdonald's on dennison and he had three bags of mcdonald's food but never thought to ask him, why are you buying all of this food if you're living by yourself? are you feeding the dogs? i didn't really think about it. i didn't know that he was divorced and didn't have his

family anymore. but he was a smooth operator but he's been exposed. >> well, we're going to talk more about how he operated and how we should all keep our eyes open. we're going to talk about that later in the program. thank you so much, khalid samad and craig melvin and clint van zandt for all of your time this evening. coming up, we'll go inside the interrogation room, exclusive new details about ariel castro and what he's telling police, acting cocky behind bars. stay with us.

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what is ariel castro saying from behind bars in cleveland county jail? he's in complete isolation and on suicide watch but sources say he's talking to interrogators saying he's cold-blooded and addicted to sex and that he couldn't control impulses. joining me now is cleveland investigative reporter tom maya from wkyc. thank you for joining us. >> it's good to be here, reverend. >> tom, tell us what's going on inside that prison. what is the suspect saying to

authorities? >> well, first, the suspect castro is in isolation at county jail. they say he's behaving himself but he's not allowed to leave the cell. the meals are coming to his cell. he's beening treated like the women he held captive although he's not being sexually and physically assaulted. he says he blames this whole thing on the women because he says they made the mistake by getting into his car. of course, they had a lot of help from them, encouragement from him. he told amanda that his son worked at the same fast food restaurant that she did. his daughter went to the same school as gina did. and of course we know that michelle was a runaway and in need of help. he also said that this was not a planned crime. this was a crime of opportunity. he says he admits to chaining

these women in the basement and forced them to wear disguises when he did let them out. this is interesting. he said -- he thought he would be caught but he didn't think he would be caught when he was caught, in ten years. he told police that's why he didn't have an exit plan and took a poke at police, you had a chance at busting me at one time but you blew it. the only thing that we can think of is there were a couple of occasions when law enforcement authorities went to his home, some minor incidents, some service calls by cleveland police but sheriff police tried to serve him papers three times in that domestic violence case. five opportunities. >> so by him saying that you had an opportunity to get me, i mean, he's almost being cocky to them, wouldn't you say? >> reverend, that's exactly what police said he was during the interview. said he was cocky, arrogant, he

tried to control the interview. they said he showed no signs of remorse. the only time he was reforceful is when he talked about when he got caught. so, yes, very cocky and very arrogant. >> he remembers everything, even down to what they were wearing? >> that's one of the first things he told police. he remembers the day that they were kidnapped and he remembers every article of clothing they were wearing. he remembers exactly where he picked them up and where he kidnapped them. he's admitting to the kidnappings. >> prosecutors are going all out for the death penalty. we'll talk about that. but tom from wkyc, thank you for your reporting tonight. >> you're welcome. joining me now is wendy murphy, a former child abuse and sex crimes prosecutor. wendy, prosecutors are going all in and they might seek the death

penalty because of the alleged miscarriages in this case. let's listen and talk on the other side. >> based on the facts, i fully intend to seek charges for each and every act of violent rape, each day of kidnapping, every felonious assault, all of his attempted murders and each act of aggravated murder he committed by terminating pregnancies that the offender perpetuated against the hostages during this decade-long ordeal. >> so wendy, you were a prosecutor. they are going for aggravated murder because of the m miscarriages. is this a good strategy from the prosecutor? >> well, yeah. i mean, look, in some ways he's saying i'm going to do everything i can and throw the book at the guy. it sounds like he's going to charge him with thousands of crimes, which is great but he said there isn't a tough enough crime on the book as a single

offense. i'm wondering because in some states there's a crime called torture. ohio doesn't have one. i think the folks in ohio should consider whether they need one. if you can put it on the books in the matter of state law, that could be a death penalty charge. i think he's trying to maximize the punishment, he deserves death, as do all of us, but i'm not sure he's going to get it with a homicide charge involving a fetus. not that you can't prosecute, you can. i don't know that it will passion constitutional muster to justify the death penalty. because it's still an open constitutional question. will the supreme court of the united states say that's cruel and unusual? i don't know. i do think this. the guy wants to sound tough. the prosecutors should sound tough. how come they didn't mention civil rights, hate crimes, he targeted women for a long time, kidnap, raped them, torture.

why is this not a civil rights crime? >> i'm against the death penalty and i don't think the risk of innocent people going to death should be even entertained because of some democrat mondde me go back to castro and his suicide note. you're a long-time prosecutor in these kinds of offenses. he wrote in the suicide note, i am a sexual predator. i need help. they are here against their will because they made a mistake of getting in a car with a total stranger. he said he was abused by his parents and raped by an uncle. wendy, when we know that he's admitting this to authorities, but does having it on paper in 2004 have any impact legally at all? >> well, i suppose he'll say that when he makes up his abuse

excuse defense at trial, he'll say i didn't really make it up for the trial because i wrote it all those years ago but would it be a little too harsh of me, al, to say that suicidal urge he had way back then, i kind of wish it was more than an urge, if you know what i'm saying? the fact that this guy spoke like that because he hated himself so much but couldn't extricate himself from doing those inhuman acts to those defenseless whom man beings? i don't care. a jury will say too bad you weren't successful and we don't care. you're a grown-up. if you were abused as a child, that's really terrible but it doesn't give you any right to touch anybody at all ever, end of discussion. i'm sick of hearing this guy's bad feelings about himself because he was abused. a lot of people are abused as a child. and you know what? they don't hurt anybody. >> there's no doubt about that. we can agree there. wendy murphy, thanks for your time tonight.

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we're learning more about some signature moment in this case in cleveland. joining me is nbc correspondent ron allen. >> reporter: hi, reverend al. this is a small community. it's very rare to be able to talk to the people behind the scenes, the people who were involved in the dramatic rescue. one of the radio dispatchers, one of the voices that you hear on the 911 calls, she was on call when amanda berry called, screaming for help, trying to get the police there. dawn was on the call with her and is also a member of this community. she's lived here for most of her life. she lives near where the women were abducted and knew about the

case. she said she'll never forget hearing amanda's voice in the background when that call came in. here's some of her interview that we did just a few minutes ago with her. >> i couldn't believe that i was hearing her voice. i had only ever heard her mom's voice, her sister's voice, you know, people talk about her on the news. to actually hear her voice, even as hysterical as she was, to hear her voice, it was -- it was the most gratifying moment of my career. >> gratifying because she had been an employee there taking dispatch calls for ten years or so. as a matter of fact, a real odd coincidence, she happens to be the dispatcher who took the call from gina dejesus' family. >> wow. so she was the same dispatcher that took the call from the family, the dejesus family and

she was there to take amanda's call ten years later. >> yes. what are the odds that she would take both calls and be there both nights? just amazing. it speaks to how small of a community this is and how people are really emotionally moved. it's a small place and everybody has been intimately involved, connected to the story for the past ten years. her story, the dispatcher, just another one of so many that you hear here on the streets of cleveland every day. back to you. >> ron allen, thank you so much for your time tonight. this case is horrific and shocking and yet over the years there have been some similar cases that may hold lessons for today. one of the most infamous is that of joseph fritzel, an us a an a

man who kept his daughter in a basement for 20 years and beared seven of his children. >> evidence from police photos, we have rendered a computer animation of what that compound might look like. to access it, one needed to go down the cellar stairs and through rooms. there were eight locked doors before reaching the living area. the final door was concealed behind a shelving unit. there was no natural light and little fresh air. inside their tiny prison, there was a kitchen, a bathroom, and a

living area and beyond this, two bedrooms. the ceilings were low because of all of the sound proofing required to must have fell the cries of the imprisoned. >> a horrific story which echos years later and thousands of miles away. how could anyone do this to another human being? how can the survivors recover and move on with their lives? joining me now is brian levin, a criminologist at california state university, san bernardino. brian, whether it's joseph or ariel castro, how can anyone do this to another human snk. >> these are sociopathic violent criminals who dominate and create an alternative world where they are completely in control. >> now, joseph told his wife

that their daughter elizabeth had run away and then he kept leaving -- his daughter he would say kept leaving her newborn children on their doorsteps. some wondered how his wife could have been fooled by this. listen to this. >> and what about his wife, rosem rosemarie? >> i don't understand why she didn't take the opportunity at some point, while he was on one of his holidays, to take action and say, this is my child and i want to know where my child is. why did my child leave one baby or even three babies on the doorstep. she didn't take action. >> so the father brought these three of the seven children and kept saying that the runaway

daughter left the children there and the seventh was in the basement, in the dungeon being raised by her. people are saying that the mother should have known, just like people are saying today with castro and cleveland, somebody should have known. do we always, around these cases, end up with people doubting whether some of the surrounding area of family members knew anything? >> yes. what's so interesting, he had his daughter through a threat write a letter saying don't bother me, don't contact me. if i do, i'll leave the country. he went to great lengths to create a manipulation here and his wife was manipulated by him as well. the authorities did not follow that up. we see thin ice where someone knocked a little bit, we would have found something. these people often hide in plain sight.

indeed, a tenant heard some noise and he said it could be gas coming in, don't worry about it. on the other hand, what he told his daughter elizabeth, i'll electrify the metal on the door or put in gas and gas you if you try to get out. much the same way that castro tried to test his captives by saying, you may try to get out but it's a test. so these people who are captive are being dominated -- >> we're told that he would purposely leave doors unlocked and leave that to test a woman. amanda berry stated that the big inside door was not locked before ariel left. she thought ariel was testing her. >> that's right. and i'll tell you something, because of the outcry over this, ohio, as you were discussing in your last segment, does have a fetal homicide statute where he can get the death penalty and it covers it from early on. so this guy might have thought

he was getting away with something. he knew what he was doing was wrong and when it ended, his world collapsed and now he is rightly on suicide watch. >> brian levin, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend al. the miracle in cleveland. what can we all do to make sure some more missing children make it back to their families? how can we all take action? that's coming up.

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tempur-pedic. i want to thank everybody that believed even when i said she was alive and believed. >> gina dejesus' mother never gave up hope. like ashley summers when she was 14 years old went missing and christina atkins, another cleveland teenager who was 18 years old and five months pregnant when she disappeared. in january 1995. the statistics of missing

children are staggering. the fbi says that last year almost 500,000 children were reported missing. over 10,000 of those children are thought to be in potential physical danger. an astounding percentage of those missing children come from minority communities and haven't gotten the attention they've deserved. but tonight we're shining a spotlight on some of them. america needs to look for its missing children. all of them. joining me now, derika and natalie wilson. they founded the black and missing foundation, a nonprofit organization that helps families find missing loved ones. one of the children featured on their website was gina dejesus. now they can happily list her as found. thank you for being here

tonight. >> thank you for having us. >> has the cleveland miracle given new hope to families you're in contact with? >> absolutely. this has really restored their spirits, that their loved ones will be found as well and they can have a joyous reunion as these families in cleveland, ohio. >> now, there are hundreds of profiles of missing children on your website. one of them is asha jaquilla degree who has been missing since she was 9 years old. what can you tell us about her story? >> she went missing in the middle of the night. her father last saw her while she was asleep between 2:30 and 5:30 in the morning, she just disappeared. we're hoping that someone will come forward with information so that asha can be found.

>> now, look at some of the big cases that are found. like jaycee dugard, kidnapper, a convicted sex offender, was then called into a meeting with his patrol officer and brought jaycee with him. that's when she was identified. elizabeth smart was found nine months after she went missing. a sharp-eyed motorist spotted her walking with her kidnapper just miles from her home. so is this typical of how people are found, by people taking notice of things that don't look right in reporting them? is that a typical way we solve some of these cases? >> absolutely. we want the community to know that we as law enforcement rely

heavily on the community. if you see something, report it. we need our community to be vigilant. i know in the cleveland, ohio case, the neighbors were calling the police when they noticed things out of the ordinary. we just need law enforcement to really put forth the energy to help find these missing children. you know, if there's a kid that is missing and say it's a little girl, we need to think outside the box because nine times out of ten, her identity could be altered. she may be dressed like a little boy or her hair may have been cut. we really need to look in the eyes, the faces of all of these children so we can bring some reunions and closure to families. >> now, black and missing foundation that you two have done in such a n admirable way has helped recover over 100 people. should people not be worried about overstepping the bound

when they see something and want to ask questions? >> absolutely. we encourage the community to come forward because we know that someone knows something. we know historically there's a sense of distrust with law enforcement. we have an anonymous tip line. so if you have some information, please alert us. we will not compromise your identity. and it takes all of us to get involved. it takes the media, law enforcement, and the community to find our missing. >> do you in your work at all, natalie, feel that when you have put this emphasis in minority communities, that in many cases that do not receive the same attention so you've got a struggle against all of that. but here we find a case in cleveland where one of those you had listed and you have a man like mr. ramsey who was african-american that actually helped rescue her.

that certainly has to give you some delight and encouragement in your work. >> absolutely, it does. and it should encourage families of the missing to hold on to hope that their loved ones the closure that they deserve. >> if someone is watching now that has had someone missing, what do you say to them? derika or natalie? >> never give up hope. feel free to reach out to us because we will not rest until all of these families have reunions or closure. natalie and i say so many times that we would never see this in our lifetime but we would not stop the fight and we're going to bring in everybody that can help us with this movement. this is our call to action. and just to go a step further, may 25th is national missing children day and on that day it is our call to action. w we will host our first 5-k in

maryland. we are raising awareness to missing persons and, like i said, we are not going to stop until they are reunited. >> natalie, what got you all in this? was it a personal experience or just something that you felt compelled to do? >> well, there was a young lady who went missing from spartanburg, south carolina, and we read how her family really struggled to get media coverage and months later natalee holloway went missing and all i have to do is say her name and we all know who she is. we decided to do the research and at the time 30% missing are of color. that has increased to 42%. we decided to join forces and find our missing. >> derika and natalie wilson, thank you both for your time tonight and god bless you in your work. >> thank you so much.

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decade ago. but this year will be bittersweet for amanda berry. her mother died in 2006. her friends say she died of a broken heart. but until the day she died, she never gave up hope. she simply refused to believe that amanda was dead. she kept looking, passing out flyer, leading searches across the city, going on national television where she spoke with a psychic who said her daughter was dead but she kept fighting and we saw that same toughness when amanda berry reached her small arm through that screen door and cried out for help. after years of being in an horrific prison, amanda found the courage to escape. this week, amanda's grandmother talked about the hope that kept the whole family going, even after amanda's mother died. >> i kept the hope that we had so many hopes and so many times

that they had said they had found her and they hadn't found her. and every time you got your hopes up, it's like it fell again. great mother's day. can't ask for no better. >> while in captivity, amanda gave birth to a little girl. this mother's day will be their first day they can celebrate mother's day together in freedom. you know, real mothers reach beyond the risk, reach beyond their fear to help and believe in their children. amanda's mother did it for her. she's now done it for her daughter. happy mother's day. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. scandal, or just playing politics? let's play "hardball."