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bunker. the heritage act of 2007 played a major role in bringing down immigration reform. they embraced the arguments, the data. this time the republican establishment has run away from the report as fast as possible. >> thank you very much. that is all for this evening. the rachel mad dow show starts now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, and happy friday. happy friday to you as well. president barack obama was elected president of the united states in november of 2008. he was sworn into office january of 2009. you might remember, and it was kind of a big deal, it was kind of a big day in washington, the largest crowds ever to turn out to see a u.s. president sworn in. that was january 2009. ♪ >> by march 2009, the right wing in america just couldn't take it anymore.
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>> what they're doing right now is destroying this country. everyone that i know of at least is very angry about it. we're very upset. we want this guy out. we want him to be impeached. >> what i don't like is that this guy is doing this by executive order one after the other and the american people are sitting like a bunch of shmucks watching a dictatorship emerge right before their eyes. i think it is time to talk about impeachment. somebody has to get this guy under control. he's out of control. thank you for the call. >> thank you for the call. i have to go. it was already time to start impeaching president obama seven weeks into his presidency. by the fall of 2009, my friends at worldnet daily were just asking whether it was time to start whispering about impeaching president obama. that's when the impeach obama campaign website and petition was started nine months into president obama's first term. they didn't want to impeach him
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for anything specific, they just liked the idea of impeaching him. by 2010, tom tancredo's republican campaign for colorado governor was bracing himself for wanting president obama to be impeached for something having to do with immigration. congresswoman michelle bachmann was already calling on him to be impeached for something, i can't remember. and wahlberg said he should be impeached to get that real birth certificate, not that fake one that says he was born in hawaii. >> the administration has a power to keep from showing certain things unless the courts stand up, or unless congress or the majority will stand up to and including impeachment. >> he should be impeached for his real birth certificate.
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wayne year of that, it was newt gingrich saying we should impeach president obama over the defense for marriage act. republican congressman jim sensenbrenner said president obama should be impeached over fast and furious. congress michael burgess of texas went to a town meeting in august of 2011 and quickly found himself having this discussion with folks back home. >> the issue of impeachment. 90% of the people here remember nixon. remember what happened to him? . remember what happened to clinton. if we could just tie his hands cause i'm not convinced we've got the right one. >> then a follow-up question
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from a local reporter led to this markedly restrained report in the star-telegram about just what happened at that town hall. when one attendee pushed for the house to obstruct the president for pushing his agenda, congressman burgess was receptive. it needs to happen, and i agree with you, it would tie things up, no question about that. when asked about the comment later, congressman burgess said he was not sure whether the proper charges to bring up articles of impeachment against obama were there, but he didn't rule out pursuing such a course, anyway. i don't know why we could impeach him or even try to, but yes, let's plan on it, anyway. it would be so much fun. what's the down side? that was all by 2011. that was by the first two years of barack obama being president of the united states. by 2012, though, to impeach obama anything movement really started to feel its oats. that was the year laruchi said
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president obama must be impeached or there will be thermal nuclear war with russia. only impeaching president obama can stop that. at the same time, grover norquist, the tax guy, was saying president obama should be impeached if he does not extend the bush tax cuts. sure, why not? then this year, immediately upon being sworn in to congress, two brand new republican congressmen, one from florida, one from texas, started off their brand new careers in congress by saying they wanted to impeach president obama over something having to do with guns. this is a sad enough exercise for the right that, again, my good friends at the worldnet daily conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo website. they round robined in this article all their favorite possibilities of maybe the ways we could conceivably try to impeach him. they went through fast and furious and drones, they went
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through recessed appointments, they went through czars, suing arizona over the dreams law, benghazi, going to war in libya, gun control, and, of course, as you see there, his das tardly aiding and a betting of the new black panther party who, as we know, took over elections and turned us into a new party fascist dictatorship or whatever. we could put him on a chore wheel and try a new one each week. surely one of those might work, right, to impeach him? let's try them all. there's got to be a way to do it. republicans on the right love talking about impeaching president obama even when they're not sure exactly why. it's almost like an involuntary tic. they sneeze and a little impeach obama squeezes out without them meaning to. they love the idea. today it was republican senator james inhofe who got to do it. this is why he says we should impeach president obama today.
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>> of all the great cover-ups in history, we're talking the pentagon papers, the iran c contra, watergate and all the rest of them, this, i said back on november 28 on fox, is going to go down as the most serious, most egregious cover-up in american history. people need to know how serious this is. to me -- it may be starting to use the i word before too long. >> i word meaning impeachment? >> yeah. >> yeah. i don't know why they have to spell it. they have been saying the i word since march of 2009. why get all nervous about spelling it out now? the biggest cover-up in american history, the latest reason that we must impeach president obama, according to senator jim inhofe in oklahoma, is, of course, benghazi. last fall the u.s. ambassador and three other americans were killed. there have been a lot of attacks on u.s. diplomatic series
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abroad. there were a dozen attacks on the embassy abroad during the bush administration, for example. so it's not instantly obvious why an attack abroad should be grounds for impeaching this president but not any of the other presidents this happened to. well, i'm here to help. depending on which hour of fox news you're watching, there are a number of different ways the right has tried to make this into a political scandal and not just a tragedy. sometimes they say, it was not a spontaneous attack, it was planned. sometimes they say, who changed the talking points? sometimes they say, hey, obama! why did you not call it an act of terror? sometimes they say, why were you not better prepared for the attack? sometimes they say, why did the military not respond? we know the answer to why now
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they said -- we know the answer now to why they said it was a spontaneous attack. and the answer to this one was that they were wrong when they said it was a spontaneous attack. but the intelligence community thought it was a spontaneous attack and said so in the talking points that they gave to administration officials. that was their initial assessment. it was wrong, and when they realized it wrong, they said so and the administration said so, so they stopped describing it as a spontaneous attack, even though they did initially. so this one is kind of done, right? we know when it happened. that all happened right away, it was over very quickly. the notes still say it was a spontaneous attack. there was initially their assessment and it was wrong. on the terror one, why didn't the president call it an act of terror. remember -- the fact is, he did call it an act of fer ror.
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he did it in public and on tape, which finally puts this one to rest. >> no act of terror should ever shake the resolve of this nation, alter that character, or clips the value that we all stand for. >> you didn't an act of terror right away. as for this one, as for why the military did not respond to "stop the attack," the military themselves has also answered that one. the secretary of defense answered back that way. >> there was not enough time given the speed of the attack for armed military assets to respond. >> so that's why the military did not respond. they could not get there in time, so says the military. so that leaves this one.
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talking points were sent around to the fbi, the state department and the white house. the e-mail change showing the initial draft of those talking points and e-mail process, that e-mail chain was sent to members of congress a couple months ago in february while they were considering the nomination of the new cia director. so congress has had the talking points and how they were changed and by whom for a couple months now, showing the revisions, showing how they happened. abc published them today for the public as if they were a smoking gun, and all the republicans who had these things had them for months reported to be outraged by what was in them, shock, shock, impeach, impeach. they have had them for two and a half months now, and they never said anything about them before. today they decided it was a smoking gun even though this has been long answered. so that leaves this. why were we not prepared?
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why were we not better prepared for this attack? this is a good question. and this was the point that was made damningly and unsparingly as the conclusion of the inquiry into what happened in benghazi. the inquiry that was made by the chairman and kenneth pickering tasked with the review of what went wrong when our ambassador and fellow workers died in libya, they had a security posture inadequate for benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place. there was inefficiencies at the senior level of the state department. it was a brutal report. when that brutal report came out in september, secretary of state hillary clinton said she accepted all the report's recommendations without reservation and she accepted full responsibility. >> as i have said many times, i
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take responsibility, and nobody is more committed to getting this right. i am determined to leave the state department and our country safer, stronger and more secure. >> that was back in january after the official report came out cataloging the one actually outstanding and really important question from what happened in benghazi. the same question obviously could be and is asked of time one of our diplomatic facilities is attacked abroad. this is the outstanding matter. the administration accepted all the recommendations of the report on this as a problem, they are implementing those recommendations now. but today, all of a sudden, apparently, for some reason, impeach, impeach! we will figure out why later, let's just impeach! joining us now is congresswoman eleanor holmes morton. she is in charge of the oversight committee who held those hearings on benghazi earlier this week. thanks for being with us
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tonight. >> of course. >> making news today, the revision over the talking points, these revisions are something congress has known about for quite some time. why is this a scandal today? >> these were revisions congress knew about, and our committee knew about most of them. this is an ongoing drama. you've got to have a central character. by the way, for a while there, i thought they were going to impeach hillary clinton before she decided to run for president, because that seems to have been a major goal of this hearing, and yet even with the talking points, they haven't come close to hillary clinton. the state department official apparently said these talking points are for members of congress, there is an investigation still going on, don't just read up on the state department. a statement came out today from hillary clinton saying, this
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state department official was not instructed by hillary clinton. so if the point was to get hillary clinton or president obama, we failed, but what they have done is to revive preemptively, because they think hillary clinton may run for president, as the old benghazi chapter, this time with a few flurries but essentially the same chapter rewritten. >> from all the testimony that has been presented to your committee, from everything that you have done in your oversight role and everything you've seen in your capacity in congress, do you think that there was an effort to cover up what really happened in benghazi for political purposes? do you see that, bottom line? >> here's the difference between this administration and their watergate analogy. you talk about the talking points that came out today. where did they get those talking points? from the administration. the administration turned all of
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that over. yeah, the administration is turning things over as they get it. they put no shame on them the moment that the attack occurred, where it was from, who did it. notice that you have some of the same methodology used with boston. the administration and others were reticent to say it was an attack that was a terrorist attack, because they didn't have all the information, some of it is coming out now. it may be described as such an attack if they can link it to this russian information. in the same way, the administration does not want to call a spayedde a spade until they're sure it's a spade, so they dance around it, as well they should, and the president himself comes out and says acts of terror within days of the attack. this is not a cover-up.
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if it's a cover-up, the president himself didn't get the memo. >> eleanor holmes morton, thank you for being with us tonight. it's nice to have you here, ma'am. >> always a pleasure. a super busy news friday today, including a new report that's 3 million years in the making. plenty of time for revisions. stay with us. e jungle. (screams) i'm really glad that girl stayed at home. vo: expedia helps 30 million travelers a month find what they're looking for. one traveler at a time. expedia. find yours. i i had pain in my abdomen...g. it just wouldn't go away. i was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but they could be early warning signs of a gynecologic cancer,
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there was the vice president's secret energy task force. yes, we're writing the nation's energy policy. no, you are not allowed to know who is writing it, but take a guess. there will be no bid multi-million-dollar contracts. what could possibly go wrong. the chief of staff convicted after a co vert officer was outed in political retaliation for her ambassador husband blowing the whistle on one of the iraq war lies, uranium from africa. scooter libby convicted in that case but spared his time in prison when president bush commuted his sentence. there was the abu grabe scandal. there was more in keeping of the political administration. perhaps the most fun scandal was the toaster ov on scandal, accused of systemic corruption of kind of an exciting nature.
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sex with oil and gas company executives and, of course, snorting crystal meth off the toaster oven. selectively editing scientific reports to exaggerate the uncertainty around climate change. carl rose giving the one-finger salute to the hatch act. political briefings for civil servants were too hard to keep up, so they kept them. there is still a question on how the hooker ended up with the press pass. remember that? conservative blogger and male prostitute jeff gannon, did we ever find out how he got into the white house press briefings and got called upon for all those presidential questions? of course, there was hurricane katrina, almost 2,000 people killed, $100 billion worth of damage. the president had to head up
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that horrible disaster. had no experience in the field. he was the former commissioner of the arabian national horse association. the bush administration had a lot of scandals. we won't even talk about the presidential adviser who ran the scam at target or the fact they wouldn't give any aids funding to anyone having to do with sex scandals and then he ended up being in the sex case. now in the post-bush era. the right has really, really wanted there to be lots of obama administration scandals, too. today's heroic effort to finally try to get benghazi, nothing much as stuck. acorn, the new black panthers. everything has pretty much been a belly flop for them so far. but you know what? now there is one. seriously. it started out with a tea party
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group complaining in march of last year that they were being treated unfairly by the government. they said they were being unfairly targeted by the irs. tea party groups applied for tax exempt status and some of them got back letters from the irs like this one addressed to the waco, texas tea party. dear sir or madam, we need more information before we can consider your application for exemption. they wanted linings like copies of web pages, newsletters, any and all literature, copies of agendas and minutes from board meetings, copies of minutes from board officers. the oversight committee asked the commissioner about this seemingly extra attention that was being paid by the irs specifically to these tea party groups. >> i've gotten a number of letters. just recently we've seen some recent press allegations that the irs is targeting certain tea party groups across the country requesting what have been described as owners' document
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requests, delaying approval for tax-exempt status and that kind of thing. can you elaborate on what's going on with that? can you give us assurances that the irs are not targeting particular groups based on political leanings? >> let me start by saying, yes, i can give you assurances. as you know, we pride ourselves on being a non-political, non-partisan organization. what's been happening has been the normal back and forth that happens with the irs. there is absolutely no targeting. this is the kind of back and forth that happens when people apply for 501c4. >> it's the irs commissioner who was in the george w. bush administration, also the obama administration. he may have believed that to be true when he said it, but that is not true. earlier today, an otherwise innocuous conference sponsor bid the bar association, the irs
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admitted that, yes, tea parties were singled out by at least one lower level irs employee at the irs office in cincinnati. groups with names that included tea party or patriots were singled out for tax-exempt status. at least 75 tea party groups were given this unwanted special attention, although none of them were actually denied the tax exempt status they were looking for. you cannot accept scrutiny according to where you think they are on the number line. you cannot do that to groups on the right, you cannot do that to groups on the left and vice versa. and the irs apparently now agrees. the agency has, as of today, issued an apology. they say they fixed the problem last year. they say there is an upcoming irs general audit that will look into the matter further. i mean, it's not like outing a covert cia operative or something, it's not a heck of a job brownie, but it is
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this is pop ham beach in midcoast maine where the water has been stealing back the beach at an alarming rate. what we're seeing here is not an unusually stormy day at popham beach. this is regular. this is the way it goes. in some spots, quote, there is no beach anymore at high water. here we have plum island in newberry, massachusetts. this is what happened after a storm in february when the water came in. this was the headline for plum island the next month, move it or lose it. by that they mean your house. move it or lose it because you can't stay here. this is the belt parkway in new york city. 80 years ago the city felt confident enough to build this road along the coastal southern edge of brooklyn, new york. but now it floods in heavy rain and the ocean bay seeps over it even in moderate storms. the ocean is not where we left it. it is moving on up. it turns out we are changing the climate. ask me how. you could argue that any particular disappearing beach or flooded road results from
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factors that only belong to that one place. you can argue that for a lot of individual places, but ultimately they start to add up and realize ultimately you can't argue that the earth is just getting warmer. it is getting warmer because of us. we burn fossil fuels in our cars and power plants and so on. that puts extra carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. that traps more heat in the sun than our earth is used to. because of all the carbon we're adding to the atmosphere, the earth has not been this warm in at least 4,000 years. how is that for a blunt headline? global temperature highest in 4,000 years. that news arrived a few weeks ago from oregon state. ready for your numbers from the scripps college of oceanography? the chart starts with 1960. go forward. as of april we were way up here
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in scary, scary land about to set a new threshold for carbon dioxi dioxide. the scientist who drew this chart, ralph kheeeling, said at the time, i wish it were not true, but it looks like earth is going to blow through the 400-ppm level without losing a beat. we blew through that yesterday and it looks like it will be the new normal in a hurry. we may be there now. we may have less carbon dioxide for sustained periods of time than any time in history as a species. we have had less carbon dioxide than the pliocene level when there was this guy running around at 600 miles per hour. also they are 100 feet higher than they were.
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the scientists who track this stuff say it is not time to give up yet, we can still do something. most bill circumstance but a little by policy, emissions of carbon dioxide have been falling since president obama took office. now the president may get a chance to do more, to do something big, to do something landmark that so far is not getting much public debate. jonathan writes about it in new york magazine saying, quote, this is the last best chance to deal with global warming in the obama era. the prospect for environmentalists is exhilera exhilerating but also harrowing. its outcome won't be known until the obama presidency is nearly over. here's someone with a hopeful eye on this subject. thank you for being here tonight. it's nice to have you here. >> thank you. >> can you describe what you mean by the last best chance for
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dealing with this problem? >> the obama administration has had the power to regulate carbon. in fact, the supreme court ordered the administration to deal with carbon several years ago. they tried to use it in the first term as a stick to force the power companies to agree to cap a trade. and they succeeded but they couldn't get the republicans in the senate and the house to go along with it. this was sort of thought to be a dead letter for a while, but it's become revived recently. the national resources defense council came out with a plan shortly after the election that was pretty practical for how they could use this carbon regulating authority, this power to regulate existing power plants which there's 40% of carbon emissions. so i think there are a lot of people within the environmental community who are really focusing on this and really think it could happen but it hasn't really reached into the broader narrative. >> if this is something the president could do through regulatory authority and the epa's authority alone without congress, does that mean it ends
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up in court for a generation? >> not endless litigation. it will be litigated. there's no doubt someone on the right is going to file suit. but if they put the rule into place, it gets to proceed even as it's challenged in court unless there are extraordinary circumstances. they don't get to hold it up forever. so if the obama administration goes through with this, we will know one way or another by the end of the term whether they managed to get it done. >> when you look at some of the things the obama administration has already done, in terms of working things out with congress, there is no record to speak of. but in terms of the other things they have been able to do, what are the most important things they have done and how big a dent are those things likely to make in the enormity of this problem that we face? >> the stimulus had a lot of green energy spending and we weren't focusing on it because we were focusing on the economic crisis and we all freaked out about the economic crisis, understandably. but there is a lot of green energy and that's really starting to pay some dividends. you saw the news about tesla,
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the electric car firm earning a profit, wind energy is up several times, solar power, the prices coming way down and it's really starting to take off. they've also had the epa regulate other sources of carbon besides existing power plants. they announced regulations on automobiles, the miles per gallon standards way up from 29 miles an hour to 54 miles an hour. they eliminated mercury in power plants, appliances. so they've really used this authority piecemeal here and there, but it hasn't gotten a lot of attention. there is no political drama to it. it doesn't play out in congress weeks or months. there is an announcement and it's a one-day story. >> do you think that's smart and do you think that's by design? >> yeah, i do think it's by design. the thing that's a little tricky, people are kind of blase, they don't want anything in terms of the expensive jobs. on the other hand, they do strongly support regulation by
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carbon even though they object to things like taxes. >> how does things like carbon play into this? obviously he doesn't have to talk to administration about this, but does there have to be denials against advancing this in terms of doing the regulatory work they want to do? >> no, because the legislative track is hopeless. obama officially called for congress to act, but i think that's just a way of showing that he's not taking their authority away from them, he's giving them a chance to pass a bill even though nobody thinks it will happen. honestly, i think you can go around, and if you can get the regulation in place and if it stands up, you don't need to deal with the wackos on the right. >> writer for new york magazine, i think, of uncommon clarity. jonathan chait. i enjoy your work. >> thanks. do you need the best thing in the world today? hold on, we have one for you, coming up.
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explosion that happened over the west texas fertilizer plant last month. the director of the texas department of safety has said we want to make sure no stone goes unturned and all the facts related to this incident are uncovered. so so after weeks of reports saying the blast should have been the result of some accident, they are opening a criminal investigation into the cause. that's all i can tell you about the criminal investigation. that's all we know. that said, also in west texas today, a volunteer paramedic who was one of the first people to arrive at the scene of that massive explosion, a paramedic was arrested today. he was charged with possession of a destructive device. that destructive device was a pipe bomb. authorities responded to a home in abbott, texas where they found sections of a pipe, end caps, fuses and explosive nitrate. residents of the home said this had belonged to this paramedic who had passed it on to them for
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some reason. the paramedic faces ten years in prison if convicted. so both of these things happened today in texas, and while it is weird that they happened within hours of each other, to be clear, we don't know that these two developments are connected. so far officials have not said there is any evidence uncovered indicating any connection between this man's arrest with the pipe bomb and the april 17th explosion that killed 14 people and injured around 200 people. again, no connection being drawn, but it's really weird that they happened within a couple hours of each other. also today, there is an update on a strange story that developed in the days after the boston marathon bombing last month. abc news is now reporting on what they call forensic hits, allegedly lirnking the boston bombing suspects to a triple murder that preceded them by a year and a half. this triple murder took part in
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wal walfam. it was an unsolved, brutal, strange, triple murder in which one of the victims had a reported social link to one of the alleged marathon bombers. again, abc news is now reporting that investigation is heating up. but as in the west, texas reporting today, there is no concrete link established here between these two alleged crimes. the d.a.'s office that is investigating the murder tells us tonight it remains a, quote, open and active investigation. and if that's not enough, it's been that kind of day in the news today. there is also this. we have been reporting on this story for the last couple of days. i guess you have to call it the white supremacist scandal that's at the heart of the most important piece of legislation in d.c. right now, which, of course, is the immigration reform proposal. the conservative heritage foundation think tank has sort of taken the lead on the right in trying to get republicans in congress to oppose immigration reform. but one of the co-authors of their study that trashz immigration reform and says it would be horrifically expensive,
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one of the co-authors of that report has turned out to be a real embarrassment of the heritage foundation as his past work declaring the genetic inferiority of white immigrants of the united states, iq of the latino race is being widely publicized. that previous work, led the heritage conservative foundation, leading think tank in the country to try to distance themselves from this guy in the past few days. today, that distancing themselves became more concrete when they fired him, sorry, when he resigned from heritage foundation. the other two shoes weigaiting be dropped, whether they will rescind the report that he co-wrote for them. and whether or not the other major conservative think tank that he worked for decides to denounce him as well. the other think tank, the american enterprise institute. aei and heritage foundation are the two biggest conservative
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think tanks. heritage was his employer until today, aei was his previous employer. aei today tried to distance themselves from the guy with whut supremacist links. they know nothing about his controversial views, came highly recommended and that's the reason they hired him. the problem aei has, their basic claims they had no idea his ideas were so creepy, while he was working for them at an aei sponsored event, broadcast on cspan, in case you were at work and had to watch it on tv, whiem he was working for aei, wasn't hiding his white supremacist delight under a bushel. >> race is differ in all sorts of ways, probably the most important way is in iq. decades of psycho metric testing indicated at least in america you have jews with the highest average iq, followed by east asians, then nonjewish whites, hispanics, then blacks. these are real differences,
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they're not going away tomorrow. for that reason we have to address them in our immigration discussions and debates. >> i love when the camera turns to david frum, the conservative guy moderating the panel, gets to the rankings of iq biracial group, everybody is like well, should i talk after this. jews, asians, nonjewish whites, down to the hispanics and down to the blacks. that guy was fired by the heritage foundation, sorry, he resigned from heritage foundation today. but the american enterprise institute who he was working for at that event doing his racial hierarchy of iq, they have pleaded ignorance about having any idea what his horrific beliefs actually are. we will see how long that lasts. man: how did i get here? dumb luck? or good decisions? ones i've made. ones we've all made.
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best new thing in the world today, happy friday. there are two kinds of people in the world. first kind of people that find something cool in the backyard, camping trip, side of the road. when they find something cool in the world, they collect it, bring it inside, clean it up, look at it, study it, try to figure out what it is, it becomes part of the things they own. for example, one of our producers found this in a desert in nevada. so she took it home. took it all the way home to brooklyn from nevada, she's a studier, collector. would like to know what this thing is. the second kind of people in the world, people like me who do not have a knack for finding things. part of it, i have no peripheral vision. i never notice anything. when i do, i tend to not pick things up, if i do, i tend to lose them. never end up with cool stuff myself. but i am interested in the stuff that everybody else finds. so basically you can understand that dichotomy this way. when i watch antiques road show,
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i want to see what you got. when laura watches it, she wants to go there with her stuff. tell me where the next one is. but you know what they do every year at the american museum of natural history in new york city? that's the big museum with the giant blue whale hanging from the ceiling and big dinosaur skeletons in the big front hall. arguably the greatest treasure hidden in the museum, behind the dinosaurs, tucked away out of sight of most tourists that visit, their greatest treasure, their great collection of world class scientists. and tomorrow those folks are going to be on display for something called identification day. apparently that first kind of people i mention, people that find stuff they're curious about, collect it, wonder what it is, used to -- people like that used to show up at the museum of natural history with stuff they found in the yard to try to get the museum scientists to look at them. back in 1979, because enough people were doing it it was getting annoying, the museum started inviting people to come
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in all at once, to come in, save your stuff up, come in one day a year and ask what is this thing anyway. you could get a real answer from somebody likely to know. new yorker magazine wrote about that first event and what the expert on rocks and fossils looked at in the span of a half hour. he identified a snail fossil, fossils of brachiopods, a piece of lava, a piece of a man hat and schist, limestone, piece of agate, coral, some quartz, i am going to stop there, you get the idea, it is friday, hard to pronounce. over the years, a lot of people brought in stuff to identification day they thought was important that didn't turn out to be important. but every now and again they really do find something amazing at identification day. like this thing. a couple found it on a beach in
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virginia. thought maybe it is a cow skull. turned out to be a fossilized walrus skull from the ice age, now part of the museum's collection! the point is not to identify stuff with high dollar value, the point is not to identify what gemstone that might be in grandma's ring. the point is to celebrate curiosity and tomorrow there will be somebody to look at bugs and other plants and rocks and meteorites, fossils, cultural artifacts. the museum asks if you have an animal to ask about, bring a picture, leave the carcass at home. in return for you showing your stuff, they'll display some of its stuff, including some of teddy roosevelt's collection, birds he stuffed himself when he was 12 years old, as you do. basically antiques road show for science, whether or not you are the person with the junk or
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amazed by the people that kept the junk, turns out sometimes the junk needs to be in the museum. only way you can find out is by taking it there tomorrow. best new thing in the world today, tomorrow. that does it for us tonight. see you monday. now you know what time it is. you have been good but still have to go to prison. there are two million behind bars in america. we open the gates. "lockup." >> against the wall. >> would i kill somebody? if i had to. >> you got seven layers of skin to go through before you get to the bone. >> there's nothing goes on that at least one gang member is not involved with. nothing. >> the outside world probably don't want to know what goes on in here. >> these places can
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