tv MSNBC Live MSNBC May 15, 2013 8:00am-9:01am PDT
8:00 am
my question isn't about who's going to resign. my question is who's going to jail over this scandal? >> john boehner dishing out his toughest red meat rhetoric. hi, everybody, good morning. topping the agenda today, the president's horrible, no good, terrible, very bad week and it's only wednesday. there's no let up for the white house. politico's website completely dominating story after story about the threat of trouble facing the west wing. the word scandal like a record stuck on repeat. republicans are striking while the iron is hot. >> the obama administration has valueded its agenda more than it's credibility. without credibility, we will never regain the president's
8:01 am
trust. >> the president would be hard pressed to find anybody who has his back, even members of his own party saying he has damage control to do. >> i'm confident that the president is angry as hell about this as he should be. he has to come forward and give more of an answer than he has done. >> here's the latest at this hour. the fbi and justice department have both launched criminal investigations into the irs' special scrutiny after a group found inappropriate criteria used to single out organizations, necessary gathered and insufficient oversight. president obama reacting with the strongest statement to date saying quote, the report's findings are intolerable and inexcusable and in two hours, the man heading the justice department will be at a hearing on capitol hill. eric holder facing calls for his job over the fed's seizure of associated press phone records, a scandal holder distanced himself from in just a last 24
8:02 am
hours. >> i don't know all that went into the formulation of the subpoena. this was a very serious leak. you're getting into matters beyond my knowledge. i was recused in the matter so i don't know. >> joining me now is shawn spicer, communications director for the republican national committee, the head of the rnc, reince priebus is calling for holder to resign. as we're seeing the attorney general going on to describe the leak saying it's one of the most serious he'd ever seen. i want to play for everybody just a little bit more of what eric holder had to say yesterday. >> put the american people at risk and that is not hyperbole. put the american people at risk and trying to determine who's responsible for that i think required very aggressive action. >> given his words and the fact he did have to recuse himself,
8:03 am
why is reince still calling for the ouster because they were so agreenlgs, so serious. >> good morning, thomas, thanks. when truman was president, his mantra was the buck stops here. we only found out where the buck was by watching it through news reports. there is no sense of responsibility to take control of any of the events, whether it's the irs scandal, the ap scandal. everyone's saying it's not my fault, i'm not responsible. it was my deputy. someone else was looking after it. at some point, we've got to start asking who is in control. where does the buck stop. who knows where it has. those are all those kinds of questions in each of these scandals that goes through each one, that no one seems to know who was running the show and who's going to take responsib
8:04 am
responsibility. >> so, when we talk about again, this is concerning the ap with eric holder, then there's the irs issue and republicans are certainly taking the opportunity to talk about this and pounce on what are the details in this, at least as they've emerged so far. this could be truly election gold for mitch mcconnell, who's been very forceful on this. i want to play for everybody what he had to say about this from the senate floor. >> the administration needs to make witnesses available to testify on this. and on any other incident of targeting the administration's id logical opponents. today, other senate republicans are joining me in this call. more than 40 members have signed a letter demanding as much of the president. >> so, we have congressman jason chafe its using the word impeachment. charles krauthammer has come out on fox news saying he doesn't want to see republicans overplaying their hand on this one and they might need to dial it back. do you think there is the perception being that they may
8:05 am
overplay their hand on this? let the facts emerge, then take it from there. >> i think you opened your show with charlie rangel saying this isn't acceptable and the president needs to be more forthcoming. we're not out on an island on our own on this one. everyone from the far left to the middle to the right is in agreement that there are a ton of questions that still need to be answered. this is not a republican thing. this is an american thing. people all around academics to politicians to every day citizens saying what's going on with our government? there are a lot of questions that need to be answered. >> i want to get you on the record about what we're seeing coming out of florida. there is this story about the repair of the image that we've been talking about since the rnc revuled the results of the election and what can be done to
8:06 am
bring big mantra. that the former hispanic outreach aide in florida has become a democrat and writing to his supporters that it doesn't take much to see the culture of intolerance, what's your response to the fact this person was working an outreach for you and has come out strongly wanting to work for the democrats. >> one of the things priebus has done as you stated, made a huge, historic investment in trying to reach out to places that we haven't and done things to grow this party. it's important because we haven't won in the popular vote in five of the last six elections. that's something we are making historic -- we hope they return and we hope more come with regard to the specific question we have though, this individual just to be clear, was on payroll
8:07 am
with the party for ten weeks last year. he left in july of 2012 and in the last several weeks has been applying for jobs at republican institutions, including this one. i believe in this specific instance, this is more on this individual not getting a job than having a particular problem because he has sent several e-mails in the last several weeks applying for jobs at republican institutions, so i'm not really sure how that seems to jive. i think in this case, it might be more of sour grapes because of a failure to get employment. >> thanks for making time for me today. i appreciate it. >> absolutely. thanks, thomas. >> so, there are lots of questions today about what kind of action needs to be taken to restore trust in the irs. sander levin said the two senior officials need to be let go. >> based on the report of the inspector general, i think there's reason to believe that
8:08 am
mr. miller should be released of his responsibilities. >> i'd like to bring in to the conversation, richard blumenthal of connecticut. sir, it's good to have you with me this morning. as you listen to sander levin there, do you think that's enough for you about those two people being let go? does that go far enough? >> we need more facts and the department of justice appropriately has launched a criminal investigation. there needs to be criminal accountability by any irs officials. at the very minimum, certainly, dismissal is warranted. if the facts are as they've been alleged that there have been very serious enfridngement of these guidelines. >> you know, as we've been talking about the attorney general's going to be in the hot seat this afternoon, but he's already come out to say there will be ab inquiry into the irs
8:09 am
scandal. given what's going on in consideration to the ap subpoena scandal, do you think the justice department can fairly investigate on this issue and that they can go with both of these with the same ferver? >> that is an absolutely critical question because the department of justice would be investigating its own practices in connection with a subpoena that was very wide ranging and it's self-involved a highly confidential investigation into leaks and as a former federal prosecutor, united states attorney, i don't minimize the sensitivity of the invest gigatn and need to get the facts, but the department of justice also owes the american people the facts that justified this very apparently sweeping subpoena, which is troubling because of its potential chilling effect on news gathering as well as privacy, so the department of
8:10 am
justice has to be more forthcoming with facts. has to launch a credible inquiry whether it's called an investigation or not, that will verify whether its own guidelines were followed and whether any other laws may be im implicated. as you talk about the sweeping action that was taken by the department of justice, the deputy attorney general, james m. cole, said the fbi subpoenaed records after they conducted more than 550 interviews and reviewed tens of thousands of documents. explain to us because eric holder is sayi ining this was sa serious, serious leak. we know about the secret subpoenas and what was done, but we don't have a whistleblower, any information about where this was coming from. do you know anything revealed by their investigation that would lead them in the right direction of figuring out who it was? >> all i know is what's been made public so far, but one of the rules is that the department
8:11 am
of justice seeks subpoenas of news gathering organizations or is permitted to do so, only when it is exhausted all of the other available sources of information. and the facts that would warrant that conclusion simply have been saved so far. they've conducted a lot of investigations, explored a lot of avenues, but the requirement is that it be narrowly targeted, very narrowly framed and that it be used only as a last resort and alternative and i think that the department of justice has to be more forthcoming with fact. >> thanks for your time. >> thank you. so, the military on its heels in the wake of another sexual assault case. this time, involving an army sergeant accused of sexual contact and helping to run an army prostitution ring. plus, another bombshell from
8:12 am
angelina jolie. the actress is now going to undergo more surgery to stave off cancer. we're going to talk to a woman who decided to have a double mastectomy and our big question is is the president ultimately to blame for the current white house scandals? chime in on my twitter or our facebook page. man: the charcoal went out already? ... forget it. vo: there's more barbeque time in every bag of kingsford original charcoal. kingsford. slow down and grill. that's not much, you think. except it's 2% every year. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you. iti had[ designer ]eelingms, enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i decided enough is enough. ♪ [ spa lady ] i started enbrel. it's clinically proven to provide clearer skin. [ rv guy ] enbrel may not work for everyone --
8:13 am
and may not clear you completely, but for many, it gets skin clearer fast, within 2 months, and keeps it clearer through 6 months. [ male announcer ] enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events, including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders, and allergic reactions have occurred. before starting enbrel, your doctor should test you for tuberculosis and discuss whether you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. you should not start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. tell your doctor if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, or if you have symptoms such as persistent fever, bruising, bleeding, or paleness. if you've had enough, ask your dermatologist about enbrel. your chance to rise and shine. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you can do just that. with our visionary cloud infrastructure, global broadband network and custom communications solutions,
8:14 am
your business is more reliable - secure - agile. and with responsive, dedicated support, we help you shine every day of the week. i gotta go deposit a check, transfer some money. so it's your uncle's turn. what? wait, wait, wait... no, no, no, wait, wait. (baby crying) so you can deposit a check... with the touch of a finger.
8:15 am
so you can arrange a transfer in the blink of an eye. so you can help make a bond... i got it. that lasts a lifetime. the chase mobile app. so you can. so, are all scandals created equally and what will happen to the president's agenda and beyond? and some good news for the president that's taken second stage. those are the hot topics today coming from our panel. gang, it is great to have you here and aaron, i want to start with you because it is really an
8:16 am
interesting question about whether all scandals are created equally and we've got this new rnc web video out today. we just had shawn spicer on talking about this, where does the buck stop with this white house. take a look though at the new web video. >> way to make government reasonable is to hold it accountable. for a long time now, there's been too much secrecy. i will also hold myself as president to a new standard of openness. >> those are the president's words from 2009. are they going to come back to bite him now? has he done enough to stay in front of these issues that keep coming left and right in the days to come, i mean, this is only wednesday and it's one hell of a week so far. >> that's true, i think there's a temptation to kind of tie everything up in a neat bow and say scandal, all of these issues are the same. with benghazi, republicans have not really found a smoking gun. i don't understand what they are accusing the president of doing. with the irs, there are troubles
8:17 am
questions about whether tea party groups were targeted. with the ap, to me personally as a journalist, it is more disturbing that there is a serial pattern in the administration of going after leaks and whistleblowers. for republicans, it would be pretty hypocritical for them to pretend to care about it since they called for the investigations in the first place. it's one thing to call the president out. it's absolutely necessary for them to make him accountable for previous comments, but they're hardly ones to throw stones. >> it was last year about this time that the right that is was asking a lot of questions of the white house and the fact that it had a problem with leaks and trying to get to the bottom of it. they even accused the president of being the one in the administration of setting these leaks out into the public on their own. i want to play eric holder responding to the question over civil liberties and what this administration feels toward those. take a look. >> i'm proud of what we have done. the policies that we put in
8:18 am
place with regard to let's say the war on terror. we decided that certain interrogation techniques were not going to be used. we have been very aggressive in our enforcement of the civil rights laws. >> so there, they have a lot to be proud of, but when it comes to the ap situation and the fact we know that eric holder has recused of this and we're finding out more and more of what these subpoenas meant, we don't have any more information about were they able to find a whistleblower. would that legitimize any of this if they were bringing somebody forward and say we plugged the leak because of such and such? >> i don't think so because i think the concern is is just with the extraordinary breadth of this subpoena, multiple phone lines, a couple of months and i think people are concerned and rightly so about the chilling effect on investigative journ
8:19 am
journali journalism, the chilling effect over the long run, which i think outweighs any individual leaks, so to me, this is the most disturbing of the scandals, but it's also important to heb this is remember this is the one that is hardest to connect back up directly to the president because as there should be, there's a division between the president and the white house and the prosecutorial decisions on individual cases made by the justice department. you wouldn't want the president saying here's the case you should prosecute. here's how you should prosecute it and getting involved in these kinds of decisions. >> let's talk about charles krauthammer, you turned me on to what he had said on fox, saying the one bit of advice i give to republicans is to stop calling it a huge scandal, stop calling it watergate, iran contra, let the facts speak for themselves. have a special committee. there is a lot of ground to be gained by the republicans on
8:20 am
this and we had senator roger wicker on the dale li rundown talking about what this means to the obama agenda moving forward. >> i can't imagine that this is irs scandal and the controversy surrounding the overreach and intimidation by the irs is going to do anything but pour cold water on the president's attempt to raise taxes as part of a fwrand bargain. >> so, let's talk about that. how does this really push the progress of what the president has? and there's a very short time before the midterms come up for the president to get anything done, especially when it comes to immigration reform, which people thought we could get done, but even on gun reform and whether or not we can see a grand bargain. >> i think that's absolutely right. when you look at all scandals are not created equal, but when you look at the totality of what we're dealing with and what the white house is dealing with this week, it's clear this is all anyone's talking about. the president can try to talk about immigration reform. there was a major mark up in the
8:21 am
senate yesterday. nobody paid attention to it. you can try to talk about background checks. there are several senators trying to cut a deal on gun sale background checks. that's not being talked about today. all anyone's talking about and all the republicans particularly want to talk about are these scandals. particularly the latter two. the irs situation as well as the ap wiretaps. those things people are very concerned about. and as long as they're talking about that, president obama's agenda is sidetracked right now and it's going to be hard to get that back on track. until we stop talking about these two issues. >> hopefully, we can get some facts that come forward that help deflate some of the attention, but they are necessary topics that need to be discussed because they have the media's attention, the left's attention, the right's attention. one thing you talked about that is getting no one's attention is that the budget deficit reductions are coming in way lower than forecast in february. this normally would be hot news to talk about, however, it's really making back burner.
8:22 am
when it comes to where we are today. >> these are really dramatic new numbers. talking about a revision. in this fiscal year, $200 billion lower the deficit's going to be than a couple of months ago and by 2015, we'll be talking about deficits in the realm of $300 billion and in the face of this, with millions of people still unemployed, with the unemployment rates up over 7%, we're not doing more to get people back to work. and we're still focused on deficit reduction when we see that even projecting out over several years, it's even a conservative economist, no one would argue these levels of debt that we're seeing in 2015 now are not at a sustainable level. >> is there a way for the obama administration to try to steal some of the attention away from the irs, benghazi?
8:23 am
benghazi's not as topical because of what's coming forward about the irs. >> i wish the case for the sort of deficit hawk hysteria had anything to do with facts. we just saw one of the major papers that was brought up at a rationale for his obsession for cutting the deficit and the debt. we saw that disproved. so unfortunately, this has always been about a radical agenda. today, this afternoon, house republicans are going to meet to continue at the leadership of paul ryan, to continue with their gent. being concerned about the deficit sounds better than saying let's lower taxes on the rich and starve the poor, but i doubt we'll see that going away anytime soon. >> what could the white house do to steal back some of the attention steered in the positive direction? >> i think the first thing many people have looked at is that president obama did not respond to the irs situation quickly enough. obviously, yesterday and again today, he's responded forcefully, got the treasury
8:24 am
secretary on this situation, so i think what most americans are looking for is that if there's a problem, that he addresses it quickly and moves on. there's some hints now that there may be somebody fired at the irs for some of the problems identified in the inspector generals report that came out yesterday. those types of things will help him move on. i think the issue with the associated press, that might linger for a little bit longer, but the more obama speaks about his agenda, you go back to history, it was successful for bill clinton to talk about the work he had to do for the american people. if president obama does that as well, he might be able to move on from this scandal as well. >> thanks so much for your time. great to have you all three here. thanks again. for the first time ever, former football star o.j. simpson is about to take the stand. we're going to hear more about the strange hotel room conversation that sent him to prison and his fight to get out of jail before his death.
8:25 am
if you've got it, you know how hard it can be to breathe and man, you know how that feels. copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours. you know, spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. nothing can reverse copd. spiriva helps me breathe better. does breathing with copd weigh you down? don't wait to ask your doctor about spiriva.
8:27 am
how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪
8:28 am
chuck haguer taking action. this happened in the air force just last week. so what can be done? we're going to speak with a congresswoman who has introduced three bills on that issue, plus, o.j. simpson on the stand. it's going to happen for the first time ever in just a few minutes as he tries to win his freedom. we take you there for a live report and is the president ultimately to blame for the current scandals plaguing the white house? how many simple ingredients
8:31 am
does your dog food have? 30? 20? new purina one beyond has 9. the simplified purina one beyond. learn more about these wholesome ingredients at purinaone.com constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. a military member is accused
8:32 am
of committing that exact crime himself. the pentagon says the coordinator of ft. hood's sexual assault prevention program allegedly forced at least one subordinate soldier into prostitution and sexually assaulted two others. chuck hagel announced two measures to combat the crisis in the next week. >> i'm announcing a new series of actions to further dod sexual assault and prevention efforts. i'm directing the military services to align their programs with a revised sexual assault prevention and response strategic plan. >> joining me now is california congresswoman, jackie spear. it's good to have you. here we go once again. seems like we're a broken record. >> bad movie. >> two weeks, two unthinkable cases of military members in charge of protecting and preventing sexual abuse being violators, accused of that themselves. and defense secretary hague eel ordered all personnel be rescreened. that is a good first step, but
8:33 am
it's not enough. >> the sad part of all this is that they already go through 80 hours of training and a background check, so we now i guess are looking at doing a psychological evaluation because what i think we're going to start to find out is that those who gravitate to these posts, gravitate to them because then they can be praying on victims. >> when we talk about the fact that there are now five women in the senate armed services committee, among them, kristen gillibrand who released a statement last night calling for the removal of the chain of command in criminal cases like this. we also know that leon panetta, after seeing the academy award documentary, the invisible war, made changes last year regarding chain of command cases and thousand they're prosed. what is the chance of how that can be implemented properly so women in the military don't have to be subjected to situations like this. >> i've introduced legislation
8:34 am
through two cycles of congress to take it out of the chain of command because i believe very strongly that that's the only way we are going to fix this. our system is based on the british system, the british got this message long ago and changed it in 1995 and took these cases out of the chain of command and it's working there. i don't understand why the military keeps dragging its feet in doing this. it doesn't mean that the chain of command isn't going to be there in many situations. it will continue to still be available to those in leadership, but not when it comes to sexual assault cases because assailant is in the chain of command or a friend of the chain of command or you've got a commander who wants to be promoted and once they see that you have a sexual assault under your watch, it may in fact jeopardize your promotion. >> and while the facts of this case still come out and
8:35 am
certainly have people's attention there on the hill, the fact that there have been scandals that have been revealed this week, one after the other involving the irs coming off the heels of what we've learned about the ap, and benghazi in and of itself, people still having questions about that. we have "the washington post" columnist dana milbank calls president obama the uninterested president. do you feel as that your opinion of the president is being too passive in trying to go head first into these scandals and give people at least the american people, trust back in big government? because it seems as if the obama administration is getting the perception that they are not trusteded within the american people. >> well, i think it's important, thomas, to first point out that he wanted to have a hands off relationship with justice. precisely because during the bush administration, there's a lot of manipulation of justice, so for justice to do its job,
8:36 am
for justice to be blind, he wanted to keep his hands off of that operation. in terms of speaking up and speaking strongly about his disgust with what's going on in the military, with what's going on in the irs, he's been very vocal about that in the last few days, so i think that you're going to see a tougher, stronger president moving forward. >> always a pleasure to have you on. thanks for your time. just minutes from now, o.j. simpson, one of the nation's most famous prisoners, takes the stand in a vegas courtroom. expected to deliver dramatic testimony in a bid to win his freedom. leanne greg is live at the courthouse and this is the first time we're going to have actually heard from o.j. in the last five years. explain what we're going to learn from his testimony, what he's hoping for and what lawyers expect him to say. >> thomas, for the first time, he'll publicly explain what happened the night that led to
8:37 am
his arrest and conviction on the kidnapping and robbery charges. he's hoping to get a new trial claiming his lawyers were so incompetent that it was unfair. he will claim that his lead attorney never told him about a plea deal that he would have accepted. he also will say he knew ahead of time about his plan to go and retrieve items that he thought were his from that hotel room. the nevada supreme court has already denied his appeal in 2010. his request for one, so this could be his last chance to get out of prison. he's served close to five years already of a nine to 33-year sentence and he's not eligible for parole until serving nine years. he would be 70 years old at that time, so it's possible if he doesn't succeed here, that he could die behind bars. his attorney says he's well prepared. they've prepped him and he's not anxious, they say. he's looking forward to telling his side of the story. tomorrow, the man he accuses of
8:38 am
incompetence, his former attorney, is expected to testify and tell his version of what happened. >> thanks so much. if you watch one thing today, it should be this story of a handful of heroes from the water town, mass police department. bombs exploded and four days later, watertown police found themselves in a fierce gun battle. >> when does this shift from you got incoming bullets to suddenly, there's bombs. >> almost like 30 seconds. >> 30 seconds. we were standing next to each other and i think we both saw something flying through the air. at least i think i said something to you, sarge, we got to move and there was a big explosion. when we kept running back and forth into the back trying to
8:39 am
get to cover. >> who do you think is the next person who gets there on the scene? >> these two. >> officer koas i make it on de avenue, i can hear the shots. right now what i saw when he came in, he was beyond his cruiser, then i saw sergeant mcclellan behind his cruiser and they were both exchanging gunfire and i just fear that he di not have the right cover at that time, so i placed my cruiser right in between his cruiser and officer reynolds' cruiser. i just -- my first thing again, take fire away from him. i opened the door, put the spotlight towards them and received fire right away and then i saw a round behind the vehicle, my car. a few rounds, then i see something thrown at us. i can only see the fuse. almost something light up and go on off in the middle of the
8:40 am
road. >> it's a great interview. you can watch the last word weeknights at 10:00 eastern. just like angelina. we're going to talk with a woman who decided to have a double mastectomy and ovarian surgery after losing several women in her family to cancer. so, what do women in their shoes need to know? plus, lowering the limit. we're going to hear from one group that is calling the ntsb vote, urging states to lower the limit. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. vo: opportunity, that's the real walmart.
8:41 am
8:42 am
tens of thousands of dollars in hidden fees on their 401(k)s?! go to e-trade and roll over your old 401(k)s none of them charge annual fees and all of them offer low cost investments. e-trade. less for us. more for you. and all of them offer low cost investments. help the gulf recover, andnt to learn from what happenedg goals: so we could be a better, safer energy company. i've been with bp for 24 years. i was part of the team that helped deliver on our commitments to the gulf - and i can tell you, safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge safety equipment and technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all our drilling activity, twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned,
8:43 am
so we can all produce energy more safely. safety is a vital part of bp's commitment to america - and to the nearly 250,000 people who work with us here. we invest more in the u.s. than anywhere else in the world. over fifty-five billion dollars here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. one day after angelina jolie shocked the world, she's making another stunning announcement. telling people magazine she's planning to have her ovaries removed to stave off cancer. tuesday's hottest search on google was the angelina jolie news and the newspaper covers say it all.
8:44 am
those words from jolie's other half, brad pitt. jolie's revelation has prompted my next guests to open up about their own experiences of undergoing a mastectomy. joining me now is allison gilbert. like angelina jolie, allison lost her mom to cancer in her 50s, tested positive for brca1 and like angelina jolie, she elected to undergo a double mastectomy. it's nice to have you here and we appreciate your honesty on this subject. in the op-ed, she say the decision to have this mastectomy wasn't easy, so walk us through what the emotional, the mental status is for a woman to elect to have that that of surgery on healthy breast tissue at the time. >> it's so loaded. there's nothing more personal. having to look to the world in
8:45 am
how you perceive yourself, but i think the difficulty comes even before the operation. it's deciding what to do with that constant fear. my mom died of ovarian cancer, my grandmother had breast cancer and died, so i felt like there is a target on me for my entire adult life. i knew i had to go something and not just for me, but for my kids. >> as you talk about in the book, parentless parents, angelina jolie is in this situation, she wrote about her kids in the op-ed. how do you think that her coming forward to talk so openly and honorsly about this helps to aliveuate any stigma for women faced with this and want to walk through this with a brave face, but know that it challenges their femme nenty in some way. >> i think it's really empowering. anytime a celebrity is courageous enough to go forward and admit what they're going through on a personal level is empoweri
8:46 am
empowering, but with angelina being so brave to come and share it is that more information will kind of bubble up to the surface, so those women who want the details, it's scary, but now, hopefully more information will be readily available. >> one thing that is empowering is how she describes the conversation she has with her kids saying i can tell my children they don't need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer. they can see my small scars and that's it. everything else is just mommy. the same as she always was. what is your advice to moms out there. >> i totally relate. not much i relate to with angelina jolie, but that's what i told my own kids. i told them i want to be around for you as long as humanly possible. i don't want to have what happened to grandma, to your mom, it's for you. i want to do this for you, but more importantly, what i told my
8:47 am
daughter, i want her in particular to see that her mother is is not passive. that you are proactive. that you don't have to wait and see what happens to you in life, you can take the bull by the horns, see fear in the face, get the information ne then make decisions that hopefully will be life changing and life affirming. >> great to have you here. thanks for your work on this. the book that you have out is calleded "parentless parents." thanks for your honesty. >> time for today's producers pick and it was a team effort today and with good reason because there's big money involved. it's tonight's power ball jackpot, now up to $360 million with a cash value of just over 229 million. that makes it the third largest jackpot ever in u.s. history. read more about it on twitter or just buy a ticket of f your own and if you win, please don't forget about me. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health
8:48 am
plays a key role throughout our lives. one a day men's 50+ is a complete multivitamin designed for men's health concerns as we age. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. one a day men's 50+. it has 7 antioxidants to support cell health. still doesn't feel real. our time together was... so short. well, since you had progressive's total loss coverage, we were able to replace your totaled bike with a brand-new one. the tank, the exhaust... well, she looks just like roxy! you know, i'll bet she's in a better place now. i'm sure she is. [ ethereal music plays ]
8:51 am
all right. so we asked and you answered on you big question today -- is the president ultimately to blame chad wrote on facebook -- no, he can't possibly be involved in every decision made by every government agency. we ask you to keep the comments coming in. and this one -- as a supporter of the president, i say he's fully responsible for the scandals. i've got to say as i'm looking at my twitter feed, you don't like us using the word "scandal" today, you don't think it's propose. a new proposal to stop drunk driving is getting some pushback right now the ntsb is urging states to lower from the 0.08 to
8:52 am
0.05. that's the level the agency says many can be affected. many say -- sara longwell is the managing director of the american beverage institute. a shot while ago the chairman spoke out on "jansing & company" say they're not trying to targets people who drink responsibly. i want to remind everybody of what she said. >> this is a risk we don't have to take. we kill too many people every year. if we want that to change, we've got to do things differently. >> you've said this is ludicrous, but each year nearly 10,000 people die in alcohol-related incidents, so why not take this step? it seems very small, but seems like it could make a very big difference. >> the reason why we call this proposal ludicrous is that it targets the wrong people. even mothers against drunk driving isn't supporting this.
8:53 am
this targetses moderate social drinkers instead of targeting the hard-core drunk drivers. the reason we still have a problem is too often we're focusing on the moderate social drinkers and not enough on the hard-core drunk drivers that cause the -- fewer than 1% of the deaths out in the highway happened in that range. the vast majority of them happen at really high levels. the average bac of somebody is 0.16% nearly twice the legal limit. if we don't start focusing on thousands people, we will not fix this problem. >> if alcoholism is considered and you're sailing people drinking to excess, if it is kerr considered to be a progressive disease isn't there a fine line and crossing that line to be on the slippery slope toward being more of a hard partying binge drinker? >> this is like saying people
8:54 am
are driving through an intersection going 80 miles an hour, so to solve the problem you're going to lower the speed limit from 35 to 25. there were some recommendations in the ntsb's proposal that made sense and that did targets the high repeat offenders, like leaving ignition locks on for a much longer period of time. that makes sense, that targetses the problem, but going down to 0.05. that's a woman with a single glass of wine with dinner. that's not a solution to the problem, and it is going to have a negative impact on the hospitality industry while not having a positive aspect on traffic safety. >> certainly alcohol affects everyone differently. experts say to hit the on.05, that would be about four beers for a 30 years old at 180 pounds, only two glasses of wine for a 130-pound woman. what kind of responsibility would lowering this number place on restaurant and bars, as you point out? >> what it would do is have a chilling effect on our
8:55 am
customers. they wouldn't feel comfortable having a those are based on a 90-minute estimate. this would keep people from feeling comfortable saying i'm being to have a glass of wine with my steak, because i could get locked up for doing so. so it really criminalizes perfectly responsible behavior. it's really a bad proposal. again, like i said, even groups like madd aren't supporting this. i don't think the public's going to support this. >> sara longwell, thanks for making time for me. i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. that's going to wrap things up here. thanks for your time. see you back tomorrow. among our guests lo receipta sanchez on sexual assaults in the military. congressman keith ellison on the i.r.s. and a.p. scandals and joy ann reed. but "now with alex wagner" is coming up. >> hey, thomas, the white house is playing a game of fierce defense in the wake of the a.p. leak story, but some of the
8:56 am
administration's harsh zest critics are actually the same ones that wanted a crackdown in the first place. we will talk transparency with frayed rudy. catty kay and heather mcgee. plus secrets and wikileaks with alux gib any, and carol rosenberg joins us with the latest on the hungers strike and forecast on its future. all of that is coming up next. es available out there. i knew devry university would give me the skills that i needed to make one of those tech jobs mine. we teach cutting-edge engineering technology, computer information systems, networking and communications management -- the things that our students need to know in the world today. our country needs more college grads to help fill all the open technology jobs. to help meet that need, here at devry university, we're offering $4 million dollars in tech scholarships for qualified new students. learn more at devry.edu. for qualified new students. do we hano.a mower? a trimmer? no. we got nothing. we just bought our first house, we're on a budget.
8:57 am
we're not ready for spring. well let's get you ready. very nice. you see these various colors. got workshops every saturday. yes, maybe a little bit over here. summer's here. so are the savings. not bad. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. get special buys on select toro products, like this self propelled mower just $274. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment.
8:58 am
8:59 am
9:00 am
targeting conservatives. my question isn't about who will resign. my question is who's going to jail over this scandal? >> the president has to come forward and share why he did not alert the press they were going to do this. he has to tell america, this national security question. you just can't raise the flag and expect us to salute it every time. >> washington gone wild is whatten kansasens are thinking. it makes us miss the days of harry truman when the buck stops at the president 'office. taking a beat for the justice department's seizures of associated press phone records. the "new york times" editorial board writing -- the obama administration which has a chilling zeal for secretly combing through the phone
125 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC West Television Archive Television Archive News Search Service The Chin Grimes TV News ArchiveUploaded by TV Archive on