warfare. who is being reasonable here, who is being fair? that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. tonight's lead, forget the hype, get the facts. republicans have gone from peddling their bogus scandals but they are coming up dry. tod today right wing republicans after mid-level irs official walked out on a house hearing after refusing to answer questions but the real point was that the republicans totally failed to connect the controversy to the president. >> who nominated you to be head of the irs? >> president bush. >> are you biased against conservative groups?

>> no. >> do you think they deserve more scrutiny than liberal or progressive goods? >> no. >> did you ever order irs employees to target conservative groups? >> no. >> did you ever receive instructions from anyone at the white house to target conservative groups? >> no. >> that's the real story here. no conspiracy, no coverup, no nothing. the american people trust this president. a recent poll shows the approval rating at 53%. 53%. that's a higher percentage than on election day. in fact, this approval rating is 2% higher than the president had back in april. last night, a big victory for this president. a senate panel approved the

immigration reform bill with some key republican votes and a joyous reaction from the crowd. [ chanting ] [ speaking in foreign language ] >> yes, we can. it's a huge step forward from what could be the top achievement of the president's second term. republicans are obsessed with the irs and benghazi and a host of other conspiracy theories but the president and the american people know what's really important. joining me now is adam shift who today in a closed door briefing on benghazi was there and here with me in my msnbc studios is

my colleague, karen finney. thank you both for your time tonight. >> you bet. >> congressman, are republicans overreaching with all of these accusations and conspiracy theories about the president? >> yes, i think they are. this is no more true than with respect to the whole benghazi investigation. we heard testimony yet again from the intelligence committee yet again that there was no political spin, no bias or effort to protect hillary clinton or barack obama, that the talking points were written by the intelligence committee, there were revisions made under the supervising capability for political, nonlegitimate reasons. so if anyone was still interested, once again debunked the idea that these were spun somehow. >> but this is not just a

normal, casual thing, congressman. they raked over the coals and yet they will still not apologize where no one has linked any of this to the white house or to susan rice. and the question of whether they would apologize to susan rice, mccain, no, of course not. >> they really do owe her an apology. suggesting that she had spun the talking points. this was the intelligence committee's best estimate at the time. and certain parts he a it didn't begin as a protest and at the time they thought it had and they had intelligence and other

material that led them to that conclusion but susan rice said they relied on their best estimate and how can you fall ter for that? now the intelligence committee has testified repeatedly on this. it has completely exonerated susan rice. they had no role in the talking points. she wasn't spinning them. she was accurately conveying what was contained within those talking points, created by the intelligence committee. i think she's owed an apology. >> karen, there's almost an obsession that they must lay everything at the foot of the president. they can't just say something is amiss here. even senator mitch mcconnell, when pressed on this on "meet the press" about the scandals and accusing the president, let me show you this exchange. >> there is a culture of intimidation throughout the administration. the irs was the most recent example. >> do you have any evidence that the president of the united states directed what you call a culture of intimidation at the

irs to target political opponents? >> i don't think we know what the facts are. >> that hasn't stopped you from accusing? >> you know, it's so offensive because clearly what they are trying to do is link all of this together and by innuendo make it seem as though this culture of intimidation, they are trying to instill culture of corruption. in 2005 and 2006, we're talking about tom delay, we were talking about a white house that outed a cia operative in a time of war. why? for their own politics. so when we were talking about a culture of corruption, there really were crimes being committed. here it's like they are trying to throw as much innuendo, when you ask them, okay, what's the evidence as david just did, all they can say is we have to keep investigating and yet everything

we find out continues to, particularly in benghazi -- >> but it's even a step beyond that because congressman you not only have accusations that were made from one party to another where we talked about things that ended up being the case, you don't even have accusers here. i'm not talking about where a guy makes an accusation against the white house or the president or susan rice or whomever and ends up not being true, we don't have anyone going before the congress or the public saying this is what the white house did. this is all made up. >> that's exactly right. and i think that was such a paralyzing moment when david gregory asked that question. they don't have evidence and they don't have anyone that has come forward to say, oh, yes, the white house instructed us to do this or we were pressured to do that. the irs isn't suggesting any kind of direction from the white house. it just seemed ludicrous.

it doesn't matter anymore. it's on the hill and it's become such an etipathy towards the president with no little proof whatsoever, it's part of this institution, which is tragic because the american people want us working on jobs. >> right. >> they want us working on immigration reform, on responsible gun safety bills and instead all they are getting is baseless accusation against the white house. >> and it is driving the his tear ricks again on the tea party side. >> yeah. >> look at some of the signs they had. said, irss with a nazi-style double s. pointing a gun at the head of a person in a wheelchair and another said, "obama plus irs equals tyranny." this is way odd stuff here. >> it is. and we saw way out odd stuff from the tea party in 2010 and

leading up to that. look, this is part of the overreach that we've been talking about. the thing is, there was clearly something wrong at what happened with the irs. but was it president obama? no. i think what we know is a bureaucrat somewhere made a bad decisions and then tried to -- >> under the decision of a bush-appointed republican. >> that's exactly right. again, there's no accuser. there's no evidence of particular wrongdoing. it plays into a particular paranoia of some of the tea party folks but that's not necessarily evidence that there's a crime committed by the president. >> right. >> more, they are using it as an excuse to go back to something that is very harsh and racist rhetoric. >> when you look at the facts, yes, there is something wrong, those in the white house to defend themselves against the imagination and hallucinations of the republican leadership in

the senate and the congress. congressman shift, karen finney -- >> i was going to say, there's another casualty here, too, and that is, we need the irs to go against one of these sham 504 organizations. >> that's right. >> and they are all too happy to intimidate the irs from enforcing those laws equally, but enforcing them. they have to be enforced. fwhe we need to put a stop to that practice. >> i promise you, we're going to keep an eye on that and not let it happen. thank you for your time. ahead, a stunning twist in the boston bombing. new evidence may link the dead terrorist to an horrific triple murder months earlier. plus, gop history on disaster relief. since when did that become a red state, blue state issue?

then, there's this -- >> look, i made some big mistakes and i know i've let a lot of people down. i've also learned some big lessons. i'm running for mayor and i'm hoping to get a second chance to work for you. >> anthony weiner is back and running for office. but wait until you hear what the clintons are saying. stay with us. [ male announcer ] house rule number 53.

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we're learning more about the devastation oklahoma

tornado. 23 of the 24 victims have been positively identified. ten of those killed were children. the youngest were and president obama will get a firsthand look when he tours the devastation. but he's already made it clear. oklahoma will get every resource they need. it doesn't matter that this is a red state. it doesn't matter that the president lost by 33 points in 2012. politics shouldn't matter when americans are need. and mostly it doesn't. but tell that to many in the gop this time around. most are eager to give and they should be.

yet they don't see the hypocrisy. >> that was totally different. they had things in the virgin islands, putting roofs on things in washington, d.c., everybody was getting in and exploiting the tragedy that took place. that won't happen in oklahoma. >> see, it's totally different but the hypocrisy doesn't end there. senator john mccain voted against sandy aid but this time he wouldn't insist on offsets, saying it's not a priority. tragedy doesn't discriminate and lawmakers shouldn't discriminate with aid for tragedy.

because we remain more than a collection of red states and blue states. we are and forever will be the united states of america. >> not red, not blue, united and republicans seem to have a double standard when tom coburn, the oklahoma senator, he's insisting that this aid to oklahoma be offset with cuts elsewhere and that's pretty consistent with his positions elsewhere but think about what that means. that means that, okay now a ton of money will go to oklahoma and countries will have to sacrifice

for that. it's not fair to say that this is a principle stand when everyone else is sacrificing far more than disaster relief than a rhode islander or somebody else gets hit by something. >> the leadership mccain and others who did take that position with sandy have said they don't see that in this case. but let me go to congressman peter king who is a republican from new york. he says the people of oklahoma should get every penny they need but he slammed republican hypocrisy and said there's a lot of hypocrisy here. i don't want to hold the people of oklahoma responsible for what elected officials are saying. this is a republican talking

about his own party. >> that's right. and for inhofe to say that sandy was exploiting the disaster, this is the fact that republicans in general exploit in general, they refuse to prefund a disaster we don't know where it's going to hit and say, hey, look, you are something horrible, the country is here for you. they don't fund that. every time there is a disaster, we have to cut elsewhere, so what it is becomes a way to pursue the disaster of cutting more generally. >> and when they are not playing the whole we need to offset it, they drag their feet even to get

there. chris christie, watch this, there's only one group to blame for the continued suffering of these innocent victims. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> they did so, with callous indifference to the suffering people of my state. shame on you. shame on congress. >> slamming his own party for dragging their feet on sandy, the victims of sandy. something that we're not hearing this time in a red state. >> right. and i think that speech from chris christie is one reason you're hearing a different song from republicans this time around. they don't -- they don't want to get lectured like that again. they held up aid for, you know, several weeks, a pretty long

time, and they caved on it and let's not get ourselves creamed here. also, of course, oklahoma is a deeply red state and people have connections to it. >> ryan grim, thank you for your time this zeeng thank you. ahead, anthony weiner's political comeback. will he get any help from his old friends the clintons? >> but, first, republicans worried about spending, surprised? me neither. that's next. [ musick ] i knew there were a lot of tech jobs

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>> thank you for watching. >> but "politico" report bill and hillary clinton very popular in new york are staying out of the mayor's race. they used to be allies and whether you have a stomach for it or not, there's never been a bigger fighter in the house. >> if you don't like nationality health care, this is your amendment. i dare you. i double dare you. and and eliminate 44th anniversary. it's republicans wrapping their arms around republicans it's a shame. it's a shame. if it's a different procedure, the gentleman will observe regular order and sit down.

the gentleman will sit. the gentleman is correct in sitting. >> many progressives cheered that he was never afraid to take on the right wing media. >> the only question here is not whether or not there can be attacks on that. tell me why it's fair and when. >> you don't care about it. i care about it. >> you should. you should. >> this is the way interviews work. you get to ask questions and i answers. >> that's helpful. >> when you put your commentaries at the end, they better be correct and they are not. >> i agree.

what's the question? >> great interview. as. >> whatever happens, this is going to be fun. full disclosure, anthony called me today and i agreed to sit down and talk with them just like i agreed to talk to all of the candidates. jamal, you are a democratic strategist. is this new ad? >> it's a great ad. he touches all of the right touchstones. huma, his wife, is in that ad. she is as wonderful as she is in person. she comes across wonderful in the ad. i've known anthony for a long time. he's going to be a tough fighter. however this goes, you're right. but what i think he's got to do

more of, is talk more about the city of new york and make this a little less about personal redemption and what he's going to do for the family, the students, the facilities of that city and people may give him another chance. i've heard from a lot of people today and i don't hear a lot of support from him yet. >> a lot of progressives want a fighter and he has that fighting voice. could that generate some kind of support for him that might surprise people? >> absolutely, reverend. it could generate that support. look, people in new york love a good fight, right? but the question right now about anthony weiner is not whether or not he's a fighter. it's too early for that. the question is, is he sorry and do we care? actually, that's two questions.

the first one, in this ad, did he say he was sorry? no, he did not. if you look at it, he said, give me a second chance. he didn't say, i'm sorry. going on and on and on. but the next question, then, really turns on how can people or will people forgive his sins? it used to be that you had to go on oprah's couch, you had to sit there and cry and say i'm sorry and then move on with your life. the question is, did he really do enough of that? >> well, but some say that he apologized to his wife, if she forgives him, that may be enough. in fact, he played up his family in this ad. watch this, jamal. >> it starts right here. and it's the best part of my

day. and then you step outside and new york is like no other place. this was my neighborhood growing up. middle class brooklyn. playing football into the night. if we were lucky, a mets game on the weekends. >> so he plays up his wife huma, he plays up jordan, his son. i mean, is this playing up the family, is this going to work for him, jamal? >> i think it's going to be helpful. i think it shows that he's taking care of his family and he's focused on that and he's a family man. what has he been doing for the city of new york? it's good that he's been taking care of his family but how much of his own time has he been investing in a community project to make sure other people in new york are taken care of? i think that's a question he has to answer. you have a whole bunch of candidates.

you have christine quinn, the first openly gay candidate of new york, he's going to have a tough race with a lot of good candidates and he's going to have to prove that he changed. he wishes them all well but won't be getting involved. a spokesperson for hillary clinton, won't be weighing in one way or the other and as i said, i talked to anthony today

and other candidates and i think he has a right to win. and it's full of interesting candidates but i don't think anyone should begrudge anthony weiner from running and i remember him taking some pretty tough stands. >> right. and i remember exactly what you're saying. but to someone, reverend, who is not a new yorker, looking at new york and the fact that the clintons, while they had lots of friends there, are not supporting him, sends a pretty loud message. to everybody else. and chuck schumer is not supporting him. >> i'm not sure that's a good measure. bill deblasio ran. he's a friend. christine quinn, she's a friend. bill thompson -- >> all i'm saying is the clintons, if they don't throw their weight in, that makes you question -- >> you are talking over each other.

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it was september 11th and a triple murder made headlines in massachusetts. >> three people found dead in an apartment. >> this crime was not random. they are looking for two assailants. >> the victims, all in their late 20s or 30s were stabbed to death possibly with a knife or ice pick. >> there was a girl running out of the house saying there's blood everywhere. and there's like marijuana all over their bodies, apparently. >> it was gruesome. throats were slit from ear to

ear. they nearly decapitated. the murder was never solved. nearly two years later, no suspect was ever found. that is, until this amazing news tonight. last night, this man was being questioned in orlando, florida, by an fbi agent in connection to his boston bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. he brand dished the knife and threatened the officers in the apartment. he shot and killed the suspect. he knew him through martial arts. >> older brother. just knew him a couple years ago when he used to live in boston. and that's it. he had his number in the phone

but only spoke to him like a month before that stuff happened, right, and that's it. he wasn't close friends with him. he just happened to know him. >> and just moments ago we learned law enforcement sources told nbc news that tamerlan and ibrahim killed three people in massachusetts in 2011 in a simple drug ripoff. sources say that what began as a drug heist ended in the triple homicide when they realized their victims would later be able to identify them. joining me now from orlando is boston globe reporter wesley lowry and here in studio, gene o'donnell, former police officer. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> this is an incredible situation. he and the boston bomber

committed the three murders. >> that's correct. it came ten years after the 9/11 attacks. some of his best friends were killed in this murder. now last night it seems that the second suspect was here in orlando preparing to admit to this grisly murder and just snapped. this has been a massive development. >> wesley, what else can you tell us about what he said to the agents? >> you know, we're still -- the details are trickling out. nbc has been upfront about this. what we know so far, what we believe so far is he was about to sign a confession to this triple homicide just outside of

boston when something snapped, something happened, i got angry, threatened the officer, injured the officer, and that's when he was shot and killed. >> now, eugene, it's a bloody triple murder and the police never came up with a suspect and now we find out the boston bomber has now been -- well, he's been pointed out by his own accomplice in this gruesome crime. what does this tell us about these guys if they did insedeedo it? >> are these people just psychopaths, organized criminals? were they using the money to fund terrorist activities? so what is their motivation and obviously the larger question is going to be, would this boston bombing have been prevented had they been brought to justice earlier? >> what happens now? are they going back to the scene to see if others were involved? >> yes. this is no stone being left

unturned. i assume law enforcement has to start checking wall kinds because this is ordinary street criminal activity and the possibility that some of those people might be involved in more sinister kind of activity. so this is kind of crucial in terms of criminal activity. >> let me ask you one more question, eugene. you remember during our coverage of the boston bomber here, he was missing at the funeral. now, this was a mutual friend that had said to reporters, this was his best friend but he was not at the funeral. quote, this is what a mutual friend says, he was somebody who was in contact with brendan on a daily basis. anybody like that you would think he would have been around. tam wasn't there at the memorial service. he wasn't at the funeral. he wasn't around at all and he was really close to brendan.

that's why it's so weird. this starts to make more sense today. >> it certainly does. and it appears they didn't have suspects initially but if this is true, this is quite a dramatic trail that eventually leads to this guy. >> wesley, what about the cell phones? i understand that the cell phones were found? >> this is how they tracked down todashev. when they seized the phone records, they saw that there were calls and contact between potentially before the bombing, maybe after the bombing but that's unclear. there had been contact between tamerlan tsarnaev which is what led them down to orlando to interview him, to keep an eye on him. this was to our understanding not the first time he was interviewed by the fbi but subsequent interview and that's how they found him, through tsarnaev's phone records.

>> what would this mean in an investigation? >> well, they give you some sense of how many times they speak, the relationship they may have. you get some ideas of where they moved to and where they were coming from and insight into who else was in the network and obviously as we said before, in this kind of case, they will know everything about these bombers. so if they did any kind of minor infractions, that's going to come up. this is the most investigated case in american history. >> so this could change some of how we see the boston bomber? he could have been a psychopath, i think you said, he could have just been some guy that was into violence. because this does not appear ideological at all. it was an attempted drug heist that went into a triple murder. >> a very bloody one. the attempt was to kill these people as witnesses. so is this a criminal gang, is it terrorism? in other countries there is overlap. so this is more intriguing by the minute, really. >> and wesley, this was a huge

story in boston with no suspects for a long time after it happened in 2011. >> of course. for years. no suspects on how it happened. it wasn't until after the boston bombing that tsarnaev's name was formally linked to it. and both tamerlan tsarnaev and this suspect in orlando had been considered suspects, were talked to, but they didn't have enough and now years later it's starting to be pieced together. >> now, do we know if they were able to question ibrahim about what the communications were between him and the bomber with the cell phone conversations? because you said he talked to the fbi more than once. >> it's unclear what he told them. according to his friends out here near the scene, based on the local news reports, they spoke to him before, he admitted to having spoken to tamerlan

tsarnaev, although there's no evidence to suggest that he had any knowledge of the bombing plot, a the least not at this point in time. but again, it's still very unclear. >> there's one cautionary note. the word of somebody alone is not obviously valuable. you want to have corroboration and make sure there is supported evidence. >> wesley lowry from "the boston globe" and eugene donald, it's a fascinating story. thank you for your time tonight. when we ask you, friend or foe, i want to know, and the e-mails are rolling in. my answers are next. ♪

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should fit in a little time cup. new single serve cafe collections from maxwell house now available for use in the keurig k-cup brewer. always good to the last drop. with the way the world has changed, do you think the republicans will ever regain the white house given the way they act? well, it's not how they act.

it's how the opposition acts. it's how those of us that don't want to see the right wing back in charge. if we don't mobilize, they will regain not because they beat us but because we didn't fight. steve writes, "i don't have a question but i have a prediction. by independence day, the scandals will fizzle out like the fourth of july. well, i think these scandals will fizzle out but you must give them credit. they are tenacious, they will find something to help keep trying to come. we have got to keep trying to fight the fight, too. don't expect them to give out. let us keep the fight going. and "to what do you attribute your weight loss and the fact that you get better looking every year?" well, that's so nice of you but i started exercising, i watch what i eat. i don't eat any red meat or

chicken. i eat fish. most important, discipline. watch what you put in your body. donna writes, i really admire your fighting spirit. how do you keep from getting discouraged? that's a great question, we've won the fight. all they did with voter suppression, we won. i remember he's rescued the economy. creating nearly six million private sector jobs, protecting 17 million children with pre-existing health conditions. >> insurance companies can no longer impose lifetime limits on what you receive or drop your coverage when you get sick or discriminate against children with pre-existing conditions. >> the president saved over one million auto industry jobs and

with them are auto bailout, without support from the programs and he has offered tax credits to make more college more affordable. he's kept his promise to bring our troops home. >> after nearly nine years, america's war in iraq will be over. today, i can say that our troops in iraq will definitely be home for the holidays. >> so madonna, we shouldn't be diskor discouraged. we'll keep coming with the two f's, the fight and the facts. don't be discouraged. we're winning. just because they are swinging doesn't mean they are scoring. i've seen too many victories. i was in johannesburg the night mandela won. i was on the stage the night barack obama was sworn in again. i've seen too many victories to ever think that defeat is

anything about a temporary bump in the road because on the big ones, on the broad ones, on the ones that matter, right always wins and it always will if we had the courage to stand up and fight. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. peek-a-boo politics. let's play hardball. good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with this. there are two ways to look at this irs scandal. one is to blame it on the bureaucrats. the other is to blame it on the white house. someone through mind control perhaps somehow got a line into that cincinnati office.