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whether our kids education is in jeopardy. good morning. it is thursday, may 23rd, 2013, from the montour trail in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. >> we thank you for sending that video. well done managing the bike while videotaping at the same time. we don't recommend you try that on your memorial day weekend but thank you for that. this afternoon in what the white house is billing as a major national security speech the president will spotlight an issue that has be shrouded in secrecy, drones. the president will announce new limits on the program of targeted attacks and try to outline plans to begin to shift authority over drone operations from the cia to the military. yesterday n a letter to congressional leaders, attorney general holder for the first time formally acknowledged that the u.s. tar get and killed an american citizen anwar al-awlaki

with a drone strike in september of 2011 saying al-awlaki presented a continuing and eminent attack of violent tlets against the united states and acknowledged three other citizens involved in terrorism have been killed by drones. today president obama will renew his first-term pledge to shut down guantanamo bay where a hunger strike has been ongoing for 105 days. nbc's national investigative correspondent is michael is cough and isikoff. based on what you have learned how has the cia been identifieding targets for drone strikes to this point? >> in ways that do differ in some respects from the way that administration officials including the president have described it in a talk in january of last year. president obama -- this is google news firm said these operations were targeted focused effort at people who are on a

list of active terrorists. they said the u.s. government conducts targeted strikes against specific al qaeda terrorists. when you look at the cia documents on these drone strikes, you see that many are against suspected militants who are not known to the -- whose agents are not known to the agency at all. they are described as other militants or military aged males. a close reading of attorney general's reading, suggestings they will be imposing higher standards on these strikes that may make those not illegal or against the policy but there's a lot of wiggle room in the way these standards are articulated. >> beyond that, how is the policy changes? i understand the signature strikes, new restrictions taking

place. >> the shift in the military, for operations in yemen and somalia and possibly north africa wchl are waiting to see how much drone strikes might expand there. the contention this is going to make the drone program more transparent does remain to be seen. jsoc operations are just as secretive as the cia in many ways. i'm not sure we will learn more how the operations are conducted. >> during the president's campaign, then senator's campaign in 2008 that he pledged to shut down guantanamo bay. he said he would do it the first year as president. clearly that hasn't hpd. what do we expect to hear in terms of executive orders to move closer to that? >> we told redoubling of efforts. we will see what that means. the appointment of somebody. one thing we are looking at here, it is another high will

have level state department official giving this brief. we have had that before and it didn't get very far a lot of people were looking for somebody at a higher level in the white house who would be charged with closing guantanamo and getting detainees overseas. we will see who the president appoints. if in the names somebody by name today. >> no one has replaced him. mike, we appreciate it. thank you very much. . other news to share with you making headlines. we turn to oklahoma where sadly funerals for the the victims of the tornado will begin today. the president will travel to oklahoma to see the devastation firsthand and meet with survivors and rescue teams there. last night, at a white house honoring carole king they promised they will be with the people of oklahoma all the way. >> our thoughts and prayers remain with the wonderful people of oklahoma. they have suffered mightily this

week. we will help them recover and rebuild as long as it takes and eventually life will go on. and new memories will be made and new laughter will come, new songs will be sung. >> reporter: this was the president last night. craig melvin is now joining us from moore, oklahoma, where they continue to be the midst of a line of storms. what is the priority right now as they begin the cleanup efforts and have shut down recovery efforts right there really? >> here's the thing. yesterday, the weather was postcard perfect here in moore but as you can see-you mentioned a line of storms a flash flood warning in effect until 9:45. we saw a bunch of folks out yesterday picking through debris, trying to take what they could. no one out today because of the weather. we expect the rain to continue throughout the course of the day. i got a first-hand look at the damage yesterday, as well.

take a look. they are starting to sift through the damage and rubble at moore medical center. had they not evacuated the hospital the death toll would have most certainly been higher. i want to show you another picture that we have seen all over moore, oklahoma. these, literally thousands of cars that were tossed by that twister, tossed like toys. there's the ball return machine. there's the automatic scorer's table. there's a bowling ball. this was mf moore lanes. this was the neighborhood bowling alley. the first funeral will be held this morning at 10:00. a girl will be laid to rest along with two more funerals tomorrow. >> another miserable day there. add insult to injury with the

weather moving in. we appreciate it. now to the irs scandal which has become a public relations mess for the white house. lois lerner the irs official who disclosed that the agency had targeted conservative groups surprised the house by delivering an opening statement and then taking the fifth. >> i have not done anything wrong. i have not broken any laws. i have not violated any irs rules or regulations and i have not provided false information to this or any other kmooit congressional committee. >> you don't get to tell your side of the story and then not be subjected to cross-examination. that's not the way it works. >> sort of the way it worked yesterday. the "washington post" headline reads on irs issues senior aides were focused on shielding obama. writing that senior white house officials created a monstrous communications disaster for an administration that appeared not to know what its agencies were

up to. white house press secretary jay carney, who's been under fire for at least the last ten days, dealing with this largely self inflicted credibility problem delivered a mea culpa. >> there have been some criticisms over how we are handling this and they are legitimate and i mean it. we have taken and accepted that it has some potholes in it and diversions that aren't always enjoyable. >> nbc senior political editor is mark murray. he's here with the first read. nice to visit with you right now. i want to pull up a quote in the "washington post" story. this is from david who says it has become a washington spectacle. he said they were sort of figure skating judges say wreg going after minutiae on this a but it

has left a americans with a soechbs what does the white house know and what are they perhaps hiding? it. >> has become a pr mess. it is important to know the most damaging story for the white house or the president is that the white house or the president was involved in the criteria for targeting these conservatives, sounding organizations for tax exempt status. the white house went out of its way to say we had no association. the president had no association. what has been problematic for them is the story about who knew what about when regarding that inspector general's report. it has taken the white house several days and has taken them several stories which has gone to their credibility. as we saw in the clip from white house press take carney. it seemed they got their story straight. it remains to be seen if it stays that way. >> how do you recapture the credibility. the irs story will be with us for months to come. >> the white house is hoping as long as it gount to the president or seen that the white

house was doing this for political reasons that this is a story that will eventually go away but it has been rocky and messy and public relations mess. >> can we talk about anthony weiner shaking hands as he was meeting individuals, making his public face-to-face effort to become the next mayor of new york city. where does this go. >> he is saying on the campaign trail give mae second chance. what he is yet to do is why he misled voters and supporters when the twitter scandal. >> this video is from him on the trail. i want to play a sound byte. this is what anthony weiner said less than an hour ago in new york city. >> mr. weiner, recent poll shows 52% of women in the city do not want to see you run as mayor. how do you overcome numbers like that as you begin your campaign. >> this is day one or two of the campaign and one way i do is it by seeing people and i frankly

have been encouraged by how many people say they are prepared to give me a second chance. i'm not asking people for endorsements or help. i've got to prove myself. >> it is hard to hear everything she saying but one question was the fact there is a large majority of new yorkers that don't even want him to run. >> it was mentioned about women. and the person who is the front runner is a weak front runner, christine quinn trying to become new york city's first female mayor. it creates an interesting dynamic. >> could be an interesting runoff if it gets to that place. much more ahead including stepped up security as we learn about the gruesome murder of a british soldier in broad daylight i. happened on the streets of london. and terror transparency has the president gets right side to deliver his counterterrorism speech. we will talk to former clinton chief of staff next. he knows a couple of things about white house crisis

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in the months ahead, i will continue to engage congress to ensure not only are they targeting detention and prosecution of terrorists remains consistent with our laws and system of checks and balances, but that our efforts are even more transparent to the american people and to the world. >> that was the president's state of the union address a few months ago. the president today will take his first big step toward making the promise he laid out in that state of the union. john podesta is chairman for the center of american progress and he was clinton's chief of staff.

nice to meet with you and thank you for your time. i want to ask you about an op-ed you wrote. you called for the president to go public with the justification of the drone program and swroit beyond dispute that some information must be closely held to protect national security but protecting technic means human sources, operation at details and intelligence methods cannot be an excuse for creating secret law to guide our institutions. how do you draw the line between security and transparency. >> the details of the operations will remain secret and probably will after the speech today. as you noted i was highly critical under the secrecy in which they were developing the law that undergirds both the ability to conduct those strikes, but also the public support for them an the international support for what the yiel

the united states is trying to do and i think the president sees this in his initiative today. >> why does president obama make the speech now? >> my own view is it is better late than never but right now it may have had something to do, there was rumors he was going to give the speech a long time. may have had something to do with the boston bombing it was delayed but i think he had to get out there and create a justification and what it appears now narrow the program. i think he will have some news to make in terms of the ability to rein in the drone program and get rid of signature strikes and move forward with a more -- a program that is really targeted at high-level al qaeda operatives who are bent on killing americans. >> you worked within a white house. can this be seen as a response to recent leaks given the fact

there's been a lot of criticism in the way the information was made public before? >> i think what has happened in the last couple of weeks prevented them from going forward with this. my guess if anything it delayed it. but he needs to get out and explain to the american people what is the legal justification for this and i think he will do that this morning. i'm hopeful that we'll turn a page on this. i want to turn to the topic of the irs and that controversy. we know that the chief of staff and white house counsel knew about what was happening in april, i believe the 24th. this is the way that jay carney explained it. >> in these situations the counsel made the decision this is not the kind of thing you notify a president of an investigation that is not complete because it wouldn't be appropriate to do so. >> the president said he didn't learn about it until he saw it from news reports. so should he have been kept out of the loop in your opinion?

>> i think they made the right call in this regard. i have a lot of experience to form that opinion. if you go back to the original white water investigation, it was a about whether the white house interfered in an ongoing treasury investigation. we spent seven years and $100 millioenniuion and two independ counsels to find out no one did anything wrong. it would have brought be out whether he tried to influence it. >> your impression of how this played out? >> you are always slow off the dime when these things hit you in the face. they did the right thing in asking for the irs, acting irs

heads, resignation and moved forward with that. so look, it always seems wobbly at the beginning but i think it is the right course with the irs. >> john, appreciate you coming. coming up, we will hear from the other side of the aisle, we get his take on the president's speech today and the irs mess but first the trivia question. how many u.s. presidents were born west of the mississippi river? first person to tweet the correct answer to us at ath @dailyrundown. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen.

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it is not often the house can come to agreement on an issue but that was the case in wednesday's oversight committee hearings on the irs' alleged targeting of conservative groups. take a listen. >> i believe we are united in this in being outraged. >> i was shocked when ms. lern, from the irs, made her statement, we made mistakes for that we apologize. >> you never notified congress to say, sir, i gave you the wrong information. i mislead you. you never came back to congress to straighten out that impression. that's inexcusable. really is it. >> was primarily conservative groups that were targeted but people of all political persuasions are upset about this. join megais illinois republican congressman pete roscum.

it was chairman's is a said she can't have it both ways. what was your take? did she forfeit her right to take the fifth. >> in sos for a her claim she didn't lie to congress. that was a grievous error. either she didn't listen to her lawyer or he gave her bad advice. she opened the door as far as her original statements she may be able to claim the fifth for things subsequent to that statement but when she opens it up and said i didn't lie to congress and now i plead the fichlt she made a big mistake. >> where does this go? >> i think where it goes is the chairman invites her back, compels her to come back. they begin and quirery around her opening and her assertion she didn't lie to congress. that's broad thing she has opened up. it is incredible that she actually did that.

you can imagine almost anything that's relevant to this inquiry falling within that scope. if she chooses not to, the chairman f he chooses can hold her in to contempt. i hope it doesn't come the to that. i hope she comes clean and tells congress what was up and how she was involved. >> do you think there is evidence that leads the irs scandal back to the white house? >> well, there's no evidence that leads it to the oval office. i think this is the situation we need to be very careful and get the facts out and not come to conclusions and speculations before the facts speak for themselves. there was bipartisan outrage as you acknowledged in your opening. people who are thoughtful people figured out if the irs can manipulate and target one group n a different scenario and different season with different motivations they can target another group. what the irs is finding is, look, they have no friends. if you come and lie to congress, you lie to the american people, you hide the truth, and you have

the ability to fine people and put them in prison if they violate your rules and you come back and -- they are finding they are basically an open country and they are all alone. >> you are an attorney. do you think anyone should go to jail for this? >> there's a very serious question whether what is known as 6103 information was released. in other words, was information released that the irs has a duty not to disclose? if that was released intentionally and going to other agencies or out to the public that is actionable and a felony. the questions around the targeting, there is a lot of ambiguity about the legality of that but surely that is something that congress will revisit. >> i want to get your thoughts quickly before we let you go on the president's counterterrorism speech. what you want to hear from him today and your view on the effort to be more transparent by

the administration? >> it is about time but there has to be a sense of balance that the president needs to articulate. how is it he is going about making decisions, what are the legal restraints on him? surely it can't be for him to target without review and any oversight whatsoever. if there is a level of confidence, i think the country is ready to come behind him. if not, it could be in the same as the other things coming out of the information, mishandling irs, benghazi and the ap. >> representative pete roskam of illinois joining us this morning. thank you very much. >> thank you, peter. this headline from overseas. police continue their investigation in to what was a brutal attack on a soldier. it took place in london. we should warn you these images are pretty graphic. yesterday in a southeast london neighborhood, two men attacked and hacked a victim to death. this happened in broad daylight. the attack has been labelled as

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the heat of the holy roman empire in the 18th century. don't be upset if you can't get it. it was the final question at the national geographic bee. the question redensberg, germany. how about finding the state of hawaii on a map. even that gave elementary kids trouble. 25,000 students across three grades were tested to see how much they knew about places around the world. 20%, one in five high school seniors were able to be found to be proficient in geography. the numbers were better for lower grades. 21% of 8th graders and foufrt graders seen as proficient. why were the numbers so bad? one, it isn't getting the attention or funding as other subjects. geography is one of the nine core subjects listed in the no child left behind act. according to the department of education it is the only subject left unfunded.

it is folded in to something called social studies. it is not just geography. northeastern students rank in the middle of the pack or worse when it comes to math and science compared to the rest of the world. why does it matter if the kids know a difference between the pyramids and pyreness. you don't know which countries have access to waterways and peernts where there are natural resources like oil, geography is key townsing why we have troops in some areas and why people and their leaders do what they do. the host of the national geographic bee and of course from "jeopardy" alex trebek. >> good to be with you on your surf opposed to my turf. >> absolutely.turf opposed to m. >> absolutely. one upside to have you on talking about this issue is

seeing the down side of this issue with geography and how little it seems schools are putting in resources here. the goal of the national geographic bee is to pay attention of this. >> americans are woefully ignorant when it comes to geography, adults and children and i suppose that's the reason children don't know much. interesting in the statistics you read, the 8th gridders, which are the students who participate in the geography bee are the ones most from efficient at 27%. they work harder at it. then they seem to forget what they have learned or they are not interested later on. technology has a great deal to do with that. there are so many diversions with their cell phones that they don't have to get interested in what is happening in the world around them. they can pick up the phone and say, okay. >> right. >> our emphasis for years has been on spelling bees. you have spelling bees in class and spelling bees this and that

and what is interesting, there aren't geography bees in a lot of high schools an elementary schools and one of the hopes of having this. these kids that participate in it, i want to play a clip of you interacting with one one of the kids in the finals i believe from last year. i want to play it. >> you would like to become a travel book writer. where have you been that was a lot of fun? >> here. >> it is uniquely shaped flag and represents what mountainous country in asia. >> what is nepal. sgluf been dying to do that, haven't you? you are right. >> obviously that was not last year. >> no, it was not. my apologies but these kids have a lot of personality. >> oh, yeah. as you just saw the young boy was waiting. i told him you have been waiting to do that phrase, phrase your response in the form of a

question and he says yeah. what is great about these kids, they are not one die mentional. they are interested in science and math. >> you don't get the sense they are memorizing. >> no. there are clues that come up that have to do not only with what we would consider traditional geography but history and economics, that have to do with farming the movement of civilizations the growth of powers around the world. and these kids know it. they can look at a map and recognize from just one little piece oh, yeah, that's here in this country. it is dazzling really. >> one reason we convinced you to come on is you were a self professed political junkie. you are watching american politics these days. just give me your sense of what you wish were happening more of

or what is interesting? what's grabbing you these days? >> as rodney king said many years ago, can't we just get along? and the -- i don't know. a lot of the commentators i see on shows on which you appear sunday morning, they say well, this is a reflection of the country don't blame it on the politicians because the country is divided. why can't we compromise? they say you can't compromise your principles. that's nonsense. you can compromise on certain principles. >> what do you hope the geography bee does? >> as i have told reporters over the years f you know geography and the background of civilizations and the religions, you will be much better off in terms of understanding where they are coming from. why are they ticked off at us? what have we done to alienate

these people? we like them and most of them like us but why are they doing this and that? well geography will help. and as you mentioned a few moments ago, geography is neglected. the only unfunded part of the no child left behind but they are trying to move it in to the social sciences. >> it should be its own it. >> should be its own but so far it hadn't succeeded because it hasn't got then attention it deserves. but anything we can do and this is our 25th year of doing the bee. and this was an epic moment for us this year because there were three girls in the final ten. >> we won't say. >> can't say much. >> i'm not going to reveal. >> good to know but we with want to see more diversity. >> all we need now is 20 do another power players week on jeopardy and get you back. >> we'll see. >> the most nerve-racking thing i ever done on your show.

>> be lorded over chris matthews. >> why wouldn't i? >> alex, thank you, sir. >> you have to hope the photo comes in wallet size. you can watch the national geographic bee on the national geographic channel. next is the gaggle, it is focusing on imgrigs and the president's speech on national security and terrorism today. but the soup of the day, not like soup of the day. white chicken chili. we'll be right back. what do you think? that's great. it won't take long, will it? nah. okay. this, won't take long will it? no, not at all. how many of these can we do on our budget? more than you think.

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verse r controversies in washington, the immigration train is on track. the republican leader says he will not block the debate. take a listen. >> i think a gang of eight has made a substantial contribution to moving the issue forward. i'm told that the judiciary committee has not in any fundamental way undone the agreements that were reached by the eight senators. and so i'm hopeful we'll be able to get a bill that we can pass here in the senate. >> senator mitch mcconnell this week. we want to bring in our gagle. maria teresa kumar, chris, and rachel. this is your debut show so we'll start with you. give us a sense -- this was the most undercovered event of the last week. how important was this immigration vote? >> i think it's a big first vote. i believe the republican party needs to come to a solution that

we can live with on this issue and this is the first step in that process. i took good heart in senator cruz's comments in the markup and i think there's clearly a process here that's under way. >> maria, let me get a sense from you, what are the biggest obstacles as this moves to the senate and the house? >> i think the biggest obstacle is people are going to shine a light on it once again. the fact that there was so much distraction in washington, the senate was able to come up with a bipartisan solution and move it forward. the vote was big. 13 out of five voted in favor of it. when you look at this idea that you get 70 votes out of the senate, it's sending a resounding message over to the house. we're hearing very positive movement. what i would say, the problem of moving into the house, though, is they want to split up the bill into five different pieces

of legislation. that's the danger. if you can't get a comprehensive bill, you have people signing what they want to move forward. >> rachel, i want to get your sense on that. when this thing gets to the house, what happens in the house? what progress are they going to be able to make? >> it's a real question about what gets forward in the house at this point. we keep hearing about a house, its own gang working on a bill and we hear it's going to fall apart. they've got a deal on principle, wait, it's going to fall apart again. it's very uncertain what is going to happen and what the picture in the house looks like. that's before their own bill, the senate bill gets there. even if it gets there with a resounding bill of 70, there's a real question whether the house will take that message that they are trying to deliver. >> at 2:00, the president makes his first counterterrorism speech since 2009 on this topic.

is this going to be effective for the white house? they have switched topics in a way. why now? >> it gives the president a chance to look strong on security and it gives him a chance to recalibrate. after he ran against president george w. bush on these issues, he really continued the national security policies that were controversial in many ways. we didn't hear anything about guantanamo. we didn't hear anything. >> they've been calling for this for a while, the republicans? >> it's another good step. i think the attacks in boston and a slaughter of a british shoulder yesterday reminds us of the enemy and that they are just betting against america and americans are united against terrorism to support them. >> as you know that, drone strikes are popular among americans. drone strikes overseas, not focused on americans, let's be clear. is this speech pr or real substance that we expect to

change, the evolving face of al qaeda? >> the white house has had a terrible last two weeks. they are trying to find their footing. this is resounding and popular among the american people. it provides an opportunity to provide transparency. both the left and the right have been hitting hard on the president saying we need to know how to use these drones. it allows the president once again to recalibrate and more importantly it moves the agenda moving outside of the cia to the pentagon. >> we put some calls out, we were unable to get them from the president. this one is from time magazine publishing this. we'll give them the credit where sk credit is due. this is -- do you like that view? shameless plugs, rachel, go ahead. >> teachers of america.

i don't know if that's enough for the show but hearing those stories out of oklahoma, just heartbreaking. >> thank you. >> the future majority project, trying to elect more women and candidates for diversity at the state level. >> maria? >> march for innovation is taking over facebook and twitter for immigration policy. >> maria, chris, first time here, rachel, thank you. >> good to see you. >> that's it for "the daily rundown." coming up next right here on msnbc, chris "jansing & co." have a great thursday. come here, boy. ♪ there you go. come on, let's play! [ male announcer ] there's an easier way to protect your dog from dangerous parasites. good boy. fetch! trifexis is the monthly, beef-flavored tablet that prevents heartworm disease, kills fleas and prevents infestations, and treats hook-, round-, and whipworm infections.

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