do not drive, operate machinery or do unsafe tasks until you know how toviaz affects you. the most common side effects are dry mouth and constipation. talk to your doctor about toviaz. good saturday afternoon to you, i'm craig melvin, you're watching msnbc, here is what is happening right now, graduation ceremonies are under way in oklahoma at this hour, less than a week after that ef-5 tornado that touched down, could sequester efforts cut that rebuilding effort, plus, caught on camera. the new spotlight on the country, aging infrastructure on this holiday weekend, plus? >> you need to not just deal with these debilitating and

insidious destructive forces, but rather you must be the generation of leaders that stop it. >> secretary hagel speaks to west point graduates at the home of a recent sex scandal. his message for the next generation of military leaders, we'll get all of those stories, but two developing stories right now. some incredible pictures out of missouri on this saturday afternoon where seven people were hurt this morning when two freight trains apparently collided. one train t-boned the other at the intersection, the crash then started a fire, then causing an overpass to collapse. authorities say that five were traveling on the overpass, the other two, the train conductors, keep in mind, this is just a week after the train derailed in connecticut, hurting more than seven, we'll update you on this story, and another developing story, reuters is reporting a stabbing in paris this afternoon. the news agency says that a

french soldier was patrolling a business area when he was stabbed in the neck at 6:00 local time there in paris. that soldier was part of france's anti-terrorist plan, the authorities expect him to survive. now the reuters report has a striking similarity to another story we were following this week. the bloody attack that killed a british soldier in london, we'll have the latest on all of these stories throughout the next three hours here. we get to the political headlines here, a federal judge ruled that sheriff arpaio's office engaged in racial profiling against latinos, coming years after the complaints that his office violated the rights of the latinos in the border state. arpaio likes to refer to himself as america's toughest sheriff and will plan to appeal the ruling, he says. meanwhile, the center of the scandal that caused general

petraeus to resign. she broke her silence, telling news 14 carolina she is back to work on her educational pursuits. >> at the end of the day i count my blessings, and being in this wonderful country and our wonderful community and having such a wonderful family and the opportunities, and the opportunities to rebuild. and president obama has nothing on his public schedule today but spoke at the naval academy's commencement friday. amid the downpour he talked about the sex scandals that are plaguing the military right now. >> those who commit sexual assault not only commit a crime they threaten the trust and discipline that makes our military strong. that is why we have to be determined to stop these crimes. because they have no place in the greatest military on earth. picking up where president obama left off, defense secretary chuck hagel used this morning's commencement address at west point to urge the next generation of the military to put a stop to the rising number of sex assaults.

>> sexual harassment and assault in the military are a profound betrayal, a profound betrayal of sacred oaths and sacred trusts. this scourge must be stamped out. >> nbc's kristin welker is live at the white house, this makes two administrations that spoke out against sex crimes in the military. what is their plan going forward? >> reporter: well, craig, i think you're going to continue to see the president, the defense secretary speak out against sexual assault in the military. but earlier this morning, president obama met with top military personnel and ordered them to crack down on this problem. he says there is no silver bullet but that they needed to address it and make sure it stops happening. in the wake of the comments we saw defense secretary chuck hagel call on all military

personnel who deal with instances of sexual assault to be retrained and recertified. the president ordered him to review what is happening, get to the root of it and report back to him on how the situation can be improved. i also think you will see a coordination between the white house and lawmakers on capitol hill. we should say that a lot of the female lawmakers leading the effort to stamp out the problem. the senator has a broad bill that she is approaching that would allow the prosecutors instead of military commanders to respond to and deal with instances of sexual assault. that is slightly controversial. some people think that might break the chain of command within the military. but there seems to be bipartisan agreement on the hill, craig, which as you know we don't see very frequently that something needs to be done. and one of the most disconcerts things is a recent report we got

showing the instances of unreported sexual assaults in the military rose by 36% last year, to an estimated 26,000 cases. so this is something that president obama says is not only a matter of conduct but a matter of national security and needs to be dealt with. >> kristin, i understand the president is doing some golfing today. a saturday ritual of sorts, what can you tell us about that. >> reporter: well, not unusual for him to go out and golf with his staffers, margaret nicholson is quite a good golfer, by the way. the weather is quite chilly, but good for a game of golf. something we have been seeing president obama doing. he has been dealing with what you and i have been discussing in the past few weeks, a number of controversies here in washingt washington, but the white house is trying to get things back to normal, this is a part of that process. >> nbc's kristin welker from 1600 pennsylvania, thank you. >> thank you.

>> tomorrow, president obama will head to oklahoma to get a firsthand look at the devastation from monday's monster tornado that killed 24 and injured close to 400 others and damaged or destroyed thousands of homes and businesses. police have just released some of the frantic 911 calls that came in after the tornado touched down. >> we got a daycare full of babies, we need help, bad. >> okay -- >> we need help bad, we have a daycare that just got cremated. >> where are you at? >> what is the name -- the address -- we got -- tons of babies in here. >> we'll get somebody out there. okay -- >> all right, we need help bad. >> my god, those are tough to listen to. nbc, live in moore, oklahoma, and charles, i would imagine

there has to be an incredible mix of emotions today. graduation day at three high schools. >> yes. that is right, three high schools here in moore, oklahoma, about 2,000 students total. they are being held separately. the one at south moore high school will be held at 2:00 central time today. that is the school where one of the students, a teenage girl, buried her mom yesterday. and today is attending her high school graduation. all of that going on, giving people a sense of getting back to normal here. all of that going on while they're still cleaning up here behind me. this is a shopping center that was flattened by the storm. 17 people were in the shopping center trapped under all that rubble. thankfully, they all got out alive. now, this week, there is going to be a concert wednesday night benefitting the people here and we talked to a man who was standing in line to buy tickets. he said he is ready to rebuild. here is what he had to say.

>> this is oklahoma, you know, we're going to rebuild and we're going to be all right. and we stay strong. and it happened once on may 3rd, and it blew down and everybody rebuilt. and it happened again, so we'll rebuild again. >> reporter: as you mentioned, president obama will be here tomorrow to see the devastation firsthand and to talk to some of the survivors. you were here, craig, you know there is a lot to see. 22 miles long. the path of this storm about a mile wide. the strong ernest part of the storm is right where that elementary school was where seven children died. >> you know, as we were talking a few days ago in oklahoma there, charles, it really is when you -- when you listen to the 911 calls and see the pictures and images, it really is amazing that there was not more death and more destruction. >> reporter: right, it really is. and it goes to the fact that people are prepared here. they're used to this type of weather, they are informed incredibly well by the news

media and the government to get the warnings out to let people know that storms are coming. and by the way, the next severe weather day will be on wednesday, the day of that concert. >> nbc thank you, sir, as charles mentioned, country singers blake shelton and his wife, miranda lambert will be among several staging a concert for the tornado victims. it is called "the healing" starting at 9:00 eastern, on nbc. and we want to turn to reid wilson of the national journal's hotline. good to see both of you. they like, pride themselves on the fact that a lot of them do, their state is the reddest state in the country, in 2012, all 77 counties voted for governor romney.

there is another consistency in how they vote. they voted against proposed sandy relief. reid, how might that come back to bite me now. >> let's remember that not every congressman from oklahoma voted against the sandy legislation. in fact, tom cole voted for the bill. he has been the one senator to come out and sort of have a little bit of credibility -- the one congressman, excuse me, whereas inhofe and tom coburn have had tough things to say about it. these bills have a long history of being bipartisan, everybody comes out in a time of disaster, but they also tend to become christmas trees, that is the legislation that everybody gets to put something on. the sandy bill had some money for asparagus farming, that is what the oklahoma senators were against. now we'll see just what kind of items they have to give away in

order to get the votes for a type of funding bill in oklahoma. >> gop lawmakers like new york's peter king, new jersey's governor, chris christie, you recall they were highly critical of their d.c. colleagues that didn't back the sandy aid that they wanted. is there still bad blood over that? >> well, i think there really is still bad blood over this. this is really where the hypothetical meets reality. and you know for chris christie and others i don't think they're going to be out there sounding the gong reminding people so much. i mean, this is sort of a time when the nation comes together. and urges everyone to lend a helping hand to the victims after the disaster. so i don't know how much of the debate will be over that. >> reid, the national journal sister publication "the atlantic" pointed out that

sequestration cut 7% of the budget of the national oceanic and atmospheric center, n.o.a.a., which of course runs the national weather service and other weather detection programs, as well. from the article, if there is a more active tornado season, the money for many of these disaster relief programs could run out before the end of the fiscal year in september, while n.o.a.a. may not be able to provide the most accurate weather information and don't look now, but hurricane season also starts next week. how real is the possibility that the cuts affect our ability to predict storms and our ability to respond to them? >> well, i think this tornado itself is already going to challenge fema's ability to pay for some of the disaster relief. you know, there is only $2.5 billion left in the fema recovery fund after sandy. sandy took more than $10 billion away from that fund just in recovery alone. and the joplin tornado that hit a couple of years ago almost two years to the day before this

tornado in oklahoma, cost $2.8 billion. so if moore cost the same as joplin, well, the fund has dried up already. so congress is clearly going to have to go back and reallocate money to fema. and that is just the fema portion of it, by the way, not talking about the national weather service or n.o.a.a. or anything else like that. >> president obama struck different tones in the past when playing consoler-in-chief, after newtown he spoke pretty pointedly about gun control. which president obama do you think we see here tomorrow? >> well, certainly, conso consoler-in-chief. these are difficult weeks, you guys covered closely the scandals that president obama has been dealing with. this is really what he is best at.

writing his speeches, working with the speechwriter after the gabrielle giffords shooting. it was one of the best speeches he did. so i think it will really be a high point for him where he can talk about the nation coming together and sort of shift attention away from what has been going on in washington. >> reid wilson, national journal, good to see both of you, we'll talk to you again, thank you. and top aides, news about targeting conservative groups, smart move? we'll take you to the war room, next up. backlash, one of the world's richest men made the controversial comment about women which went around the globe. what he is saying now. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.

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well, one of the richest men in the world and a high profile man made a comment, paul tudor jones is a savvy investor, but what he said about working moms sparked a major backlash, here is andrea mitchell. >> reporter: it is the sound bite going from college campus to wall street, paul tudor jones said women are not equipped for the elite club of macro traders if they are mothers, because in his work a child is a focus killer, citing two women in the '70s. >> they both had children, and as soon as that baby's lips touched that girl's bosom, forget it, every single investment idea and every desire to understand -- every desire to understand what is going to make this go up or down is going to

be overwhelmed by the most beautiful experience, which a man will never share -- >> it was the talk of cable news from morning joe to cnbc. >> give me a break, fathers love their children, worry about their children, think about their children as much as mothers. >> reporter: tudor made a record-breaking millions. he said he is talking about macro traders, many are on call 24/7 and require a high degree of skill, focus and repetition. that didn't cut it with critics. >> he talked about this mother bond experience that men can't feel. if he doesn't know what it feels like, how does he know if it knocks women off their game. >> in fact, more and more women

are graduating from business schools, few are high stakes traders, women are still only 4% of the ceos in the top 500 companies. is that because of motherhood. >> overall, i have been having a terrific time being a mother and ceo. >> it is not as though women are not debating work/life balance. >> don't lean back, lean in. >> even though the studies show that women who run the hedge funds out-perform men. andrea mitchell, nbc news, washington. forgive and forget, anthony weiner is the latest to run for office, the advantage that sanford had that weiner does not. protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side.

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there it is, the book comes out in june of next year. after a week of silence, the mayor of toronto responding to the newspaper report and gawker video allegedly showing him smoking crack cocaine. >> i do not use crack complic c it is very unfortunate that my colleagues and the great people of this city have been exposed to the fact that i have been judged by the media without any evidence. >> now, so the video has not been made public, its truth has not been verified. the star said it showed him in a chair, inhaling from what looked like a glass crack pipe. that being said, we should note it is not a good thing to hold a news conference and say that i am not, nor have i ever smoked

crack. and check this out. president obama's organizing for action twitter page shows him and his daughter sasha on a boat and asking the question, ready for summer? check this out. cameras captured that washington bridge collapse as it was collapsing. captured it as it was collapsing. how many thousands of bridges in the country are having defects? we'll go live as they kick off the summer after hurricane sandy. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics.

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truck caused the collapse. but the federal highway administration also classified the bridge as functionally obsolete, that means it has lower load capacity or clearance underneath. nearly 85,000 bridges in america have the same class in america, i'm craig melvin. there are new developments in the brutal stabbing of the soldier on the streets of london, british authorities arrested another person last night in connection with the killing. he told the bbc that britain's spy agency had tried to recruit one of the other murder suspects. back on the east shores, memorial day weekend and the emergency rooms are increasing the number of people on staff. hospitals say they are gearing up for what will probably be a busy weekend. they are urging people to stay safe during the holiday travel and celebrations.

and a big surprise for teenagers in ohio. filmmaker and actor tyler perry showed up at a columbus middle school friday, also donating $100,000 to help student athletes there. the columbus dispatch says that perry saw a local tv report about under-funded after-school activities and decided to chip in. well, it is not the weather they were hoping for, but the jersey shore is back in business on this dreary holiday weekend. nearly seven months after superstorm sandy devastated the area. yesterday, new jersey governor chris christie was on "the today show" to cut a five-mile ribbon to officially start the summer season. nbc's michelle franzen is wearing what appears to be a parka in may. >> reporter: if i had gloves on, i would wear them, too. >> how are the crowds there,

despite the gloomy weather? >> reporter: you know, despite the gloomy weather here, craig, everybody is having a good time. i have to say hats off to them, this is what they want to be doing on this memorial day weekend. since the businesses made this their goal to reopen, of course, the unofficial kickoff to summer, as well as the big massive project, billions to get this boardwalk rebuilt and back up and running following sandy. so a bit of rain and wind right now is not going to make a big difference. seaside heights here, of course, the history, generations of families coming and a lot of nostalgia. >> with our history of being here as younger people we had to come and see. so -- and support the rebuilding. new jersey is back, and like my wife said we're strong. and come out and support it. and a lot of the parents have memories that you know, are different now. but make new ones with your

kids. >> reporter: they have made a lot of progress in the last several months, of course. a lot of rebuilding still left to go here in seaside heights as well as up and down the jersey shore. of course, tourism a big and vital part of the new jersey economy, they hope this summer they can make up the difference they have lost this first part of the year. >> all right, michelle franzen there for us on the jersey shore, we'll come back to you later, thank you. as you saw it is a cold, rainy day here in the northeast. but what is the weather like for the rest of the country? a lot of folks are hitting the road for memorial day. alex wallace is standing by with the latest forecast, how are we looking, alex? >> looking a little rough, particularly the northeast, southeast may be looking pretty good. but i tell you, the focus here no doubt about it the memorial day weekend doesn't look very nice with showers starting off. and on top of this, you don't

talk about it too often. even snow showers reported here in parts of vermont. snow levels coming down to around 1600 feet. we're getting pretty low with the snow levels and we'll see it drop more as we head on into tonight. snow, memorial day weekend, that doesn't seem to match but that is what we find in sections of new england. we have a slow-moving storm system just parked overhead and brought in cool, unusually cool air from canada. that combined with moisture coming in from the tropics, all lending to the high elevation snow we'll find tonight. parts of the adirondack mountains, the showers keeping it going across parts of new england, back to you, craig. all right, weather channel meteorologist alex wallace, back to politics. official washington, getting

away from the scandal, but it awaits their return. republican strategist, chris, congressman darryl issa's oversight meetings started with a little drama, take a listen. >> i will not answer any questions about the subject matter's committee meeting. >> we will take your refusal as a refusal to testify. the witness and counsel are dismissed. >> chris, what is with this investigation, what is it going to be like? >> well, i mean, i guess it depends on -- you know, who is leading it to some extent. you will have different perspectives and angles of the attack, whether it is coming from the justice department or the house and senate. i mean, there will be multiple investigations here, we've already had multiple hearings and are just kind of at the beginning of it. i think you saw in the house hearing with lerner's taking the

fifth is kind of a troubling development that will fuel, i think, unfortunately on the republican side. you know to kind of dig in deeper to kind of go after this even harder. >> congressman issa insists he wants this irs investigation to be nonpartisan. how possible is that? >> it seems like right now it could be. i mean, look, the irs is not an arm of the government that people care too much about. it is not a warm and fuzzy arm of the government. we don't like the irs, we think they're in our business all the time. republicans and democrats get targeted all the time. in this instance it is obvious they have been targeting republicans. and i think it will be simple and easy for a lot of democrats to say look, this is wrong here and will be on the political side to continue to fight. these hearings are just getting

started. you wait until you bring the groups being targeted by the irs, they go through the litany of the questions they had to ask, the ridiculous nature of the questions. it will go on a long time and definitely will affect the cycle in 2014 and beyond possibly if it goes the way it looks it is going at this point. >> chris, do you agree? do you think it will be something that hurts the democrats in the mid-terms? >> you know, it depends, depends on you know i think what happens in the course of this investigation. but it definitely has, i think the potential. here, i think is the crux of the problem, right? and i think this is where democrats, you know, i agree have to be very vocal and aggressive in going after the irs. and clearly, there are mistakes and the mf o malfeasance, the b is on us is to make sure

government is working. and when it doesn't? guess what? those in government, the president is head of the government and head of the executive branch, they will take the responsibility. so this will be political. what the consequence is, the impact is, still too early to tell. but it is going to have an impact. >> chris -- >> chris is absolutely right about this. because he knows that this is kind of a big fat huge, i told you so served up on a silver platter for the republicans and tea party types who said this government has over-reached for a long time. i'm not an economic strategist, but they're going to go out there and buy more tin foil. this is clearly an over reach. >> i like that, the tin foil, we'll steal that as if it is our own. always a pleasure, not two members of the tin foil hat

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success, 60% of the folks receiving the bicycles say they make more money. 90% say they save money, also, he is a 2009 recipient of a clinton global grant, an outstanding commitment. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> so let's start with the idea you had, with bicycles, how did you come up with it? >> it is definitely simple. a bicycle changes somebody's life when they get one. it goes back to my experience in uganda, i grew up -- we were far away from a hospital, a school, anything that you really need to survive. and so i saw that when i got sick with malaria they would call somebody out in the community who had a bicycle to get me to the hospital. so adding all of those experiences up and seeing men

push their women on bicycles to hospitals, all of those experiences added up. i understood that a bicycle has potential. and so that is what "bicycles against poverty" is about. we explore the potential of bicycles in communities in uganda. >> this is one of the recipients, take a listen at what he said. >> in america, they have to know that this bicycle has helped. this will affect the people a lot. as you can see, the distance to town is a little bit long. so the bicycle is improving the life of people here. >> what is the process like that recipients have to go through to get one of the bicycles? >> it is -- we made it a bit simple. so we go into a community where we choose the community that really needs a bicycle. that has the characteristics we are looking for. it is far from social services,

hospitals and schools. and we go there and we tell people about the program, and when they accept the conditions we have for the program they get to fill out an application. it is really simple, giving what they are getting. it is a $100 bicycle, that is what it costs, and bicycles against poverty helps people to afford a bicycle. >> and you make them pay the money back? >> depending on the community, you change the way they pay it back. you don't want to -- it takes them a while to pay back that amount of money, maybe one to two years, depending on what they do with the bicycle. and so our plan is also to enable them to think outside the box. you can talk about water, for example, but there are also young girls like alice who uses the bicycle to bring more

produce to a restaurant she began. and it is funny, when we were there this past summer our people working for the program were eating in that restaurant. so we enable people to become entrepreneurs, which they already doing. >> what is the website for people listening? >> it is bicycleagainstpoverty.org. >> good to see you. >> it is a pleasure to be here. >> becauses again-- bicycles ag and a shocking number of sexual assaults in the military. the new pledge coming from the pentagon, next. cascade platinum. its triple cleaning formula delivers brilliant shine that finish gel can't beat.

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. so today, i am announcing my resignation from congress. so my colleagues can get back to work. my neighbors can choose a new representative. and most importantly, that my wife and i can continue to heal from the damage i have caused. >> oh, those brooklyn news conferences. that was, of course, former new york congressman anthony weiner resigning from office nearly two years ago. you may recall that embarrassing twitter scandal when the married congressman tweeted inappropriate pictures of himself to a woman who was not his wife. but he is back, he avoided the spotlight for the last few years, but weiner announced he wants to be new york's new mayor. bringing us perspective on this from the other coast, michael, let me start with you. you have spent a lot of time

with anthony weiner in person this week when he was in office. he was known to have a certain arrogance, or swagger, so to speak. have the past few years changed that at all? >> are you asking if anthony weiner has been chastened? the answer to that big question was no. we witnessed a very unchanged man on the campaign trail in the last few days. i'll give you an example. i was on a subway train with anthony weiner and he turned to a new york resident, a voter, originally from wyoming, and he said do you guys have indoor plumbing and water there yet? >> that is not true. >> this is a man who has a very unusual sense of self, a confidence bordering on arrogance, and who cannot contain those instincts, no matter how many people are watching. >> you wrote in "the times"

yesterday about his wife who of course, used to work for hillary clinton. this is part of what you wrote "those close to the couple say that she seized the politics reversed in redemption, has drawn on her close ties with one of the country's most powerful families to lay the groundwork for his return ". she really stayed quiet during the scandal. why does she want to be out in the spotlight now? >> what are the lessons of the clinton era? that there is a real cleansing cycle, they paper it over, introduce a new narrative. she wants to see her husband no longer be a social pariah. and she brings a tremendous amount of influence. we have actually talked to campaign staff who don't really much necessarily want to work for anthony weiner, but are very triggered about her, being that it is likely she could be a

political figure for of course, hillary clinton if she runs. >> you covered the former mayor of los angeles, antonio villaraigosa who just left office this week. he weathered some salacious instances in his private life. and of course, former governor mark sanford just got reelected to congress. it part of this in the country being a fan of comeback kids? >> well, i think in certain circumstances that people want to see a comeback kid, you know, bill clinton is a good example of that he is now a beloved figure. here in los angeles, villaraigosa has actually talked quite openly about his mistakes. in 2012 he was asked what his biggest regret was as mayor and said that it was the way his marriage ended. so i think it depends on each case. sanford also was kind of an over-sharer about --

>> over-sharer, that would be a great way to put it. >> yeah, so i mean, i think it depends on whether people feel empathy for that person. and i think that lots of voters, you know, make a decision about whether or not this is going to be a big decision in race or if it is something else. >> new york city voters, michael, are not like a lot of voters in this country. how forgiving are they typically? >> that is a great question. there has not been a scandal like the one involving anthony weiner in quite some time involving new york -- he outright lied claiming a crime that had been committed against him that was completely fabricated. >> right, a lot of people forget that story. >> there has not been anything in the way of an apology tour. 52% of the women, a huge voting block don't want him to run, 49%

in the voting block don't want him to run. >> what about your take -- as a woman? when high profile politicians who get caught cheating like this red-handed, when they get a second chance from voters, what does that say about us and our society? what does it say about our culture, if anything? >> well, we just talked about over-sharing. and are now living in a sort of reality culture where everyone putting their life out there. so i think that is one piece of it, is that maybe voters are kind of more used to talking about these kind of things and seeing it in public life. but i really do think that it just comes down to each individual woman and the decision she makes about you know, whether this is a strike against his character that she can handle or not.

so -- >> thank you both so much, do appreciate your time on this saturday afternoon. coming up, mistrial in the jodi arias sentencing phase, two lawyers on what happened and what happens next. also, photographers on the front lines, here are some untold stories and see some photos from war journalists in a brand-new book. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. people join angie's list for all kinds of reasons. i go to angie's list to gauge whether or not the projects will be done in a timely fashion and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town.

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nusay . and a good saturday afternoon to you, i'm craig melvin, you're watching msnbc, the place for politics, misconduct in the military, a new scandal emerges today. plus, surviving disaster, high school seniors moving on just days after the massive tornado destroyed miles of moore, oklahoma. and this. >> three, two, one! >> back in business. new jersey's governor promised the beaches will be back open

this weekend. we will go live to the jersey shore to check in on the summer after hurricane sandy. but we start -- we begin in moore, oklahoma, where high school students are getting ready to graduate today less than a week after that devastating tornado killed 24 and wiped out thousands of homes and businesses. the arduous cleanup and digging out from the tornado continues. it will go on for quite sometime. but tornado, president obama will tour the damage and will meet with some of the first responders, survivors. how are these teenagers dealing with what is supposed to be a celebration after so much tragedy there? >> reporter: yeah, you know, it is a mixed bag of emotions. you can imagine the people are happy that they're getting out of school finally. but they're also sad that most of their town or half of their

town has a giant scar down the middle of it from this tornado. there was a graduation ceremony earlier today. there is another one happening right now for the students of south moore high school. here is what one of the students had to say about his mixed emotions. >> well, it has been tough. i break out randomly and just start crying because i know how bad it is. and i know i just want to help and change things, and i'm doing everything i can. >> we're all about helping the community. and that is what we have to do. >> reporter: it is a very tough time for these students. but this is a rite of passage, a graduation from high school and a time for the city to stop just a moment and look forward that this is one healing point. getting through this graduation. the next will be the massive cleanup that continues. and on monday, the city announced today that it will begin to pick up debris from the streets. that means that people, homeowners are gathering all the debris that is in their -- on their property, in their yards.

moving it to the curb, and the city will take it from there. as you know, craig, you were here. there is a lot of bristdebris, pick up. charles, thank you, from moore, oklahoma, thank you, let's get to the political headlines on this afternoon. the senator delivering the weekly address, talking about the "oklahoma standard." residents of the state banding together after unthinkable tragedies. the oklahoma standard has survived an act of terror in 1995. and devastating natural disasters in the past. this most recent storm will only embolden the standard and encourage the rest of the country to follow our lead. meanwhile, back in d.c., president obama kicking off the holiday weekend. golfing with staffers. his weekly radio address and internet address focused on memorial day. and the service of our armed

forces. >> the service and sacrifice of our men and women in uniform is not always readily apparent. that is partly because our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines and coast guard are so skilled at what they do. it is also because those who serve tend to do so quietly. they don't seek the limelight and serve for our admiration or even our gratitude. and talking about the latest sexual scandals head on, chuck hagel telling them they need to be the generation to stand it out. sexual harassment in the military is a profound betrayal, a profound betrayal of sacred oaths and sacred trusts. this scourge must be stamped out. >> want to turn now to political

analyst and resident scholar, of "third way," bill schneider. we just heard chuck hagel saying this has to be stamped out. all of this in the wake of a number of cases being reported. there is also a study being released by the defense department two weeks ago, estimating that reports of unwanted sexual contact in the military rose some 37% in 2012 to about 26,000 cases. it is an eye-popping figure. how aggressively is the defense department working to tackle this issue? >> well, it is the defense department, it is the white house and it is congress. you have three -- three big pushes from each of those places to do something in congress. there is a push now to have what may be one of the best remedies around to let people who are

victims of harassment and assault to go out of their chain of command. because craig, one of the issues has been that some of the military personnel who are supposed to oversee and prevent problems were in fact themselves causing them. so people have to feel comfortable about reporting cases of assault and harassment. >> bill, is there an influx of these cases somehow, are they just being reported or just more accurate? >> well, i think both are true. they are being reported. there is a rising conscienceness of the events. you have people from both parties, outraged, showing a greater representative of women in congress, these things are not going to be passed by anymore. these are a conscienceness-raising moments, it is really changing and women in the senate are making sure it

happens. >> linn, one of the women on thursday, she sponsored a bill that would require a dismissal or dishonorable discharge for any member of the military charged with rape or assault. take a listen. >> we cannot send a mixed message to our military leadership. we cannot make this a democratic issue or a republican issue. we can't make this about the blame game that we sometimes engage in between the house and the senate. we need to march forward unified. >> you cover the hill, linn sweet, so far is this one of the rare bipartisan issues? >> it will, gentlemen, you are against what the lawmakers are trying to do in the white house military at your own peril. this clearly is a situation that is -- just makings everybody look bad in every branch of the military who is involved in it. so i would say if the white

house and the pentagon and congress can't figure out a way to do something, it -- i would be surprised. look for action. >> bill, while i have you here i want to ask you about something you wrote this week. the president's approval numbers in a new washington post poll, 51% responding saying they improve of the way president obama is handling the job, 44% say they disapprove. you wrote, we are witnessing the slow death of public opinion in this country, being displaced by party continues, what did you mean? >> that the president's approval ratings don't change much, usually just above or below 50%. public opinion is supposed to wash all over the electorate, when richard nixon and others lost support, since ronald

reagan, the party sticks with the president, they stuck with the democrats, stuck with clinton during scandals, there is a polarization of american politics, meaning people really don't change their mind that much. which means that president obama is stuck at 51%, which is pretty good for him. the scandal is not having much impact. >> always good to have both of you with me on a saturday. thank you. thank you. >> the drama in the irs investigation this week centered on the official who oversaw the unit that targeted conservative political groups. lois lerner, proclaiming her innocence at the house oversight committee. >> i have not done anything wrong, i have not provided false information to this or any other

congressional committee. >> so lerner, of course, would go on to invoke her fifth amendment right and decline to answer any questions. later in the week we learned she was placed on administrative leave. the congressman who sits on the oversight committee, thank you for joining us. first of all, let's start with where the investigation stands right now. >> well, craig, i think there are a number of committees looking at it right now. i serve on the oversight government reform committee. we had one of those hearings this week. this is an issue where democrats and republicans are really pretty outraged about what is happening. the fact that americans can't be you know, confident because of these actions, that somehow they're targeting people for political purposes. that is completely wrong. and i think you saw in our committee and other committees democrats and republicans together unifying that we need to make sure, one, that this is resolved. but more importantly we move

forward because there were recommendations from the inspector general's report. >> i want to play a bite here, a little snippet from darryl issa, talking about the bipartisanship being put aside. >> this committee is investigating wrong doing, let's all be republocrats and demicans. >> that was a new term for me. how do you guys -- as you go through the investigations, how do you keep this about you know, substantive, instead of turning into a side show? you know a lot of your hearings are frequently silly side shows. >> right, and there is still a potential to make it a side show if people continue to go down the path of somehow trying to tie it to somebody that was not involved with it. you know, i think they're asking one of the people from the irs how many times they have been to the white house in 2012. i mean, some of those questions

were really ridiculous. however, i think what we really could work together on is the inspector general report had some very specific recommendations. especially around the definit n definitions we have on the 501 c-4, the number of people who filed for the tax exempt status has doubled. so there clearly are problems according to the report whether something is exclusively or primarily in these tax exempt status, or if they're political operations. and it is not clear. so i think where the employees did a very wrong turn in trying to solve this by going after certain words that seem to be political. there is need for definition in this area. and hopefully this is something we can do in a bipartisan way. >> hopefully, hopefully, congressman, thank you, we hope you come back.

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adebol . >> it won't be until july now when a new jury will decide whether convicted killer jodi arias should live or die. this week, a judge declared a mistrial after a judge could not decide her fate during a penalty phase. for a look at what is ahead for

arias, we'll also talk about michael jackson, as well, good to have both of you. thank you so much. do appreciate you coming in on a saturday. let's start here. how common is it for a jury to be deadlocked in the penalty phase of a trial like this, and how big of a setback is it for the prosecution? >> it is overwhelmingly common, in death penalty faces, let's look at that. only 2% of people on death row are women. and in the last 100 years, only 40 women have been put to death. so it is very common. it is most likely that when this phase gets retried we'll look at another deadlock. >> this will happen again -- and then the judge will decide and send her to prison for life. >> for life, with or without parole. >> and in that state if she is eligible for parole, how many

years would she serve before she is eligible. >> well, i think it depends on the state. but usually it is every two years that they will go in front of the parole board, they will decide, the victims and the prosecutors have a say and even the defense attorneys have their put. >> karen, what are the chances of finding a completely unbiassed group of jurors? >> first of all, the death penalty is reserved for cases that are multiple murders, dismemberment, not killing your boyfriend. every murdis cruel, but the dea penalty, it is a very difficult thing, you will have a hard time finding 12 people to unanimously agree on killing somebody. that is just the way it is. >> i do agree with karen, even though they already have decided in one and a half hours the jury decided it was extremely cruel.

let's not forget, you're talking about almost 30 stab wounds, slit to the throat. >> but murder is cruel. >> i want to play something i found, quite curious, after all this goes down she decides to do a slew of tv interviews. and the interviews that the previous jury was not privy to, obviously. this is what she said to our colleague, diana alvear, take a look. >> was it guilt or remorse -- >> that was an element, certainly, guilt, remorse, just, i completely f-ed up my life and hurt a lot of people in the process and i think i'll be doing everyone a favor. >> two questions, first of all, what is the motivation? what do we think the motivation might have been? and are those interviews now fair -- >> well, the prosecutor -- and

probably they will try to make a deal, like why don't you give her life in prison, which is what they did with the kermit gosnell case, and waive the right to appeal and just get it over with is what they are doing. >> and save the taxpayers a ton of money. let's go to michael jackson -- >> he didn't say let's moon walk. >> jackson's mother wants them to find the concert promoter, aeg, did not properly investigate dr. conrad murray, who of course was found guilty in 2009. this month, an e-mail described jackson as "the freak "that happened on the same day he signed the multi-million dollar agreement. she said it showed the disdain,

how do we think the jury may see that? >> i am with the defense lawyers and think this is just a ploy. i think that the jury is not going to be swayed very dramatically either way. because at this point the jury is so aware of everything about michael jackson, everything has come out during the molestation trial. and then we learn more in the dr. murray trial. >> right, i mean, listen, the cornerstone of aeg is basically that they did not hire him. it was michael jackson's choice. they also said that conrad gave a statement to the police two days after michael jackson's employee but i was being paid by aeg. i know that everybody wants to hold aeg liable for his death, but he was a licensed physician. so liability pretty much rests on him, not on aeg. so you know it is kind of disturbing. it really is at the end of the day how much weight the jury will put to the specific e-mails

and information coming out. >> i don't know if a lot of folks realize the amount of money that could be at stake here. >> $40 billion. and conrad didn't have any malpractice insurance so that may be why we're seeing the case against aeg. >> we'll have you back pretty soon, i'm sure, lots of cases. up next, divorce, former capitol hill power couple. the macks, they are splitting up. what they are saying about the breakup now. we'll be right back. (announcer) at scottrade, our clients trade and invest exactly how they want. with scottrade's online banking, i get one view of my bank and brokerage accounts with one login... to easily move my money when i need to. plus, when i call my local scottrade office, i can talk to someone who knows how i trade. because i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade. awarded five-stars from smartmoney magazine.

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at the elementary school in the nation's capitol, yesterday, she encouraged the students there to try new things and not be afraid to fail. they did some dancing, too, check that out. folks in the irs are in the middle of a four-day weekend. that is right. four. they didn't work yesterday, because they along with employees and three other agencies were subject to do a sequester-related feature, that is about 115,000 workers or roughly 5% of the total federal work force. the furloughs at the national park service will end in a week. the director says that savings from furloughs and other cost-cutting measures makes it able to reduce the staff levels. and former congressman mack and his wife divorcing. in a statement they say they are sad to announce we have reached the difficult decision to end our marriage. we have nothing but respect and we admire each other and intend

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of course, when the bombs went off. today, they ran the final mile from boston's kenmore square to the finish line. powerful pictures there from beantown. i'm craig melvin, 16 young school children and their teacher all died in pakistan early this morning in a bus explosion, five more children were hurt. authorities say all the children were between the ages of six and 12. pakistani police say a short circuit near a leaking gas continuing caused that explosion. back here in the united states, severe floods in texas submerging cars, closing roads, causing squares. the san antonio fire department says it has made more than 100 water rescues over the past 12 hours. at least one person died when her car was swept up in the flood waters. and a federal judge ruled yesterday that arizona sheriff joe arpaio racially profiled

teens in his crackdown of illegal immigrants, violating their constitutional rights. our source says his client will appeal. and if you are heading out this weekend, expect a lot of traffic. triple a says nearly 35 million americans will travel 50 miles or more this holiday weekend. and nearly seven months after superstorm sandy, the jersey shore is now back open for business. unfortunately, though, the weather did not get the memo, and has not been cooperating to help launch the official start of summer, i want to bring in new jersey congressman frank l pelone, who represents a large chunk of the jersey shore, congressman, good to see you. >> yeah, the boardwalk is great, looks like the sun may come out. we hear the weather will be improved. we're right here on the boardwalk in seaside heights. as you can see it looks great, we want people to come down. >> you know, you and i have had

a number of conversations stipulati since superstorm sandy, is this why you guys thought you would be? >> well, i think in terms of the boa boardwalks, you know the roadways, so the shore is open for business and people should come down, but i have to tell you, there are still a lot of problems in terms of homeowners. you know i was in union beach, which was my district in terms of the memorial day parade. so we have a long way to go. but you know the problems really are more with homeowners and businesses. but frankly, the boardwalk areas here in seaside and asbury, people should come down, i mean, they can enjoy themselves. i have to tell you for homeowners in particular, and those that lost their homes and need to repair their homes we still have a long way to go. >> you mentioned homeowners there. talk to me about some of the

rate increases that we've seen, be as well. and what lawmakers are going to be doing to try to help some of the folks out. >> well, right now we're getting money from the federal government through what we call community block grants. homeowners can apply for grants up to $150,000. but you know, that is slow in coming. the applications are just now being made available. you know, and it is taking longer than i think it should have. >> why is it -- >> part of the problem -- well, as you know it took almost three months to pass the federal legislation because we had a lot of opposition from the tea party republicans. and you know people from other parts of the country. the southwest that didn't want to support this package. so it -- you know, that is part of the problem. that delay. and there is still a lot of bureaucratic problems. i get a lot of homeowners and we try to deal with them in my office. but the money has not come through as quickly as i would

like, i have to be honest. >> president obama is going to be visiting new jersey again tuesday. what do you want to hear from the president this time? >> well, i want him to know that you know, we've made a lot of progress, and obviously, the shore is open for business. and if you're down on the boardwalk or the beach, believe me you can come down, it will be a great day. but i also want them to know we have a long way to go with the recovery in terms of homeowners, in particular. a lot of them have still not gotten their flood insurance or claims, many have not been able to access the federal dollars coming through. and we need to speed up the process. >> new jersey congressman frank pelone, on the boardwalk, it appears the sun is making an appearance, congressman, always good to see you. >> come on down, thank you. we'll switch gears here now and talk about iraq. this week alone, 65 people died in iraq from terrorist attacks

or violence of some sort. bombs exploding in busy streets. last week, sectarian violence killed 200, recent attacks are the country's worst wave of violence since u.s. troops pulled out in 2011. the united nations puts the death toll for the month of april alone at 712, making it the deadliest month since 2008. he has a new book out, it is called the untold stories from iraq. photojournalists on war. it came out last week, carolyn cole and ed cash are here, they're photojournalists, many of the features in the book, we talked about it on commercial. it is really not just amazing pictures but a fantastic read, as well. mike, let me talk to you, the situation right now for photojournalists in iraq,

post-withdraw, what is it like? >> well, i was there -- last year i was there. it has gotten very tough. the iraqis have really clamped down. pretty much everything is off limits, even taking pictures in a market, but especially car bombs, things like that, almost impossible to take photos of. >> you say in your book that "censorship became a starting point for this book." how so? >> well, there are a lot of things we were blocked from photoing by military regulation s or sometimes, either iraqi or u.s. government regulations were limiting us. i started to do the book really focusing on censorship. and from there, i started hearing stories, about the behind the scenes aspects of the war. >> carolyn, your perspective is unique because you were in iraq before the invasion and post-invasion, you were an imbed. how difficult was it to do your

job when both sides wanted to control the message at some point? >> well, i just focus on what i see. i can't be concerned on what was on the other side. i was actually with the civilian population before the war and bombing began. so my goal was to show the american public who the iraqi people were and try to make an introduction, because at that point we didn't have that much knowledge about the iraqis. >> who were they? >> well, they were just like we are, general families and people very scared about what was going to happen. and at that point it was not clear if we were actually going to invade, even after the bombing began there was a chance it would be called off. so it felt very important to make that connection between the two sides. >> in addition to iraq, i know you have showed pictures in afghanistan and showed pictures in sudan, as well, and a host of other countries. what is your experience like as a woman covering some of these places? >> i really don't think about it very much. i -- occasionally it helps you,

for instance, when you're with muslim women, you're allowed to interview them alone. other situations, like mosques, you're not allowed to be with the men during a funeral. it works both ways, but it is something i don't focus on very much. >> in the book you say "this war was a huge tactical blunder of the bush administration ". they went into a cycle of people that didn't like each other, this is ed in the book here, with your unique perspective, was the u.s. effort doomed from the start? or were there things that in the country that had we done differently the outcome might have been better? >> well, i actually think there was an opportunity to do it differently and have a better outcome. but it was still going to be a very tough slog. you know, the iraqi people, as far as i could tell liked us or loved us for what it is worth.

you know? and al-qaeda was not there. you know, but yes, there were these sectarian rifts that existed. but basically, our -- the way we intervened, we sort of exploded the situation. we didn't do it with the sensitivity that was necessary. so in essence, we sort of broke this thing open. >> and you guys saw it as it was happening. you saw the evolution to a certain extent inside that country. how difficult was it to watch that unfold before your eyes? >> well, i mean, for me it was a strange sort of you know, like a "roots" experience where i was able to finally go back, because i had been there under saddam, where i was tightly controlled. and thought well, i'll be able to go there and work freely. that was a joke, it existed for

about six months. but it became so difficult to work and access people in any kind of intimate way. and i didn't go there to be imbedded, even though i did a few imbeds. >> michael, which picture in this book had the greatest impact on you? >> that is tough. there is a couple of photos, but i feel like for me, chris hondos's photo, of the little girl splattered with blood. her parents had just been killed by american explosives. accidentally. it was dark out. the soldier saw a car coming towards them in the dark. they thought they were being attacked. and they opened -- and you know, they killed this kid's family. this is the type of thing that happened pretty much every day there. there was -- the civilians were really caught in the cross fire there, you know, whether it was suicide bombings or whatever it was. and the really tragic thing from a photojournalist's point of view, chris, who took that

photo, was killed in libya about two years ago. >> photojournalist michael kamber, carolyn cole, thank you for joining us, and producing a really fantastic look at the war from a unique perspective. thank you. >> thank you for having us. coming up, america's aging infrastructure. this week's collapse in washington state. it is the latest example. how many other bridges are in really bad shape? i guarantee you it will shock you. also flashback, president john kennedy's historic message to the country 52 years ago today. r a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it.

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space. and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish. >> that was president john f. kennedy on this day in 1961. and in a special joint session of congress he set the ambitious goal of safely sending an american to the moon by the end of of the decade. eight years later, july 20th, 1969, the united states achieved president kennedy's goal. that is when neil armstrong dramatically took one small step onto the moon's surface. it was as he famously put it "one giant leap for mankind," speaking of space. oh, yes, let's flash back to this day in 1977, that is when the first star wars movie opened, taking america by storm. and a few weeks after it opened here is what "nightly news "had to report about it. >> and finally this evening, if you don't know what a

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some new video today from that major interstate bridge collapse in washington state that sent two vehicles plunging into the skagit river on thursday. take a look oops this is surveillance video. you can make out the moment when that bridge crumpled and dropped into the river after a truck apparently hit a support beam there. washington state officials are

scrambling to find a temporary fix for that bridge. we've got a reporter live on the scene. what's the latest? >> reporter: good afternoon. investigators have come back out here for a second strait day. they're trying to figure out what happened here. you alluded to the video. that's a very important piece of evidence. they've also spoken to the krooifr of the truck. this bridge sits on one of washington state's most important corridors. it connects seattle to vancouver. more than 75,000 cars pass along this bridge every day. that's why it's so important for the local officials here to try to get traffic moving back across the river as swiftly as possible. but they're trying to determine what happened here. >> this new video shows the moment an oversized truck struck if skagit river bridge

collapsing it and sending two weeks into the river. >> we have vehicles in the water. >> all three people inside the cars survived, including 20-year-old broois kenning. >> i was a straight nose dive into the water. >> a truck with an oversize load is to blame. >> a very heavy vehicle crashed into multiple girders on the bridge and it failed. >> the truckdriver, william d. scott is being questioned by investigators. his wife says her husband is okay. >> he is shaken up. he was really scared for the people who had fallen off the bridge and he was really happy to hear that they were fine, to see if they were fine. that was a real blessing. >> the skagit river bridge about 1100 feet long was built in 19 a 5, inspected just last november it was listed as functionality obsolete by the federal highway administration which means the design is outdated but

structurally sound. >> it was a healthy bridge and it can continue to operate. that did you want mean there aren't things to could have been done to improve the bridge. >> experts say bridges across the country are vulnerable. according to the american society of engineers one in nine of the nation's bridges are rated a structurally deficient. >> there are more deficient bridges in our cities than mcdonald's nationwide. >> officials are scrambling to redirect traffic across the river as swiftly as possible. >> reporter: now officials say it's nothing short of a miracle that nobody died as a result of that pling into the 25 foot river below, craig. >> before i let you go, any timetable at this point from officials? >> reporter: by some estimates the governor of washington state said it could take weeks before the bridge here is repaired but by some estimates on the negative side it said it could take months.

one thing we do know by the governor's estimates, it's going cost $15 million to get it back up and running. >> thank you, sir. do appreciate that. i want to bring in construction attorney who joins us live via skype. barriry are you there. >> i'm with you. >> let's talk in broad terms about how this collapse is raising some new fresh concerns about the infrastructure in the country. just how bad of shape are we in. >> well, you hear frequently the statements from organizations like the american society of civil engineers. we have 72,000 bridges that are struck dhurlly deficient. the real number that the american public and our political leaders must begin to recognize is that we have nearly 8,000 bridges that are not only structurally deficient, which are rated poor and can't handle the loads that they

-- originally intended for because they've had no maintenance but they are also fracture critical. that term is what everybody must understand. a fractured critical bridge is one where if one critical member fails, and you saw that with this truck, the entire bridge goes straight down. and the video you're seeing now is almost a duplicate of what you saw six years ago in minute nap police for the which killed 13 and injured 145. >> barry, thank you so much for you perspective aun insight. >> my pressure. >> coming up next. ready for reform. immigration bill passed the senate and headed to house. but will it be dead on arrival? i have low testosterone. there, i said it.

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you're watching msnbc the place for politics. here's what happening right now. it's dpraj wags day in moore, oklahoma less than a week after that massive tornado destroyed their hometown. just as president obama prepared to arrive tomorrow. open to everyone, the boy scouts voted to welcome gay children this week but why some are calling the move quote, half hearted. the summer after sandy. we'll go live to the jersey shore. loets of news to get to but we start with the political headlines. paula broad well the women at the center of the affair broke her silence at a prayer breakfast in charlotte, north carolina yesterday. she told news 14 she's back to work on our doctoral purr suits and she's trying to get walk on track. >> and at the end of the day i count my blessings being in this wonderful country and our wonderful community and having

such a wonder family and the opportunities, and the opportunity to rebuild. oklahoma snare dlird today's address. he talked about the oklahoma standard. residents of the state banning together after unthinkable tragedies. >> the oklahoma standard has survived an act of terror in 1995, in devastating natural disasters in the past. this most recent storm will only 'em bolden the standard and encourage the rest of the country to follow our lead. and in an interview yesterday, senator robert menendez said that the gang of eight immigration bill does not have enough votes to pass the senator. menendez said it in an attempt to get people to call their senators to urge them to support the legislation. we'll have more on that in just a few moments. but first, tomorrow president obama will head to moore, oklahoma.

he will get a first. hand look at the devastation from monday's monster tornado that killed 24, injured close to 400. nbc's kristen welker is live at the white house. what do we know about president obama's agenda for tomorrow? >> reporter: well, craig, president obama will aassuming a familiar role, a rel of comforter in chief. he's going to head to moore, oklahoma. he will tour the tornado ravaged area e as well as meet with families of those who were impacted by the tornado. those who are still grieving and thil rebuilding. so many people lost everything in that tornado. then we expect president obama to make some brief remarks once he tours the damage and once he meets with families. i can tell you, craig, from having been in knewtown in the wake of that shooting when president obama visited, a lot

of people in the community said his visit really made a difference to them. this is a time for the community to go together an mourn and grieve collectively. i also expect the president will talk about the federal response. he has vowed that the federal government will puts it full weight behind helping the people of oklahoma to rebuild. damage is estimated to be at $2 billion. >> kristen, thank you. immigration reform now u it seems to be slowly but surely makes its way through the senator but not so fast when it comes to the house. thursday speaker john boehner put out a statement along with ma jorty leader, while we applaud the progress, there are numerous ways in which the house will approach the issue differently. we will not simply take up and

accept the bill that is emerging in the senate if it bosses. so will. bill be dead on arrival in the house. >> joining me now texas congressman. as you watched the bill make its way through the senator, how do you think it's going to fair in the house? >> i feel very good that the bill will make its way there the house. there has been a bipartisan group work in the house to address the issue of comprehensive immigration reform and i believe that we'll get something done. 11 million people, families with, friends, loved ones are counting on this country to step up and do the right thing and counting on congress to get something done immediately. and i believe it will happen. >> what immediate changes would you see in your district if immigration reform, if it does pass, if the legislation does

pass? >> for my driblt it would be absolutely a remarkable and great thing. first of all it would reunite families which is what immigration reform is all about. pit would also help out local businesses. immigrants in texas, particularly in the north texas area that i represent, in dallas an fort worth, make up a large percentage of the local economy here. they perform a lot of jobs that are jobs that are hard to fill and immigrants are very critical just to our everyday lives here in dallas and fort worth. so for the district that i represent, comprehensive immigration reform would be huge. again, most importantly, it would reyup night families. >> the bill that passed through the senate judicial committee open heading to the full senate. there's some tweaks that have been made to it. one amendment that has been dropped is the one that would recognize saim marriage.

where do you stand on that. >> in my opinion we have to protect all of our families. that includes our families that are lgbt. having a comp hence i reform bill without protecting over 200 thousand lgbt families that would be protected under this bill would not be good. and i think that it's time to do the right thing. it's time for everyone to look inside of themselves and say, americans and immigrants in this country that happen to be gay or lesbian, that they have the same rights as everyone else and that we should include them in the bill. >> before i let you get out of here i want to ask you about another issue that's at the forefront especially in texas where the boy scouts are head quartered. the decision that came down late thursday to allow openly gay members in their ranks but to not allow openly gay adults as scout leaders. what's your take on that? >> it's very sad.

so many people here in dallas and fort worth that went through the boy scouts, that made their way all the way up through eagle scout, they have such good memories. to not allow an organization like the boy scouts to be inclusive of all people just really, you know it really does a disservice to the people that love the boy scouts, that have done so much to promote the boy scouts, because the boy scouts is about openness for all people regardless of their sex or their race. to not allow gay people to be troop leaders is just it's wrong. it really hurts the boy scouts and i hope they'll rethink it. >> congressman, thank you sir. i do appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. >> i do want to continue the conversation now about the historic decision by the boy scouts of american with ross.

they're going to allow gay scouts but they are not going to allow gay adult to serve as den leaders, scout leaders a as well. what do you make of that in broad terms first of all. >> i view this as a step and a really significant step because it will be really important for, you know, those thousands of youth, boys that have wanted to be part of scouts but have been left out or wanted to be left hout. at the same time it's not complete. you're right. it sends a very mixed message of we are training you to become leaders but once you turn 18 we don't trugs you to be leaders within your own organization. >> this is something that organizations like yours have been pushing for some time now. what do you think led to it happening at this particular moment in history? >> well right. glaad got involved when a den mother got kicked out for being

gay and started using her story and all of these other stories would happen at the same time. i think america is in a really different place. we see lgbt inclusion in the military, in schools, in charges and a part of society and i think the boy scouts realize that was one of the organizations that was really holding on to old, outdated policies and they're working to try to update those. again this is a step in the right direction toward that. >> do you think it's a question of if or when with regards to gay scout leaders? >> i think it's a question of when. i think that especially this step, now if you're allowing gay youth to be a part of the organization -- >> there's ooh big difference. you have to acknowledge there's a big difference for a lot of folks in boy scouts who say it's perfectly different to have a 14 years who is gay and a scout

leader. >> to imagine having someone trained at 14, 15, 16 who is loyal and dedicated, proven their service to the scouts, it's going tosh harder for local councils to look them in the eye and say on your 18 birthday, you're not worthy you ear immoral we're going to kick you out of the organization. there's been places that have put a fully inclusive policy in place. >> adds you know 70% of all of the scouting groups are sponsored by a church or a religious group of some sort. the mormon group responsibilities the lion's share. they came out and say they're okay with it. did that surprise you? >> it surprised a lot of people but that matches where the mormon church has been working to put its imagine lately.

it has the prop 8 anti-gay history. they've been working so hard to change that and allow gay aund lesbian people as a part of their church still with limits on participation. and i think supporting this policy in the boy scouts is trying to match where the church is. i think it surprised a lot of people but when you think about it, it's fairly consistent with where the church is. >> ross murray, thank you for your time. up next, persistence and precision. >> before any strike is taken there must be near certainty that no civilians will be killed or injured, the highest standard we can set. simply put, these strikes have saved lives. >> the president reframing the war on terror and changed the policy on drones as well sort of. how the move is supposed to increase transparency. the record breaking week for

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as president i have tried to close gitmo. i transferred 68 detainees to other countries before congress imposed restrictions to effectively prevebt us from transferring detainees to other countries or imprisoning them here in the united states. these restrictions make no sense. >> president obama this week making a new case to shut down guantanamo. but the president's remarks left as many questions as they did answers.

joining me now, is center of rights and the national security adviser and a nbc contributor as well. >> let me start with you now. you represent a number of the detainees that are being held at guantanamo bay. a lot of your clients participating on the hunger triek. how many folks are still participating and what shape are they? no broad term what did you make of the president's speech. >> i had an unclassified phone call. in short the hunger strike continues. it's well into its third month. the military itself is saying 30 people, nearly 40 people are being forcibly fed with tubes and restraints. the military is now impacting kbs. people are being moved into solitary confinement. we've heard reports of invasive

humiliating body serges every time the men are moved into their camps that are interfering with our right to counsel them. what i made of the president's speech with respect to guantanamo, he said some of the right things. he's taking some of the right steps. he said he would lift his own self-imposed ban on all trips to -- that a band ma diskrim nats on people. it has nothing to do with their individual stories and who they are. he did that. he said he woubz going to appoint a special envoy. what he didn't say is that he has the authority, despite the restrictions that congress has placed, to start moving people now. that was a glaring omission. >> roger, thanks for being on here. first of all, where exactly would these prisoners go if you

shut down gitmo? did the president shed any light on whether he favors indefinite detention or not? >> it does take two to take go and he does have unlateral authority. the case of yemen is so important that ieer happy with the communication they're getting with the president in yemen but there are other nationalities being detained there and many of the host countries simply don't want these people back. this was an issue at the end of the bush administration and it's been an ongoing issue with the obama administration. so until congress and the administration can work out a mott tus op ren die, these other people are going to be in proverbial no man's land. >> the president spent a great deal of time talking about drones as well. take a listen. >> but when a u.s. citizen goes abroad to wage war against america and is actively plotting to kill u.s. citizens, when when

neither the united states nor our partners are in a position to capture him before he carries out a plot, his citizenship should no more serve as a shield than a sniper shooting down on an innocent crowd should be protected from a s.w.a.t. team. >> is that going to satisfy critics on the left or the right? >> what's important to note about what he said about that u.s. citizen is that those accusations and the information broad forward about him in particular have never been reviewed in a court of law. they have been unreviewed. if government believes that his actions were lawful in his case and the two other u.s. citizens the department of justice acknowledged killing this week. there were drone strikes in 2011 where americans died. one of the deaths was a

16-year-old boy who was killed while he was sitting outside having dinner with his cousin. the government didn't say much about him at all. if they believe his actions were lawful, defend them in a court of law. it is not enough to defend them in a letter to congress or simply to the public. it has really avoided a great deal of skut any about his actions here. >> what was your main take away from president obama's speech specifically when it comes to the use of drones. i thought he did a very good job laying out the justification and how the drone has been the most effective tool against al qaeda since 9/11. nothing else we have done has done more to destroy than the drone program. the threat has evolve because we've been so successful in decapitating their ability to plan and operate. i think where some of the debate gets lost is people talk about the drones as that central front. it's just one. i'll respect flif disagree from

the policy perspective when an american citizen goes oversea's and joins a terrorism organization, if they are an imminent threat, if they are actively planning and plotting and there are no viable options for capturing him like the president laid out then you do go ahead and strike him as a policy matter that is exactly the right thing to do. but we are now in a world where we do not need to use the drones at the same operational tempo adds we did three or four years ago. >> is that because they've been so scuffle? >> that's one part of it. now, look, there's also, craig, the reality that the drone program has created a backlash. the failed time square bomber cited the bomb strikes in pakistan as one of the reasons he attempted his failed bombing attack. that is not a reason to stop it is a reason to make sure the targets are the clearest and

highest priority. and the president's layout of his reasoning for future drone strikes i think reflects that. he did a really good job of explain why this is a viable tool. >> thanks to both of you. i do appreciate your time. coming up, model behavior. so a high school senior invites model kate upton to the program but gets rejected. wait until you see who he's taking instead. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. that was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again, and now i gotta take more pills. ♪

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enough all five of them have been released and they are okay. also taken to the hospital were the two conductor of these trains. they were pulled from the wreckage by a sheriff's deputy here. they were also okay. just so nuts and bolts here. one of the trains was a union pacific train it was heading westbound carrying brand new cars as well as auto parts. you can see here some of those cars that i were carrying are hanging from the wreckage. the other train was a burlington northern train that was headed south toward arkansas and it was carrying scrap. now the cause has not been confirmed at this point but a source very close to the investigation tells me that the union pacific train t-boned the burlington train. it is very early in the investigation. we are expecting a briefing from the ntsb any minute now. and again cleanup is also in the very early stages. you can look at this mess for yourself an easily imagine that

the cleanup is not going to be easy and it's not going to be quick. reporting from scott county, missouri. i'm tracy clemmons. >> all right. thank you so much for that. i'm craig melvin. here's a quick look at some of the other top stories making news. 18 people before hurt in the russian region when a female suicide bomber blew herself up. wit us the first suicide bombing in that region since the boston marathon attacks last month. you eel remember that the tsarnaev brothers blooifd to be behind the bombing lived in dagestan before moving to this country. a record week for the tsa. they discovered an all time hief of 65 firearms in carry-on bags in the airport this week. 4 were apparently loaded.

after all that here's something to make you smile. sports ill stratd cover girl kate upton agreed to go to the prom with a high school jean jor after seeing his youtube video. but when upton could not make it? what happened? well, nina ag dag stepped in to take her place. she apparently had never been to a prom. after the dance with davidson she tweeted had such a great prom night. thank you for being such an asome date. >> the jersey shore is back in business on this holiday weekend. nearly 7 months after superstorm sandy devastated the area. there you are. what is that kb, a cotton candy stand. >> we've got cotton candy

waiting for you. vendors ready for the visitors coming here along with everyone else, businesses trying to make a go of it after being shut down for seven months. all the pier has been rebuilt. it's taken a lot of hard work and this was certainly a priority heading into the unofficial start to summer. a lot of people coming out today not only to show support but also to get a look for themselves since this board walk has been shut down during that time. all up and down the jersey shore of course trying to kick start summer after sandy devastated the area. a lot of people ready for that nostalgia to come back here to seaside heights. >> with your history of being here as younger people we had to come and see. >> what zung? >> support the building. >> new jersey is back, come out an support it. a lot of the parents have memories that are different now, but make new ones with your

kids. >> reporter: so we've had a couple of rough days weather wise. you still see we have some gusts. the sun is out. we've got clouds, a few showers here and there. tomorrow we're supposed to see a break in this. the businesses are really looking forward to recouping some of their losses that they've lost this year. >> michelle fran don from a windy board walk there. in fact we kind of started to lose her signal there. good to see folks back at the jersey shore. president obama took on some key military issues this week. he addressed the war on tore roar, detainees at guantanamo bay, and sexual assault in the military. let's get straight to the brain trust. andrew ka sin ski political reporter and new to the brain trust. we have a nice free flowing

conversation here and at the end we crown someone biggest brain and they get 60 to 90 seconds of after cable news time to go on about what they choose. >> which clearly you're looking forward to. >> i love turning the show over to you guys for a few minute. you were the brain trust winner last week if i remember correctly. >> i have won in the past. >> let's too start with you. disclosed last week that four americans have been killed in drone strikes. president obama defended the use of drones. let's take a listen and talk bt it on the other side. >> america does not take strike to punish individuals. we act against terrorists who -- when there are no other governments capable of addressing the threat. and before any strike is taken there must be near certainty that no civilians will be killed or injured.

the highest standard we can set. >> did the president's speech, did it satisfy you? >> did it satisfy me? >> yeah. >> i think the president has a kornd r wonderful order. he has really thought about the issue. he explain in a very eloquent way all of the moral issues at stake here. what remains to be scene is a lot of the details of what's to happen pit it's taken several years for him to acknowledge the death of these american citizens. he only in his speech explained why the administration had gone after one of them. we don't know why he went after his 16-year-old son. we still have a lot of questions when it come to guantanamo detainee transfers, what exactly the policy going forward on drones is going to be. >> why now for the speech? what do we make of the timing of the president's address? >> the timing is pretty particular. he didn't give the speech two years ago, he didn't give the speech when the memo came out a

few months ago saying that there was the justification with the doj for targeting civilians. he gaift it now because he really had to give the speech. it's hard to imagine him giving this speech in his first term or even during the election. but if i could read you something that president obama said when he was a candidate and a senator, he said, i was a constitutional law professor which means unlike the current president i actually respect the constitution. there's always a distinction between citizens and noncitizens. it means something to be a citizen and that matters. we're seeing the dimps from constitutional law professor and president obama combatting here. >> you feel that perhaps the realities of being the commander in chief, that those kreeialties have changed his perceptions? >> yeah i think more or less he's flip flopped on the civil liberty issues. >> was it satisfying, no, was it

political yes. >> that surprises me coming from you. >> he's been pummeled for tramp ling the civil rights of fellow citizens, the ap, fox news. i think this was to burnish his imagine. let me get back to one of his statements about the drone strikes that he was so far out on a limb with that memo that you mentioned that he had to announce in the speech that he has president doesn't believe he can execute an american citizen on u.s. soil. nobody thought that except for the president's administration. >> that's not entirely true. >> on u.s. soil that was a highly controversial position. >> that's how the question wu put to him. >> he submitted a memo. >> and rand paul filibustered for 12 hours and he didn't adress the issue. he had to wait two months until now. >> guantanamo bay, president obama are president obama when he was a candidate vowed that he would shut down guantanamo bay.

here we are 2013 that has not happened at this point. do we think that is a realistic expectation in his second term. >> the president is coming cleser to that right now because we has cleared a certain number of people that can be transferred to yemen. that's a big step. the problem is it's quite late in the process. there are people there that cannot be tried. the united states has not said what they're going do with them who the evidence is compromised. unfortunately mabt can be closed but what are we going to do with those people. that's a question that the president didn't answer in his speech. >> i agree he dodged. closing git mott got a huge round of applause 37 however he said if you listened closely that he would prefer to move the gitmo detainee to the states but there they would be given a military tribunal. just in your green room i was speaking to a lawyer and she agreed that doesn't create the transparency that this

administration professes to value. >> go ahead. >> i was saying that during the election he said he was going to close guantanamo. he issued the executive order but he really very conveniently dismissed the fact that his administration sort of dropped the ball on this issue. they spent a lot of political capital on health care and they really kind of abandoned the issue. that's not to say that republicans want to do this. of course republicans didn't want to do this. but his administration really did sort of fall down on the job in trying to close? this. >> let's take a quick break. when we come back let's talk about the boy scouts own their decision. two decisions, the decision of course to allow gay bow scouts and the decision to still not allow gay scout leaders. we'll talk about that on the other side of the break. the brain trust is very excited here. andrew with, you're going doing a good job. [ agent smith ] i've found software that intrigues me.

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amy hallments from the blaze, ir rin. let's start with the boy scout decision. ending that long standing policy some 22 years of policy has been in place that prevented gay youth from joining the scouts. the organization released a statement that read in part, today the proximate 1400 voters of the boy scouts of america remove the distribution of -- ir rin, is this something that we think is going to put the issue to rest chlths absolutely not. they still haven't lifted the ban on the leaders. they're trying to have it both ways. they're saying okay, kids you're allowed but the moment you turn 18 you're no longer fit to be a leader. it's outdated discriminatory understanding of who belongs in this organization. they're going to alienate the

christian right members who want to deny they're gay members in the ranks who deserve to be there or they're going to alienate people who are gay and wants to be a part of the boy scouts. >> i think the boy scouts is a private organization. it's a christian based organization. i think they did the right thing by putting it to a vote of their membership of how they would like to proceed. i think sort of similar to the guest you had on who said earlier, there is a disconnect to say that young men who are gay can be scouts but when they get into a position of leading a troupe they're told they cannot do that. that is a conflict that down the line the boy scouts will have to resolve. >> is this merely the latest example of fast changing views regarding homosexuality, regarding gays in this country? >> i think it is but i also think the boy scouts are sort of towing this line we're seeing a lot of republicans doing where they're saying we'll endure gay

marriage and civil unions but they're not coming around to the real issue which is gay teens and youth should have the same rights as other youth. now they're being told they can't become role models in the organization. it's all about leading and working in your community and these kids are being told that when they turn 18 they can't do that. >> the decision has faced some criticism as you might imagine from some regional scouting group. but 70% of the troops are sponsored by religious organizations. tony per kins, head of the familyouncil, he wrote as many as 400,000 boys will leave the bsa as a result h. is that realistic? do we except some 400,000 might leave the boy scouts? >> i think time is not on their side with this.

younger people, including young christian people do not seeds a need to discriminate. i think people can coexist whether they think gay people should be married or not. they can coexist in an organization that is about building leadership. >> we have to respect organizations that don't agree with this and we can coexist as fellow americans as private organizations and private groups with those values. >> they're a smaller group so hopefully time will take care of this. >> when we come back we'll crown the biggest brain. it's a big deal. there's a cash pride involved. not really. maybe there should be. quick break.

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so as promises this is the part of the program where we crown the biggest brain, one of our regular brain trust guests, they get a moment -- it's so funny. andrew -- you u ear uneligible

because it was your debut. it's your first time. >> perfect. >> this week's biggest brain, amy holmes. your arguments are always, whether you agree with them or not they're always coherent and you make copious notes. >> five words, come on. >> go ahead. you've got 60 seconds. >> i'm the biggest brain. >> you are. >> i had a lot of fun reading this. this week former new york congressman an virtual flasher anny weiner return to social media to expose his poorly conserved deserve. in the midnight tweeter anonsed husband humble intentions of earning america's trust. you see mr. weiner would like to to be the next mayor of new york city. in the church of politics tru forgiveness is the grant of

higher office an we are called upon to redeem our fellow -- i only moved to new york a year and a half ago. i can't flow if my neighbors will get on the weiner wagon. there's another famous maxim, the politicians are like sausages. that's now to know how they are made. look away, new yorkers, look away. >> our biggest brain. clearly we don't read these things before you -- >> you get to live in connectic connecticut. >> we had the conversation earlier with a new york times writer who has been following politics. do we think new yorkers are -- there are examples whether you look at charlie wrangle and you look at eljoit fit zer. >> the entire state legislature?

>> but is forgiveness in ga thom city has farfetched as i might be in other places. >> i can't talk for the rest of new york city but vi lived in anthony weiner's district and i can toll you that when he was in office everyone in d.c. had one view of them and everyone in new york had another view. the people in his district knew him for helping out with every dit put. there were some issues a couple of my neighbors where there was a dispute and his office called and helped them settle it. his office would take everything. so like, in d.c. people saw him as a liberal and outrageous but in new york he really did do a lot of things for the people in the district. i don't know if that's going to translate to the rest of new york city but i now that's how people in the ninth district felt. >> go ahead. >> i don't think it matters -- i'm not fond of him. i don't care what he did with

social media. i don't see why the race needs him. the race is full of interesting can dates. i don't see what he bring to the table besides a lot of puns about his name. >> is there a significant difference between anthony weiner and marc sanford who was granted a second chance a couple of weeks ago? >> he was. he's engaged to his former mistrisz. anthony weiner was sending unsolicited lewd photos to unsuspecting women that could have been a crime. he was doing this from official places like his office, the house gym. i think it goes beyond -- >> the dm feature on twitter is very complex. >> official duties for several days. >> yes, that was a problem. that was an issue for his office. >> the comparison between the culture of south carolina and the culture of new york. i'm not a new yorker. >> what do you think about that, south care linians are more evangelical --

>> depend on what part of south carolina you live in, major metropolitan areas and this you've got the real south carolina. there is generally a difference between the two. >> i was going to say with sanford his kids hadn't even met his mistress or fiancee now until the campaign. like the first time she was standing there with him was the first time his kids met him. with anthony weiner he would expect people in new york city to be more forgiving. >> anthony weiner has to bring to the table what his policies are and why people should vote for him. >> andrew, go to see you, hope you come back. always a pressure irin and the biggest brain, amy holmes. that's it for me. i'll be back tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. also rock veteran and dancing with the dars, j.r. martinez

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