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businesses have created nearly 7 million new jobs over the past 38 months. >> can washington chew gum and walk at the same time? >> washington is not broken. it's broken right now for a particular reason. >> there are 47%. >> these memories will dissipate and new memories will be created. >> we've got to be the party for the 100%. >> 73% of people want to focus on the economy, rather than on these scandals. >> i must break you. >> it's not permanently broken. it can be fixed. ♪ good to have you with us tonight, folks. i want to start tonight by showing you a very important number. 73%, that's right. a new poll shows that 73% of americans think that job creation is the most important

thing, rather than investigating these alleged obama administration scandals. and if you've been watching this show over the past three months, you know you're in the alleged 73%. only 23% think they should focus on the irs or benghazi or the associated press. but i want to give you another number here this evening. here's the other nurp. four, collectively. the major sunday morning talk shows spent 4% of their time on jobs and the economy. think about that. out of 193 minutes of airtype, the american people get seven minutes and 55 seconds. that is the number that was spent on issues of what matters most to american workers and the american middle class that we're trying to save? the majority of their time was spent talking about issues like scandals. only 22% of american people even care about that. thankfully, president obama's

former senior adviser was standing by to kind of just point this out. >> the question is, is that all congress is going to do? are we just going to be obsessed with scandal and trying to score political points, or the american people cannot be screaming anymore loudly. worry about us, work on the economy. you're sent by us to do the job, to help us, to help the economy. the economy continues to strengthen and grow. we ought to look at all of these issues and look at them thoroughly. in the coming months, george, this is very important. my suspicion is the republicans in congress will stay too obsessed trying to repeal obama care for the 40th time and less on the chi. >> suspicion? there is suspicion that the republicans might focus on something else other than jobs. let's not be so coy about this. isn't it time for the democrats to go for the jugular? there is no doubt republicans will continue to tear down the president by whatever means they possibly can. republicans will continue to ignore what the american people

are focused on, saving the great american middle class, 73% of americans. congresswoman marsha blackburn wasted no time just laying out the republican party's master plan for job creation. >> the biggest impediment to job growth in this country right now is the implementation of obama care. the 29 1/2 hours, getting under 50 employees, health care becoming too expensive to afford. this program is too expensive to afford. >> there you have it. it's clear. the republican agenda will be focused on basically stealing health care from 30 million americans. let me give you some more numbers tonight, folks. since 1999, health care costs in this country have gone up three times the rate of inflation. the republicans have done absolutely nothing to turn that number around. health care costs in this country make up roughly 18% of our gdp. obama care addresses this.

you can't get dropped if you get sick by your insurance company. your coverage can't be capped. seniors are going to get discounts, 17 million kids are protected because of pre-existing condition clauses now and there. and 2.5 million students are now on their parent's plan. these are all good things. americans recognize that. that's why 73% of the american people think the most important thing is to focus on jobs. but once again, here's what we're seeing. exhibit "a." the republican party is ignoring what the people want and following their failed ideology. they are lost in the wilderness. you see, the numbers i'm giving you, this is evidence. this isn't some theory. let me give you some other numbers. 38 months of private sector job growth. 6.8 million jobs. 73% of the american people want us to continue down that road of

enhancing these numbers. now, if these were bush numbers or republican numbers, do you think we'd hear the end of it? hell, no. i'm asking you the question tonight, liberals, when do we start touting this as, we're kicking ass? when do we start touting this as, the obama economy is working. look at the market, look at these numbers. something's working that's very positive. this is where the country is. the country's not on benghazi. we've had nine hearings. the country doesn't care about the internal revenue service, because everybody that gets audited feels like they're being targeted. and the country just doesn't care what reporters do. now, i understand that there's a fine line about protecting the freedom of the press and all that kind of stuff. but the point is, if it's about security, aren't we re-hashing the same conversation we had back in the bush years on the patriot act? conservatives, what side are you on? do you want to protect the country at all costs or do you just want to get obama? the republicans now, with these

numbers of 73% and 6.8 million jobs created over 38 months, they won't talk about these numbers. they will turn it around and they will try to connect the irs to kill obama care. they will turn it around and even go so far as to say that we have to repeal obama care to create jobs in america. you know what creates jobs in america is when we, as americans, make sure that we have our lawmakers focused and they invest in american workers. buy american, good trade agreements, support american workers, and most of all, investing in our infrastructure. how many more bridges are going to fall down before congress goes back and says, you know what, maybe we ought to do something about this. and i will offer to you tonight that this is not a democratic problem. you will not find one democrat in the house or one democrat in the senate that is going to stand up and say, you know what,

we are really spending too much money on road construction and bridges and infrastructure and water projects in this country. we're just spending too much money on it. once again, it is the republicans obstructing the progress of this country. it is the republicans who are standing in the way of making us a better country. they want to take from the poor, they want to give to the rich. they want to make the tax code better for corporations, because they say it's not good enough as it is right now, even though a lot of them aren't even paying their fair share. in the meantime, we crumple from within. and we're told that we have to take health care away from people to create jobs in america. i find it utterly amazing, but i also believe in my heart that the republicans have never been so ripe for the taking. they have never been so politically ripe for the taking. and now this, 2013, is going to be a far more important year than 2014. we need to continue to build our

progressive infrastructure and don't be talked down and raze that we can't be coy about great numbers. 38 months, 6.8 million jobs, when can we say we've won? when can the democrats not be so shy about numbers that are great! get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, are you sick of republicans cooking up scandals? text "a" for yes, text "b" for no to 67622. you can always go to ed.msnbc.com. i'm joined by congressman yarmouth of kentucky, jim mcdermott, and e.j. dionne of "washington post." congressman mcdermott, what's your reaction to marsha blackburn saying that repealing obama care will create jobs?

>> in fact, it's been one of the places that jobs have been created in the last, since the obama care went in place. americans want this change, and what is driving the republicans crazy at this point is the fact that obama care is actually going into effect and the american people are seeing the positives of it and are saying, gee, they never told us that. well, they are now being exposed for the deception that they've tried to run on the american people, and repealing health care simply is not what the people want. they saw all that before the last election. and the people said, we don't want it repealed, we want more of obama. and they gave him a bigger election this last time. so the republicans are just in the wrong track. >> well, they speak in generic terms. they talk about regulations, but never identify exactly what is going to happen that is going to hurt the job market. most of obama care has already been implemented, and yet we're

still headed in the right direction when it comes to creating jobs in this country. congressman yarmouth, to do republicans care more about bringing down the president with scandals than they do creating jobs? >> well, i don't think there's any question about that, ed. and basically, their problem is that the one thing that they think that will create jobs, which is cut people's taxes, cut the taxes for the very wealthiest americans, they tried for ten years. it didn't work in creating jobs, and now they're without any ideas. and you know, when you talk about health care, you have to remember, going back to 2009 before, or while we were debating the affordable care act, premiums in this country were going up 38% a year. there were almost a million bankruptcies a year. those bankruptcies will now be eliminated under the affordable care act. rates are now rising at a very, very slow rate. we've held costs down in medicare to less than half of the growth rate that we had

before. so those things all strengthen the economy. and just one anecdotal piece of evidence from my district, humana insurance company is based here, there are now 2,000 more employees at humana than there were before the affordable care act. >> well, that's because they've got more customers, i would imagine. they've got 30 million more people who are coming in, that are getting insured. we're having better outcomes. we've got more on this on how it's expanding medicare, its years of existence and solidifying that. we'll get to that later. e.j. dionne, do you think republicans will be able to ignore numbers like this? 70% of americans want them to work on the economy and they simply will not do it. what's the political downfall, if anything? >> well, i think they're going to try, but what i think you're seeing in the numbers on president obama's approval is just as americans care more about the economy than the so-called scandals, so is the president holding up his popularity in most of the polls,

because americans can feel this. you see it in the numbers about economic confidence, looking forward. and i think it's really important to talk about health care. i think democrats and liberals have shied away from talking about it, because they look at polls and say, gee, this is unpopular. so the only people left talking about it are on the other side. and i think congressman yarmouth made a very important point. we are finally beginning to get a handle on health care costs, which in turn is going to help our budget problem. it's helping it on medicare. it's not all obama care. no one's saying that. but obama care so far has played a positive role on an issue that conservatives keep telling us is a very important issue. >> congressman mcdermott, what are the chancing of getting the republicans to work with you to pass some kind of jobs package between now and the midterm, or is that a bridge too far, no pun intended? >> i think, ed, we've had evidence already that it's a bridge too far.

newt gingrich said in 19 4, if we're going to take the house over, we're going to have to attack the democrats. and it took him ten years to get the house and that same thing is going on now, as scandal after scandal, that is their only strategy. they cover it with a kind of ideology, but basically, their political maneuvers are all personal attacks on people. the irs, benghazi -- >> congressman yarmouth, it's -- >> it is all there. and that's all they have right now. and for them to go so far as to say that we're going to create jobs by repealing obama care is just beyond the pale. congressman yarmouth, what about a disaster relief package. is there going to be a big fight over that? >> well, it's going to be interesting, because you now have the most recent disaster in a very red, republican state of oklahoma. but, you know, the real key here

is, we've got evidence from around the world, we look at what's happened in europe with an unemployment rate of 12%, when the government's backed out of helping to support the economy. we've got lots of great things, what we can do in this country, building infrastructure. i know we're going to talk about that later. and disaster relief does stimulate the economy. no question about that. >> austerity is not working in europe. they have got all kinds of economic problems, further than what we have ever imagined. e.j. dionne, congressman yarmouth, congressman mcdermott, stay with us. we've got a lot more to talk about tonight. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us @edshow on twitter. john boehner takes a break from working on his tan this week and i'll tell you what he's not working on. >> hell, no, you can't! and later, the affordable care act lives up to its name. senator bernie sanders, independent from vermont, joins me to discuss the good news for

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america doesn't have a spending problem, republicans, it has an infrastructure problem. we're so worried about kids getting shot up at schools, but we're not too worried about their buses crossing bridges, are we? this is unacceptable, and it's a result of republican austerity and their absolute attitude towards what infrastructure is all about in america. yeah, yeah, yeah, that was last week. we talked about infrastructure. we pointed out the need for congress to step forward and do something about crumbling bridges in this country to create jobs. well, our infrastructure is crumbling in america, followed by a lack of commitment to fix our roads and our bridges. well, the weather just continues to tear out portions of the country. lawmakers were on vacation this week when they had a chance to go home and see firsthand what americans are concerned about. republicans were conveniently out of the office, while another

deadly string of tornadoes struck the midwest. even as the severe weather tears up our nation's roads and homes, republicans prevent states from getting the help that they desperately need. how can they fight over that? but they do. the bridge that collapsed in washington state a couple of weeks ago is going to cost more to repair and the temporary bridge isn't going to be ready for the next few weeks to come. although the conversation of infrastructure seems to escape this sunday morning talk shows, you know. instead, republicans want to talk about the same-old two-word slogans, like spending addiction, tax cuts, government takeover, repeal obama care. i would rather focus on a two-word phrase, "rebuild america." rebuild america is where we need to be in this country. that's where we are. but right now, standing in the way of rebuilding america is an

ideology coming from the republicans that, basically, has the country stuck in the mud. i'm joined again tonight by congressman john yarmouth, jim mcdermott, and e.j. dionne. e.j., you first on this statement. can we make a declarative statement that democrats are not the problem when it comes to infrastructure spending. that there is one party that does recognize and is willing to make a strong commitment in this area? it is the republicans that's holding everything up. your thought? >> well, i don't think democrats are raising this issue enough or reminding people that there was a day when republicans were as committed to this sort of investment as democrats were. you know, sometimes, i think we just got the wrong word. infrastructure is such a boring word. henry clay -- >> it's hard to rally around a bridge, i admit it. there's not a whole lot of emotions in there. >> at least a bridge is concrete. henry clay, the 19th century politician used to talk about internal improvements. i like that a lot better. and there's another term we could use, which is, capital

investment. you know, we've heard the term job killers from conservatives. well, what kills jobs is when people can't get their goods to market when the roads aren't good. what kills jobs is when our railways don't work the way they could. we could be investing in things that are good for the long-term of the country and actually help the private economy. and we ought to talk about it a lot more than we do. >> well, let me tell you about the results of this bridge falling down. according to "the new york times," sales are down 50 to 80% in the areas surrounding the collapsed bridge. congressman mcdermott, can we fix this problem in your state? and this is lost business, this is going to affect families. many small businesses operate, maybe, month-to-month. you know, this business interruption is a big deal. where do we go? >> well, you know, ed, we have not raised the gas tax since 1963. now, gasoline consumption has

gone down, so the amount per gallon isn't bringing in the money. we have to have more money in our road fund and the bridge that went down is the link between canada, which is our number one trading partner, and california. everything that goes from california north goes up i-5. and here you take out a bridge right the in the middle of it, and you are going to have impacts from that. and that's happening all over the country. there is no excuse for it. we know where the bridges are. we simply don't have enough money to do it. and it's only political will that stands in the way of us creating jobs that pay decent wages, that will get the economy going, and also give us a return to eisenhower, for heaven's sakes. when you have to think abouti e eisenhower as the great infrastructure guy. >> that's going back a long way. that's how they fund infrastructure in minnesota as

well, through the gas tax. but congressman yarmouth, looking at this fight that's coming up over disaster, if we can't fund disasters and we can't fund bridges, if we're stuck in the ideological hedge row country where nobody can move, what happens? what is it going to take to move the other side, to get them to recognize that we are playing with people's lives and this is important stuff? it is hard to mgsally rally around a bridge being built, but have we lost the sight of what's important and what is needed in this country, because we're so politically bent? >> well, i think that's right. and when you have republicans, for just the last 20 years or at least, talking about, we've got to cut spending, we've got to cut spending, that has resonates with people and they don't stop to think what that means. that it does mean, actually, that we lose our infrastructure, we lose our law enforcement, we lose our education system, we lose ground and research. we had a bridge here in my district connecting indiana and

kentucky, i-65, that was closed for six months for repairs, because, fortunately, they found cracks in the foundation, were able to fix them. our economy suffered just as much then. but, you know, there's an idea out there. we talked about this the other day on your radio program. john delaney, my democratic colleague from maryland has an idea to allow the companies who have parked a lot of cash overseas, profits that they would like to repatriate to this country, let them come in and buy bonds that have a very, very low rate of return, that would then be used to fund infrastructure in this country and create jobs and make the kind of repairs in our infrastructure that will guarantee that our businesses have the ability to thrive going forward. >> that's an idea. that's an idea. that's a proposal. we don't even get that out of the republicans. they are null and void of any idea or process that would take us to a better infrastructure in this country. e.j. dionne, how does the

president play this? >> first of all, i do think he needs to raise the issue more than he has. he's proposed this. he's proposed an infrastructure bank. congressman delaney's idea, actually, is an interesting, sort of addition to the president's idea. and he's got to remind people that we built ourselves as a country over 150 years. this goes way back to a time when republicans, and wigs for that matter, like clay and lincoln, all the way through to eisenhower, knew that if we wanted to be a country that was moving forward, we had to make these investments. they are legitimately investments. this isn't just liberals trying to paste the investment label over spending. >> i want to finish with you as well, e.j. dionne, because why does it seem like major media people in this country are afraid to say 38 months of private sector job growth and 6.8 million jobs created?

it's almost as if we're ashamed of these numbers. nothing's ever good enough anymore? what's happening? this is a hell of a run. >> well, i've got to say, it troubles me that in the media, we, a, don't talk about economics enough, as it relates to working people. both the jobs created, and the jobs we still need to create, which is why we feed to invest in infrastructure. and we're much more comfortable talking about everything around inequality and the problems working families have, of the person at "the new york times," the public editor said, why don't the poor ever get into the newspapers these days? let's start talking about middle-income people, poor people, what they need, and the fact the job growth is the most important thing to them. >> gentleman, thank you for coming in and working on a sunday. i appreciate it so much. congressman john yarmouth, john mcdermott, e.j. dionne, thanks so much.

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of union membership is concentrated in 16 states across this country. and when you look at the attack on labor that has taken place in america, all of this right to work legislation that is being proposed on the state level is very detrimental to organizing. it's going to take a lot of people in the congress who are willing to go for the employee free choice act and give the power to the workers in the workplace to organize, protect themselves, and also advocate for better wage, better pension, better health care. it can happen. you're never going to get it out of the republicans. you will get it out of the democrats. in fact, if you are a wage earner, i would like to know why would uh ever even think of voting for a republican? unions can save the middle class in this country, because unions built this country. our next question comes from james mills. he says, how would you advise president obama to deal with

congress? well, it's not so much dealing with congress. and i'm not diverting from your question, as it is, dealing with the american people. if ed schultz was sitting in the oval office, and say i had axelrod's job, as i used to have, or gibbs' someone like that. if i was actually someone who was advising the president, i would turn president obama into the biggest gladiator for health care that the face of the earth has ever seen. i would force him, through conversation, not force him, i would say, mr. president, you have to go round two of health care. they are attacking us, they are attacking american families, they are easy pickings, we have won this argument. let's go for round two. you have nothing to lose. let's start talking about universal health care. let's definitely start talking about the public option, but let's go for the whole ball of wax. we'll win if we do that. speaking of the gladiator, i believe that there was a line in

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real talk time. thanks for watching us tonight. welcome back to "the ed show." the scandal-obsessed republicans still keep trying to take the focus away from what really matters to people in this country. what really matters to most americans are things like the big three. i have some bad news for republicans tonight. this week, the social security and medicare board of trustees

released their annual report. by the latest calculations, medicare's main trust fund will be fully solvent through the year 2026. that's two years longer than projected, just last year. and over a decade later than what trustees projected back in 2009. and i have some more bad news for republicans. >> the medicare report demonstrates once again, the importance of the financial act. >> remember when republicans were out there pushing this story? >> there's only one president that i know of in history, that robbed medicare $716 billion to pay for a new risky program of his own that we call obama care. >> the president raised $716 billion from the medicare program to pay for the obama care program. >> this president stole, he

didn't cut medicare, he stole $700 billion from medicare to fund obama care. >> and the reality is, obama care has done the opposite. it's taking $700 billion in wasteful spending and using it to extend the life of medicare. now, this year's projections for social security are basically unchanged from last year, with the social security trust fund set to run out of money in 2033. deputy labor secretary seth harris offered his take on how to keep moving forward. >> one of the most important steps that could be taken to shore up the social security and medicare trust funds would be for congress to enact president obama's agenda to create jobs and raise workers' wages. >> he exactly right. but there's one part of president obama's agenda which has progressive out there very concerned. and that is the offer to switch to a chained cpi formula for social security. any defender of the big three

knows that that's really just political speak for cutting benefits. no one knows this better or has fought harder to protect those benefits than my next guest. joining me tonight, senator bernie sanders, independent from vermont. senator, good to have you with us tonight. this report from the trustees, the board of trustees, their annual report, pretty much is evidence that what we're trying to do in the progressive agenda in this country is correct for people. your thoughts? >> well, what it tells us is what everybody who studied the issue already knows. and that is, ed, social security can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible american for the next 20 years, despite our right-wing friend's assertion, social security is not going bankrupt, it is not in crisis. what our goal is first to prevent any cuts to social security, because you know and i know that millions and millions of seniors are just hanging in

there economically, having trouble buying their prescription drugs, keeping their homes warm in the winter time. we must not cut social security. the so-called chained cpi would make a cut of $650 ten years out. if you're 65, by the time you're 75, $650 a year less than you otherwise would have gotten also makes cuts and benefits for disabled veterans unacceptable. >> what about medicare? i mean, this is the most positive news that obama care, because this was a focal point of what the republicans were saying before the last election. were they lying? >> yes. i mean, the bottom line is, one of the reasons that we are making substantial progress in cutting the deficit has to do with the fact that spending and health care in general and in medicare is going down. that is really good news. and in fact, some of what we have done in the congress through the affordable care act has squeezed some of the waste out of health care and also, we

have done a better job in terms of wellness and disease prevention, which is going to pay dividends in years to come. having said the that, ed, we have got to be mindful that today, we continue to spend twice per capita any other nation despite having millions of people with no insurance. and that is why in my view, we've got to go beyond obama care, move to a single payer health care system, which can guarantee health care to all people in a much more cost effective way. >> so we're on the same page. i was asked the question by our viewers tonight in the "ask ed" segment, waddhat would you advi prp prm to do? we've got to go round two of health care. if they want to keep voting obama care down in the house, you've got to be offensive and go after it the other way and counter it and say it's time now to go to round two and talk about universal health care. but universal health care polls better than anything else in

medical coverage provided in this country. and we don't talk about it enough. >> ed, i just had the ambassador from denmark coming to vermont a couple of weeks ago. in denmark, this is what he told us. all of their people have universal health care, you go to a doctor, you don't take your wallet out. you go to the hospital, you don't take your wallet out, and they end up spending about 50% per capita of what we spend on health care, because they don't have for-profit health care systems, health care insurance companies ripping off the system or all of the waste and bureaucracy that we have. they put a much greater emphasis on primary health care, which is the right thing to do for people's health and it saves money long-term. >> what about the democrats protecting social security and not getting on this chained cpi bandwagon. how much of a push is it going to take to get that off the table? >> let me give you the bad fuse and let me give you the good news. the bad news, the president has

proposed this so-called chained cpi. the good news is i offered an amendment during the budget debate and it got passed unanimously, and the resolution was, in opposition to a chained cpi. nobody wanted to stand up, nobody. and say, i think it's a good idea to cut social security. tom harkin introduced the resolution. he has 18 co-sponsors on that, no cuts in chained cpi. also, this is what i'm perceiving and why i believe, ed, we're going to win this. because the average politician out there, when he or she is running for office and gets back to their district, you know what, they're not campaigning on, i'm going to cut social security and benefits for disabled veterans. that may sound good in capitol hill, but it does not sound good among the american people, who overwhelmingly understand that the way to deficit reduction is end to these huge corporate loopholes, one out of four corporations, not paying a nickel in taxes, at a time when

the wealthy are becoming phenomenally wealthier, ask them to start paying their fair share of taxes. don't cut social security, don't cut medicare. >> senator sanders, always a pleasure. good to have you with us on this sunday evening. thank you so much. tonight in our survey, i asked you, are you sick of republicans cooking up scandals. 99% of you, sick of it, 1% of you can't get enough of it. we're taking this pretender to the cleaners, next. there's a reason no one says "easy like monday morning." sundays are the warrior's day to unplug and recharge. what if this feeling could last all week? with centurylink as your trusted partner, it can. our visionary cloud infrastructure and global broadband network free you to focus on what matters. with custom communications solutions and dedicated support,

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tonight is tom stossel. he unloaded his latest load of garbage on the curvy couch earlier this week. >> think about the depression. that was before this was any welfare state at all. how many people starved? no one. >> right. >> good point. >> good point? really. stossel really impressed steve with his fraudulent knowledge of basic american history. but anyone with half a brain knows how dumb the statement was. luckily enough, stossel has a half a brain. the next day, he tweeted a non-apology apology. stossel can pretend, he can pretend that he really is understanding how dumb he was, but he has a long history as a faker. last year, the highly paid tv host dressed up like a homeless man and proved another fraudulent front, which stossel dropped some knowledge. >> i had heard that some people beg for a living and can make

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and we're back. here's a story for the folks who take a shower after work. yeah. segment we do here every night on the ed show. think about that. we got news for people who take a shower after work. the real workers of america. republicans lost big time last year because they alienated middle class voters.

mid romney was toast after this video surfaced. >> there are 47% of the people who will vote for the president. my job is not to worry about those people, i'll never convince them that they should take responsibility and care for their lives. what i have to do is convince the 5% to 10% in the center that are independent. >> still music to my ears. apparently republicans they vice president learned anything since the last election. listen to what tea party senator of texas ted cruz said this week. >> i got to tell you, as a conservative, i cannot think of an idea more opposite what we believe. i think republicans are and should be the party of the 47%. >> are and should be? either you are or you aren't. ted cruz talks a good game, but pandering to a mythical 47%, it

isn't going to apply. here's what he's really telling families. he's sponsored three different bills and amendments to repeal or defund obamacare. his first speech as a senator was about gutting obamacare. cruise otherwise voted against hurricane sandy relief because he said it wouldn't have enough money to help families and small businesses. in the next breath, cruz voted to increase funding for a missile defense shield, for the same part of the east coast hit hardest by the storm. and he sponsored an amendment to kill federal labor regulations. senat cruz wants to turn labor regulations over to the states and kill federal oversight all together. here's what happens when we don't have good federal regulations for workers in this country. this is when deregulation looks like in bangladesh. at least 11027 low wage workers died when their factory

collapsed in april in banglad h bangladesh. employers get to build unsafe sweat shops terribly unsafe environment to work in without a damn government regulation. joining me now is the man who made the words 47% famous. scott, good to have you with us tonight. i know you're going to bangladesh and we'll talk about that in a moment. but i want to know your thoughts, what if senator cruz's world was reality? and he gets his way on workers' issues? what would it do? >> you know, thanks for having me, ed. last couple months, i've had the privilege of traveling around the country and i've met with hundreds of steel workers all over from california to wisconsin to philly. and when i say steel workers, they make paper, they make plastics, they make chemicals,

glass and rubber. these people are red, white and blue americans. they're regular guys and women and they are really the backbone of american manufacturing. and the thing that i've seen from meeting them is i think they want -- what they want is fair wages and they want safe working conditions. and at the end of decades of service, i think they hope to retire with dignity. and i don't think that's too much to ask for and it's hard to emergency why it's a priority right now to go after people like them. >> wouldn't it be a disaster if it was turned over to the states? states would be able to do whatever they want with hwork h is. is that a bridge too far to think about, that we would become a bangladesh and so much conditions up safe in america? would it go that far? >> i think it does.

bangladesh it seems like it's a world away, but for me it's a perfect example of what happens when corporations don't have some oversight when workers don't have the ability to bargain collectively. you know, corporations time and time again, they show that they will take the short cuts in regards to safety, they're willing to pay near starvation wages if they can get away with it. and bank la desh is realbanglad perfect example. >> why are you going there? >> i'm heading over next week with the institute of global labor and human rights. there's a lot of people you mentioned over 1,000 people were killed, the injuries are absolutely horrific. crushing injuries. and those people, their lives are basically over. there's orphans, there's people that don't have anything left.

and so we're shooting to go over and just help out in any way we can. and he try to provide some comfort for them. >> keep up the fight, scott. we can't let it get to a state level. scott, thanks so much. th that's the ed show. see you back here next saturday. [ musick ] i knew there were a lot of tech jobs

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