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you're not made of money, so don't overpay for boat insurance. geico, see how much you could save. hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the "news nation" is following late-breaking developments following a british paper that says the obama administration is collecting phone records of millions of verizon records. air force one, which just brought president obama to north carolina, white house spokesperson josh earnest insisted the court order allowing the collection of those records is a critical tool to fight security threats. meantime, democratic senator dianne feinstein of california chairs the senate intelligence committee, says it is part of an ongoing practice. >> this is a routine every three
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months, court reauthorization of a program that's been in existence for a very long time. >> attorney general eric holder was asked about the matter. a senate hearing just a couple of hours ago. take a listen. >> without getting into anything specific, i will say this, that with regard to the members of congress have been fully briefed as these issues, matters have been under way. i'm not really comfortable in saying an awful lot more about that. >> and according to the guardian newspaper report, which nbc news has not confirmed, the court order requires verizon to turn over records of the private calls of customers on, quote, an ongoing, daily basis to the national security agency and that order, by the way, set to expire july 19th. the government is not listening to phone calls but is collecting
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so called mehta data, phone numbers, the time of call, the mow lowe case, and any unique identifiers. contin without confirming the guardian report, verizon issued a statement several hours ago saying the law authorizes the federal courts to order a company to provide information in certain circumstances and if verizon were to receive such an order, we would be required to comply. among the reactions to all of this, al gore tweeted in digital era, privacy must be a priority. is it just me or is secret blanket surveillance obscenely outrageous? rand paul of kentucky says in part an astounding assault on the constitution. that's what he referred to it as. there was this from republican senator lindsey graham. >> i'm a verizon customer. it doesn't bother me one bit that the national security administration has my phone number.
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>> let us bring in nbc news justice correspondent pete williams. obviously, pete, a lot of moving parts but at this point people greatly want to hear from the white house and how they perhaps will explain even if they can at this point the information that the guardian is reporting. >> well, they've talked around it because it is a classified program, but there doesn't seem to be much secret based on what the white house administration officials and members of congress are saying that what we have seen in this "guardian" document is a little silver into this practice that's been going on for years, authorized by congress, briefed to members of congress, and sent up in documents that all members of the house and senate were welcome to see. you see laid bare a pretty wide variety of views from members about whether it's appropriate or not, whether they think it's constitutional or not. but nonetheless, you know, this is not a disclosure of a new program. it is further insight into what
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the government has been doing for at least six or seven years. >> and certainly -- and people talked with michael leiter about that to your point that this is not new. i think one of the headlines on politico said "bush fourth term," trying to link the prior administration to this administration, saying it is a continuing of what the aclu and others have objected to for a very long time. but i heard you earlier refer to the possibility of investigation of this leak which, of course, started all of this. >> well, i think it is a possibility. senator feinstein, when she was on with andrea an hour or so ago, said she thinks the leak ought to be investigated. and maybe it will be. it seems likely to me it probably will be given the sensitivity of this document. it's one of the most classified documents i've ever seen made public by somebody. but first of all, in terms of the process, the intelligence agency responsible for this program has to refer it to justice and seek a leak. that hasn't happened yet. then the justice department would have to consider whether to do the investigation. that hasn't happened yet. so there is no investigation
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now, but it does seem likely that there will be one. >> and just before i let you go, pete, again, emphasizing that members of congress were aware of this. i mean, this has not been in a vacuum or bubble within the white house. >> well, that's right. and the white house points that out as well. they say, you know, this is something that is approved by the courts. you saw the court order here in paper now, and that congress authorized when it reauthorized the pap anticipate rot act. we should say briefly, i think, tamron, what this is. this is the government saying to verizon and we presume -- and we have no reason to think not -- all the other phone companies, those that are going to comply with this program, every day tell us the -- give us the records of all the calls that are made on your system. we don't want to know the names. we just want the numbers, who they called, how long the phone lasted. that is kept behind a wall, if you will, metaphorically speaking, in a big tank, if you will, at the nurgt agency.
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and when there's reason to believe a phone number discovered in an investigation might relate to a terrorism investigation, then they can snerge that database to see if there's a hit and where that takes them. so that's our understanding of how this is used. >> all right. thank you very much, pete. let me bring in now nbc news counterterrorism analyst michael leiter who served as director of the national counterterrorism center in both the george w. bush and obama administration. staff attorney for the aclu, national security program. gentlemen, thanks for joining. michael, as i mentioned to pete williams, we have this big headline on politico saying bush fourth term. obviously, making the link that this is a continuation of what we saw after 9/11. what i am curious about is in this court order it's focused on april 25th and is good until july 19th. how do you explain the time line there? >> most orders for electronic surveillance are explicitly limbed in their time frame so
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courts have an opportunity to review them regularly to make sure that the facts haven't changed, to make sure, for example, that a suspect is still a suspect or that there's still a threat which would justify the collection. so i think in a case like this that you have a very compact window of 90 days, that suggests that there is likely very, very regular review by the courts. >> back to obviously the bigger picture here, we saw people greatly upset after 9/11, concerned that in the effort to rid, if you can, terrorism, that the privacy of innocent people would be compromised here. you can imagine, michael, when folks woke up and they saw millions, 10 million verizon customers a part of this, even if the conversations were not listened to, to know that you are part of this sweep would be unsettling. >> absolutely. i think it's impossible to see this report and not say, wow, is the government collecting too much, doing too much? starting from that point, i think there are probably three quick points i would make.
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first, this isn't about content. it's about numbers, durations of calls. so that produces the privacy infringement. second, what this order doesn't tell us is what the government can't do with that information, how it can look at it, how it can disseminate it. and the law requires a set of procedures called minimization procedures that would limit what the government can do. and third, we've heard some from pete and others is that there is in this case oversight by congress and the courts. all that being said, this is still obviously something that's got to be examined. >> let me bring in alexander. you heard the list, alexander, numbers, duration of calls. you're not being actually, quote, unquote, listened to, any of the things that michael just lined up make you feel any better about what's happening? >> no, unfortunately, they don't. the national security agency now has the authority to track the calls of every american, even purely domestic calls. and that's incredibly unsettling. some people have pointed out that it's limited to who you call when you call and how long you talk.
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but it could also reveal where you're calling from, and it's important to remember in the era of internet communication this type of meta data as they call it sometimes is more revealing than what you say on the call. it can reveal your political associations, your religious affiliations, your medical doctors, what doctors are calling as well, even your infideli infidelities. that's not information the government should have unless it's targeting a specific terrorist or investigation. >> you heard dianne feinstein and others say this is not new, this has been ongoing. your reaction to that, alexander. >> that makes the revelation all the more shocking. i think it's worth pointing out that what we have is just the tip of the iceberg. there's no reason to believe this order or similar orders are limited to telephone companies. it's very likely that the nsa has similar orders for all the major internet companies. so the government can acquire -- contract not just your calls who you're e-mailing, when you're e-mailing them, who you're
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talking with online through internet chats, maybe even the websites you visit. the sheer breadth of information should be chilling to any american concerned with privacy. >> michael, i want to read what then senator obama said regarding the patriot act in 2005. "if someone wants to know why their own government has decided to go on a fishing expedition through every personal record or private document through library pooks they've read and phone calls they've made, this legislation gives people no rights the appeal for such a search in a court of law. no judge will hear their plea, no jury will hear their case. this is just plain wrong." 2005 then senator obama. >> well, i think when you're faced with being the commander in chief to defend the nation against terrorist attacks your perspective does undoubtedly change. the only other thing i would say is just because the government has collected this information, the question is what they're doing with it after they collect it. and if you can go on fishing expeditions and go through all this to try to find, you know,
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who's with whom, that might be a problem. but the question is, is there a predicate of terrorism to dive into this sort of phone data, and i think that really does reduce any potential privacy interest, but there are real privacy sbrelss here. >> michael, thank you very much. pleasure to have you gentlemen on. following breaking news out of new jersey where governor chris christie in the last 30 minutes announced he is appointing new jersey attorney general chris chiesa to ho-- je chiesa to hold senator frank lautenberg's seat. mark murray, what can you tell us about the pick of jeff chia is a and this continued criticism that chris christie is receiving about the amount of money that will be spent on this special election? >> tamron, what i can tell you about jeff kchiesa is when you pick an interim person, you can go two different way, the place holder route, someone close to the principal, someone who would
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be very close to new jersey governor chris christie, and someone who's going to be in there for a short amount of time. the other way you go is big with a big name, a big politician who can continue to win that contest in future elections. it appears chris christie has gone route one. jeff chiesa has been very close to him, his former counselor before becoming state attorney general. so that seems to be the route that he's going, and then that means that all the attention goes to the political contest to finally fill this seat come october 2013. tamron, you also mentioned the cost of having the primary and the general election combined $24 million. chris christie still getting criticism from that will. but the story is begin to move on. we're talking about jeff chiesa and maybe a crowded democratic primary in the fight to fill that seat. >> i want to transition, throwing you a curveball here, but i want to get your perspective at least on this "guardian" report and these wave
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of questions related to now knowing that millions of americans, their phone records through verizon have been accessed. >> tamron, it's obviously a political story and something that we're following. it's an interesting political story in that it is united. the critics here are the libertarians and the liberals, and when you look at whether to reauthorize the patriot act or other fisa reauthorizations, those have always been reauthorized and passed by a very solid majority, but it has been the libertarians and the liberals who have criticized that. once again we're seeing those folks unite in their criticism, but it is worth noting they are a minority up on capitol hill. >> yeah, and you pointed out in the note that it passed the house 301 to 118. obviously a majority in the senate, in the senate, 19 of the 23 were republicdemocrats, 3 republicans. those preventing fisa reauthorization in 2012. >> mm-hmm. you end up having this alliance of liberals and libertarians
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here, but when it comes to national security matters, we've often seen that both parties, their establishments line up on the commander in chief, the national security apparatus having very broad powers. ? mark, thank you very much. i really appreciate it. developing now day one of george zimmerman's final hearing before the trial gets under way on monday. one of the issues the judge will decide, whether to allow voice analysis, suggesting that it was trayvon martin's screams heard in the background of that 911 tape. we'll talk with an audio expert on what the judge could be weighing here. plus, new information on paris jackson's alleged suicide attempt. e news is reporting michael jackson's 15-year-old daughter possibly felt bullied at school and that she struggled to fit in. join our conversation on twitter. find ut at tamron hall and news nation. twenty-five thousand mornings, give or take,
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doping right now, a florida judge is hearing arguments just day before the trial against george zimmerman begins. one of the most important motions at issue today, whether scientific evidence is admissible. the state wants to use an expert who says trayvon martin is heard screaming on the 911 call. now, the defense wants to block that evidence. trayvon martin's family has maintained that voice was their son. zimmerman claims it is his voice. take a listen.
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ron joins us now. >> reporter: anyone expecting a little snappier pace to today's proceedings are probably disappointed because so far we have not heard any testimony on this frye hearing they are calling it here in florida. that relates to this 911 tape we just heard. one of the experts who's listened to this tape, a gentleman by the name of alan reich, has made perhaps the most declarative conclusions about who's speaking at which times on this tape. he contends that it is trayvon martin who is yelling, quote, i'm begging you, and stop, right before the gunshot was heard. the defense of course is arguing otherwise. they believe the scientific methods used by that particular expert are not generally accepted in the voice recognition community. that's what the judge is going to determine when they get around to hearing this argument. so far today, though, they've
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spent most of the time talking about the defense argument that the prosecution should be censured in some way, sanctioned for allegedly withholding evidence from them. some spark sparks on the stand right now. one of the counsel for george zimmerman is on the stand being cross-examined by the prosecution today. interesting testimony but not related to the 911 call as of this time. >> ron, let me ask you, i do know that as well in this two-day hearing there's some key words or phrases that are al being discussed, whether they can be used or certain language can be used once this trial actually begins on monday or the jury selection starts. >> reporter: right. the court has not heard that in testimony today. essentially what the defense is asking there are certainly highly charged words such as profiling be banned in this case because they would tend to show mr. zimmerman in an unfavorable light to the jury. that motion has been filed. the judge has not opened that up for discussion as of yet. we are going to go to presumably
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4:00 or 5:00 today, and then there's always tomorrow. a lot of stuff to get in over the next day or so, tamron. >> thank you, ron. appreciate the live report. let me bring in criminal defense attorney john burris and the president and founder of the national center for audio and video forensics. george zimmerman has sued n nbcuniversal for defamation and the country is strongly denying those allegations. david, you heard ron say they've not gotten into the meat of the big issue of this audio heard in the background at least according to the prosecution and trayvon martin's family, that it is his voice. what does the judge need to weigh with this scientific evidence? >> well, it's a very controversial technique that the prosecution i think is relying upon in this case, because the audio is extremely hard to hear.
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you're only hearing screams. you're not hearing words you can compare scientifically with all the new software out. it's very controversial amongst many audio experts that they can actually determine who this is. >> when you is say controvers l controversial, is that a more gentle way of saying there's no way to absolutely determine whose voice that is? >> from my perspective, at this point with my knowledge and all the aspects of this audio, i think it is not possible to determine who it is on the tape. i think it's a little cavalier to definitively, excuse me, determine who it is. >> but as you well know, the prosecution says it has experts that it can present that will, given their various opinions on the audio evidence, would lead to the fact it is trayvon martin's voice. how is a judge, who is not a scientific expert -- and we've seen this many times, casey anthony trial, a lot of high profile, where it comes down to
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evidence and science or the analysis of that and people don't understand and they have to decide if that expert like yourself credible. >> you're exactly right. i don't know how the judge is going to be able to determine this. i think he's going to have to allow it in for now and he's going to have to see what the experts say on both sides and it's going to be in their hands. there's going to be a witness making -- you know, who made this 911 call who i'm guessing will be up on the stand, and they can take this witness through that audio step by step, and i think that's going to be why they're going to allow it. i'm not an attorney, but i believe from my experience that's what's going to happen. >> yjohn, let me bring you in. you are an attorney. we enjoy your perspective. one of the motion theys ear looking at is phrases and certain words, the defense says file this motion to block the use of some of the following words -- vigilante, profile, self-appointed neighborhood watch captain, wannabe cop. they also want to dispute that he got out of the car after
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police or the dispatcher told him not to, he being george zimmerman, and that he continue fronted trayvon martin. talk to me about the strategy there, especially, for example, the word profile or any variation of it. >> yeah. i can see where that would be a troubling issue for a judge to allow in. it is an explosive word, and it's not likely the judge would allow that to come in. it's a conclusion nary term, an opinion. but i think the other things as it relates to getting out of the car and being a self-imposed kind of law enforcement officer may very well qom in. but any opinionated words that describe what he was doing, vigilante type, that's just not going to come in. i think it's more prejudicial than probative. i think a judge would not allow it. those words are highly inflammatory. but what he actually did getting out of that car and whether or not he was following or not or stalking or not, those terms will come in if, in fact, there is someone to testify to it. and i think they can probably do that by showing, based upon the
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tape and also based upon his improvements and if they allow the girl's testimony to come in describing what trayvon was saying about being followed and even zimmerman himself, who said he was attacked by walking back to his car. it would suggest he made a substantial amount of movement in trying to follow him. the words such as vigilante and profile probably would not come in but the other terms will come in. >> as you mentioned, the state's in various interview, is the sanford police say zimmerman got out of the car but only to look for a street name because the dispatcher asked him. that's a different account from what we're expecting the witness who was on the phone with trayvon martin to say. but nevertheless to your point, some of these words may be taken out, but that is a critical part. what his actions were, his intent were. >> absolutely. and those go to his credibility, as well, because making those statements, and there's going to be factual evidence from other
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witnesses and even his movements show that's inconsistent with his statement. so his credibility obviously is on question here. but there's going to be a lot of evidence out there to challenge whether or not he was, in fact, did what he said he did. >> gentlemen, thank you very much for your time. we'll continue to follow this hearing. florida starting to feel the effects of tropical storm andrea, the first named storm of the season. some parts already starting to feel the effects. we'll get an update as the storm is expected to head up the east coast. first in today's "money minute," a look at how wall street is performing right now. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting
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hurricane season. andrea is expected to make landfall very soon on florida's west coast. the storm will then move across the state and into the southeast. but the immediate threat today anyway, tornadoes. early this morning, at least three twisters touched down in the tampa area. the damage was minor, no injuries have been reported thankfully. weather channel meteorologist mike lowry joins us with the latest. >> the storm's approaching the coast, should be making landfall in the next few hours. it's not so much about the location of the landfall as it is the size of the storm. it's having impacts across florida. the storm now about 35 miles west-southwest of cedar key, florida. this is up here in the big bend area of florida. maximum winds at 60 miles per hour. notice this rigbright band of clouds. this is heavy rainfall that's been streaming across the florida peninsula all day today causing some very heavy rains and flooding concerns. those will continue even as andrea moves further inland.
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now, over the course of the day, it will accelerate northeastward and up the coast. tomorrow morning it will be in the carolinas and by saturday morning into the northeast. at this point, though, it will have lo its tropical characterist characteristics, which means its winds won't be as strong but it will bring a heavy rainfall threat across the northeast. we'll continue to watch that. in addition to the rainfall, we're watching for storm surge. 2 to 5 feet of storm surge in parts of the florida big bend area. this will cause some minor flooding. again, the main story here is the rainfall. take a look at the radar. these are heavy showers that have been moving over the same area. in sarasota, north port venice, very heavy rainfall and will continue through the day as andrea makes landfall in the big bend area. >> thank you very much. up next, reaction to a federal judge's unprecedented order demanding the government temporarily suspend a
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controversial rule on lung transplants. the move gives a 10-year-old little girl a better chance of getting the lifesaving transplant she needs, but many people are asking whether this is fair or ethical. plus, an nbc news investigation on the government's controversial drone program. a new poll shows overwhelming public support. the yuls of drones to kill suspected terrorists. reports show the cia does not always know who it is targeting. (girl) what does that say? (guy) dive shop. (girl) diving lessons. (guy) we should totally do that. (girl ) yeah, right. (guy) i wannna catch a falcon! (girl) we should do that. (guy) i caught a falcon. (guy) you could eat a bug. let's do that. (guy) you know you're eating a bug. (girl) because of the legs. (guy vo) we got a subaru to take us new places. (girl) yeah, it's a hot spring. (guy) we should do that. (guy vo) it did.
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donor rules. so sarah can be placed on the same list as adults. but for just ten days, at least for now. on tuesday, sebelius rejected the family's request to change the rule saying she could not pick and choose who gets a transplant. earlier this afternoon on the senate floor, republican senator pat toomey of pennsylvania called on sebelius to go a step further in this exception. >> i am not asking secretary sebelius to make an exception for one individual. we're asking for a change in a policy that is flawed and that is currently excluding somebody from being on the list for -- to be an organ donor recipient that ought to be on that list. >> joining me now, david magnus, director for the center of biomedical ethics at stanford university. thanks for your time, sir. >> my pleasure. >> first let me get your reaction to the judge's decision. this is temporary. hearing will be held on june 14th. there are 222 people waiting for lung transplants including six
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children and ten who are younger than the age of sarah in her region. what is your take on the judge's decision here? >> i think having a judge make decisions about allocation decisions is a really terrible idea. people worked really hard to develop a system that's as fair as possible. it requires a great deal of thought to find the right policies for how to implement that. for a judge to make an exception for an individual threatens to undermine what everyone strives to have, which is a fair distribution system. >> her parents say it is not fair that a child her age seems to be put in this category that would not enable them to be able to receive from the pool. and i hate putting it that way because we're talking about life and death, but the pool of organs that could be available in the case of a lung transplant. >> right.
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the original policy in place does make a distinction but it's not capricious. there are concerns about putting adult lungs into children may not be as effective. there are concerns about the expertise of being able to carry out pediatric lung transplants to carry it out in these kinds of case which is require lung reductions and does require a great deal of expertise. as evidence accumulates suggesting that maybe this works, what tends to happen is there is a revisiting of the policy, which seems entirely appropriate. there's a lot of deliberation. then people do often make changes, often changes the way organs get allocated. we just allocated the way -- che way we allocate kidneys. it's a scarce resource. >> her family says under the current policy children younger than 12 are offered pediatric organs that match their size and age and sicker chirp have priority, but they are prevented from receiving adult organs until they have been offered to
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all adults and teenagers on the list. her family says this puts kids at the back of the line. >> it certainly makes it less likely that they're going to get organs from adults, but, again, the reason they've done that is because of concerns that the transplants may not be effective. you're always going to be weighing the decisionmaking how to allocate organs, issues about effectiveness and fairness. if it turns out that using adult organs in younger children isn't as likely to be successful, that would obviously be very problematic. as evidence accumulates, you know, revisits these issue ls about allocation. so you wouldn't want it, for example, transplant an adult organ into a child where there's a very high probability of failure and lungs that could have gone to another patient to where you might have had a much higher probability of success. >> obviously this will be revisited again in that hearing on the 14th. we'll see what happens. meanwhile, an important discussion. thank you, sir. >> absolutely. we turn to an nbc news
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investigation on the controversial issue of u.s. drone strikes overseas. president obama defended the use of drones in an important speech he gave two weeks ago. part of the argument for using drones is their accuracy. but critics say the military doesn't always know who it is killing. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel has te death tails. -- details. >> reporter: look at the tall man in white flanked by bodyguards. experts say it's osama bin laden in afghanistan one year before 9/11. in footage captured by the very first predator drone mission. but the drone isn't armed. a year later, drones are fitted with rockets. pakistan turns into a hunting ground. an estimated 49 drone strikes under president bush, more than 300 under president obama. >> conventional airpower or missiles are far less precise than drones and are likely to cause more civilian casualties. >> reporter: but does the u.s.
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always know who drone strikes are actually killing? nbc news has examined classified documents detailing 114 drone strikes in pakistan in 2010 and 2011. location, death tolls, alleged terrorist affiliations. but they also reveal what u.s. officials don't know, like how many killed. between 7 and 10 in one strike, 20 to 22 in another. u.s. officials do seem certain they almost never kill civilians. in those 114 strikes, only one acknowledged civilian casualty. >> they want to maintain the myth that civilians are not harmed with drone strikes, which is simply implausible. >> reporter: what's more, about a quarter of those killd are described generically as, quote, other militants. it suggests u.s. officials don't always know exactly how many or who they're killing. sometimes targeting suspects based on what's called a signature terrorist profile, where they live, who they meet, who they talk to.
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several former senior officials have told nbc news they had concerns about signature strikes. one told us the u.s. sometimes executes people based on circumstantial evidence. but many counterterrorism officials insist drones are far more precise than conventional attacks and they work with a proven track record against al qaeda. >> it's been a tremendous step forward in military technology. it's combined the capabilities of surveillance strike and long endurance all in one platform. >> reporter: determining from afar who is a terrorist remains less precise than the weapons used to kill them. >> that was richard engel. a senior white house official told nbc news a major justification for many of these drone strikes is protecting u.s. troops in and around afghanistan. president obama has said as u.s. troop number xwos down in
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right now, crews in philadelphia are still searching the rubble of that collapsed building on the off chance someone may still be trapped. a crane was moved to the site to help clear the rest of the debris that had not been searched overnight. six people were killed 14shgs injured when the building under construction collapsed onto a salvation army army next door yesterday morning. earlier today, mayor michael nutter promised a wide-ranging investigation. joining me now, nbc's kristen dahlgren. obviously, anyone could have been walking near the area. this is why it's so difficult for them to say with certainty that they've located everyone. >> reporter: exactly, tamron. still a lot of questions here. the search and rescue is ongoing at this point and you said people could be walking by. they're just not sure how many people may have been in the area, how many people may have been in the store at that time.
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they do know that everybody that was reported missing has now been accounted for, but on the off chance that somebody may have lived alone and nobody's noticed that they're missing yet, they're continuing to search. it's a painstaking process. earlier today, the mayor told us that 75% of the building had been search, leaving a quart they're they still needed to go through. so they've been going through that throughout the day. they're also still concerned about some areas, some walls that seem to be a little bit unstable, so they are taking those down slowly, being very careful that the rescue workers are aren't hurt in another collapse. they're continuing to go through the rubble here. we have that miraculous story about the 61-year-old who was pulled last night from the rubble about 11:30 last night. she was found because she was able to reach her handle up and grab a firefighter's hand. she was rescued, taken out, taken to the hospital. she remains in critical condition. of course six others didn't make it here, tamron. >> all right. kristen, thank you very much for
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that update. and two men wrongly identified by "the new york post" as persons of interest in the boston marathon bombings have filed suit. that tops our look at stories around the "news nation" today. 16-year-old high school student and his 24-year-old friend filed a defamation lawsuit against the paper yesterday. the suit comes nearly two months after they were shown on the paper's cover with the headline cover "bag men" and a story saying the fbi was looking for them. days after refusing a government request, chrysler is recalling more than 400,000 jeeps. the patriot, compass, and wrag ler models have air bag issues and transmission fluid leaks. the recall for suvs much newer than the nearly 3 million suvs federal regulators are pushing the company to recall due to fuel tank issues. the company argues that request is based on incomplete data. up next, new information on paris jackson's alleged suicide attempt.
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welcome back. time now for the "news nation" gut check. in the past hour, white house spokesman josh earnest traveling with president obama to north carolina defended the collection of phone records of millions of verizon customers by the national security agency. earnest said, "the intelligence community is conducting court-authorized intelligence activities pursuant to public statute with the knowledge and overnight of congress." he added that "strict controls are in place." no one will confirm whether the nsa is collecting the phone records of other carriers outside of verizon. do you think the collection of phone records goes beyond verizon? go to facebook.com/newsnation and cast that vote.
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right now we were hoping to get an update on michael jackson's daughter, paris, as it's been widely reported she may have attempted suicide yesterday. the 15-year-old was rushed to a los angeles-area hospital earlier yesterday and a family source tells "e" news the teenager had been suffering from depression and recently revealed that she'd been bullied at school. yesterday, her grandmother, katherine jackson, missed court. there's this ongoing hearing, a civil case against aeg, the concert promoter who was overseeing michael jackson's doctor. and katherine jackson missed court for the first time since that civil trial started. she through a represent ty released a statement not confirming the attempted suicide but saying that paris was a sensitive teenager and going through a difficult time. but as i just mentioned, "e" news and others have reported this may have something to do with bullying. paris is a frequent person on twitter. she tweets a lot.
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and in fact recently tweeted a photograph of herself as a cheerleader. she joined the cheerleading squad at her school. and by some accounts had adjusted as well as to be expected since her father's passing. but meanwhile, we're waiting to get more information. we hoped to bring you that report but we ran into some audio difficulties and can't bring that to you for today. that does it for "news nation." i'm tamron hall. we'll be back here for you tomorrow. audio problems all worked out, hopefully. "the cycle" is up next. i'm the next american success story. working for a company where over seventy-five percent of store management started as hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when
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millions of call logs americans placed overseas. they say they have this authority under the patriot act. as far as we know, this is the broadest domestic surveillance request ever disclosed. the "guardian" says the foreign intelligence surveillance core, or fisa, granted this request in april. the government was not listening in on the calls but collected data daily, including phone numbers and the length of calls. they told us, "the information is a critical tool in to protecting the nation from the terrorist threats as it allows counterterrorism professionals to know whether suspected terrorists have been contact with others who may be engaged in terrorist activities, particularly people located inside the u.s." chuck todd and michael sharer are here with us. chuck, i want to start with you and look at the response we've seen immediately from the administration and several congressional leaders.
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basically, the idea being that congress and the administrations of both parties have built this system. so they're all in it together. is that the general feeling that there's going to be some bipartisanship here because the surveillance state is bipartisan? >> everything about this story is going to be bipartisan. you're going to have a bipartisan group of folks who are going to support this program, defend this program, hopefully at some point they'll explain this program to the public like we're all adult, and then you're going to have a bipartisan group of critics of this program, whether it's rand paul on the right, others on the the left. bipartisanship is going to break out all over the place both in support and outrage. but it is having to do i think what's still not clear and what it's my understanding that the white house is going to try to do is declassify part of this and supposedly at least be