house talking points? that hurts me. >> glenn never let me get to them. i was just trying to ask a question. i thought reporters asked questions. maybe not to glenn. it's equal payday. just saying. he was very testy. >> just wondering if you're going to base dive in spain, you pack your parachute, don't do it upside down. i'm not going to do that. live for a year, die hard. it's way too early. it's "morning joe." stick around for chuck todd who has never done this either. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪ don't bring me down a sneak peek. the 29-year-old former cia worker turned government contractor comes forward to say he's the one would leaked details about the nsa secret information gathering. and now the hunt is on to find him in hong kong. meanwhile, on capitol hill, immigration reform got its 60th

vote as a new republican signs on. but of course this is about getting 70 votes in the senate. and rubio tries to rally more support as president obama looks for a major legislative breakthrough for his second term. it's a story from the mccarthy era you've probably never heard. find out what drove one of mccarthy's colleagues to shoot himself inside his senate office. good morning from washington. i'm chuck todd. it's monday, june 10. this is "daily rundown." we're going to go live to florida for the latest on the jury selection beginning today in the trial of george zimmerman. we're monitoring the condition of former south african president nelson mandela. he went to the hospital for a lung infection. the country's current president jacob zuma has asked for the country to pray for mandela and his family. we'll bring you any updates that

happen this hour. meet 29-year-old tech specialist edward snowden who works for the defense contractor booze allen hamilton. he's revealed himself as the source of one of the most significant leaks in u.s. history. >> i'm no different from anybody else. i don't have special skills. i'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, this is something that's not our place to decide. the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong. >> snowden, who spoke to the "the guardian's" glenn greenwald, said he told his nsa supervisor he needed to be away from work to receive treatment from epilepsy, a condition he learned he suffered from after a series of seizures last year. on may 20th, he boarded a flight

to hong kong. booze allen confirmed snowden had worked for the company for less than three months and called news reports shocking, saying if accurate, this represents a grave violation the code of conduct of our firm. a justice department spokeswoman confirmed the department is in the initial stages of an investigation into the unauthorized disclosure of classified information. the office of the director of national intelligence says it is, quote, reviewing the damage, saying this, any person who has a security clearance knows that he or she has an obligation to protect classifiedings y eied i and abuild ide by the law. director james clapper called the leak an egregious violation. >> for what are reason, has chosen to violate a sacred

trust. the damage these revelations incur are huge. >> can i infer there has been a referral to track down the leak? >> absolutely. nsa has filed a report on this already. >> clapper said the leak had already damaged u.s. intelligence capabilities. >> for me, it is literally, not figuratively, literally gut wrenching to see this happen. because of the huge grave damage it does to our intelligence capabilities. our adversaries, whether nation state adversaries or nefarious groups, benefit from that same transparency, so as we speak, they're going to school and learning how we do this. >> clapper also defended an exchange he had with oregon senator ron wyden back in march which we showed you last week. when asked whether the nsa collects any type of data at all on americans, clapper told him

it did not. >> i have great respect for senator wyden. i thought in retrospect i was asked a when are you going to stop beating your wife kind of question, meaning not answerable necessarily by a simple yes or no so i responded in what i thought was the most truthful or least untruth. manner by saying no. >> the least untruthful manner. see how the senator feels about that. snowden told "the guardian" he is seeking asiylum abroad. new york congressman peter king says in a statement if snowden is the leaker the united states government must prosecute him and begin extradition proceedings. no country should be granting this individual asylum. on sunday morning, before snowden's identity was revealed,

the house intelligence committee chairs agreed the leaker should be prosecuted. >> taking a sensitive program and putting just enough out there to be dangerous is dangerous to us. it's dangerous to our national security. it violates the oath of which that person took. i absolutely think they should be prosecuted. >> you, too, senator fine tynef? >> i do. >> snowden says he knew the risks of going public and he says he's prepared for the consequences. >> i could be, you know, rendered by the cia. i could have people come after me. or any their agents or assets. we've got a cia station up the road in the consulate here in hong kong. i'm sure they're going to be very busy for the next week. that's a fear i'll live under for the rest of my life however long that happens to be. >> snowden's disclosures prompted some calls to hold

hearings on the nsa programs. something intelligence chairwoman dianne feinstein said she would be open to. he did make a distirngs between the two programs that have been disclosed over the past week. >> there's one, the so-called prism program, and it's been very effective. it surveils foreigners, grabs content, photographs, e-mails. the two 15 provisions collecting all the meta data, i'm not convinced it's uniquely valuable intelligence we couldn't generate in other ways. >> kentucky senator rand paul went further saying he wants to bring a challenge of the programs to the supreme court. >> i think if the young people around this country wake up and say, enough's enough, we don't want them looking at our phone records, i think we could reverse this. people by the millions coming out and saying, look, i want to be part of a class action suit

that says, let's hear this at the supreme court level. >> as we begin to learn more about snowden and his motivation, here's one little tidb tidbit. a man by the same man contributed $250 to rand paul in march of last year and another $250 that may. snowden talked to "the guardian" about his politics. saying, quote, a lot of people in '08 voted for obama. i voted for a third party. but i believed in obama's promises. i was going to disclose it but waited because of his election. so what's the bottom line here? while we keep hearing from the white house the assessment of the damage these leaks have done under way, there have been a lot of allegations about the damage the leaks have done on one part of this. it's clear officials are less concerned about the meta data collected from cell phone companies than they are about this prism program. it's important not to conflate

the two reveals. snowden says his intention wasn't to harm national security. and he held on to information he claims would have done so. chose to publish just four slides out of the presentation about the program. in fact, tweeting this, there are things in there that should stay secret. in his conversations with "the post," snowden insisted code names be used, called himself verax or truth teller in latin. whether he's a principal truth teller or violated a sacred trust with his government will be debated in the days ahead. moving on to the issue that will probably be dominating washington by the end of the week, and that's immigration reform. tomorrow afternoon, after months of preparation, a vote to proceed on the debate of the gang of eight immigration bill. the so-called cloture vote in washington-speak which requires a 60-vote margin.

new hampshire senator kelly ayotte said she would vote for the bill. >> this is a thoughtful bipartisan solution to a tough problem. and so that's why i'm going to support it. >> ayotte said she was satisfied with border security and everify language in the bill. it would have been surprising given how she aligned herself with two of the eight's republican players on other issues. here's something to keep in mind, there are now 60 public votes, it appears, for the bill in the senate. that's not even counting likely yes votes. how do we get there? the 54 senate democrat votes plus the four republicans and the gang of eight is 58 plus orrin hatch who voted it out of committee, now kelly ayotte. we know warren hatch said he might vote against it on the floor. of course this has not been about 60, it's about 70. that's not going to be easy. more and more republicans are

arguing the legislation is sflaued and that passing a bill won't solve their problems with latinos. democrats say they won't back a bill that makes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants virtually unattainable. all eyes this week will be on, again, on florida's marco rubio who told univision this weekend, quote, we'll have more than 60 votes but we're going to have to work on it and he said he'll need more stringent border security amendments included in order to build that su board for the bill. democratic leaders rejected what rubio has backed. which will require the apprehension of at least 90% of all people crossing the border illegally. harry reid called it, quote, a pois poisoned pill." quote, under the gang of eight's bill, the border security "trigger" is phony.

dhs is require to write a strategy, not to achieve results." in his weekly address, president obama urged congress to give him a bill to sign by the end of summer. >> we know the opponents of reform are going to do everything they can to prevent that. they'll try to stoke fear and create division. they'll play politics with an issue the vast majority of americans want address. if they succeed, we will lose this chance to finally fix an immigration system that is badly broken. >> by the way, over the weekend, rubio got a little competition in his role. senator rand paul said he'll the conduit. the senate, quote, i'm really trying to make immigration work but they're going to have to come to me. all right. more than a year after the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin, which sparked the national debate over florida's stand your ground law and racial profiling, the trial of george zimmerman

begins today. trayvon martin, who was african-american, was walking back to his father's girlfriend's home in sanford, florida, when encountered volunteer neighborhood watchman george zimmerman. zimmerman called 911. the dispatcher asked zimmerman if he was following the person. he replied yes. causing the dispatcher to say, quote, we don't need you to do that. what happened next is a matter of dispute with zimmerman, claiming he shot and killed martin in self-defense. after questioning, local police let zimmerman go and chose not to press charges. for days, martin's shooting death received no attention. that all changed after martin's parents contacted national civil rights leaders. who accused them of letting a

killer go unpunished. thousands protested. demanding that zimmerman be prosecuted. florida lawmakers had to defend the controversial stand your ground law. the case of course is politically charged. members of the congressional black caucus also became involved. congressman bobby rush took to the house floor wearing hoody similar to what trayvon martin wore the night of his death. even obama weighed in from the rose garden. >> obviously, this is a tragedy. i can only imagine what these parents are going through. and when i think about this boy, i think about my own kids. if i had a son, he'd look like

trayvon. >> 44 days after martin's death, zimmerman was arrested and charge with second degree murder. he's pleaded not guilty. both sides have been in and out of court arguing over what evidence can be admitted. the dchs asked the court to been the prosecution from use ago list of terms and phrases during opening phrases. the prosecution asked the court to allow scientific analysis on the voices heard on 911 calls. george zimmerman has sue ed nbc universal for defamation. joining us now, tell me about the community right now, are they on edge as they're watching this trial begin? >> i think it's fair to say the emotional temperature far cooler than it was in the weeks after martin was killed. they've got an area on the lawn for people would want to protest. and there are very few people

out there so far. when the trial actually starts, maybe that will change, but the mood here is quite calm. trayvon martin's family came to the courthouse just a few moments ago and asked for further calm. he says, we are releaved the trial is starting today with the collection of jury members. we're seeking justice for our son and a fair trial. trayvon's life was taken tragically but we call upon the community to be peaceful. we ask that the community do the same. please pray for trayvon and the family. the defense made what i believe is the third attempt to delay the trial. that motion was denied by the judge. in the next 15 minutes or so, they're going to go down the stairs to meet 100 perspective jurors. they'll bring them back to the courtroom. they'll start the questioning process. and this will go on till they can seat a panel of six with four alter nates it that process

could take two to three weeks. >> i can only imagine. ron mott in sanford for us. we'll hear from the prosecutor who helped write the key portion of the fisa law. and corey booker made it official. a look at the new jersey senate race is also ahead. here's your politics planner for the day. today's equal payday. [ lane ] are you growing old waiting for your wrinkle cream to work? neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair has the fastest retinol formula. to visibly reduce fine lines and wrinkles in just one week. neutrogena®.

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snowden is the man who says he leaked the information about

two of america's massive surveillance programs. he had spent just two months at his post at booz allen but he says he obtained the ability to check in on almost anyone. >> any analyst at any time can target anyone. any selector, anywhere. i sitting at my desk certainly had the authority to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if i had a personal e-mail. >> whether or not snowden really had that much access, his disclosures caused clapper to defend the programs. as chief counsel, he helped draft the legislation in 2002. he joins me now. let me ask about 702. you drafted this program.

explain the -- and this has to do with the collection. there's two separate programs here. we have the telephone number collection. that's one set. this has to do with prism which there seems to be a lot of people in the intelligence committee very upset about this. explain the safeguards you wrote into the law that are supposed to be used to protect people when it comes to collecting this data online. >> the fisa amendment act targets foreigners. so if you're a terrorist or a spy abroad, it authorizes the government to look at your e-mail and listen to your phone calls if the fisa court has approved it and if congress has overseen it. so it allows the government to go forward to the court with a warrant for, say, against al qaeda, for a whole year, and then as additional terrorists are identified, they can be added to that warrant. it's very carefully overseen. it's very carefully scrutinized by the courts. when the senate reauthorized it, the senate wrote that the legislation has protected

privacy and civil liberties of u.s. persons and has been -- >> okay, we can only -- how, how does it do it? >> the court reviews submissions by the attorney general, by the national security agency. it carefully scrutinizes those criteria. >> is anybody making the counterargument? who is in that fisa courtroom? is anybody making the counterargument? >> that was the barrigain we se up. >> which is to say there would not be a counterargument? >> there would be oversight. there may be some people who don't want the government to have these tools. but i think reasonable people will say that government should have these tools if there are checks and balances. if there's oversight by the court. that's exactly what happened in this case. >> who selects this judge? >> the federal judges? >> uh-huh that has this, who

de decides who hears this case? >> the justices appoint the justices of the fisa court. it's a rotation. >> there's no judge shopping, there's nothing like that. >> no, the judges are lifetime tenured senate-counfirmed, nonpartisan judges. no americans are targets under this program. >> i want to know why a guy from booz allen had all this access and was able to leak all this classified information. not a government employee. a government contractor. how -- that part to me is very startling as an american citizen. >> our government relies on contractors. they take the same south. they sign the same nondisclosure agreements. they have the same exact clearance as government officials. he had a responsibility. no one forced him to work at the cia. he voluntarily did it.

the efforts to make him into a hero i think are going to fall flat. he's not a whistle blower. you don't break the law, steal documents and then make a run for the border. there is a whistle blower process. this is the whistle blower process that's on the nsa website. to go to the inspector general if you think there's been criminal activity. there was nothing inappropriate, nothing unlawful. >> that's the debate here. is that there was no part of the law that was violated. i want to -- if you can hold here quickly, i've got somebody who does have to decide about what's a law and what's not. senator angus king, the independent senator who caucuses with the democrats from maine. good morning, sir. i want to ask you just very simply, when did you find out about these programs? you've been a senator for about 5 1/2 months. >> right. >> when were you briefed -- do you feel like you were fully briefed on all of this, on all of these programs when you read

about them this week? >> i wasn't fully briefed. i've been briefed on a number of programs. we've been looking at syria, north korea, satellite intelligence and a lot of different intelligence programs. i knew generally about the programs. and there was a discussion about it. the information was available to all senators. i was with a senator on thursday who basically -- he's a guy who's been skeptical about this. he said, we were skeptical about this. people did have an opportunity to debate this. i knew the outlines. i wasn't shocked by it. it remained me of the inspector

in "casablanca," i'm shocked, shocked to see gambling going on here. >> do you think the oversight provisions are real? >> i do think they're real. i think your other -- your guest talked about having to essentially go and get a warrant and that's the traditional safeguard in our society, going back to the founding of the constitution. there is one piece of it that bothers me. that is the phone data that's gathered and held in the servers of the nsa. i don't necessarily think that data should be in the possession of the government. the same purpose could be solved if it's held by the company. and then when we need a warrant, we go and ask the company, okay, here's what it is. >> was it the issue the company wasn't holding the data? >> i think it would be pretty easy to mandate they hold the data for what are the period of

time is. it's a little unsettled to have this massive data in the government's possession. i would be more comfortable, as long as it can be done technically and expeditiously without compromising the security questions at stake here. i think that might be a better way to do it. those are the questions i asked in the hearing last week and will continue to ask. >> as you've been a member of the intelligence committee for these five plus months, do you think the government classifies too much information? >> i haven't seen any evidence of that. there's a chicken and egg or kind of paradox built into this. you have to have classified information about what it is you're doing so you don't tip off the people you're trying to monitor and catch. there are people out there who want to do us harm. there's absolutely no question of that. we go to the airport and we subject ourselves to our bags being searched.

the question is, how far does it go? what are the safeguards? i think generally the safeguards are there. it's certainly worth discussing and saying can we put in additional safeguards for privacy. that's a dilemma governments have been wrestling with for 1,000 years. >> thanks very much. jeremy bash, longtime confident of mr. panetta, thank you. for more on the nsa surveillance programs, check out our website. we're going to talk a little new jersey senate that's taking shape. first, today's trivia question. when's the last time there were at least four appointed senators se serving at the same time? first person to tweet the correct answer gets our shoutout. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business.

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in today's deep dive, we're taking a closer look at the life and death of u.s. senator lester hunt and the shocking suicide even some political historians don't know about. 1948, hunt made the jump to senator. just two years into his first term, he locked horns with one of the most notorious figures in american politics. fed up with mccarthy's communist witch-hunt, the wyoming senator called him a liar and an

opportunist. mccarthy privately vowed to get even. that summer, hunt's 25-year-old son buddy was arested for soliciting sex from an undercover male police officer. the charges were dropped, then brought back to life after a visit to the cops by hunt's political opponents. the following year, after hunt announced plans to run for re-election, two of mccarthy's senate colleagues told hunt if he didn't withdraw, they would make sure his son's conviction became a major campaign issue. hunt dropped his bid on june 4. less than two weeks later the senator brought a rifle to his senate office and took his own life. he's the only u.s. senator ever to have committed suicide in a senate office. roger mcdaniels spent ten years in the wyoming state legislature. yet he never heard this story. so he decided to tell it himself in the new book, dying for joe mccarthy's sins.

thank you for coming in. i don't think -- i didn't do this justice at all, but this is an amazing story. what's more amazing about it, besides the obvious with mccarthy, is how long it went untold. explain sort of how people in wyoming buried the story so it did not come to life. >> there was sort of this interesting conspiracy between the bad guys and lefter hunt's family, particularly his widow. for obvious reasons, senator styles bridges and herman and others didn't want to tell the story but mrs. hunt for all the right reasons did not want the story to be repeated over time and to have her son and herself and her family confronted with the story so that over time it would continue to have legs. and so she insisted in wyoming

that the story not be told. >> now you spent years researching this. you went to a lot of presidential libraries. among your most important interviews is somebody that's still alive today and that is lester hunt's son, buddy, lester hunt jr., 83 years old, living in wisconsin i believe, right? >> living in chicago. remarkable human being who's had a tremendously fulfilling life. he worked in chicago after his father's death and worked in hispanic and puerto rican communities. but someone who deeply feels that history is important and that the story out to be told. >> and it was covered up in some respects at that time. reporters didn't talk about gay issues. anybody arrested for soliciting gay sex. what was interesting here is his son was interested in laufatte

park. it's another part of joe mark kaer mccarthy, we don't hear about his obsession with going after gay americans. >> had it not been for joe mccarthy, we'd have resolved issues like marriage equality two or three decades ago. >> is that right? >> the problem with joe mccarthy, homosexuals were relatively tolerated and there was a vibrant gay community in washington, d.c. mccarthy and others come along during the early years of the red scare and when mccarthy's not able to make his case against communists, he learns that the state department is employing homosexuals. and he conflates the two issues with a claim that has no basis. the view of the country towards

homosexuals becomes very negative. >> when i saw your book, i was, like, what is this book about? we were both remarking on the fact that 1953, 2013, one senator decides he's got to commit suicide because he has an accusation that his son is gay. that is a remarkable change in 0 years. >> well, it is a remarkable change. though mark twain said history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme. we still are confronted today with those situations in politics where politicians choose to demonize entire groups of people. today it's the muslims. there has been great progress in gay rights. it could have been resolved decades ago.

>> if you try to find some solace in his suicide, his suicide expedited the end of joe mccarthy. is that fair to say? >> i think it did. while mccarthy may have been on the way down, the fact that one of their own had committed suicide because -- >> and the club knew, the u.s. senate -- >> they knew. lyndon johnson's files are replete with information that provide the road map right to senator mccarthy, senator bridges and senator well kerr's doors. >> the book is "dying for mccarthy's sins." did an incredible job. i enjoyed this book very much. congratulations to you and all your hard work. they'll be more about this book on our website. give you all the information to go find it.

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newark mayor corey booker declared a senate bid in naj ov new jersey senator. three other democrats say they will run. they get to run without giving up their seats. sarah oliver wants to run now. ed deadline is 4:00 p.m. today and bring in our pulitzer prize winning susan page and maddie tupler. hello all. >> did it again. did it again. toepler. >> i'm sorry.

one of these days, i'll get it right. >> why don't you have a last name ironically page? >> you're maddie page for the day. >> i'll take it. >> susan, more crowded this race gets the more i am convinced this is even easier now for cory booker. >> measure the drapes. he is going to be the senator. >> mark these words down. >> if the election were a year ago from now and the regular 2014 schedule, cory booker opponent might exploit but no time. he has the name recognition and he has tons of money and hard to imagine i'm not winning. >> it's interesting here. national democrats could use a jolt of their bench. they could use a jolt of a statewide office holder that they think may have national ambitions and that is younger,

new jgeneration. >> the democrats do need more people on that bench. if hillary clinton were to decide not to run it would throw things into a chaos because we are all expecting that to happen. cory booker is poised and ready, as they say. i think it's remarkable, by the way, we are talking about a black candidate as a sure thing. i don't know if i lived long enough to see this day. >> fair point. this is just where we are politically in the state of new jersey. maddie, chris christie is he going to pay any price among conservatives? i would argue how everything about this, the timetable that he set basically benefits one guy and it's cory booker who has been very politically helpful to chris christie over the years. >> we are talking about the appetite for a young democrat. i think on the republican side it is refreshing for a lot of folks to see christie join hands with obama and his amicable relationship i think with other democrats helps him.

the focus for christie everyone is talking about 2016 and i think we are too far out ho say a certain attitude towards him given what we have seen recently are folks on both sides of the issue whether or not his bipartisan helps him or not, i think still too early to tell if that works in 2016. >> i want to change subjects here a little bit. i know official washington and the press corps is obsessed with the nsa story but i'm of the mindset it won't have the political legs out in the country that everything else is that immigration by the end of the week will be the hotter political tauopic by the end of the week. >> you say people will pay attention to what is happening and we say in america we don't care because they never get anything done. i think immigration has something to move something down the road here. i think we are following what happens in the senate that will be informative as to whether or not this has legs over the coming months. >> the nsa story is important and we will have a debated about

how much americans should know about the way these programs work. >> but americans themselves may not be as interested in having it. >> when you talk about what resonates with voters the economy first of all, but immigration well and it's a great story over the next couple of months because we are going to have a battle in the senate. not guaranteed to get to the 70 they want and bigger battle in the house getting a comprehensive bill that won't mesh up what the senate want to do. >> clarence, being from chicago and doing what you have to do for "the tribune," can president obama when you heard him speak about the nsa leaks, did you think he reconciled with where candidate obama was on this issue or not? >> you can look at a whole slew of issues. steven carter from yale wrote a whole book a few years ago about president obama's national security policy is bush's policy. here once again we see that happening. i think you're right, though. the nsa story the more people

realize obama emphasize your phones are not being tapped. once they begin the difference between data and eavesdropping and also think about what else do you want to avoid another 9/11, that kind of thing? this is an ongoing debate and i think people will be satisfied. >> this is a who watches the watchers, right? i'm sort of, wait a minute i'm upset about the fact some government contractor has access to this information and can leak it. who goes to the fisa court to make the counterargument. there are little things you learn more and more. you trust government. >> what do they care that the government is watching them? >> shameless plug? >> almost to the day -- arrived in washington to work as the overnight reporter for the associate press and still writing and now a column for "the dallas morning news." >> when we run out of trivia

questions, we go to suture's husband. >> i want to say the talk about the nsa controversy read all of this. oral well talked about this being forced on big brother being forced on you but huxly talked about inviting it and happened in our society. >> maddie. >> ahead of the game but i want to this opportunity to wish my dad a happy father's day coming up. >> good for you. that is it for "the daily rundown." up next is chris jansing. see you tomorrow. later on this afternoon, a chance of significant airport delays at many locations that could be hit by thunderstorms in the eastern half of the country. even chicago, new york, baltimore, boston all the way down through the southeast. everyone has a chance of this

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go to citi.com/simplicity to apply. good morning. i'm chris jansing. we now know the identity of the person who leaked all of those top secret documents about surveillance. the question is what is going to happen to him? and what does all of this mean for future surveillance of you? 29-year-old edward snowden revealed himself to the guardian

newspaper. he is a government contractor and his background is fascinating and surprising. this is a man with a very high level security clearance working for boos allen hamilton but he only had a ged. he said each washed out of training in the military. even a low level employee who only worked for that defense contractor for three months, he was living in hawaii, making, he says, around $200,000 a year, and he was able to copy classified documents and get them out of the office and turn them only to roverts. he says he did it because the public needs to know what is going on. now he is in hong kong where he hopes their tradition of protecting free speech would keep him safe. >> i could be rendered by the cia or people come after me or their third-party partners. you can't come forward against the world's most