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newspaper. he is a government contractor and his background is fascinating and surprising. this is a man with a very high level security clearance working for boos allen hamilton but he only had a ged. he said each washed out of training in the military. even a low level employee who only worked for that defense contractor for three months, he was living in hawaii, making, he says, around $200,000 a year, and he was able to copy classified documents and get them out of the office and turn them only to roverts. he says he did it because the public needs to know what is going on. now he is in hong kong where he hopes their tradition of protecting free speech would keep him safe. >> i could be rendered by the cia or people come after me or their third-party partners. you can't come forward against the world's most powerful
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intelligence agencies and be completely free from risk. if they want to get you, they will get new time. >> congressman peter king, a top republican on the intelligence committee, is calling for snowden to be extradited to the united states. lawmakers will be briefed on this today and tomorrow. >> if anyone were to violent the law by releasing classified information outside the legal avenues, certainly that individual should be prosecuted at the full extent of the law. >> before the leaker was revealed, andrea mitchell sat down with the director of national intelligence, james clapper. >> this is someone, for whatever reason, has violated a sacred trust for this company. damage that these revelations incur are huge. >> i want to bring in "the new york times" national security correspondent mark ma setty who has been writing this.
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a kiki question we hear peter king talk about prosecution is this guy a criminal? or is he a whistle-blower? >> it depends on who you'll talk to. certainly there are a lot of people in washington in the obama administration and congress who will say he's a criminal and that he needs to be prosecuted to the fullest strength of the law. and many people in the country see him as a hero. that is someone who blew the whistle on the sort of excesses of the surveillance state. so he needs to be held up as a whistle-blower. this is the difficulty that -- i think to some extent the obama administration will face because there will be these dueling narratives. already the obama administration is facing pressure for its crackdown on press leaks but this is also really an extraordinary situation where someone did disclose some very highly classified information
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and he seems to be somewhat resigned to what could happen to him. >> he seems to be okay. i don't know if okay is the right word but he seems to recognize he could spend a good bit of his life in jail and he seems to be willing to accept that. his story is really fascinating. he had worked at the cia and then works for this contractor for the nsa. again, this is a guy who has a ged. here is what he said about the powers he had. >> anybody in the positions of access with the tape, technical capabilities that i had could, you know, suck out secrets, pass them on the open market to russia. they always have an open door, as we do. i had access to, you know, the full rosters of everyone working at the nsa, the entire intelligence community. and undercover assets all around the world at the locations of every station. we have what their missions are and so forth. if i had just wanted to harm the
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united states, you could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. but that's not my intention. >> how unusual is it for someone like him? do we know, first of all, if it's true how much access he has? we see he had quite a bit of access given what he was able to turn over to reporters but how does someone at that level have that kind of access and he is not even d.o.d.? >> he clearly had a very high clearance. as we saw with the bradley manning case in wikileaks on someone who has clearance can access high level information. there has been this push in recent years to spread information across the intelligence world and keep it out of what they call stove pipes where only the nsa can only get nsa information and cia can only get kraechcia informat. taking him at his word he apparently did have some incredibly access to very high level of information and as he
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said, chose to only disclose what he saw are abuses of the system. there are all sorts of incredibly interesting aspects of this story and one being the fact he worked for boos allen which is a contractor made millions of dollars the last decade to consider the contractor to high boos allen to protect the security of classified networks ich it's interesting to see where the conversation goes after this. i was surprised to see nearly 5 million people have a security clearance and of those, almost 500,000 contractors hold top secret clearances. does that mean he they can get access to almost anything as he apparently could? >> sure. i mean, the clearance -- having a clearance is a commodity in many ways. having a clearance makes you very valuable to a defense contractor or an intelligence contract. and so because these contractors get hired by the nsa and cia and
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other intelligence agencies they look for people with clearances. >> they hire somebody who has a clearance because that is to their benefit and more useful to them. i understand it, they don't have to do the extensive kind of background check because the government has already done it? >> right. . once you have a clearance you have it for a certain period of time and it's renewed over time. yeah, it's assumed you can travel with it. you can take it from company to company. that makes you very marketable as an employee if you have a clearance. higher level clearance you have, the more marketable you are. clearly mr. snowden had a high clearance and made him available to boos allen and then ultimately to the nsa. >> mark, thank you. i want to bring in bill. the majority leader cantor is briefed and members of congress are briefed today and tomorrow. what questions do you have? >> i've got a lot of questions.
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first of all, what exactly is that clearance process that is allowing this many people to have that type of clearance. what is exactly the role with the contractors and how widespread that is. and then frankly what else aren't they elg us? i want to make sure that we have got a full complete picture of what is going on. >> what do you think about edward snowden? he says americans need to know that all of this is out there. >> i'm not ready to declare him either a hero or a tyrant here. i do believe that he had other avenues he could have gone down rather than disclosing this to the press. >> such as? >> all you have to do is turn on any of the myriad of cable programs and you'll see congressmen and women and senators who are questioning these things and could have easily gone and approached one of those offices and had a conversation that way as opposed
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to going and exposing this to reporters. >> you voted yes for the patriot act. >> the reauthor saigs. >>ization. >> i'm not ready to declare that a mistake but i have questions as to what weren't we told at the time. what is the complete picture. >> doesn't seem to be any implications that laws were broken here except by him not by the collection of this data. >> i think absence of information when we are going into some of these votes. i got classified briefings before and some of these not on these particular issues. when the president is going out saying congress was fully briefed. we were not briefed about these types of specific issues on what is happening and that is what the intel committee is about and for. >> what was missing? what were you briefed on?
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>> generalities and what is going on. i had no idea they were doing a drag net type of program where we were going in and scooping up everybody's phone call records and those kinds of things. certainly this new revelation about going in and gathering everybody's, you know, facebook and google and everything else that is going on. that was news to me and i think a lot of my colleagues as well as i'm talking to them. >> snowden told the reporters at "the washington post" they aren't bad guys but label under a false premises of a surveillance program produces information of value it legitimatized it. we are stopping terror attacks, let's say, the guy who was going to take the backpacks on to the subways and blow up the subways, do the ends justify the means if we can say, yes, it's a huge dragnet but we are stopping attacks, is that okay? >> no. i mean, because we could stop attacks if we had cameras in
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everybody's home and at every corner and in every car and we are listening in on everything. >> where do you draw the line? >> i think that -- there isn't a bright line on this and it gets very gray and that is what exactly what we need to do is figure that out. for me personally i'm not needing to be convincing that this was the wrong thing. i'm needing to be convinced that this is the right thing to be doing and i haven't been convinced yet. >> congressman bill hiuizengahu good of you to come in. >> thank you. >> let's bring in lynn sweet and manu raji. good morning. >> good morning. >> manu the final debate in the senate is this week. a crucial republican vote is now on board. kelly ayotte said she would vote for this. let me play this for what she said yesterday. >> i've looked at this very carefully. our immigration system is completely broken. we have 11 million people living
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in this country illegally in the shadows and a legal immigration system that isn't meeting our needs to grow our economy. i looked at this careful. this is a thoughtful bipartisan solution to a tough problem and so that's why i'm going to support it. >> so what is the count? is that it, do they have the votes to pass this? >> they have the votes to begin debate on the bill which we will see tomorrow. whether they actually get 60 votes to end a debate is another question. i think the chances are very good that they do get 60 votes to end debate and move to a final vote but for the end of the month potentially. but the question will be how far do democrats go to ratchet up that vote count? schumer wants 70 votes. what does that mean to the changes the left may have to accept to get to that point? those are the major questions facing this debate, going forward because the democrats support this bill want a high
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vote count that would presumably pressure the house into taking up something that resembles the senate's bill. >> talking points that supporters of the legislation have been to use that express would have to be learned and pay taxes and emphasize 100% board understaleance and tag critics as defenders of a status quo. lynn, what is the point they need to win folks of over? >> in the senate i figure 51 democrats will be for us and eight republicans. that brings 55. ayotte is one. 70 is nice. you need 60. that is the first hurdle i figure four votes short, so they are just targeting very to make sure they get the 60 votes done and there are enough republicans out there who they could target
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including senator mark kirk of illinois who are their maybe votes. i think in the big view 70 is nice in the senate. but they first have to get to 60 and then deal with what we will get to in a moment the sult situation in the house. >> john boehner is quietly trying to outline his strategy in all of is and politico, we know it's challenge willing in the house. how does he navigate these very rocky waurl yy waters? >> he thinks if they do a piecemeal approach and passing for provisions that are popular among both sides getting something to the floor could put pressure on the senate to take up things in a bite-sized manner. as we see, the house -- sorry. house bipartisan group that is trying to draft a compromise similar to the senate's plan has really flounederdered. the dynamics in the house are complicated no matter what
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happens in the senate the house is anybody's guess how this issue plays out. >> what is your guess, lynn? what is going to happen? >> actually, i'm moving the needle to grim prognosis in the house because they are letting some exstrainious issues get there and a lot more people to hurt than the senate. so something will happen. i'll predict it might be bite-sized chunks instead of a comprehensive bill but everybody gets a second bite at the apple as long as they pass something when the two meet. >> thanks to both of you. the taliban has claimed responsibility for brazen attack on afghanistan agency main airport in kabul. a spokesman said they were target the americans when they launched the siege on the military side of the airport. seven insurgents were killed by police or in suicide missions. officials say they used rocket propelled grenades and assault
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today begins a critical week in a florida courtroom. jury selection under way in a florida case. former neighborhood watch volunteer george zimmerman is accused in the fatal shooting of trayvon martin. zimmerman says he fired the shot in self-defense. we heard from the martin family as they headed into the courtroom just a little over an hour ago. >> we are relieved that the start of the trial is here with the jury selection as we seek justice for our son trayvon and we also seek a fair and impartial trial. >> also this week, the judge could ruled about the testimony
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of an ued of an 911 call. i want to bring in former federal prosecutor, kendall coffey. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about the neighbor's 911 call again that captured screams and sounds of a gunshot. let me just play it. at issue as we have talked about is whose voice it is screaming and both sides disagree. they will see state audio experts see if it's martin or ruled out zimmerman's can be brought in. what do you think is crucial in the judge's decision and how important is this one piece of evidence? the judge has to decide not whether she agrees with the
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prosecution's evidence but whether they have an, in effect, a sufficient reliable basic of scientific methodsology to get there. the fact the defense experts are vigorously saying it's junk science and no basis to believe what the prosecution witness said it's not by itself a basis to keep it out. most of the times in these cases the judge will allow the evidence and the defense experts to rebut as strongly as they want. how critical is this? it's vilth for the prosecution because the prosecution doesn't have an overwhelming case and if they can convince the jury that this was the voice of trayvon martin screaming and begging for help in the final moments of his life, then that is going to go a long way to convincing the jury that george zimmerman killed him rather than self-defense killed him as either manslaughter or second-degree murder. >> as we said, jury selection begins today.
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unlike much of all the country six jurors in this case. this is a second-degree murder trial. pool of 500 people. how do they whittle that down, kennels? >> they are going to be all kinds of factors that can eliminate people from jury service. sometimes just ranging from other personal plans, commitments or hardships that individual jurors have. the big issue is pretrial publicity and everyone is going to have heard something about the case. the issue isn't whether or not they follow the news but simply whether they still have an open mind and that is going to be a real challenge for the judge and the lawyers to work thu. other big questions going to be attitudes about gun ownership. obviously defense would love to have a jury filled with gun owners. and we all have to recognize could very well be an issue of the racial composition of the jury. in the final analysis, like it or not, there has been racial divide in terms of attitude and feelings about this case.
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>> what kind of questions would you expect to be asked by both sides? i think one of the focus is going to be just to give you an example, have you ever been a victim of crime before? the defense would love to have a jury with crime victims. are you somebody that believes that people should have guns and carry guns around? from a prosecution standpoint, people that are uncomfortable with the idea of folks walking around with guns each legally so are people more likely to be a good prosecution, a good prosecution juror. and so a lot of what is going to happen is exposure to pretrial publicity. will people go into that without attitudes? it will be interesting to see. >> it will be. kendall coffey, thank you so much. >> thank you. we should mention george zimmerman has sued nbc universal for defamation. the company has strongly denied
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victims prepare to head back to washington to lobby for gun control this week, investigators in california want to know why a 23-year-old went on a shooting ram pain some santa monica killing five people. he killed his brother and father at home before going on a shooting spree and opening up on a bus and car. heading to the campus and killing three others including 68-year-old carlos franco and his daughter marzela inspect he is scene here where he was later shot and killed in the library. law enforcement sell that he is suffering mental problems. they are interviewing the mother to any insight she might have as to why this happened. will this tragedy do anything to
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help resurrect gun control legislation or has the public grown desensitized to mass events of mallass. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> five people dead. plus the shooter. there has been actually very little reaction to this tragedy by lawmakers. have we gotten to the point you have to kill a huge number of people or you have to kill children to get any attention? >> you know, it's really sad that there is no outrage over this. and very disappointing that folks in congress who really say that they want to do something about preventing gun violence aren't marching up and down and screaming that something has to be done. look. we have 33 people per day on verg w average who are killed by gun violence. since newtown, 5,000 people have died and in congress we were trying to get a bill through that was blocked because of
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background checks but the senate for american progress put out some recommendations today that showed that the president can still do something and still do more at the very least enforce the laws that we have on books to hopefully, be able to keep incidents like this from happening. >> obviously the families from newtown are hoping for that in washington. this guy had 1,300 rounds of ammunition. a lot of republican lawmakers i talk to after newtown were not willing to restrict ammo or guns but they did repeatedly tell me about the need to address mental health issues. in fact, i want to play what republican congress woman diane black said about gun reform on this show back in february. >> none of these things that we are talking about right now that are the biggest in the message is really going to help what happened in newtown. so i'm disappointed that we are doing a knee-jerk reaction and only talking about it from one end. i think we have to talk about mental illness, about the
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breakdown of the family. >> here we are six months after newtown. if there are people, many republicans, who don't want to infringe on second amendment rights and don't want restrictions on guns and ammo where is the law on mental health issues? >> let me back up a moment. let me echo what you and my democratic friend on the other side said a few moments ago. there should be outrage about this and not only just for members of congress but also from the american people also from the white house and the real issue is unfortunately when you take a look at the previous incidents whether it's newtown, whether it's virginia tech, whether it's columbine, down the list, mental health has been the linchpin, if you will, that we don't talk about. so what members of congress and the president as well as community leaders need to do is roll up their sleeves and figure out what needs to be done in that critical area. when you take a look at gun control and the legislation on the books if we were to quite
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frankly, enforce all of the laws on the books these issues still would happen. so we have to take a look at mental a little bit. >> there are people pushing. the vice president is going to connecticut. nothing on background checks or mental illness. senator manchin has been reaching out to senators to convince them to support of altered measure in the coming months. aisha has to happen? >> i think the president has to use all of the latitude he can and the pawer he can to crack down on gun violence. unfortunately, we have a congress like you just mentioned and we have republicans who want to sit on their hands and do nothing and think has is going to resolve the issue or perhaps they are not as upset as the rest of us and traumatized by all of the things that are happening. things can be done specifically we talked about mental health. right now, there are states who are not being penalized and they should be for not putting mental
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health data and information into the background check system so that is one concrete thing that the president can enforce and make sure happens with a law that is already on the books. >> i'm sure you saw, robert, a heart-wrenching article in the "the washington post" this weekend about the families of newtown. one focus on the barden family who lost 7-year-old daniel and the reaction of daniel's dad after legislation did not pass the senate a few months ago. this is what "the pof" article says. what does all of this add up to now? he had asked a white house employee late that day when the speeches ended. because if it had amounted to nothing at all what was the logic, the order, the meaning of their broken lives? what do those members of congress say to those families today or late in the week, robert, when they show up in washington and five more people are dead in california? >> i don't know the answer to that question, chris. i wouldn't even presume to try
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to put my shoes and walk in those foot steps of those family members that lost a loved one to gun violence. i can't imagine. the only thing i can think that a member of congress, but also, quite frankly, the president needs to say is, look. we have not forgotten about this. this is something very still high on our priority list. we are going to respect second amendment rights and also have a comprehensive conversation about gun control that includes mental health and background checks and includes a holistic conversation about this. i think that is the missinging link here and i feel deja vu all over again. we keep talking about it but nothing we do about it. >> thank you both. we will continue to following this story. >> thank you. >> thank you. this morning, growing concern for the health of nelson mandela. family members have been coming to visit him at the hospital where he is being treated for a recurrent lung infection. nbc's kier simmons is live.
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>> family member coming to see him and children and grandchildren over the weekend. we have seen family cars going into the hospital where we believe he is being treated. we have heard some reports suggesting that winnie mandela, his former wife and controversial leader, fellow leader of apartheid struggle went to see him in the hospital today. his present wife has been with him throughout the weekend. so many people going to see him. one report suggesting that there is some restriction on who can visit him to give him the spice space to recover. he does have a lot of medical equipment in his home but doctors felt it wasn't enough and rushed him to the hospital
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early mornings of saturday morning and releasing the statement he is serious. he has been in the hospital four times since december and the first time doctored described him as serious and this morning update from the south african president office saying his condition is the same and he is stable and able to breathe independently. the president of south africa calling on people to pray possess nelsfor nelson mandela and his family. >> thank you, keir. britain's prince phillip is in the hospital. he is recovering from a abdominal surgery performed on friday. britain marked the birthday with two gun salutes this morning. prince philip grandson principles harry showing off his air skills at an air show this weekend. check it out.
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mini. krcke critics saying apple has lost its way. what is going on out there? >> it's a long time. if you follow the smarkt it's terrible for apple and if you pay attention to google they are showing off self-driving cars and so it makes apple look a little slow to the game. >> you mention the stock market apple shares down more than 35% since last september. iphone sales second to samsung. so what are we going to see from the company today that might sort of answer some of those skeptics? >> we don't expect to see anything huge. we are not going to see the things that were supposed to be the great new things. we are not going to see a tv, some kind of new apple device that focuses around tv or not see any wearable computing like an apple watch. these are the things that potentially could show there is a ton of innovation back. the biggest thing you'll see or changes as you mention to the
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design which could be nice but probably not -- >> to both the ipad and iphone? what they are calling a simplified look? >> this conference is for developers. it's their worldwide developers conference and it's to show them the new operating system which is the system that runs the ipad and the i phones and to give developers an understanding of how it works and then training so they can start building all of their apps. so, yeah, a new look under johnny ive who is their designer and supposed to be much more simplified and less looking like relate so -- line analog comparison. instead of a notepad you might see something digitally oriented. but whether that is enough to fire apple up once again is probably is not. the biggest thing we are going to see is music and that is been -- >> they are calling this i radio? this new streaming service? >> unclear what they are going
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to call it. whatever it's called, it's basically a version of pandora with a lot of different features from what i've been told from music industry sources, features that pandora doesn't offer. most importantly, they are going to try to go global. whether they lawson global today we don't know. apple is going to bake this into the iphone and it's free, which is something they haven't done in the past to have this kind of service, but if it's a really great radio experience that is very intelligent and based on your -- all you've done with itunes over the years and serves up great stations for you and eventually works in your car and elsewhere that could be quite big for apple but it will take some time to play out. >> i'm very interested in that. we will see what happens. paul sloan, good to see you. thanks. >> thank you. today's tweet of the day comes from software developer jamey wright.
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congress heading back to d.c. and demanding answers about the nation's sweeping surveillance programs which have direct ties to noiv9/11 and theh administration. richard, i guess one part of the controversy goes back to the carter years? >> it does. the fisa courts are the center of today's krover and they were created after the watergate scandal and government overreach concerns. 1978 congress passing the foreign intelligence surveillance act or fisa to regulate government monitoring of suspected spies. it also created a secret court to issue warrants allowing electronic surveillance. two decades later, 9/11, 2001, congress passes the patriot act. >> this new law that i sign today will allow surveillance of all communications used by
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terrorists, including e-mails, the internet, and cell phones. >> now a year after in 2002, the department, defense department announces the total information awareness plan. it collects huge data troves. 2007, protect america act and prism. according to power point slide obtained by "the washington post" prism begins. the government can contain e-mail and internet chats including microsoft and verizon. the protect america act reaffirmed fisa court powers. 2013 fisa court allows access to verizon call access. 35 years after created it becomes under excrete knee by
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"the guardian" reporting. marc klein said equipment in a secret room capturing web e-main and web surfing. five other reports from violations from news organizations like "the new york times" and "usa today" affecting as many as millions. this in the years 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2012 and that is the history of a short time line was we look at when we talk about u.s. mass surveillance. >> a lot of questions asked by congress the next couple of days after they are briefed on these major spangs. that wraps up this hour of "jansing and co." i'm chris advancing. thomas roberts is up next. hey. it is?? ah come on, i know you can hear me. mike mike mike mike mike... what day is it mike? ha ha ha ha ha ha! leslie, guess what today is? it's hump day.
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whether these programs or policies are right or wrong. >> so is that man a traitor or a patriot? hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. the man behind one of the biggest bombshells in recent history ends the mystery and shows his face and explains his motivatives. "the guardian" reveal iing edwa snowden's identity. currently hiding in hong kong. >> i could be reynoldsed by the cia. i could have people coming after me or any of their third-party partners. we have a cia up the road in consulate in hong kong and i'm sure they are going to be very busy the next week. >> a petition on the white house website calling for a presidential pardon for snowden. 11,000 signatures and climbing. here is the reporter who helped him come forward earlier today on "morning joe." >> what we disclosed was of great

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