florida's controversial self-defense law. right now jury selection is underway. george zimmerman was in the room as the first of the 500 potential jurors filed into the sanford, florida, courthouse. george zimmerman had pled not guilty to the murder of trayvon martin, claiming he shot the teenager in self-defense after martin attacked him. martin was unarmed. the shooting struck a major social media campaign which led to protests in cities around the country. it also ultimately led to the resignation of the sanford police chief. george zimmerman has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in online donations for his legal defense fund. this morning at the courthouse, trayvon martin's family called for calm. >> we also seek a fair and impartial trial. we ask that the community continue to stay peaceful as we place our faith in the justice system. we ask that the community do the same. >> and a short time later, george zimmerman's brother

robert also made a public declaration from the courthouse. >> the state doesn't have the case. mr. o'mara has gone on record saying they know they have a very weak case. i believe it's an improper charge altogether. seeing as that's not likely to happen now, i'm confident they won't meet their burden. >> nbc's kerry sanders is in sanford. so much of this case played out publicly. right now it really is about the selection of these jurors. >> reporter: and many say that is the most critical part of winning or losing a case. that's why this will be a particularly slow process. as you noted, the prospective jurors have been summoned. 100 of the first 500 came to the courthouse today. they were taken into a room where like all jurors, prospective jurors, they're played a video and told about their civic responsibility and why we have a jury system in this country and what participating in it means. then they were each given

questionnaire. in those questionnaires, they're filling out information. biographical data, questions that could be how much do you know about this case. those questionnaires were then brought together and brought to the attorneys. the prosecutor and the defense have looked through those. they've sorted them out. we're moving towards the process where each individual in that group of 100 will be brought into the courtroom, and they will be asked questions by the defense attorney and by the prosecuting attorney. in the selection of this jury -- and i should note, it's a six-member jury plus alternates. a lot of people will think it will be 12. in florida in a second-degree murder case, it's a six-member jury. the attorneys will have the option to say to the judge, i would like to exclude this person for cause, meaning that this person has said something that suggests they're biased and could not sit in fairness on

this jury. the attorneys also have pre-emptory challenges where they could say, i want this person out, and they don't have to give a reason. they just want that person out. they have a limited number of those challenges. the plan is they will sort through, bring up 21 people, begin to ask those questions, and then bring in another 21 and then another 21 and go until they have the six jurors that both side agree with and the alternates. it hasn't been announced by the court just yet how many alternates there will be. so we'll have to find out as the day progresses on that. but that's an idea of what's taking place now. this will continue until they actually get a jury. as i mentioned, both sides say maybe two weeks, maybe three weeks before they seat a jury to begin presenting the case and the defense. >> okay. thank you very much, kerry. joining me now, criminal defense urress, kendall coffee, and "washington post"

opinion writer johnathan capeheart. we should mention, george zimmerman has sued nbc universal and they have strongly denied his allegation. john, first you. it's interesting, the defense put in a motion to continue the trial, their third attempt in a sense to delay the proceeding. what do you make of this last-ditch attempt? >> it's not going to happen. i think it's really just to protect the record. there has been issues they received discovery late and didn't have an opportunity to prepare adequately. it has been denied. it's just a record preparation matter to protect themselves. it clearly will not be granted. >> kendall, the defense also raised concernings on the turning over of discovery by the state and whether or not it was done in a timely manner. what's behind that? >> well, the defense has raised the issue, but what the judge's concern is at this point is whether the prosecution handled it right or wrong. defense, do you have the

information you need to have a fundamentally fair trial? if you do, we want to keep this thing on track, and we can deal with any allegations more specifically of prosecutorial misconduct after the trial. meanwhile, the day has come. let's go to trial. >> the day has come, but we're still seeing a lot of that battle for public opinion. you have trayvon martin's parents asking for calm, george zimmerm zimmerman's brother as well saying his family has had threats. they're concerned for him in receiving a fair trial as they put it. but the jurors are there. they are filling out these questionnaires. how do you find a jury -- and we ask this all the time with high-profile cases, that don't have strong opinions, especially in a tight-knit community. >> you're not going to find jurors that are completely unaware of this case. most of them have probably followed it closely. the key thing is to find jurors that have an open mind and will

consider and say they will consider just the evidence as part of the trial. there will be time and time again high-profile cases where jurors will say, yes, i've read that, yes, i watched this on television. the judge asked, can you be fair and impartial solely on the evidence before you? they say yes, they may be allowed to serve. the state and defense receives copies of the questionnaire. the defense asked for more time toegorize them. the judge denied that. what do you believe are some of the questions for the defense? are they asking about race? do they want to make sure the questionnaire covers this adequately? for example, we know that race plays a big part of it as much as the stand your ground law does. >> this is a very important part of the trial. these questionnaires, it's important for the defendant to get every question out, the prosecution to get every question out. what they're really looking for is attitudes.

just because a person can be fair doesn't mean you believe them. racial attitudes they have, stereotypical notions they may have about african-american teenagers. who they socialize with. do they have african-american friends? do they have people of different ethnic groups? are they supervised and have they had to make decisions before about who gets a job? have they had african-american bosses? all these things figure in. despite what the person says, can they really be fair? that's a function of how you evaluate the answers to the questions. >> when it comes to race, the sensitivity of how you would ask this question, nobody can be eliminated by race, certainly you may have people who have prejudices or certain believes that are not racist who could potentially still serve on the jury. >> absolutely. this is the part that each side will have to explore.

the prosecution has to be concerned about people who have these racial stereotypic notions about black teenagers. the defense wants to be concerned about people who think he was a vigilante and operating on his own. that's why written questionna e questionnaires are great. then the lawyers with look at those and follow up with questions. sometimes you can eliminate these people just between agreement and with the court without having to ask these very explosive questions. >> johnathan t l, let me bring in. we showed video of the heavy security at that courthouse. the emotion involved in this is tremendous. you've written about it. you've been attacked by the attorneys representing george zimmerman. you have people who have that pit in their stomach, the worry that the outcome of this trial could set off a fire storm, quite honestly. folks are worried about that. >> yeah, and so are the martin family. from the very beginning of this, they have said that all that they wanted in the beginning was an arrest of george zimmerman.

after that, a trial. a trial by a jury. and that they would live by the jury's decision. you know, remember, it took 44 days for george zimmerman to be arrested. in that time, there was a huge national outcry over how is it possible that an unarmed teenager could be killed by someone, and the person who admitted to doing it wasn't even charged with anything, especially under the murky circumstances. so even though the national outrage has died down, the sort of red-hot passions that this case has embroiled, for lack of a better word, are still there. you can see -- i see it on my twitter feed every time i write about this. the level of vitriol but also passion, you know, is very, very real. i think the concern about what ñ

case is right and true, but i think having the martin family call for calm from the very beginning and then again today at the start of jury selection is incredibly important. >> well, it is. and you talk about the national outrage, it's died down. we have been in this standstill or stand by, if you will. as the attorneys both pointed out, this is the real deal. this is when it starts. we will hear more, but you have others who have tried to turn this into a political story, for example, johnathan. we know that the president gave his heartfelt words that if he had a son, he would look like trayvon. we also know that george zimmerman went on fox news a lot because he felt that he had a sympathetic ear from conservatives. we've seen this go from the courthouse to the neighborhoods to the barbershops where people talk about these things all the way to washington, d.c. >> right. remember, the president, when he talked about the case, he was answering a specific question.

it wasn't as if he went out there and said, hey, let me talk about this case. but what we've seen -- and i'm glad you said this is the real deal. what's happening today is the real deal. what's happened up until this point has just been basically a pr tug of war between the martin family and the zimmerman family in trying to portray trayvon martin and george zimmerman in ways that are beneficial to each side. you know, the upside of all this is, you know, florida's laws, the stand your ground law is an insane law, but there are other laws in florida that have actually made it possible for all of us to read the police reports, hear the 911 tapes, read autopsy reports, and see all the evidence that both the prosecution and the defense have. so that way, i think, that's why we're not going to be able to -- the idea that they're going to have an impartial jury is sort of laughable. but i think it was kendall who

said this, that you want a jury that has an open mind because we all know things right now that might not even be3&.2r >> and quickly, kendall and john, your legal opinions. what should we look for in the next, i guess, 24, 48 hours, even a week it could take to seat this jury? >> it's going to be extraordinarily difficult. there's going to be a lot of focus on pretrial publicity, the issue of whether or not they truly have open minds. i think the defense will look for jurors that like their guns, that maybe have been crime victi victims. they're going to have a preference for white jurors. the prosecution is going to look for individuals who don't like the idea of private citizens walking around with guns and willing to use them. >> john? >> i think that's actually true. i think from a prosecution point of view, they have to be very

mindful of the racial questions, the racial stereotyping issues. the defense themselves obviously looking for fox-news type people who follow -- so i would be concerned in the questionnaires, really, what kind of news programs do you listen to? msnbc, fox, various programs. get a real sense of what people's political alliances are. at the end of the day, can you believe them? can you trust them when they tell you they can be true? >> john burress, thank you. great pleasure having you on this hour. >> thanks. still ahead, the justice department now searching for the former cia contractor who admits he leaked information about the government's surveillance program. >> i'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, this is something that's not our place to decide. public needs to decide whether these programs or policies are right or wrong. >> we'll have more on edward snowden's background, including his first job with the nsa and

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after revealing himself as the source of one of the biggest intelligence leaks in u.s. history, 29-year-old edward snowden is now a man you might say on the run, hiding in hong kong. the ex-cia worker turned national security agency contractor told britain's

"guardi "guardian" newspaper he's staying at a hotel in hong kong and hopes to win asylum in iceland. the justice department could seek to extradite him. there's an exception for political crimes which snowden's act could fall under. >> i'm no different from anybody else. i don't have special skills. i'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, this is something that's not our place to decide. the public needs to decide whether these programs or policies are right or wrong. >> and here's what we know about edward snowden. he's never finished high school, but he did obtain a ged. he was discharged from the army after breaking both legs in a training incident. he started working as a security guard for the nsa but got hired by the cia befo. before fleeing to hong kong, he lived in hawaii earning a salary

of roughly $200,000 a year. meantime, we just got the first reaction from the white house with the revelation of snowden as the leaker. >> there is, obviously, an investigation underway into this matter. for that reason, i'm not going to be able to discuss specifically this individual or this investigation. you heard the president talk on friday on a couple of occasions about his views in general of some of the revelations that have been made, the leaks that have occurred. i think he spoke fairly expansively about both his concerns and his belief that we need to strike the appropriate balance between our national security interests and our interestsñrñr in privacy. >> nbc's ian williams joins us live by phone. he is in hong kong. so ian, there's a lot of conversation about international laws, treaties, extradition treaties. there's also word that hong kong could say, we don't want to turn

him over extradition, but we will expel him if he's, in fact, in hong kong. what are you hearing there? >> well, i'm not sure about the expulsion because hong kong has always been -- has closely followed the legal process. we're hearing through local media reports that edward snowden checked out of a hotel on the hong kong side of the harbor. there's no word to where he went or whether he's still in hong kong. although, that is the presumption. as you point out, hong kong does have an extradition treaty with the u.s. and in the past, there's been close cooperation in terms of when the u.s. have requested people. obviously, there needs to be a charge and snowden has not broken any hong kong law, which means to say it would be difficult to see how hong kong could simply expel him if their

own laws haven't been broken and if there is no charge against snowden here in hong kong. now, there is a bit of a mystery. he did cite coming to hong kong because of the strong legal system, the tradition of strong human rights. this is a legal system that was inherited from the british. a lot of people here are a little bit puzzled about this because there is this extradition treaty and, yes, there is a political opt-out clause, if you like. china does have an ultimate veto. nevertheless, most extradition requests to hong kong have been successful, there has been close cooperation in the past. it's just been a matter of time. so one question being asked here is he did mention iceland. why didn't he go to iceland straightaway instead of coming to hong kong? there are a lot of unanswered questions here. clearly, the hong kong police are not commenting at this point. they say he hasn't broken any

laws. they have no idea about his whereabouts. the media here is working itself up into a frenzy as they try and track him down, tamron. >> all right, ian. thank you very much for that information. now let me bring in our "news nation" political panel discussing this. thank you all for joining us. greg, i'd like to start with you. there is the lingering question of charges. i was fascinate by some of the articles, the most popular today regarding this nsa leak are all about snowden. people are fascinated by the fact he didn't graduate high school, but he landed this job making over $200,000 and what real access he had. >> that's a remarkable and so far kind of unexplained aspect of all of this. not only that he ended up in this high-paying job for booth allen but that he was apparently hired by the cia with thin academic credentials. in it the aftermath of 9/11, the agency has hired thousands and

thousands of employees. almost all with college degrees, especially for jobs with such a highly technical nature like the one he says he filled there. >> and beyond his background, down to the fact he donated to ronn paul some $250 to his presidential campaign, greg, the question is will the department of justice seek charges here? at least according to this article in "politico," they talk about the extradition treaties. they say the one between the united states and hong kong contains an exception for political crimes, a category snowden's admitted acts would almost certainly fall under. even so, hong kong could decide to expel him without turning him over to american authorities. they also point out that it could be essentially kidnap him while there and bring him back to the united states. what are we hearing, at least the justice department is considering? >> well, i think there's no question that the justice department is going to pursue this. i mean, we've seen the director

of national intelligence say that he's all in favor of that. the white house has sent similar signals. presumably, he would be charged for violations of the espionage act. as you say, the real question is, well, what are the mechanisms at work now for getting custody of him? and that's -- another puzzling as pekt here, his decision to flee to hong kong and his declaration he'll now seek asylum in another country where he might be protected. you know, this is all undoubtedly going to play out over some length of time,w3 jus as it has for julian assange in london, who's the creator of the wikileaks website. >> and to your point, he could end up at a consulate and seek some kind of protection. johnathan, let me bring you in on the political ramifications. there's still many questions. ted cruz now on a radio ad questioning the administration

and this grab of information as he's referred to it on his radio ad. you have some who say, libertarians in particular, that if this man is charged, and he could face, according to the information, at leastok two kin of charges under the espionage act, a maximum of ten years in jail for each of those charges, that it the obama administration would face a huge uproar from libertarians. >> there's a fascinating case of strange bedfellows, tamron, between the far left and the far right on this issue. civil libertarians in both cases principled on this particular issue, but taking american politics in a new direction. remember, during the cold war, there really were not voices, you know, saying that people should not be prosecuted on espionage charges because at that point, the republican party had pretty much thrown in its

lot entirely with its hawkish hardline elements. at the end of the cold war, it was suddenly possible for libertarians like rand paul and ted cruz to a certain extent to in the united states senate actually make common cause with people on the left on these issues. one of the other fascinating dimensions of this is does this tend to break down, at least in some fashion, like the drone issue, the intense hyperpartisanship of the last few years where you might have some newçóñr coalitions it on national security policy, which would be very, very interesting. >> how much does that weigh -- i guess i should say how much of snowden's background and who he is, perhaps, could that play a role in how long this stays in the immediate why? you bring up the drone issue. people were on the side of the administration. they felt that it kept us safe.

if, for example, snowden is the truth teller, might more people get behind him in a way that bradley manning saw support but from a very small niche group of people watching the news. >> i think there might be a few more in this case. i wouldn't say it's going to be a majority. you know, the difference between the drone attacks and this is that people feel that whether they're right or not, it's an invasion of their own privacy, which, you know, the shoe is on the other foot now. so you also have a situation where in his presentation, while he wasn't exactly -- wouldn't call him appealing, he did make an argument that he had not just blown secrets willy nilly, reveal the names of agents or anything. he had been rather selective in what he chose to release. i think that also could win him some new followers. i think most people in the

mainstream of the country will believe that the government does have an interest in keeping its secrets. >> greg, let me play more of what snowden said regarding the authority to wiretap anyone and get your reaction to that. >> i certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if i had a personal e-mail. >> your reaction to that, greg? >> my reaction, i guess, is one of a bit of skepticism. there are a couple things he said in that video and in those comments that seem like they possibly might have been exaggerated. he also talks about possibly being rendered by the cia back to u.s. custody or pursued by an ominous organization he refers to as the triad. so i think that we may end up learning that these materials that he released are authentic,

but his sense of his own role and his descriptions of his own positions may contain a bit of exaggeration. >> greg, what about the ominous threat that there is more, that some of it was held back because it is so sensitive but there is more to come? >> well, i mean, that certainly is true. it's not clear to me how much of it will now be released, but even here at "the washington post," i think, you know, we've written that we obtained far more slides than we actually posted. after consulting with experts and government officials on the sensitivity of some of the information contained in those slides and trying to avoid putting, you know, people or specific operations in harm's way. so there's been some real deliberation here over these things. but, you know, i think also glen greenwald from "the guardian" has been saying there's more to come on this.

>> we know snowden contacted the what's po washington post around the same time as "the guardian." has there been any recent contact between "the post" and snowden? >> well, in today's paper, the reporter who snowden approached had a chat over encrypted chat service with him just yesterday. so he has been in contact with "the post" since then. >> all right. thank you very much. we have some developing news.ñrr winnie mandela has just left the hospital where she visited mr. mandela, who's been receiving treatment for a lung infection for the last three days. we'll get a report for you out of south africa on nelson mandela's condition. is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop.

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the ex-wife of the former south african president arrived at the hospital with one of their daughters. mandela is now in intensive care in the third day of his most recent hospitalization for reoccurring lung condition. officials describe the 94-year-old's condition as serious. nbc's chapman bell joins us from johannesburg. is this the first visit where we've seen winnie mandela show up? >> reporter: tamron, yes, this is the first one in the most recent visit where she's actually been seen over the last four hospitalizations since december for this reoccurring lung infection. she was seen at the hospital where it's believed he's receiving this treatment for this lung condition. other members of the family have also been spotted over the last couple of days at this hospital as well as a few close friends. this is not his first hospitalization, as you said. it comes from the tuberculosis he contracted during his 27 years as a political prisoner

here. it's been an ailment in his late age. as you said, he's 94 years old. he's turning 95 next month. over the weekend in a statement, they said this condition was serious, which is actually the first time they've used this word to describe this condition. but they've said that he had stabilized and he was breathing on his own. an updated statement from the office of the president today said his condition remains unchanged. also, south africa's current president called and appealed for south africans to keep mandela in their prayers. he's very revered here, known as the father of modern day south africa, that really brought the country together after the apartheid years. he was transported from his house late on saturday for this treatment. he does have medical equipment in this home. obviously, doctors thought that the situation had gotten to the point that he needed to be in

hospital. also, over the last couple day, we have seen well wishers bringing get well cards and flowers and leaving them at his home here in johannesburg. tamron? >> is all right. thank you very much, chapman. organizers of north carolina's moral monday protest are expecting their largest turn out tonight. a member of congress also expected to attend. that is a first. we'll talk to one of the leaders of the state's naacp on this ongoing effort in that state. plus, the biggest showdown yet for comprehensive immigration reform comes tomorrow. we'll get the first read with n nbc's senior political editor mark murray. look what mommy is having.

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welcome back. a huge showdown starts playing out on the senate floor this week. the senate will vote tomorrow on whether to proceed with the so-called gang of eight immigration reform bill, which will open up debate on the bill and its amendments. with republican senator kelly ayotte publicly throwing her support behind the bill, looks

like getting 60 votes is a little easier. as nbc's first read team points out, the real name of the game is getting close to 70. joining me now live, nbc news senior political editor mark murray. let's talk numbers, then we'll talk emotions. >> tamron, as you mentioned, getting 60 votes is very feasible if you assume most of the democratic senators vote for the measure. you have the four gang of eight republicans who also support it. kelly ayotte, maybe susan collins. you see how you can get 60 votes. the question is, do you end up getting 70? 70 is kind of getting close to a way to force the republican-led house to take up the legislation or at least give it a big enough force to make sure they take that up. as we saw with that fiscal cliff debate at the beginning of the year as well with with the hurricane sandy, a very large majority coming from the senate forces the house to have to act. >> and it was senator kelly ayotte who took a lot of heat

after the gun vote. obviously, these are different issues. emotion, nevertheless, behind these votes and the desire to proceed ahead with it. is it a big surprise here that she went this direction at this point? >> no, it's not, tamron. one thing to keep in mind is that kelly ayotte, like a lot of other republicans key in this debate, are up for re-election in 2016. 2016 happens to be a presidential year, a year in which there will probably be a lot more democrats turning out to vote in a place like new hampshire. there could be some electoral consequences. tamron, the biggest incentive for a lot of republicans is the establish people in their party realize they need to be able to do a better job wooing latino voters. they think having this immigration debate in the rearview mirror is the best way of doing that. that's really the biggest motivation here. on the democratic side, their incentive is to follow through on a campaign process. >> all right, mark. we'll be speaking with you tomorrow as this moves forward. thanks a lot. >> thanks. sandy hook families head

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and let the good life in. welcome back. for the seventh straight week, hundreds of people are expected to descend on north carolina's capital for what's being called moral monday. it's a protest against the state's republican governor and legislature. more than 150 people were arrested at last week's demonstration. for the first time, a member of congress will join the local naacp and other activists who say republican policies will cut medicaid, education, and voting rights for minorities. pat cory reiterated he will not meet with the protesters. joining me now, jimmy hawkins, a member of north carolina's naacp. thank you for your time. >> thank you. glad to be here. >> i know the next protest starts in a few hours from now. you're expecting even more than the last monday. why are more people turning out? >> i think this is resonating

across the state. people are hearing and seeing what this legislativeçó is doin. they're outragengoutraged. they can't sit back and not do and say something. it's been quite powerful to see over the last month. more and more people not only showing up to be arrested but also to participate and to witness they stand in opposition to what this group is doing. >> the governor called for an end to these protests. he called them unlawful at his party's gop convention in charlotte saturday. he said that he was not intimidated by the protests. also, you have republican lawmakers who say, listen, this is the will of the people. they were voted in. many of these laws that are being passed or that are being proposed are things they promised while campaigning and it's simply a reflection of what the voters want in your state. >> i would strongly disagree with that. i am so disappointed in governor mccory. he painted himself as a moderate.

now we see that he's not a wolf in sheep's clothing. i'm not sure what he is. he's not representing the constituency of north carolina. if he was, then why are so many people coming out? why did we start with 17 individuals and went to 29 and then got up to 51 and at the last arrest there were over 150 willing to be arrested to simply say to the leadership of this state, you are taking this state in the wrong direction. we strongly disagree. yes, we are expecting even more people touu)n out today to demonstrate, to protest, and to lift their voices saying that we are not pleased at all with the leadership of the general assembly. >> one of those, as we mentioned, a part of those turning out, democratic congressman g.k. butterfield. he says he plans to join. he says the cuts to health care, education, unemployment insurance just to name a few disproportionately target low-income people, many of whom he represents. are you hearing from more

lawmakers, more democrats who want to join? >> i had a conversation with congressman butterfield the other day. he's very excited about this opportunity to participate. as a matter of fact, we're calling clergy together from throughout the state at 5:00 to meet at halifax mall to continue with the protests. he'll be there for a few minutes to speak to us. i'm not quite sure of the position of other lawmakers as far as being arrested. i do know that many of them feel the same way that we do. there have been several press conferences in the general assembly building where legislatives have come together to decree, repeal the racial justice act, to decree the refusal of the governor and others to promote and provide medicaid for citizens of this state. i can say this from a personal point of view, that the clergy that i have heard from who are planning on showing up today have simply -- they say it time and time again. i've been waiting for an opportunity to say something.

this is a ball game i want to get in, and i want to have my voice heard. >> all right, reverend. thank you so much. this latest protest starts in a few hours. we'll continue to follow the developments in north carolina and how it may impact an upcoming election. thank you. still ahead, our "news nation" gut check. edward snowden admits he leaked classified information about the government surveillance program. so should he be prosecuted? we're going to tell you how you can weigh in. be sure to like "news nation" on facebook. we regularly update our facebook page. video, pictures, all you need to know about my team, our show, and even a little about me. facebook.com/newsnation.

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a number of sandy hook families will head back to capitol hill tomorrow marking the six months since the shooting rampage that ended with 20 children and six adults killed. there will be meetings with

republican and democratic poll igs -- politicians to push for gun legislation. the families lobbied earlier this year, but the background check bill fell in the senate. this comes as a california college gets ready to hold a vigil tonight for five people killed in a shooting rampage across the city. students returned to santa monica college this morning where all of the buildings were open except for the library. police killed the gunman after he fired off 70 rounds. police describe the shooter as emotionally troubled. eamon, do we know anymore about how he was able to obtain this assault rifle? >> well, that information still has not been made clearfá by police. investigators have been trying to address that question. in fact, at a press conference on saturday, they laid out some of the weapons that the suspect was carrying or the gunman was carrying at the time he was killed. that was in a duffel bag that was left outside the library. in it were some 1300 rounds of

ammunition as well as that top part of an assault rifle. they've also released images of the gunman carrying what they have described as a semi-automatic weapon. they have taken thew3ñr bottom , which tends to have the serial number. they're trying to trace those weapons, find out if they were in his name or if someone else's name. they have also released the identity of that suspect. he is being identified now as 23-year-old john. a man they say went on a premeditated killing spree in santa monica. tamron? >> all right, eq

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there's no debating this. an underdog gets on broadway's best. but in this day and age, are we all just stuck watching the same old show? here on "the cycle" we're always rewriting the script. >> i'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, this is something that's not our place to decide. the public needs to decide whether these programs or policies are right or wrong. >> the hunt is on for 29-year-old edward snowden, the american citizen who handed those classified nsa documents to "the guardian" and "the washington post." snowden calls himself a whistleblower. when he's a hero or villain depends on your point of view. snowden is now