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away. he maintained that he was a, quote, doting father. senator gillibrand's request was simple. prosecutors with legal training, not military commanders without it, should handle these cases. since 1991 an estimated 500,000 men and women in the military have been sexually assaulted. last year alone there were 26,000 sexual assaults in the military, up 26 thoirks last year. less than 1% resulted in a conviction. it appears some senators cannot abide by a break in the chain of command. carl levin said he would replace gillibrand's measure with one that would require senior military officers to review them when they refuse to prosecute a sexual assault case. on monday he made his case within the chain of command saying commanders ought to have
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and use the tools that are the most effective in terms of changing climate and affecting the behavior of people in their units and that's to have available to them the power to send to a court marshal. >> not every single commander believes what a sexual assault is. not every single commander can decide between a slap on the ass and a problem. >> joining me today, author and radio host of "studio 360", curt anderson. editor and publisher of the nation and publisher of the washington post, katrina van hoevel. jonathan cape heart and washington bureau chief of the "huffington post", ryan brand. capitol hill correspondent kelly
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o'donnell. kelly, thanks for joining us. as our eyes and ears on capitol hill, what explains carl levin seemingly bucking his party and fighting with top brass over such an incendiary issue. >> this doesn't fall along party lines as much as you might think. there's more to it here. they believe carl levin is working in good faith but sees this issue differently. some would say doesn't get it. others say he has an alternative. the levin idea to make it a crime to fail to report and to have some extra supervision would be a step forward but the real issue comes down to we've hit a critical mass where there is such outrage about the level of problem of sexual assault, the kristen gillibrand idea is it one that many civilians look at and see a reasonable way to
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go but it would up end how the military has done so much of what it does over centuries now. it was a con thrtroversial move. there are some who say taking it out of the chain of command is a step too far. now this isn't over. there will be opportunities to debate this, to work on it, to see if there are other solutions. right now it is a big sign that an idea put forth by more than 2 dozen senators behind kirsten gillibrand is being put aside by a powerful chairman who has a long relationship with the armed services. he has been the chair of the committee and is trying to address the problem. they don't see eye to eye on how to do that. there will be more discussion. this is not going away. >> kelly, this happened fairly late last night. what was the reaction on the hill? there was a lot of momentum behind senator gillibrand's proposal. was there a sense of outrage?
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>> well, i would say people who have been following this closely are not entirely surprised because of the enormity of the change this would bring about. at the same time there had been the sense of a building momentum because of the fact that victims are saying keeping it in the charch of command are part of the problem. it cannot change or improve without a way for victims to feel safe against retaliation, to feel that their careers won't be derailed. there's a new way of looking at a problem that have been around. men and women say this is absolutely a problem but how do you fix it. there is a plan that has a lot of public support has been derailed. there isn't as much surprise in terms of how things work here. can there be some alternatives. can there be other ideas that other senators want to put forward that could improve the situation? they say so but it won't be as sweeping a change as gillibrand
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had hoped for. >> kelly, i want to open this up to our panel. katrina, half a million people have faced sexual assault. on may 6th there was sexual battery. the head of the fort campbell harassment case was arrested in a domestic dispute. the idea that the fox is policing the hen house. it's outrageous that carl levin has done what he did. tradition dies hard. >> the problem has metastasized. i'm not shocked by carl levin's actions. we're looking at the president and secretary of defense hagel. the president commend bli spoke to this issue for the first time, really did a commander in chief but is unwilling to break the military chain of command. what kirsten gillibrand is proposing is common sense and simple. it's taking a military prosecutor trained in sexual
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assault. i would bring attention also, this is a problem we have known about but it's taken the critical mass to bring this attention -- to bring this problem the attention and the urgency it demands. >> and just based on this, jonathan, you have carl levin who has been a member of the armed services committee since 1998, kirsten gillibrand since 2007. you have the visual of the hearing. it is all men except that one woman. optically it's very bad to have a man who has been sort of embedded in this military tradition, he's not in the military, siding with secretary of defense against these women who really brought the issue to the fore. it's effectively shutting down one major piece of a solution, perhaps, to the problem. >> yeah. what we're seeing in that picture and today is that a
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clash of traditions and cultures. the united states is a different place than when senator levin walked in as is the military. i have to commend senators gillibrand and mccaskill and others on the hill for pushing this issue. this goes to show, imagine if senator gillibrand was the only woman in the senate or if there were no women in the senate, would we even be talking about this? would this even be seen as an issue that needed to be dealt with? i have to commend senator gillibrand for at least trying to bring some common sense to this issue. it's unfortunate that senator levin has decided to side with tradition and the military's chain of command than with the half mill people who have been assaulted. >> ryan, i think we should be clear in terms of these sexual assaults. it's not just women, it's women and the troops. there are men in the senate that are also pushing to really
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substantively address this problem. i want to play a little sound from senator leahy yesterday in response to carl levin. let's hear what he had to say. >> with all of you here, let me tell you there is some talk, and this matter would not be before the appropriations committee, before the judiciary committee, to removing the exemption and allowing state prosecutors to move in on those cases. i throw that out, realize that would be quite controversial but i throw that out as a matter as a warning to the military chain of command. do things as they've always been done is not acceptable. >> leahy's there saying, okay, you're afraid of breaking the chain of command. what if we bring in state prosecutors which is doubling down in many waste. >> warning is the perfect word for that. it looks like that's what they're basically going to get
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off with. but it's a serious warning in the sense that they now recognize, okay, you can't get away with this anymore. the entire world is watching. this little compromise that you've set up or some man who's above the man who didn't decide to take action on this might take action on it. okay. it looks like you're going to get away with that this time. everybody is watching. if sexual assaults continue like this, then you're not going to have another chance. the military is not -- you know, is not independent of the civilian structure. civilian structure is over it. that's what leahy is reminding them of. we're over you. if you're committing crimes, we're going to prosecute you. it's amazing they can commit crimes and not get prosecuted. >> if we're not going to get the gillibrand change but we don't want status quo, you have the opportunity in this strict military command structure to say, listen, generals and
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colonels, if this happens, this is going to have serious repercussions in your career. you have the ability in this system to if you have the will at the top in the secretary of defense and president, to say you've got to do this and you're done. >> they tossed this overboard last friday. they sent it out without any fanfare on a friday night. they throughout the major overhaul like the area around japan for not enforcing sexual assault. that was a signal to everybody. >> they will deal with it. kelly, john mccain had a powerful statement a few weeks ago that he could no longer during the hearings, there was a family that said can you guarantee the safety of our daughter as she enters the armed services? mccain said, i cannot. i thought that was a line in the sand as far as john mccain and his position on this issue. what has been the reaction to carl levin's actions in the past
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24 hours. >> what mccain said was so stark because of his history. this is a difficult issue for everyone because there is broad agreement that this can't go on. this is a problem that has gotten to epic proportions and there's been failure after failure to address it. one of the things that may come out of this is a setback like today with kirsten gillibrand's idea being cut. sometimes a setback will bring thinks around and bring it on another change. failure often precedes some jump in success. i see that a lot on capitol hill. this is the kind of issue because of the emotion, the starkness of numbers, because of what's at stake, because of what it has done to the morale and image of the u.s. military, that is something that does not sit well with any member of congress, to let this go on.
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how to fix it has been the problem. how to get the top brass to be able to take steps. much of the credit has to go to victims, men and women have risked a great deal to come forward in addition to having so many members of the senate who are women. there are women in the house who are pushing for this, too m. what i would say is when you have a set back look at this for a opportunity for this to open. >> where a door shuts, a window opens. thanks for the update. >> after the break, new details continue to trickle out about nsa surveillance, the administration plays dodge ball with its own record. james clapper who had this exchange with senator ron widen at a hearing back in march. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not?
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>> not wittingly. there are cases where they could inadd verdi verd verdicirtually unwhit continuing pli. >> on saturday he said that was the least untruthful answer he could give. the least untruthful. we will discuss congressional oversight when representative keith ellison joins us. hoo-hoo. hoo-hoo...hoo-hoo. hoo-hoo hoo. sir... i'll get it together i promise... heeheehee. jimmy: ronny, how happy are folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico? ronny:i'd say happier than the pillsbury doughboy
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house knew about it, approved it, stood up and said it's right. you've got to trust them. that's what the government is about. >> the public debate about government intrusions into privacy, one that president obama welcomes is now in full swing. >> the government spooks are drunk on power and it's time tore congress to intervene. government can't use a soef yit style drag net approach hoping to catch a big fish while catching the endangered species of freedom. >> the vast majority seem to be content with the status quo. "the new york times" reports that leaders in both parties are involved in a, quote, coordinated effort to squelch any legislated move to rein in the surveillance programs. yesterday harry reid rebuked those complaining about a lack of transparency. >> if they don't come and take advantage of this i can't say enough to say don't -- they shouldn't come and say i wasn't
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aware of this because they had every opportunity to be aware of this. >> one of the senators that is adamantly opposed to it is ron widen. he pointed to misleading statements including director of national intelligence, james clapper, who claimed they were not collecting american data, or at least wittingly. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about if you can't get straight answers. >> late yesterday the aclu filed a lawsuit claiming the nsa's drag net violated the first and fourth amendments asserting it gives the government a, quote, wealth of information about our familial, political, and
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intimate associations. yes, after a briefing yesterday with intelligence officials one house democrat excomplained kind of the case for blanket surveillance. >> one of the individuals said why do you need all of those numbers in kind of a database and they said, if you have a needle in a haystack -- if you have to find a needle in the haystack, you need to find the haystack. >> without the haystack you would just have the needle. anyway, in the white house briefing room the double speak continu continued. >> the obama administration protects whistle blowers. >> presumably that's independent of the fact that this administration has protected more leakers/whistle blowers than any previous administrations behind. consistency can be tricky. >> i don't have to listen to your phone calls to know what you're doing. if i know every single phone call you made i'm able to determine every single person you talked to i can get a pattern about your life that is
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very, very intrusive. if it's true that 200 million american phone calls were monitored in terms of not listening to what they said but to whom they spoke and who spoke to them, i don't know, the congress should investigate this. >> joining us from capitol hill is democratic congressman from minnesota, keith ellison. thank you so much for joining us. >> thanks, alex. >> this weekend you said the average member of congress knows almost nothing about these secret programs. you attended the briefing yesterday. are you satisfied? >> no. i think congress needs to step forward boldly and to change the law. i mean, the 215 of the patriot act you could drive a truck through it. it allows the government to do almost anything. it needs to be significantly curtailed. we need some insight how the court is making the decisions. what's the basis of the decisions? the whole needle in the haystack thing i find disturbing and
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scary. i worked in the criminal justice system in minnesota for 16 years and when the police had evidence of a crime or had reasonable to believe somebody was a criminal and might commit a crime, they dealt with those people. even if they ran across a number the criminal had called, everybody can understand why they would follow up with that person who they called but what about people who have nothing to do with it? the fact is, the presumption should be the government leaves you until r alone unless you have done something to have them intrude in your life, not the reverse, which the whole haystack needle thing i think gets all wrong. congressman, there is a move in the senate, they're asking the attorney general to declassify significant opinions made by the support that you spoke about, one that is thus far largely rub be stamped government requests. do you foresee a similar movement in the house? >> yes, i do. as a matter of fact, congressman
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conniers and amash, republican and democrat, are moving forward on measures like this. i support them. i think they're absolutely right. i'd like to see more transparency. quite frankly, i am as interested in security of our country as anyone. i hate terrorism as anyone but i also believe we cannot turn our constitutional system on its head because of fear. this country is the freest country in the world. when they're following up on hard evidence and behavior of people who break the law or who threaten to or who engage in suspicious activity or who operate on behalf of foreign governments. the fact is we have the tools that we need in the fourth amendment already. we don't need to abandon our constitutional framework. >> congressman, the president seems to have an attitude of trust us, we've got this. have you been disappointed by that?
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>> you know what, i'm a supporter of the president, but let me just say that i really believe that the executive wran much needs to be under the oversight and supervision and close scrutiny of the legislative branch, i don't care who's the president. i don't care if it's obama, bush, nixon, clinton, any of them, we've got to make sure we know what they're doing and we're asking them the right questions and we're getting honest answers and have reason to doubt that we've been getting honest answers based on some of the testimony i saw from mr. clapper and so, you know, this is the relationship. this is within the legislative body that we debate issues and balance issues of national security and constitutional rights. it is within the executive branch to do all they can to protect the american public. that's why the framers had checks and balances. so i'm not here to cast aspersions on president obama personally. i think congress has to do its job. i think we need honest answers
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from the executive branch. >> nor am i. >> i didn't mean anything by that. >> no, it's okay. i want to open this up too our panel here in new york for a moment, congressman. katrina, the president has maintained that all branches of government signed off and the more we hear from members of congress the less it seemed like they signed off on this. >> somewhere along the road from 9/11 the country lost its bearings when it came to the balance of security and liberty. i have great respect for congressman em lis son. it is the case that congress has abetted the secrecy, the secrecy of programs, the doubling down on the patriot act. a few days after 9/11 when it was passed i believe one member of congress admitted to having read the patriot act. we're living in a system of a baton having been passed from president george w. bush, let's not forget, and this administration doubling down, deepening u expanding the surveillance state. it's going to take a congress i
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think to stand up. i'm reminded of four decades ago the church and pike committees in congress at a different moment of revelations about intelligence abuses held hearings and brought fourth a body of evidence and roused a nation, people need to be roused by this, that's a different issue, and then we saw things like the pfizer accord. people such as former vice president cheney have worked a sid due wouszly. i would add one last thing. the aclu often gets maligned in this country. the nation was a co-plaintiff in a case called clapper versus amnesty international which challenged the amendment statute and argued that the nsa was collecting information on americans. that was thrown out because of state secrets, because of the leaks by snowden and the supreme court said that the case is
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speculative. i no longer believe the challenge, which the aclu has mounted in a different way yesterday is speculative. i think all branches need to check the executive branch. that is what democracy, as i recall from my civics class, was all about. >> ryan, in terms of congressional oversight here, congress's role, you know, harry reid basically said yesterday in response to questions over whether the senate was going to move on some legislation, any legislation that people have to offer i'll take a look at it which doesn't actually sound like a man with his pants on fire. i think as katrina mentioned, i was talking about this is my kol leak and friend chris hayes. one of the pieces that may be missing is a specific example of the abuse, of the mishandling of information. before we have that the public remains sanguine about it. >> if you could get people in the nsa to say this is how we play around this and this is
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what we're doing, related to that, president obama is not going to be in office forever. you might trust obama, but i promise you he will leave office at some point. this whole debate is being structured around this balance between security and liberty. i don't actually think that it's obvious that the nsa program here gives you necessarily more security. one reason we were attacked on 9/11 was pure incompetence. fbi director louie freeh had spent time going after president clinton. this might be an over reaction that actually misses the needle. >> but just as you say, alex, that we need to know if there are, indeed, specific abuses that we would find outrageous, i think we need to know the purported benefits. instead of leaving it on the
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abstract, okay, yeah, sure, but we needed transparency. here's the bennett. you decide. we have no ability to decide. we're reduced to talking in abstracts. >> it might be that you missed the needle because it's covered with the giant haystack. >> you need the haystack to find the needle. >> there's so much information that they might not be able to analyze it all and they miss something. >> to curt's point, senator feinstein said and congressman rogers, this has thwarted terrorist attacks so why not tell us what those are. i think one of the reasons why i'm having such a hard time grappling with this trying to find my inner outrage, but my what's the big deal. walter pink cuss, washington
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post wrote a column yesterday that i would encourage everyone to read -- >> it is linked to in your column. >> yes, it is. he points out all of this hullabaloo over this, "usa today" pointed it out in 2006. >> right. >> wired magazine in march had a huge, big story about nsa's awe tau data mining story that's going on. so it's not like we, meaning collectively the people did not know that we didn't know anything about this or there's nothing to read about this. it's been out there. it's just that until some guy decided to give information to the washington post and "the guardian" and leave hawaii for hong kong. >> and the scope and scale. >> i want to bring you back in here because you are an elected official tasked with handling some of this. part of this conversation, part of the lack of dialogue is that
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members of the left and right have been come police sit in the expansion of a surveillance state. to some degree it has almost become -- >> i wouldn't quite go that far. a lot of us voted dpens it. i voted against the patriot act. there are a lot of no votes and there are a lot of people who have been critics. >> go ahead. >> i think talking about curbing or dialing back surveillance and intelligence gathering is becoming almost a third rail of american politics. if you say that, if you say you want to trim back the size and scope -- >> but we do say it. >> what's that? >> but we do say it. we do say that the patriot act went too far. there were ample votes against it. there were people who said no. i said no. so did many others. and so, i mean, i'm not ready to say that the right and the left are come police sit. my own opinion is that the middle, with i is where the locust of power is, may well be
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come police scitsicitsicity -- . o'connor has been consistent in his critique of this approach. now maybe there's enough impetus to get something moving. >> yeah. i certainly want to underscore the fact that i think we are seeing a change here in terms of dialogue in and around this. >> but the people who have been complaining for years have been complaining for years and now we're at a moment perhaps when they can be listened to. it just was mentioned a moment ago, it's not as if there was never any mention of these things before it's just being in congress and the media, it's like drinking out of a fire hose. did they make it available in a way that i understood that i need to go into some room, no staff, no notes, no phones, nothing and read this document?
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there was never a at this pointoff that said this demanded my attention. i maintain that we have not been meaningfully noticed about this program but now we know about it. we've got to do something about it. i'm glad we're in this moment where we can nab some reform. >> the fire hose congressman is definitely the valve is open for sure. before we let you go, in terms of, you know, the information that you are getting, are you -- do you feel better informed? do you feel like there is more that you still have -- need to know? are there questions you still have regarding these programs? >> yes. i have a number of questions still, such as, you know, it's been said, you know, that we gave you notice. i'm still looking for when that notice was actually meaningfully given. i haven't seen that yet. number two, they say this has thwarted acts of terrorism. i'd like somebody to explain that. i have my doubts about that.
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i've heard conflicting stories. and the story that i've been hearing from some is awfully convenient to justify the program but i have some alternative stories that i've heard as well. so these stories, these questions are still nagging me and i want to know why it is that they need the whole haystack if they're looking for some needles in it. it would seem to me the presumption is we have to surveil everyone so we can get someone. i'm not sure that is true. in fact, i'm pretty sure it's not. so all of these things remain questions and i'm sure there's even more than that. >> i'm sure there are. congressmen keith ellison. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you and thank everyone. coming up, as police and protesters clash in istanbul, the prime minister meets with some protesters. we'll get a live update from
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turn. they hit them with tear gas and water cannons killing four and injuring thousands. it's been weeks since protesters took over gezi park. it's evolved in a major challenge for prime minister erdogan. the protests have spread to 78,000 cities. today erdogan met with students, academics, artists. the legitimacy of the meeting was talked about. erdogan has talked about them being an up rising against a democratic government. in a speech on sunday erdogan doubled down on the tactics. quote, those who attempt to sink
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the horse, you will collapse. if we catch your speculation, we will choke you. no matter who you are, we will choke you. erdogan's government has been characteristically uncompromising with the media. today a turkish agency has fined a television studio for live streaming it. a white house agency offered little in the way of specifics. we continue to follow the events in turkey with concern and our interest remains supporting freedom of expression and the rights to precome to to protest. joining us is ayman molveldin. let's go to richard engel who is live in istanbul. it seems the protests have dissipated. it looks a little caulker. what is the mood on the ground there now? >> reporter: i would say it is much calmer. there haven't been any clashes today. there's no tear gas in the air. we were just down in the square below where i'm standing right
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n now. there are a lot of high ott police. they are in a relaxed mode. they're interacting with people. a very different atmosphere. there is a concern, of course, certainly the one that is a concern among the protesters, that this could get violent, that some agitators could come in and change the mood particularly now that night is upon us. so far it has been a very different atmosphere. if you go a couple of blocks away from here, you would never know there had been any protests at all. a few streets away there are thousands of people shopping, in cafes, out enjoying what has been a somewhat windy but a cool late spring day.
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so the protest movement is contained and calm. it's fair to say it is an uneasy calm. there are many protesters still here and many riot police with tear gas, masks at the ready. >> richard, i spoke with someone who returned from turkey and she said it seemed 50-50 split. do you get the sense that the turkish population is still divided over this? >> reporter: very much divided. 50-50 is about right. that is the percentage that erdogan won or almost 50% the last election. it's really a split between two camps. there is the secular camp, the youth vote, the artists primarily. a lot of people in the military who respect this country's long decades long secular tradition and want it to be a more europe
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looking country that has a muslim country but keeps the strict separation between church and state and erdogan looking towards the middle east, looking to make this country the leader of the islamic world and would look toward the south and east in their foreign policy instead of looking towards the west. >> richard, i'm going to open this up to our folks in the studio. ayman, how much of this is expected to erdogan's tear gassing, take no prisoner language given who he is as a leader and who he's been thus far. >> over the years he's been a strong-handed individual. he's an individual who talks very firmly. he's always used that strong language. it does not come as a surprise in terms of the language. the fact that the language is translating to the kind of violence has surprised many
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people. this is a protest that was not political when it started, it was about civil planning in the park. we've seen the government's tactics and the language that has come out of the prime minister. that seems to havage ge tated the public. he's talking in so many ways that we've seen other arab leaders using, foreign hands involved, traitors, some kind of terrorist element, you're trying to destabilize turkey when it may have been very legitimate grievances about planning a park. >> the other question is, ayman, how much the destabilized -- we're talking about a fairly volatile region. turkey is home to almost 400,000 syrian refugees. the prime minister met with
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erdogan. in 2011 president obama called erdogan on the phone more than any other foreign leader except for david cameron to give you a sense of the partnership that the white house sees in erdogan. his actions will theoretically have repercussionness terms of our relationship with turkey. >> absolutely. when president obama was in israel he brokered that very important phone call between israel and turkey. that's another lynchpin, israel/turkey relationship. it has been a major player in the issues of syria, the israeli/palestinian conflict, trade between europe. turkey under the leadership of erdogan has done well, stock market is doing well, corruption has gone down. it is a country that has been a model of islamist politics. there are so many grievances, so
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according to gallup, for the first time since 2005 former president george w. bush is viewed more favorably than unfavorably. a new gallup poll shows w with a 49% favorable rating while 49% still have their memories int t intact. >> once you're no longer president, who has the energy to keep disliking or disapproving? >> the writer gorbidol once described this country as the united states of amnesia. i say this seriously. i think it's dick cheney as the president. i would like to see favorability ratings on dick cheney. i don't think they're high. he's still on the hukster stand. >> george bush has kept it low. >> right. that's the point i was going to make is that this is a president who has adhered to the tradition
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of ex-presidents. when you leave the white house, you're gone. you stay silent. you don't talk about your successor. you stay out of the spotlight. unlike vice president cheney or president cheney, he has stayed out of the spotlight. he has not talked about anything of any kind of substance since he's left. the most substance he's done are those paintings. >> they're pretty amazing, i have to say. setting aside the policies, the wars, everything he's done. the barney paintings are good. >> one of the only interviews he's given was to huff post. >> that was while he was biking with wounded veterans. you can criticize him for the decision that led to them getting wounded but now that it's happened, that's the thing that he's thrown himself into. good for him for that. he's stayed -- he hasn't really shared his opinions. it's helped him become more popular. >> we're living with a w world. we were talking about the tool kit. george w bush and cheney. >> it is living in a w world, on
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right now on andrea mitchell reports, a victory. sexual assault prosecutions away from the commanders bill was killed. >> a lot of folks don't feel comfortable reporting the crimes because they feel they'll either be retaliated against or marginalized in their career or even blamed. >> i don't personally believe that you can eliminate the command structure in the military from this process because it is the culture, it is the institution, it's the people within that institution that have to