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for you. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. for a body in motion. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," crossing the line. the white house stepping up its game in syria after declaring president assad has used chemical weapons against his own people. but is the added firepower too little, too late? former president bill clinton, who criticized president obama's policy earlier this week, praised the move on "morning joe." >> the white house has made it clear that they intend to do more, they're exploring their options and right now they don't want to talk about the details and i don't blame them, because the less they talk about the details, the more likely their increased assistance it likely to be effective. and as i said, they want to see what our other allies are willing to do. so i think on balance, this should be seen as a positive
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story. >> a moment of silence in newtown. victims' families and gun control advocates marked six months since the deadly school massacre. >> today is a day of remembrance and we're here to honor the lives, not only of the 26 people who we lost in newtown six months ago, but the 33 americans who are murdered with guns every single day. not welcome. britain tells airlines that edward snowden is not allowed on flights in to the uk. as the international manhunt for the nsa leaker continues. decision day in iran. voters head to the polls to choose who will succeed outgoing president mahmoud ahmadinejad. but credibility of today's vote is already being called into question. and a chorus line of congratulations for michigan's john dingell. supremes singer mary wilson led dingell's wife debbie, health
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and human services secretary kathleen sebelius were on the dance floor, he's the longest serving congressman. wonder woman, actress lynda carter, a dingell family friend, even joined in. >> impressive moves, ladies. good day, everyone. i'm kristin welker in for andrea mitchell. with the president's red line in syria now definitively crossed, the decision to arm the rebels gets a green light but the obama administration's chief critic on syria, john mccain, says it may be too little, too late to change the equation on the ground. take a listen 367. >> i applaud the president's decision. 93,000 people dead later, over 1 million refugees in the countries in the surrounding region erupting into sectarian violence. >> joining me now, new york "times" national security
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correspondent mark mizetti. based on my reporting and your reporting, we know that the administration is supplying small arms and ammunition but the opposition says that it actually needs a lot more, including antitank and antiaircraft weapons. do you think at this point in time that the obama administration is seriously considering ramping up its weaponry to the opposition forces? >> well, what we are hearing from officials yesterday was that it certainly is possible that it could -- the support could increase to anti-tank weapons but there does seem to be a clear line in the sand that the obama administration is not going to be supplying antiaircraft weapons which rebels said that they would like. there is concern in the u.s. government that antiaircraft weapons could get into the hands of islamists. they could spread around syria. they could ultimately eventually be used for taking down commercial airliners. so right now it looks like that is not a level of support the administration is willing to provide. >> mark, i have heard that some
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weapons have already made their way in to syria. what are you hearing in terms of that and in terms of the timeline? >> well, there's no question that the u.s. has been quietly blessing arm shipments to syria rebels from qatar, from saudi arabia, from jordan, from a number of american allies. the american supplies we're expecting that will begin soon, within the next couple of weeks, maybe even sooner. again, the question is what kind of support they will actually -- how will it change the situation in syria, how will it change the military equation in syria. john mccain is questioning whether it is too little, too late. we have seen in the last week that the rebel positions are increasingly in trouble. the cities are falling so they needed these weapons sooner rather than later. >> assad has captured key
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strongholds, russia is coming out today disputing the united states' claims of use of chemicals weapons. did president obama wait too late to engage politically. >> there is no question that the obama administration did not want to get into this situation. all of the statements, both privately, publicly from administration officials, is that they did not want to have direct u.s. support. the red line rhetoric that the president used, the statement he made about the red line clearly put the obama administration in a little bit of a bind once it was proven in the american intelligence calculation that chemical weapons were used, the administration believed it had to do something. yes wshlg yes, the question is whether american support will tip the balance. aleppo is under siege. the government is looking to retake that town and all of the momentum right now in is the hands of government troops.
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>> mark, quickly, the white house is holding a briefing right now previewing the president's trip to northern ireland for the g-8 summit. to what extent does he really need to pressure putin to, in turn, pressure assad to step down and do you expect that to come out of the g-8 summit? >> right. so the pressure right now is he wanted to make this announcement before the g-8 summit to make it look like the u.s. was actually taking definitive steps. what the russians will now do, i mean it is clear that they are continuing to support president assad's regime. there is some time in the future another peace conference that's discussed but the obama administration wants to delay that as long as possible to allow, in their mind, a little bit of the balance to shift, maybe to get a lot of the rebels to get some more momentum. because now if they were to go into another peace conference, the americans believe that of all of the momentum and all of the leverage would be on the side of assad and the russians.
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>> mark mazetti from "the new york times", we appreciate it. peter king is a member of the house intelligence committee and he joins us now live. thank you so much, congressman. i know it is a busy day in the house. >> you're welcome. >> first off, do you agree with the obama administration's decision to arm the opposition forces in syria? >> i think something had to be done. i think the obama administration has waited too long, it is going to make it more difficult. my concern right now is we could be arming the rebels that could push assad out but then we could have al qaeda supporters taking over. so in addition to whatever weapons we are providing, what we have to be doing as well is to position allies on the ground to ensure that the rebels who support us -- or at least are not al qaeda supporters -- to make sure that they are in a position to take over at the end, or at least to keep al
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qaeda on -- otherwise we're taking a bad situation and making it worse. >> you say that the president may have waited too long to actually engage. assad has already taken over some key areas in the region. is he stoppable at this point, congressman, based on what you know? >> six months or a year ago we were told assad only had a few months to go. now he's back on offense. it is going to be difficult to stop him. on the other hand, if we do stop him, i wouldn't want it to be al qaeda supporting forces who end up on top when this is all over. it is tricky. we have to do enough to push assad out but at the same time we have to do what we can to ensure that the rebel forces who prevail at least are sympathetic to us and not's posed to us. >> i want to ask you about a recent nbc news/"wall street journal" poll which showed there is not a lot of support or appetite at all for engaging in syria. only 15% of americans think that we should take military action.
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what do you say to americans right now who are saying maybe this wasn't the right move? >> well, to me it is only the right move because i'm hoping that we can do enough to prevent al qaeda supporters from taking over. what is important about syria is they have large amounts of chemical weapons. we certainly don't want al qaeda or any of its affiliates to get access to those chemical weapons. also this is very -- could be very damaging to jordan and to israel who are our two closest allies in the region. that's the main u.s. interest we have there. i know senator mccain has a great humanitarian concern. i understand that. but to me the real concern is the chemical wells, jordan and israel. if we're giving assistance, we have to fine tune it, make sure it is not going to end up in the hands of the rebels hostile to us and also that when this is over, it is the rebels who are supportive of us, or at least neutral toward us who emerge on top. >> congressman, i want to shift to the nsa. you have really been out front in terms of calling for edward snowden, and even glen greenwald
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of "the guardian" to be prosecuted. you've been inside these intelligence briefings. do you have any better sense at this hour of where edward snowden might be right now? is he still in hong kong? >> i really don't know. what they tell us when we ask is that it is under investigation, or part of an active investigation. i know that every effort is being made to track him down. to me, people who glorify him and make him out to be a hero are just doing damage to the country just like snowden did. this person is not a hero. he is a person who's betrayed his country, violated his oath and caused incalculable damage to our national security. >> some of your colleagues want to investigate whether or not he actually has ties to china. what are your thoughts about that? do you have any actual reason to believe that that might be the case? >> there is a lot of reason for suspicion. first of all, the fact that he transferred money to china. the fact that he had studied chinese. the fact that his girlfriend had some connections to china. the fact that of all countries
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in the world he went to china and he went -- and he arranged to have the papers or his documents released on the same weekend that president obama was meeting with the president of china and why he's still in china. what is chinese intelligence doing with all this. no, listen, there is no definitive proof yet but it is something that has to be investigated fully. my belief that it is being fully investigated. >> quickly, i just want your reaction -- apparently during the amendment process for the 2014 defense programs bill the house voted to keep guantanamo bay open and fully funded. how did you vote and what is your reaction to that outcome? >> i voted to keep guantanamo open, to full it support it, to not allow the president to bring prisoners to the u.s. i think many of our own people have done harm to the country by the constant criticism of guantanamo. it's better than any american
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prison facility i've ever seen. >> congressman peter king, it is a busy day. also want to wish you a happy father's day. >> thank you very much. thank you. a deck at a sports bar in miami collapsed last night sending dozens of people into the biscayne bay. at least 24 people were rushed to the hospital, two in serious condition. about 100 were on the deck watching the nba finals between the spurs and miami heat. >> i saw that everything the deck just go -- go down. >> it was probably first quarter of the game and we heard a loud boom, a loud noise. we didn't know what it was and when we turned around it was -- we were probably about ten feet from it and when we looked, it was part of the deck just caved in. there was a huge splash. there was people in the water. everything, tables, planters
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a sign of things to come from the 42nd president of the united states on the legislative hurdles that could keep immigration reform from crossing the current president's desk. joining me now for our daily fix, alex wagner, host of "now" with alex wagner. here on msnbc, fresh off her interview with president clinton. "washington post" editorial writer ruth marcus, and nbc senior political editor mark murray who's live at the faith in freedom coalition conference which is right here in washington, d.c. thanks, all, for joining me this afternoon. alex, start with you an your interview with former president bill clinton. congratulations. i want to play one more sound bite and then get you to respond on the other side. take a listen. >> i think in the end, the speaker's big decision will be what it always is -- will he allow a bill to be brought to the floor of the house that does not have the support of a majority of his own caucus but clearly would get a big
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bipartisan majority in the house. every time he's done that something good's happened. when he did that we passed the violence against women act. and i think he he understands that it's an important issue for america, it is an important issue for the republican party if they want to be competitive with all the young immigrants in our country. >> alex, he seemed to strike a moderately optimistic tone but there are real hurdled, including border security. what was your take on what the president was saying? >> the president seemed, in his words, like 55% bullish that immigration reform is going to happen. and he spoke to the hastert rule which is whether or not john boehner introduces legislation to the floor of the house that doesn't have the support of the majority of the majority. he has broken that multiple times this year already and i would tend to agree with the president that -- president clinton that it has been to the benefit of the american public but you can see even in this week alone that boehner is really conflicted by that. earlier this week he said yes,
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definitely, we are going to get immigration reform passed, a bill on the president's desk. it seems to sort of mitigate those comments, walk them back a little bit, because he is in this position, which he has been in for quite some time, between a very restive, very vocal conservative minority and a party that wants to move forward on a piece of legislation that will stand in much better stead with the american public in years and elections to come. >> certainly going to be a big issue in 2016. speaking of which, mark murray is at the faith in freedom conference in washington. so mark, what are some of the themes? is immigration one of the big themes that they are talking about there? what are your take-aways at this point? zblim grags has definitely come up. jeb bush was one of the speakers today. it was the second day of the faith in freedom coalition conference here. he was talking about how the republican party needs to embrace it for economic reasons. there was also another panel that happened just earlier today. it was talking about how
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conservatives, even if you are opposed to immigration reform, how do you talk about it in a better way. we heard from jeb bush. we ended up hearing also from paul ryan, who is the republican vice presidential running mate in 2012. later tonight you're going to hear from other luminaries. saturday comes sarah palin as well as herman cain. a lot of focus on 2016 but one other thing worth noting -- it is almost a tale of two different 2016 gatherings. the faith in freedom coalition where almost all the republicans are today or yesterday or tomorrow, and then you have what's going on in chicago at the clinton global initiative. >> that takes me to my next point, mark. chris christie at the clinton global initiative. i want to play a little bit of what former president clinton had to say about that political calculation. >> in the culture of the northeast, if you're a republican and you want to get elected and get re-elected bipartisanship is imperative.
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>> so ruth, i want to bring you in now. what do you make of chris christie being at cgi right now? is this a smart political calculation, a play for bipartisanship or does it get him into trouble with his own party? >> it could be both, right? so on the one hand, let's assume for the moment that he's interested in running for president in 2016 because it is much more fun to assume that. so he is going to have to run the gauntlet of the primary process which obviously would move you more to the faith in freedom side of spending your time this week than to the clinton global initiative side. on the other hand, the chris christie brand for the reasons in new jersey politics that president clinton said, and actually looking forward to the possibility of winning a general election campaign, chris christie brand is more moderate, is a little bit roguish and a little bit more centrist and so who better to align himself with than this extraordinarily
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popular ex-president and somebody who you never know, he could be running against. i think it is a pretty smart move but not without some downside to it. >> mark, ruth is calling it a smart move. on the other hand, if you look at the polls, christie's not doing too well in the polls, at least among his other potential republican rivals. so is this a smart calculation, do you think? >> i'm a big believer that first things first. you have to win re-election in 2013 particularly in a state like new jersey, a state that had some 60% of the vote that went to president obama in 2012. even if the polls show you ahead by 30 points or more, you got to do things. that's why he's embracing bill cl today and he was with president obama a couple weeks ago on the jersey shore. once you win and you win decisively, maybe you can think about 2016. i think that's the calculus from the christie camp. don't put the cart before the
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horse. >> speaking of putting the cart before the horse, we've all been talking a lot about 2016 and what hillary clinton is going to do. alex, you are out there in chicago. she gave a big speech yesterday. really mapped out her own agenda which included early childhood education. so is this to some extent her coming out party? what are you getting? what senses are you getting in terms of what her calculation might be for 2016? >> you can feel the vibrations. i mean, look. it is putting the cart before the horse to some degree but i was speaking with chelsea clinton earlier and we talked about her mom's twitter biography which was hilarious and totally on message. she said every bit of that biography was considered and if you will remember, that biography ends with "tbd." there is definitely a next act on the horizon for hillary clinton. i don't think anybody would be shocked to find out if that act includes running for office. for now it is about building a global profile. i think the whole clinton family
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really believes in the importance of the work they're doing at cgi. i think it is a very legitimate endeavor and one they feel is important for globe as a whole. >> unfortunately, we are out of time. thank you all so much for joining us this afternoon. shifting gears, for the first time firefighters are make progress on the most destructive wildfire in colorado history. lighter winds and a steady stream of air drops have kept the black forest fire outside colorado springs holding it 25 square miles. at least two people have been killed and nearly 380 homes have been destroyed. stay with us, we'll be right back.
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>> although it's been six months, we have not forgotten and we will never forget the ones that have died. this pain is excruciating and unbearable, but thanks to people like you that come out and support us, we are able to get through this. >> carly soto joins me now live. thank you so much, carly, for being with us and i want to again extend my condolences. i know it has been six months but still so painful. so my condolences to you. >> thank you very much. >> carly, you were in d.c. this week talking to members of congress, meeting with the president. what did they say to you about efforts to bring back the legislation that would expand background checks? >> we met with president obama yesterday and vice president biden and they just gave very
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kind words telling us that change might not happen in the mechanics month or it might not happen in the next year but to keep on fighting and that they're behind us 100%. they're not going to give up, and neither are we. >> you and the other newtown families have been so tireless in your outreach. you started with meeting lawmakers back in april, including joe manchin who is one of the authors of the background check bill. what keeps you going, carly? >> knowing that my sister died a hero and knowing that i have to keep fighting for her. the other 25 and everyone else who's been affected by gun violence since. >> do you ever get frustrated with congress? do you ever start to lose your hope, as you move forward? >> it's very frustrated. it's very frustrating to know that 90% of our country wants universal background checks and we vote for these people into congress and we vote for them to
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have -- for our says, to speak up for us. in april i have no idea who they were speaking out for. they obviously were not speaking out for the americans that wanted this. i'm disgusted in them and i am just very angry with them. i can't believe that they have let over 6,000 people now be murdered because of guns and they're not doing anything about it. >> i know you met with some of the members of congress who wound up voting against the background check bill. did they tell you that they were going to do that? were you surprised by their votes? >> going in to this, going into the vote i was actually at the vote and watching people come in and say yes or no. it was very aggravating but, you know, we knew that they weren't going to vote or way. we did try to persuade them as best we can, going in an telling our stories. it just still wasn't good enough for them. they could look newtown families in the face and just pretty much not care that our loved ones
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were brutally murdered in an elementary school. >> carly, governor malloy just announced that he's allocating $750,000 toward building a new sandy hook elementary school. i want to get your reaction to that and get your thoughts about how important it is to you and to your community that you rebuild. >> it's important that after this horrific event that we come up from it, that we don't let this define us, that it's important that they need to be build a new school. i don't even think it was a question in a lot of people's minds. that school is just not a place that anyone should be at. i have just recently actually went into my sister's classroom and its like a horror movie. it was awful to see and i've had nightmares of it. it's a horrible thing. i used to go with her to set up that classroom and to see it completely not the same was
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horrible. >> carly, i want the final word to be about your sister. what are your reflections of her today at six months after that horrific tragedy that happened. >> i miss her more than anything. standing there today, it was very emotional. i couldn't even believe it. i still think that my sister's going to come home and walk in the front door and start joking around with me and pick on me and push me off her when i'm hugging her and my sister's never coming back. my sister was brutally murdered. i will never be able to say i love you to my sister. i will never be able to hug my sister again. >> carly, thank you so much for sharing that with us and our thoughts are with you on this day. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. to mark today's day of remembrance in newtown, president obama sent out this feet asking voters to push their elected officials to act on gun control. "six months ago the tragedy in
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newtown shook us to our core. tell congress today that you're not backing down. heading overseas now. iranian voters are lining up at the polls to cast their ballots for the successor to president ahmadinejad. joining me now from tehran, nbc's ali aruzzi. what can you tell us so far about voter turnout an do you have any expectations at this point for who might win? >> reporter: well, kristin, the morning got off to a very slow start. we were at various polling stations across tehran and there weren't huge crowds. but as the ta got longer, more and more people surged to the polling stations. if you looked into downtown day tehran which represents the working class of iranians, the vote seemed to be split between two hardliners.
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they haven't done themselves any favors by competing against each other because they seem to have split their vote. in the more affluent section of tehran, people had come out in their droves to vote for rohani, the centrist who's back by the leading reformist candidates. many, many people said that they were going to boycott this election but it didn't turn out that way at all. there were huge crowds going down the streets at various polling stations. various people we spoke to in the north of the city said they were going to vote for rohani. there has been so many people out voting that they've now extended the polling stations voting times for another hour from now which is a sign that there is a lot of people still out there trying to get their vote in. >> wow. we're also hearing there are some reports of some irregularities. can you tell us about that, ali? >> yeah. i don't think there was any doubt that there was any fraud or anything. most of the candidates here said that they were very happy with
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the way the election was going. but some discrepancies, some of the candidates who dropped out of the race still have their names on the ballot tickets which caused some confusion and there were some complaints about that. also earlier on this morning, the supreme leader made a reference to secretary kerry's comments a few weeks ago when he said that he thought the election here was going to be fraudulent, the supreme leader said, "he doesn't give a damn what the americans think about these elections, they're for the iranians." as far as that's concerned, i don't think there is any questions of fraud. there was just some irregularities on the ticket. all the candidates said they were happy with the way things went today. >> thank you for that report. we really appreciate it. the george zimmerman trial continues today in sanford, florida. the prosecution and lawyers for mr. zimmerman are in their fifth day of jury selection. judge nelson has agreed to expand the pool to 40 prospective jurors. right now there they're more
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top ranking members of congress, the military and the intelligence community have spoken to the severity of the leaks by edward snowden. a reality that's sparked debate did snowden's actions and any harm they're actually causing. ed pilkington is chief reporter for "the guardian" and he joins us live. thanks for joining us. so what are your thoughts about comments that robert mueller and others are making that these leaks really might be causing some serious damage in terms of their harming our intelligence and our nation? >> the first thing you have to think is how predictable that is. there had been a succession of very aggressive prosecutions of leakers, official leakers, by the obama administration. this would be the seventh really big one that's happened. in each case the line coming out
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of the white house and various government agencies has been this is going to cause terrible damage to the nation, to national security. very rarely is there actually evidence to back that up. look at the actual disclosures that "the guardian" has made in the last ten days. there's been no specifics about any actual intelligence. there's been no details given about how operations are run or led. no names given out either. when they talk about this huge damage, you kind of want so see the evidence behind it. bear in mind, this is a massive, secret scheme with very little oversight and very little checks and balances either from congress or the courts. that's the line they're going to want to put out. they want to keep this stuff secret because it is secret. one of those speed-eating contests.
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we are back and i apologize, we had a little bit of a technical glitch there. ed pilkington rejoins us. thanks for sticking around. i was just making the point that the white house argues that these leaks tip off potential terrorists' hands and let them know what the united states strategy is. what would you say to that argument? >> i would say the white house has a left hand/right hand problem. one hand they say things like that. on the other hand, president obama has made clear that he welcomes the debate that started up as a result of these disclosures. it's kind of an alice in wonderland world where the president tells us, it is great, time to have this debate, long enough now after 9/11 that we can talk about these things, and yet a minute later the other parts of the white house an other agency says, no, no, we mustn't talk about this, this is too dangerous, it is going to damage national security. they really need to get their kind of line sorted out.
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is this good to talk about or is it not? it is impossible to have this debate when everything remains secret. if we're going to open it up, then we have to be able to talk more about some of these difficult issues. >> take us inside "the guardian." is there a lot of buzz right now about what glen greenwald has been foreshadowing that he might have more to leak? >> well, the fact is that glen has said that there is more information coming, there will be more stories. he's actually said he's writing them at the moment and that they are coming shortly. there is that. obviously this is a major story and in any newsroom, in any country in the world, this is what we are here to do. we're here to talk about important public policy issues. yes, we're also. >> do we have a timeline for when that new information might come out? >> only glen has only said he's working on it at the moment. there is no timeline. but i wanted to add that although this is important stuff
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and we're pleased to be in the middle of this debate, we're also very aware that edward snowden himself has put himself on the line. essentially he's torn up his entire life and he said he never expects to go back to america. so we're kind of aware of the difficult position that he's in. we're going to be following that closely. there's no sense of sort of gloating or sort of euphoria around "the guardian" at the moment. >> ed, you have also covered bradley manning who's also been accused of leaking documents. do you expect this to become -- do you expect there to be more leaks like this? talk to us about the comparisons and whether or not you think that there are going to be more bradley mannings and edward snowdens. >> i think both cases are really of their time. bear in mind that bradley manning was in a position of having access to confidential documents. there are about 5 million americans with that access. in the case of edward snowden, he had top-secret access.
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there are about 1 1/2 million americans with access to those kinds of documents. and so even five, ten years ago if you wanted to do a leak, if you were an official and you had some access to documents, you'd have to go to a photocopier and maybe photocopy 20 pages. now within minutes you can download hundreds of thousands of documents which is what bradley manning did. he transmitted them from a barnes & noble in maryland. this can be done very, very easily. there is a major issue facing any government in the world but particularly the american government with such a huge military and such a huge national security infrastructure about how you can tame this information. >> ed pilkington of the gardian, thanks so much. republicans may hold the power in the house but democrats dominated the field during last night's 52nd annual congressional charity baseball game. shutting out the gop 22-0. louisiana democratic congressman cedric richmond pitched seven
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scoreless innings. pretty incredible. while the republicans tallied five errors and only three hits. this is the fifth time in a row that the democrats have beat the republicans in the annual match. always a fun night. we'll be right back. is like hammering. riding against the wind. uphill. every day. we make money on saddles and tubes. but not on bikes. my margins are thinner than these tires. anything that gives me some breathing room makes a difference.
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. . . assad has been rejected by the, we believe, significant majority of his people. that's not a genie that you can put back in the bottle. we don't think there is any way for them to prevail that maintains security for them because the leader has no legitimacy among its people as the white house works out its plan to deliver weapons to the rebels, syria and russia are rejecting the claims that assad used chemical weapons in his war against the opposition. the white house announced president obama will be having a one-on-one meeting with russian president, putin, on the sidelines of next week's g 8
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summit. joining me, former u.s. ambassador to syria, ted, tatoof. you have expressed skepticism about arming the opposition forces. what is your reaction to the news that the president has decided to move forward with arming syria's opposition forces? >> there is a decision to arm. we know very little about what that means. nobody said they were giving them anti-tank weapons or anti-a anti-aircraft weapons. as far as small arms, they get plenty through saudi arabia, turkey and jordan. it is hard to know if this is anything more than a tactical response to the fact that the administration has been under pressure to come up with i afinding on chemical weapons and that the opposition has been in
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disarray of late early indications are that the obama administration is going to deliver small armings and other weapons of that nature. do you think that that is enough to slow down assad and his forces? >> if that's all they are planning to do, no. assad is getting tremendous help from iran, from hezbollah with troops on the ground, plenty of well-trained guerillas and plenty of diplomatic coverage. you mentioned there was going to be a one-on-one at the g-8 between putin and obama. right now, we are the ones that seem to be backing off the idea there should be a peace conference. frankly, the opposition, "a," isn't ready to go and, "b," is playing a very weak hand as you know, one of the other potential strategies that is being discussed is a no-fly zone. ben rhodes talked about that just moments ago. i want to play a little bit of his sound and have you respond on the other side.
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>> sure. >> in syria, when you have a situation where regime forces are int mingled with opposition forces and they are fighting block by block in cities, that's not a problem you can solve from the air. so i think people need to understand that the no-fly zone is not some type of silver bullet. >> so no silver bullet. what do you make of a no-fly zone. how seriously should the obama administration be considering that move? >> i think it is very, very difficult to enforce a no-fly zone without getting drawn in deeper and deeper into the conflict. much has occurred in libya. except, assad is not gadhafi. he has the fullbacking of a professional military that come largely from the same religious secretary as does he. he has strong backing from iran and russia. so, you know, they say in for a dime, in for a dollar. if we get in for a dime, are we willing to go up with the ante.
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>> ted, katuf, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate your insight. which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? ruth marcus is back with us. thanks, ruth, for sticking around. i want to start off by getting your reaction to "the washington post" article today that talks about the president's jupcoming trip to africa estimating it could cost between $60 million to $100 million. this is a presidential trip. what do you make of that report and of those figures? >> it is a lot of money but i really think for people to criticize the president or the white house for spending, quote, unquote, too much money on a presidential trip. number one, we want our presidents to travel. we particularly want them to travel to foreign couldn't tris to forge relationships with foreign leaders, to enhance the reputation of america abroad. this is one of the ways we do
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it. presidential travel costs a lot of money. that just goes with the territory. we also want them to be protected. >> ruth marcus, as always, thank you for your view. we'll be watching that trip very closely and checking back in with you about it. well, that does it for this addition of ""andrea mitchell reports."" tamron hall has a look at what's next. great job. the obama administration says u.s. weapons for syrian rebels will be in the region soon. still, no specifics on the types of weapons and why that's relevant. we'll talk to nbc's amin abadin who has covered the region extensively. 2016 contender, jeb bush, sparks instant criticism after saying, immigrants are, quote, more fertile, than native-born americans. what he was trying to say with those remarks. we will bring you the reaction.
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or an annual fee, ever. go to citi.com/simplicity to apply. hi, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the news the nation is following new details concerning the direct military support the u.s. plans to give to syrian rebels. president obama did not comment himself a couple of hours ago as he hosted a white house luncheon ahead of father's day. he left it again to deputy national security adviser, ben rhodes, who made yesterday's announcement regarding arming of the syrian rebels. we're just not going to be able to get into that level of detail about the type of assistance we provide publicly here. in terms of time lines, this has been -- we've established these pipelines. i think you should see this as a continuum. so there is already material that has been flowing into the