correct? >> yes. >> and you did not for purpose of the record hear that, correct? >> no. >> in fact what mr. o'mara, he pounded on the cement you did not hear that either? >> no. >> one of the interviews mr. o'mara asked you about ground and pound. >> correct. >> you recall that. could it be that it was investigator sorrino used the words ground and pound and not you? >> i believe it was me, because it was in my initial statement as well. >> so you initially in the original statement to the officer put ground and pound? >> possibly. >> you know i'm going to show you this and -- may i approach

the witness, your honor? >> we should have it marked for identification as an exhibit. give me a paper here. it's marked for identification purposes. >> i've seen it, yes, thank you. >> may i approach the witness your honor? >> yes, you may. >> i'll show you what's been marked for identification purposes 25. >> this should be 2s. >> sorry, 2s i apologize. just read it and see if you use the words ground and pound there.

>> is this impeachment your honor? i don't know what's going on. >> i don't know if it's impeachment or recollection. >> we'll see where it goes. >> i say "ground getting hit." >> but would you agree that in that interview with the first officer, you did not use the words "ground and pound"? >> it wasn't an interview, it was a written statement. >> i apologize. >> so by the time i probably gave my testimony to sorrino i might have thought about that's what it looked like to give a better description. >> yes, sir.

and you believe that you used the words ground and pound in the better description to sorrino. is that correct? >> i believe that's better described, yes. >> okay, so you elaborated a little bit more from the first, correct? >> yes. >> and you elaborated a little more in deposition, too, correct? >> i clarified. >> you had to clarify certain things, would that be accurate? >> yes. >> why was it you felt important to clarify? >> to give a better visual. >> now let me have a moment, your honor. i apologize. i'm going to ask you a few questions and then we'll come back to that if we could. the porch light just to clarify, it's not on the ceiling. it's actually outside and attached to the wall but it's

high up. >> it's like right at the cat i catty-corner in the ceiling. >> it illuminates without into the yard? >> i wouldn't say out into the yard but it definitely illuminates that patio area. >> the concrete slab? >> correct. >> okay. i'm going to have another object marked for identification. you mentioned an interview you gave to sorrino and that was on february 26. >> sorry, could you just identify the document?

i think if there are questions about this i would ask the audio be used as impeachment and refreshing and the reason why is because -- >> if there is an objection i need to hear the objection and i don't do speaking objections. >> okay. so i'm going to be precise. improper foundation. >> okay. he hasn't even had it identified. can we wait for that? don't answer any questions

regarding that, but if you need him to identify it, you may do so. >> may i approach counsel for a second? >> yes. >> again, this is thomas roberts in new york and i've got legal experts faith jenkins and lisa bloom joining me on set. lisa let me start with you, what are we watching here as the dialogue goes back and forth with the redirect here from de la rionda? >> it is extraordinary. john good was a prosecution witness, scored big points for the defense on cross-examination. now we're on redirect, watching the prosecutor essentially cross-examining his own witness trying to minimize the effect of his testimony. >> real quickly, faith, the prosecution wanted to bring this witness forward, so as not to make him look as if he were a viable good defense witness. >> right, they wanted to sort of beat the defense to the punch. they knew john good existed, knew what his testimony would be so they put him on the witness stand so the defense couldn't come back and say they were trying to hide his testimony

because it wasn't good for them. >> let's go back in and listen to the redirect. >> correct. >> okay, did you mean to imply there was blows inflected like they do on mma? >> correct. >> but did you actually see those blows going -- >> i only saw downward movement. >> you can't say there was blows inflicted on the person on the ground. >> i could not see that. >> you also were asked one, two or three times you heard the word "help." you believe it was the person on the bottom is that correct? >> i believe. >> you're not 100% sure but you believe just because the person on the bottom would be the one yelling for help? >> correct. >> is that what your conclusion or common sense or assumptions is based on? >> and that's when i first saw the person on the bottom, yes. >> now, and you said also because i think if you felt the person on the top was yelling for help that it would not have

been, you would -- it would not have come toward you, in other words the voice would not have carried towards where you are, correct? >> yes. >> so could it be that the person on top was yelling help and since he was face up, face down, it would have been towards the ground and not you? >> i object on speculation. >> he can testify as to what he has actually seen. >> i didn't see anyone's mouth moving, so no, i can't confirm that. >> you can't say that the person on the top was yelling for help but his voice would have gone into the ground and you would not have been able to hear that. you can't say he wasn't yelling for help. >> that would have sound muffled i would think. >> did you hear that? >> i didn't hear a muffled help, no. >> and you never saw the person on the bottom's hands in terms of whether he had a gun or not at that time, you couldn't say? >> no. >> you couldn't say one way or the other, correct? >> no.

>> and did i understand you correctly when you responded to mr. o'mara's question that you can't say whether the person on the bottom was trying to get up, correct? you can't say whether he was or not. he may have been. you don't know. >> i stated the person on the bottom was probably trying to get up but i couldn't confirm that. anyone on the bottom i would think would be trying to get up. >> just from common sense? >> correct. >> correct? >> correct. >> in several statements that you gave, i know you gave several statements, i guess you felt the need or you weren't either asked questions to specify certain things that you later were asked, correct? is that correct? >> correct. >> by the investigating agents or whoever, correct? >> correct. >> or you felt the need you needed to clarify or elaborate on certain things? >> yes, the words weren't put in my mouth, yes.

>> does that mean that you were lying originally with what you said to the final statements that you gave? >> can you repeat that? >> does that mean that when you had to clarify or elaborate from the original statement you gave to the final statements that you gave that you were lying originally? >> lying? >> yes, does that mean in the original you were lying? >> no. >> because you didn't clarify or you didn't elaborate does that mean the original you were lying because you weren't asked a certain question? >> no, it was just the question was omitted, never asked. >> the question was never asked of you? >> correct. >> if i may have a moment. >> yes, you may. >> state's exhibit 77.

>> may i approach the witness? >> you may. >> you mentioned toward the ends of cross-examination that you had gone upstairs and i think you said you looked out and you saw what you now know is the victim, trayvon martin on the ground. is that correct? >> correct. >> at some point you saw the person you now know is the defendant, mr. zimmerman, standing up, correct? >> correct. >> and then you saw one or two guys with flashlights. >> correct. >> do you remember that? >> yes. >> let me show you state's exhibit 77, you recall when you look out like that? >> no, it was the opposite view so i would be looking the opposite way but yes, the body did look like that. >> the body looked in this position. >> if i was standing over there looking that way, yes.

>> okay. my point is the body was face down. >> face down, yes. >> your honor may i publish that to the jury? >> yes, you may.

>> and mr. good, state's exhibit 7 your vantage point would have been different but the body was in this position, in other words face down? >> correct. >> you've talked a lot about mma. are you mma trained at all? >> i don't think i'm in shape to do that, no. >> and do you know whether either mr. zimmerman or mr. martin were mma trained at all? >> i didn't know either people. >> thank you, no further questions. >> just a few areas. >> do we need, anybody need a break? yes? okay. can we -- >> it will be five or ten minutes. >> can you wait? >> your call. >> i'll talk to the jury not you, go ahead. >> i'm sorry your honor. if i may have this marked, you

marked it? >> yes. >> it's state 2s. okay, may i approach the witness? >> yes, you may. >> is that your, is this a copy of your statement given that night most contemporaneous with what was happening? >> yes. >> is that the document that you were questioned about as far as what words you used and how you wrote down what you perceived the first opportunity that you had to perceive it? >> i wasn't questioned about it but i was given it to write a statement. >> and that is accurate, is it not, as you wrote that night? >> from what i saw that night, yes. >> i move this into evidence your honor as our next exhibit. >> same objection, your honor. >> please approach. >> so the side bar right now the judge, faith jenkins and lisa

bloom are here watching this with me. faith, let me start with you. the witness that's on the stand right now, john good, living in this neighborhood, a newly w ln his wife didn't want him to go outside. he was able to witness and hear things that night. the biggest detail he is giving is believing the fact that he thought he saw trayvon martin on top of george zimmerman. >> right, which is the direct opposite of what a witness testified yesterday when she said she believes she saw george zimmerman on top of trayvon martin. that's why you see the prosecutor going so hard against this witness. this is really the only witness -- no one saw this from beginning to end. it was dark outside. it was raining. all the witnesses that have come forward have is sort of added a little piece of the puzzle that the prosecutor is trying to put together but this witness, this witness is the most helpful one to the defense because he describes this ground and pound, and that trayvon martin was the one on top of george zimmerman giving him this beating that would justify george zimmerman having to use his gun to shoot

in self-defense to save his life. >> ladies, i want to ask to you stand by quickly. daryl parks, the attorney for trayvon martin's family, we have mr. parks with us. sir, let me get your reaction to this witness and how trayvon martin's family is doing as this is now going into the 15th day. >> well the family is, they're listening. they're watching what's taken place. they're very encouraged by what the prosecution's done so far, but as it relates to this witness today mr. good, i think he has not hurt them much in this case particularly although they tried to say he saw george zimmerman on top, he's also testified that he saw the person on top holding the person down, but also he does not describe the very graphic situation on the concrete that they had hoped. remember, in opening statement, don west said that he used the concrete as a weapon, and based on what i've heard so far here today it doesn't appear there was anything that would have put

mr. zimmerman's life in danger. remember, this is a self-defense claim that he has to prove so unless he can prove there was eminent danger to him which i have heard nothing today that would demonstrate that he should have been in fear of his life, given the fight that was taking place on the grass. >> one thing that's gotten a lot of conversation, mr. parks, is the prosecution's key witness, maybe the star witness in all of this, rachel jeantel, who was on the stand for two days in a row. jurors took her testimony, listening intently to this 19-year-old who happened to be on the phone with trayvon martin right before he died. the questioning was pretty hard at times and there was a tense back and forth, i want to remind everybody. >> trayvon got hit -- >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he could -- he had to. >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face. >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir.

>> was she a consistent witness on the stand, mr. parks? did she help the prosecution's case? >> i think she helped the prosecution. what's important here is that she stayed with her core testimony. yes they tried to use some collateral issues to try and impeach her. she stayed with her court testimony. i want you to compare, because the witness today mr. good had a situation where some things evolved in his testimony, right, and i think that as this jury considers how they weigh the witnesses they will have to consider her in the same way they consider mr. good where he in his testimony indicated that as things progressed, as he gave more statements, more things come to mind. the one thing about a case like this one, the jury will be instructed don't leave your common sense at home. and so they'll be able to use their common sense to judge these things that they've heard and to determine whether or not of her brevity toward them and her testimony and most importantly holding to the core things she said in this case. number one that trayvon said he was being followed. number two, that the guy was up

on and trayvon was in fear. trayvon said "this guy is creepy." he describes the guy as creepy so those things are important as it relates to veigh von's mind-set fearing george zimmerman and the fact that george zimmerman was following trayvon and profiled him. >> mr. parks i want to jump off of that. there was more to the description of just being creepy. take a listen to how rachel said trayvon described him. oh, we don't have that, excuse me. let me read it out, she described when they were asked whether or not this was a racial element to this, describing the person as what made you think it was racial, she said yes because he described him as creepy ass cracker. yes, so it was racial but it was because trayvon put race in it and she said no. is trayvon martin being put on trial here? >> think about her answer, she said no. the other part of it you have to

say she describes trayvon describing zimmerman with the "n" word so it's a matter of slang he used in the course of it in describing mr. zimmerman, he used the "c" word and the "n" word describing mr. zimmerman. you have to go back to the fact that george zimmerman is the person that saw trayvon, described him as suspicious, described him as black, described him as being on drugs or something, and he decided, so the mind-set of george zimmerman is the real initiator of what happened on this night and you have to remember that because you can try to move the ball to trayvon but trayvon was not following george zimmerman. we know that for sure. >> mr. parks thanks for making time for me. i want to take everybody back inside the courtroom as mark o'mara has gone back to asking questions of john good. >> chris serino, the investigator, that was a page and a half, correct? >> i think it was audio. >> telephone and it was

transcribed, and another one with fdle that was much longer. >> correct. >> in all of those statements included some facts that were added to one or just not added to the other, correct? it's because of the way the questions were being asked? >> i don't know about facts but they needed more clarification. >> sure. and then of course we took your deposition and i think that was 50 pages or so, correct? >> correct. >> and again, we asked you questions and you just answered the questions as best you can. >> correct. >> and mr. de la rionda wants the jury to understand just the fact you have statement one, statement two, statement three and statement four that are not all exactly the same, that you weren't lying, were you? >> no. >> okay, you've just answered the questions that were being asked, right? >> correct, some had more than the other ones. >> as best as you could remember of that event back then, correct? >> correct. >> and you even said that the

adrenalin was flowing, wasn't it in. >> yes. >> it was an event where you sort of hyperfocus on what was happening once you realized it was serious? >> for a few seconds and turned and went back inside, yes. >> sure. called 911, not something you do every day, right? >> after that, yes, but yeah. >> it was really sort of a traumatic event for to you go through to see what you saw enough to call 911, wasn't it? >> it was enough for what i saw to call 911, yes. >> okay. so as you recounted the story time and time and time again, things became more expanded as you were asked those questions? >> yes, but i believe the groundwork stayed the same. >> sure, the groundwork you saw two guys outside your house, one was on top beating the other one up. that pretty much stayed

consistent, didn't it? >> i clarified that i could not actually see punches but yes it looked like, yes. back to clarification, back to clarifying, yes. >> the guy with red was always on the bottom. >> correct. >> that never changed? >> that never changed. >> and the, just to clarify what was actually talked about with chris serino, investigator serino during this what we're going to call it for a moment the ground and pound conversation, we have a rule called completeness so what i want to do is put it in context for you and ask you if this is what you said to chris serino, okay? "yeah, i pretty much heard someone yelling outside. i incumbent' sure who it was, you know, a fight or something going wrong so i opened my blinds and i see kind of like a person out there. i didn't know if it was a dog attack or something so i opened my door, there was a black man

with a black hoodie on top of the other either a white guy or now i found out i think it was a hispanic guy with a red sweatshirt on the ground yelling out help, uhm, and then you know i tried to tell them, you know, get out of here, you know, stop or whatever, and then, uhm, one guy on top in the black hoodie was pretty much just throwing down blows on the guy kinda mma style." was that the context in which that happened? >> yes. >> and then investigator serino said a word that i have in the transcripts may differ, "ground" couldn't figure it, maybe he said ground and pound, and then you said, "yeah, like a ground and pound on the concrete at this point, so at this point i told him i'm calling 911." >> objection, improper bolstering. >> i'm at the end of it. >> there is an objection and the objection is? >> hearsay and improper

bolstering. >> i would suggest rule 108 which is the rule of completeness suggests since they brought in part of it, and i'm speaking, i apologize. >> the objection as to hearsay is overruled. bolster something not the right objection either so that's overruled. >> beyond the scope of cross-examination. >> overruled. i'm overruling that objection also, go ahead. >> that's what you said, right? >> you're speaking about the whole thing, yes. >> that was the context in which the words ground and pound came out? >> yes, for more clarification. >> okay, and do you stand by that today, that what you saw was a ground and pound event? >> it looked like that position was a ground and pound type position but i couldn't tell 100% that there was actually fists hitting faces. >> but you did see the guy on the top in the black hoodie pretty much just throwing down blows and the guy kind of mma

style. >> meaning arm motion going down towards the person on the bottom, correct. >> you're not going to tell the jury here today you saw fist hit flesh on face if you didn't actually see it, right? >> i wouldn't tell them that anyways because i didn't see it. >> great, thanks very much. nothing further. >> the thing mr. o'mara, the bottom line you needed to clarify it after that to make sure that everybody understood that you did not hear or see fists, the guy on top hitting the guy on the bottom. is that correct? >> both sides made me clarify. >> is that correct? >> correct. >> you did not see blows on the guy on the bottom. correct? >> correct. >> thank you, no further questions. >> thank you, may mr. good be excused? >> thank you your honor. >> your honor he is under subpoena for today, if i might, at this hour i'd like him to stay so that i can talk to him at lunch. >> okay. you're excused from the courtroom but please remain outside in one of the witness

rooms so counsel can speak with you. thank you. >> seems as if we're wrapping up the morning testimony as the judge is asking if the lunch is here, i assume she's asking for the jurors so they're going to take a break so we might get the wrap on testimony for this morning. we've been listening to john good who was a neighbor who was living close by to the area where trayvon martin and george zimmerman got into a fight the night that george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin. lisa bloom is with me along with faith jenkins, both legal experts. ladies as you can tell i'm kind of losing my voice here. lisa, let me start with you. the importance of john good and the clarifications that he gave this morning. >> extremely important witness for the defense. the best witness for the defense so far, and keep in mind we're in the prosecution case. the defense hasn't even put on their own witnesses yet but on cross-examination they got this witness to say, as he had said in prior statements that he saw

george zimmerman in a red jacket down on the ground, trayvon martin in a darker colored jacket on the top straddling him, pounding him, ground and pound mma style. zimmerman was yelling for help and this is moments before the gunshot went off. that's the whole essence of this case, what happened before the gunshot went off. did zimmerman fear for his life. now this was limited to some extent by the prosecution's really cross-examination of their own witness where he said i'm not 100% sure, i can't say to a complete certainty this is what i saw, so he hedged a little bit and he has some prior statements that didn't include all of this information so he has some inconsistencies as well. >> so faith, the language that he's using about mma and the ground and pound, we can all make assumptions about what we think that means but for people that know mma fighting it's extremely violent. >> right, that's why the prosecutor is really going after him over the words that he used because initially he didn't give

that description, in the statement when he wrote a statement that night he didn't use those words but as he continued to give statements, he basically shored up the level of violence he witnessed by using ground and pound mma. so the prosecutor wanted to know why didn't you say that initially when you were asked. it was interesting because the defense came back, o'mara asked him, well you were answering the questions you were asked, right, and you didn't intentionally omit things, but they attacked rachel jeantel yesterday for giving a statement and omitting the word "cracker" initially but later saying it on the witness stand so they're trying to rehabilitate this witness and let him describe and give a reason for why he didn't use those words initially in his initial statement. >> lisa, do you think that we're done with john good, that we'll hear from him again? >> i think we're done with him for now. i think we're going to hear a lot about him in closing arguments, though. >> thanks so much, lisa bloom, faith jenkins, much appreciated. >> thank you. this morning the lives of 11 million undocumented workers

lies in the hands of the u.s. house of representatives, where the prospects they are looking honestly pretty bleak. here's the headline from "talking points memo" senate passes immigration reform bill, hot potato to boehner. standing room only crowd chanted "yes we can" the vote 68-32. the gang of eight bill could provide legal status and a 13-year path to citizenship. guest worker program, and a so-called border surge. now the bipartisan bill in the senate says they have a solution but house majority leader john boehner has his own idea. >> put the bill on the floor and it will pass and many of those who don't want to vote for it on the republican side won't have to. >> the house is not going to take up and vote on whatever the senate passes. we're going to do our own bill through regular order and it will be legislation that reflects the will of our majority and the will of the

american people. >> joining me right now is kentucky democratic congressman john yarmuth, member of the house gang of seven working on immigration. good to have you here. >> thank you, thomas. >> as we know with speaker boehner basically throwing cold water on the senate's version, "the washington post" is reporting, though, that the house has several options here. i want to go over them quickly, the first being strike down the senate bill and draft one like it, the other option, introduce its own comprehensive bill and option three, consider separate immigration bills that combine them into one package in and of itself. what speaker boehner is saying he won't even bring this to the floor without the hastert rule in effect, do you think there really is a path for what the senate sent over for what the house can do now? >> well, i actually do think that the house will take separate action. i don't think the senate bill does have much of a chance, even though the comprehensive package that our group has developed which we're going to be releasing very shortly deals with many of the same issues in

very similar ways, so on many of the issues there's not a substantial difference between house and senate. clearly we all knew and it was a guiding principle of our work that nothing that we came out with could be to the left of the senate's bill or it was going to be a nonstarter in the house. we're still very optimistic. this is a unique situation in which there is a wide array of outside interests that never work together and never agree that are now in agreement on a comprehensive package. >> one thing we're watching, sir, the clock tick down as the year goes away and we get closer to your recess. july 10th is the big day when the house republican caucus will meet in the capitol basement to hash this out. gop aides are reportedly skeptical any amount of border security will be enough to get a majority of republicans to support the immigration bill so if you were advising speaker boehner, what would you tell him to do to prevent his caucus from making a move that would alienate hispanic voters?

>> i think speaker boehner is very aware of the dynamics facing the prospects in the house. he met last week with the congressional hispanic caucus. they had a productive meeting so he understands where everyone is, where all the cards are on this issue and ultimately he and his conference are going to have to decide what strategy they're going to use. they know first of all that many of their big financial donors are supporting this package, and really the only people who are opposing comprehensive immigration reform are the far right in this country, and they're going to be in a tough spot. mitch mcconnell is worried about a challenge from his right in the republican primary next year but many of the interests that he's supported and supported him over the years want this badly. >> is that the biggest issue, fear and intimidation from the far right tea partiers that are willing to challenge and take away john boehner's speakership? >> that is the only threat to comprehensive immigration reform is the threat of primaries for

republican republicans in many of these house districts. if it's stopped it will be stopped by a small minority of americans. >> congressman john yarmuth thank you for your time. president is on his way from senegal to south africa. will he visit nelson mandela as he hangs on to life in critical but stable condition. keir simmons is life in pretoria, south africa following the latest. what are we hearing about the possibility of a presidential visit with mandela, because i know that mandela's former wife, winnie, came out recently and met with reporters and took a question on that. >> reporter: that's right. though she said winnie mandela she isn't certain whether or not it will happen. she doesn't know about it. that said, one of nelson mandela's daughters say if the doctors say it's okay, it might be a possibility. president obama has said that

we'll see what happens when he gets here on the ground, but as you say, winnie mandela has been talking, about an hour away from here in sowetto and this is what she had to say. >> we are just here to thank you very much for your support and we have no idea of the love out today for us in our particular situation, and if sometimes we sound bitter, it is because we are dealing with a very difficult situation. >> reporter: whether or not president obama comes here it seems to be a possibility but people are waiting to find out of if that might just happen. thomas? >> nbc's keir simmons from pretoria, south africa thanks so much. could lois lerner be hauled back before congress? why it matters, straight ahead. clients are always learning more

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this look like child's play. that's because monday at the behest of texas governor rick perry lawmakers will convene a special session to jam through the abortion bill thanks to the hours long filibuster efforts of pink sneaker wearing hero wendy davis after calling that special session, rick perry proceeded to jab davis for being a teen mom saying this. >> she's the daughter of a single woman. she was a teenage mother herself. she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school, and serve in the texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> just a few hours ago davis responded to those comments on

"morning joe." >> i had the privilege of making a choice about the path i chose for my life, and i'm so proud of my daughters, but i could never for a moment put myself in the shoes of another woman confronting a difficult personal choice and it really isn't for him to make statements like that. >> joining me right now is state senator nina turner, a democrat from ohio in the midst of its one abortion or excuse me, in the midst of its own abortion battle. state senator thanks for being here. >> thanks, thomas. >> talk about what we witnessed out of texas, what's your reaction to rick perry's comments to wendy davis, and basically what they're trying to do with jamming through this abortion bill once again? >> very callous his comments are and how dare he presume to judge her jury and the senator is absolutely right, this is about choice for women.

she is absolutely a shero here in ohio and across the country for standing up for a woman's right to choose. given her journey, we should be celebrating all of her accomplishments instead of trying to be judgmental and telling her what she should be standing for or not as the gove governor is doing. there are a lot of people needing health care in texas he ought to pay attention to that. >> shero is a great term and you introduced a viagra bill for the anti-contraception and governor kasich could sign a restrictive trio of measures. after the measures pass the reaction from those watching from the floor, look at this. >> shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! shame on you! >> heard there from the gallery

saying "shame on you." the measures include the defunding of planned parenthood and a fatal heartbeat amendment. explain your reaction to the governor as he contemplates signing that. >> really thomas my plea to the governor is to line item veto. we do not have filibuster capacity here in ohio, but the governor will have the opportunity to stand up for the women in this state and to say to the women that i support your right to choose, your right to have a relationship with your doctor. we got a lot of elected officials in the state of ohio practicing medicine without a license. this is about high quality health care for women, thomas. that is what this is about and i am hoping the governor has until sunday that he will stand up for women and do the right thing. >> and it's about finding that dynamic about high quality and affordable health care for all women. one thing i want to get your take on the historic blow to the 1964 civil rights act dealt by the court this week, even as the

higher court granted rights to same-sex couples in this country your state was where african-americans won and fought about restriction of blacks from bolstering. do you think this will bolster republicans who want to enact more voting laws in your state? >> in my state yes, most likely. they have a super majority in both chambers but it's happening across the country. congressman lewis says the united states court took a dagger through the heart of the voting rights act and we are going backwards and i am as well as others are calling on this congress to stand up and do the right thing and restore that section to the voting rights act. this is about equality and justice for all folks. there are two great equalizers in this nation, one is education and the other is access to the ballot. >> you have big news an announcement you want to make right now? >> oh, thomas, a special announcement on monday, you'll have to have me back for that. >> oh, what a tease. special announcement on monday.

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update on the second-degree murder trial of george zimmerman, that was a state witness john good, a neighbor who lived at the twin lakes and joining me now is msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom. lisa another piece of his testimony that i want to play for everybody is his call and his account of what he remembers for 911. take a listen. >> you hear somebody yelling for help? >> i'm pretty sure the guy was, i think the guy is dead holy [ bleep ]. >> anything else you heard? >> a guy yelling help, oh my god. >> lisa, the impact of this witness is what, because it's very interesting the fact that it seems as if even though he's called by the prosecution it seems as if he's lending to the defense's case. >> you heard the emotional impact the witness said on the

911 call like so many realized a young man has been shot dead outside their home. they're horrified and have a strong reaction but legally speaking this is a very big witness in this trial and a very significant witness for the defense. the prosecution had to call him for completeness. it would look like they were hiding the ball if they didn't and they could start by eliciting testimony and try to limit it. well you can't be 100% sure. he had to say that's true but the essence of this testimony is that just before the gunshot rang out, trayvon martin in a dark sweatshirt was on top, george zimmerman in a red light colored jacket was on the bottom, that mma style trayvon martin was throwing blows although he said he couldn't see flesh connecting with flesh and that zimmerman was calling out for help. that is essentially the defense story. now it's a little bit different because the defense says zimmerman was on the concrete. this witness says he was on the grass and it differs in some ways and his story changed a little bit from prior statements so the prosecution has that to

work with. >> lisa bloom thanks so much. you can watch msnbc tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern with an indepth review of the trial. ms 10:00 eastern. we'll have an in-depth review of the george zimmerman trial. lisa, thanks again. this developing news from capitol hill. the house oversight and government reform committee will vote later today on whether embattled irs official lois lerner waived her fifth amendment right. lawmakers made some powerful arguments to bring her back to testify about the irs and its targeting of tea party groups. >> you don't get to tell your side of the story and then avoid the very process that we have in this system for eliciting the truth, which is cross examination. >> lois learner is in fact the

poster child for thumbing her nose at federal -- a federal bureaucrat thumbing her nose at congress. and i'm telling you, i've absolutely had it with what we've seen. the power of this new estate. it is not in the constitution that there is a fourth branch that can tell us to go to hell. >> joining me now to talk about why this matters, jimmy williams, an msnbc contributor and congressional insider. this is an exchange between congressman issa and congresswoman eleanor holmes norton. >> madam, i apologize but there are some things that cannot be said in an open hearing -- >> now she has waived her constitutional rights. that's a very serious burden to put on us without more information. >> i appreciate. but madam, we were all here or eligible to be here. we have noticed this mark-up pursuant to the committee rules.

the gentle lady had 37 days in which to seek counsel. >> 37 days you noticed this hearing? >> 37 days to seek counsel as to the question of a statement made. >> when did you notice this hearing, mr. chairman? >> the gentle lady's time is expired. i will now recognize the gentleman from south carolina. >> your time is up. well listen to this. we just got this hot note saying the resolution for lois learner waiving her fifth amendment rights when she spoke in front of the committee on may 23rd, that hearing into the irs. they just passed it. a congress from wisconsin responded by saying no, i'm voting no to this mccarthyite tactic. strong words there. what's this do to moving the ball forward? >> nothing. >> this process. >> let's break this down basically for people to understand. the committee has had hearing after hearing. they've released testimony. they've released transcripts.

they've released everything. what did they find to link this to the white house? nothing. what did they find? that they actually did liberal groups, too. what did they find about the guy that actually initiated this sort of review of tea party groups? an indictable conservative. they have nothing to pin on the white house. remember, chairman issa said, i will be able to prove this is white house linked. he has not done that. the only thing they have left is lois lerner. >> on may 23rd -- i'm going to come and plead the gift. after -- plead the fifth. after i do so, zip it. lois lerner's tactic is to plead the fifth, then surprise everybody by making an opening statement saying she did no wrong, as well as answering a question from chairman eye za. >> that's what this committee is debating as we speak. what can they do nothing? try to go after lois lerner i

think is on administrative leave -- no, wait. did she leave the irs? the point is they've got nothing. >> what do you normally do after you plead the fifth? >> you just shut up usually. >> thanks so much. the lone star filibustering state senator gets meme-i-fied. >> her occupation change briefly to the lebron james of filibuster. then the dragon taming army conquering from "game of thrones." and the assassin bride from "kill bill." remember those pink kicks? the amazon page for the sneakers is blowing up with new reviews. >> the next time you have to spend 13 hours on your feet

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no surprise, you let in the mechanics ka knows and before you can say biblioteca, the senate is run by a gang. look at these guys. i wouldn't be surprised if they were smuggling in premium uncut flomax. that's going to wrap things up for me. i'll see you back here next week. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way and the fantastic joy ann reid is filling in. >> we're kind of a gang. gang of two. >> i saw you roaming the halls earlier with susan. >> she's in our gang as well. thank you very much. hello and day five of testimony kicks off in the george zimmerman trial as a witness who lived in the complex where trayvon martin was killed takes the stand. we'll have all the latist from the courtroom and analysis from lisa bloom and msnbc.com's tramaine lee. plus, the senate may be celebrating the path to comprehensive immigration reform but the question on everybody's

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[ doorbell rings ] ...and let the good life in. in the zimmerman trial, the focus shifts to the fight that ended trayvon martin's life. it's friday, june 28th, and this is "now." i'm joy reid in for alex wagner. we're following the fifth day of testimony in the george zimmerman trial. zimmerman is facing charges of second degree murder in the shooting of trayvon martin and has pleaded not guilty claiming self-defense. this morning, john goode who lived in the gated community where the shooting took place testified that he saw part of the struggle between martin and zimmerman. the defense used this witness to establish two points. one, that he identifie