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out of control hoarding. >> you think, wow, why am i doing this? i need to stop. >> leaves a mother and daughter overwhelmed. >> it's very, very chaotic and stressful. >> this is hoarding. >> a real estate investor finds a real steal. >> there's no way anybody could live in the house. >> and gets more than he bargained for. >> you couldn't walk around. you had to climb over it. >> a race against the clock. >> turned out to be 700 cats on the property. >> to save hundreds of lives. >> they were really, really sick and really malnourished. >> and when the experts step. in -- >> a stinky rotten mess. >> even they can't believe their eyes. >> what i saw would make anybody want to vomit.
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caught on camera -- "hoarding." hello. i'm contessa brewer. welcome to "caught on camera." if you're like me from time to time you look around your home and think, what a mess. maybe some dirty dishes in the sink, a pile of laundry on the floor or a big stack of papers on the kitchen counter. eventually most of us clean, fold and file our way back to at least presentable. but for hoarders clutter crosses a line from untidy to out of control, and the mess becomes a monster taking over their lives. from the outside it looks like a typical home in an ordinary suburban neighborhood, but go inside and you'll witness a shocking sight. rooms stuffed to the rafters with clutter and debris. >> it's very, very chaotic and stressful.
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>> in california 27-year-old jessica, who asked that her last name not be revealed, lives with her mother, an admitted hoarder. >> i would describe it as bad. it's not an environment that's comfortable to be in. >> after living on her own for more than a year, jessica moves back home to save money and help her mom with her worsening condition. the transition to such deplorable conditions takes a toll. >> it's been very difficult. i grew very accustomed to having kind of a minimalistic existence in my apartment. not having a lot of stuff. and being able to clean my apartment from top to bottom in maybe an hour and a half, where cleaning everything could take days or weeks or it's not an easy process. you don't have control over where you can move stuff or what you do with stuff or what stuff stays and what stuff goes. so it's been stressful. >> dr. samantha morrison, a licensed psychologist, specializes in compulsive hoarding.
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>> by definition it includes three components. there is the acquisition or failure to discard a large number of possessions. an inability to use your home for its intended purposes due to the clutter. the third part of it is significant distress or impairment in your life. >> jessica gives our cameras a revealing look inside the house and mind of a hoarder. >> this is the entryway to my mother's house. in this room is antique lamps, boxes of blankets and sleeping bags that have been there for over a year and boxes upon boxes of books. coloring books, academic books, journals, all sort of electronics, workout gear, a piano and all sorts of antiques and tvs. this room is intended to be my mother's office at some point. office supplies, her paper, her printers. she needed a place to put it, and this is where it fit, but for the most part it's all
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office supplies foies for meanty in her office. >> this is the pink room. originally it was my niece's bedroom. in it are her bed, toys, baby clothes, and my mother has filled it with soft textured items. she's got blankets, jackets, comforters, clothe, pom poms and still my niece's toys as well as other things that she's bought for my niece to play with. it's pink because that was the color my niece picked for the room when she was a little girl. at one point this room was completely cleaned, and it was used as bedroom, solely as a bedroom and a play room. this was my room for 25 years. and it was always kept clean. and after i moved out, my sister moved in, and after she moved out, the hoard moved in. it started off with stuff in the middle. i don't even know what that stuff was, but it was added on to. this room has become a catch-all. and it's just stuff that doesn't have a home, that she can't figure out what she wants to do with comes here.
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and it's like a tomb enshrining the hoard. it just sits here. a lot of the boxes she moved from other places in here. she'll take stuff out, and she'll put stuff back in. >> and among the stuff, 11 cats have free reign of the house. >> they're fuzzy pets, they leave hair, and they scratch on things and that leaves little bits everywhere. it adds up quickly to equaling a big mess. if it's not kept on top of constantly, it can very easily get out of hand. she bonds with them. she develops a relationship with them. and i think that that does contribute to the hoarding because then it attaches an extreme value to the pet. greater than most people would attach to that pet. so it makes it harder to part with them, yeah. but she doesn't go out and actively seek them and bring them in. she just keeps them if they show up. >> she finds the conditions so intolerable she seeks refuge in an isolated bedroom in their
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home. >> it's at the far end of the house. i've separated myself off from the house with a heavy duty shower curtain and baby gate to keep the barrier between myself and the rest of the house. i keep everything in my room now, all my personal belongings because if i leave them out they'll get destroyed and they will get destroyed very quickly. either stuff will get put on top of it and it will get crushed. her pets might get hold of it or destroy it. things will get dirty. >> the pets also contribute to something that isn't caught on camera. a smothering, noxious odor permeates most of the home. the overwhelming smell of ammonia from cat urine combined with pet hair makes breathing difficult. unlike other areas, the air in jessica's room is much cleaner. >> it doesn't hurt to breathe in this room. your eyes don't burn. your nostrils don't burn, your throat doesn't suddenly hurt. you don't feel like someone's sitting on your chest. >> with the house in such disorder, jessica finds day-to-day life mentally draining and physically exhausting.
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>> it takes ten times more work and effort to do simple things than it should take. to take a shower, you have to get all your stuff from your bedroom, make sure you have your flip-flops on, step over your baby gate, walk to the other end of the house. i don't walk around bare foot. i don't want stuff on my feet. it just flat-out grosses me out. to cook anything, i have to go to my fridge in my room, get everything i needed, get all my utensils and bring it into the kitchen to prepare my food, then clean it and take it all back to my room. to sweep and mop, i have to do a quarter to a third of a room at a time. i have to move everything away from where i want to mop, which can take 45 minutes to an hour sometimes. mop, wait for it to dry, put it all back and then do the next section. it's very exhausting and very stressful. >> to an outsider, the solution seems easy -- clean it up.
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but with a hoarder, it's just not that simple. >> you don't move stuff. she would be very hurt. first of all, she'd be angry. she'd be hurt at the disrespect to her and her things. she'd be ashamed. it would be kind of like her worst fears coming true right then and there. it would just make the problem worse because it would make her more defensive of everything else and would make her fight harder to keep it. >> dr. morrison has not treated jessica's mother but has dealt with many similar cases. >> if you were to go into the home of someone who hoards and you were to clean out everything, not only would that make the person incredibly vulnerable and distressed but it would not solve the problem. and in fact the person would just rehoard and reclutter right away. the first step is to have them get the motivation to want this. >> looking at all the seemingly unmovable pile, jessica worries about the future. >> just walking through the house and seeing everything
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that's here and wondering is she going to be able to conquer this? is she going to get through this or am i going to be stuck handling this one day? is this going to be her legacy? >> coming up, jessica's mother in her own words. >> it's daunting. and you think i need to go through this, it will take forever. so wof the house?hink it's got a great kitchen, but did you see the school rating? oh, you're right. hey babe, i got to go. bye daddy! ...but what about when my parents visit? ok. i just love this one... and it's next to a park i love it i love it too. here's our new house... daddy! you're not just looking for a house.
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27-year-old jessica lives with her mother who is struggling with a hoarding disorder. over the years, stacks and piles of clutter have taken over almost every part of their home. >> it started with newspapers. then it just kind of grew from there. from newspapers it went to books, then maybe from books it went to baskets or from baskets it went to candles or just suddenly started having collections of things. it was like the flavor of the month. what are we collecting this year? >> jessica can hardly recall a time when the house was in order. >> some of my earliest memories were getting yelled at because
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she couldn't find something and thoud we'd moved it or threw it away. and having this huge fight or tantrum because she misplaced something and later finding it. >> at the time i didn't have a clue. i would say, okay, well, i need to do something. >> because her condition is not widely known, jessica's mother prefers not to reveal her identity. >> i guess it's not the characteristic i want to be known for. >> working with children, jessica's mother also has concerns about how her hoarding might impact her career in education. >> it's very important to me to be professional in my job capacity. and when i meet with the clients or meet with the other educators, that's what i want them to take away and think that, oh, she's very professional. she does a very good job. we can depend upon her. not, oh, my god. you know, have you seen -- oh, my god. >> jessica's mother says her hoarding tendencies can be tracked back to her college
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years but it isn't until the sudden death of her husband in 2001 that a tendency become a compulsion. >> went way over the edge. you do the grief counseling, you do all the things you think you should. sometimes it doesn't help. what i found was i would go to work and come home and just want to cocoon myself. i just didn't want to deal with anything. >> in the cases of somebody, a spouse passing away, you have kind of two complicated issues because now you're more alone, you're more isolated and you fill things up with stuff. a lot of times people with compulsive hoarding don't trust their memory. so they're afraid that they're going to lose whatever association or connectedness they had to the individual that they lost. >> early efforts to seek help from psychiatrists are unsuccessful. >> i never had the feeling that they really grasped what i was trying to say and they really understood. and you know, it was really futile. and thousands of dollars for nothing. and you realize, well, this person's not helping me. so you go to the next one.
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they're not helping me, you go to somebody else. they're not helping me. it eventually becomes apparent i can spend a lot of time playing who is the right person or i can call it quits and try and do this on my own. and that's extremely difficult. it's overwhelming. the anxiety is just amazing. and you think, wow, why am i doing this? and i need to stop. >> jessica has also been unable to secure long-term professional counseling for her mom. >> a lot of them don't want to come to your house. they don't want to see firsthand. they don't want to get in there. and not necessarily get their hands dirty and helping them clean, but get their hands dirty in the sense of while they're throwing this tantrum, talking to them and seeing what's going on and addressing what is causing this. and that seems to be the biggest problem we've had with finding help. >> but without immediate answers, the hoarding continues. >> part of it and the feeling you fight against is the idea that, okay, this is mine. i bought this.
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i have the control over it. and now somebody's telling me that i need to get rid of this and i need to let go. it becomes an issue more of control than perhaps emotional attachment. >> i think it's just the issue of letting it go. i think she feels that when she lets it go, she loses a little bit of control over the item. she doesn't realize the control she has to let it go is much greater. >> for years, the hoarding strains jessica's relationship with her mother, but more recently, the two commit to tackling the problem together without professional help. >> it was you have an issue and you need help. no, i don't. i'm perfectly fine. no, you really do have a problem. and you really do need help. when she got there and admitted it, it was like this huge giant step. she understands there's an issue. now we have to get on the long road to addressing it and trying to fix this and fix this behavior and fix this mentality. and pushing her, you know, when she doesn't want to go any more. >> jessica acknowledges progress
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has been made, but there's still a long way to go. >> this is probably 75% of what it was about a year ago. used to be completely filled with boxes that were up to your waist and they went higher as they went back. >> i'm not sure i would have made as much progress as i have. i think it would have been much easier to side step it and find something else that was less distasteful to do and not as difficult. this is very difficult process. so if it were just me by myself, there wouldn't be as much progress. >> despite her mother's recent efforts to change her life, the hoarding has also had an effect on jessica. >> i started seeing reactions in myself that i couldn't understand. i was constantly throwing things of my own away and purging my own belongings. stuff i probably would have liked to have kept. and kind of like there has to be other people out here. there has to be someone who's
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talking about this. >> jessica finds great comfort online. she's an active member of the not-for-profit organization children of hoarders and corresponds with others for support. >> even just reading about other people's experiencing, what they're experiencing and if i can't relate, offering my own support. you know, you can get through this. it will be okay. >> as the cleanup continues, jessica remains hopeful. >> i think that she'll get it down to where it's manageable where people say she's just a little bit of a clutter bug. i think she can get it down to that point to where it's a little bit safer for her. so that's the best i can ask for, i guess. >> they have to want to learn how to think differently. how to change their behaviors, understand their pathology. so motivation and getting them to recognize the cost of their hoarding is probably the first step in getting them well. >> i'd rather it was not like this, but it's daunting. you think i need to go through all this. oh, my god, it's going to take
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forever. will i live that long? i really would rather not have to do this today. i'd really rather have a root canal, for crying out loud. but at the same time you look around and think, well, if i don't, it's never going to change. you've got to do something to make it happen. you have to be proactive and remember your goal. coming up -- >> do you want to see hoarding? you're going to see it. >> a real estate investor shocked by what he finds behind closed doors. >> no way, shape or form was it livable. how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours? with thermacare heatwraps. the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. and now, introducing reusable thermacare cold wraps. pain relief without the shock of ice.
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a real estate investor in wisconsin buys a home brimming with clutter but has no idea what lies beneath. >> it was a crap shoot as far as what was underneath everything. >> october 2010 in bloomfield, wisconsin. rick schaeffer purchases a home in foreclosure in a remote lakefront community. >> it's a bunch of old cottages that got converted into homes. kind of in the middle of nowhere. >> not much is known about the previous owner, but for
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schaeffer the price is right even though the house appears to be in shambles. >> i've seen people save things and collect things. but i think in this case, the individual was cleaning the neighborhood, so to speak. >> armed with a video camera to document the scene, schaeffer visits his new property with a friend, david lang, and lang's neighbor ryan lamere. >> you want to see hoarding? you're going to see it. >> looked like a typical house that had neglect. the neighbors had put up a fence on the one side because of what had been there. >> the trees were all overgrown, the bushes. so they were overgrown on the house. there was a car parked outside. it was completely packed with stuff. >> that was overflow from the house. basically when you opened up the door to the car, it was filled to the ceiling. >> they shut the door and then locked it. i'm sure if you were to open it, all that stuff would fall out. looked like stuff you'd find digging through the garbage. >> there was a note in there saying in is my stuff. do not take it. it's not garbage.
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it's my stuff. >> with the camera still rolling the group moves into the neglected home to assess the damage. >> different places in the house had different things. when you initially walked into the house, it was a breezeway between the garage and the actual main house. that area had junk, laundry bottles, every bottle and just things like that. >> i've never seen anything like it in my entire life. this much stuff in such a confined space was mind boggling. it was crazy. >> it was full of i guess you might want to call debris up to the ceiling just about. bags and bags of stuff. dishes, mail and everything you can imagine. as you moved into the kitchen, the kitchen was stacked with dishes and, you know, cooking utensils and pots and pans. >> the nastiest had to be the kitchen because there were a bunch of plates that they were used. they weren't washed. and they were stacked up and spoons and forks and pots and pans that were used and not washed. >> at one point during the survey lang loses sight of his friend rick. >> where are you at?
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>> over here, fella. >> we didn't see him back there at first. he was standing behind where probably the kitchen table would have been. i think the kitchen table was actually under all the stuff. it was up to the ceiling. i've never seen anything like that before. >> let's move on to the living room. >> i think the worst room was probably the front room. the front room was the biggest room. that's the one that probably had the most stuff. >> piled as high as you could see, up to the ceiling. you had to walk across most of the -- probably two, three feet up in the air on top of the clothes, to get through to the other rooms. >> it was just stacked. an ungodly amount of stuff just stacked in the living room. >> let's try to get to the bedrooms. >> as you move into the hallway and the bedrooms, same thing. pretty much linens, blankets, stuff like that. >> it was kind of like hilly. you couldn't walk around. you had to climb over it. >> oh, there's the other bedrooms. >> when you looked at the doorway, the top of the doorway
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was where you would smash your face on. debris was three feet from the top of the doorway, which is roughly 4 1/2 feet deep. other areas it was higher. basically got stacked. couldn't see out any of the windows. some of the places it was stacked to the cleaning. >> it was clean clothes. she would clean them and pack them away. so it wasn't, you know, just garbage. >> there's the top of the door. got a little bit of clearance. >> to put that much stuff in there, she had to have been doing it for many years. it was kind of sad. you had kind of a sad feeling that somebody was living like this. >> take you to this bathroom here. yeah. that was the bathroom. >> the bathroom was completely filled with bags of stuff. so it wasn't usable. you could tell that she had finally just abandoned the house and just was using it for storage apparently now because there was no way that anyone could live in the house. >> no way, shape or form was it livable. >> if you have an entire house amassed with stuff from wall to wall, where do you even begin? what a lot of times happens is
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they sort of throw their hands up. they feel very beaten down, they feel very helpless, feel very overwhelmed, anxious and depressed. >> this is hoarding. >> the removal of clothes and debris takes schaeffer one month to complete. >> i filled up four 30-yard dumpsters. and i think i filled over 500 garbage bags to the top. the biggest bags they make. there's nothing that can't be accomplished with work. >> i don't know how one guy could do all that. it looked like you needed a crew of people to go in there and do it. >> it looks really nice now. >> i rented it four months after i bought it. i was very happy with the results. coming up -- excessive hoarding in florida, but this time hundreds of lives are at stake. >> it turned out to be 700 cats on the property. you thought this beach couldn't get any more tempting...
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the house will pass the senate reform bill by the end of the year. in south africa president obama visited robben island where nelson mandela spent 18 of his 27 years behind bars fighting apartheid. in new york city a chopper made an emergency landing on the hudson river. the pilot and four tourists are okay despite that scare. now back to "caught on camera." welcome back to "caught on camera." i'm contessa brewer. many of us are blessed to have a furry little friend in our lives. cats and dogs cannot only be our pets but members of our family. but for an animal hoarder, what starts off as caring for a few pets becomes overwhelming. a warning -- you might find what you are about to see disturbing. in florida, neighbors call
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police to complain about their neighbor's out of control hoarding, but when authorities arrive on the scene, it isn't clutter they find. >> turned out to be 700 cats on the property. >> this man is the director of the animal cruelty investigations of the humane society of the united states. and works closely with law enforcement to investigate reports of animal cruelty and neglect. >> we get a lot of animal hoarding calls. it's our number one call. oftentimes the root of the problem is they fail to spay and neuter. the other scenario is folks who sort of started out trying to rescue animals, and they've just sort of lost the ability or never had the ability to sort of determine what's an appropriate number of animals for them to have. >> whatever the reason for hoarding, the effects on the animals are devastating. >> the number one thing that we see in these cases is a real failure to provide proper veterinary care. when there's so many animals and not enough people to care for them, what happens is they may be providing sort of the basics
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of food and water to some extent, but they don't have the ability really to go through and monitor the population. you see injuries that have not been treated properly, that have either gotten infected or healed improperly. you often see disease from overcrowding. >> people with animal hoarding tend to want to be caregivers. a lot of times they may get a soechbs comfort, they may get a sense of the animals needing them. so that's how they derive pleasure from it. they just begin to take in more and more and more. at that point it's how do i get rid of this? >> when animal control in florida calls for help with an out of control cat sanctuary in february 2011, he heads out with a video camera to document the scene. >> when you initially drive up, you really have no idea of the full extent of what's going on with the situation. and it wasn't until we started walking through the property and we came to, you know, there was a large area off the main house that was sort of the isolation ward that just had cages and cages and cages and very, very
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sick cats. there was a large barn that also had cages and cages of cats. off of that barn were some pens with cats in them. you know, there was a trailer with cats. then come around the other side of the house, there's other pens with cats. >> deputy manager of cruelty investigations is and senior field responder rowdy shaw join them on the rescue. >> anyone that looks at a situation like that would almost immediately wonder how somebody could care for that many animals. your immediate thought was, oh, my gosh, there are a lot of animals here. >> they were in every kind of device that you could put an animal in. they were in everything. >> that was overwhelming, the smell and the fecal matter and the urine in there. >> once the assessment is complete, the humane society puts together a plan to deal with hundreds of felines. >> once we got over the initial shock of the number of cats that we were going to have to remove from that property, we divide the property up into different zones, and we split into three teams.
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essentially i would just assign each team an area. when they finish that area, i would assign them the next area. >> we had everybody spread out over that whole area. walk through. the moment somebody saw one cat, they'd yell and we'd come up and try to get it cornered. then everybody with a net, as soon as it decided to run, you'd be able to swing that net and capture the cat safely. >> after two days of collecting the outdoor cats, the team returns to the house. >> we did that last. we just took everybody and put them in there with nets and essentially caught all the cats in there. just chased them around till we caught them all. >> the cats' medical conditions are checked and some are in grave condition. >> they were really, really sick and really malnourished, a lot of them. most of them lacked even just basic care. you know, it was appalling. >> we had just about every kind of virus you could imagine. there's one cat whose entire lip was missing. there were cats that were blind, there were cats who later had to have eyes removed because their infections had gotten so bad.
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>> the humane society rents two nearby warehouses to treat the sick and injured cats. >> we had, at the height of it, about 26 people a day to care for the cats. >> a lot of them, actually. and that was kind of sweet. they were so excited for some companionship, that we would go into the pens and they would just walk right up to us. and they would nuzzle us and just want to be loved. >> sadly nearly 100 rescued cats do not survive the neglect, but many do find a happier home. >> we did a large adoption event and adopted out 258. then the rest we've just sort of slowly placed. >> as a result of the investigation, two people are each charged with 47 counts of animal cruelty. they both plead no contest and are each sentenced to 15 years of probation. they also have to pay a total of $636,000 in restitution to the humane society and are barred from contact with cats.
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for the humane society, another shocking case of animal hoarding. this time in gordon, alabama. more than 200 animals are rescued from deplorable conditions. >> a relatively large property. i think it was 20-something acre, and there were a number of homes on the property, a number of folks living on the property, but each of these folks had upwards of ten animals in their particular living situation. it was a hoarder commune, if you want to call it that. >> if you didn't know it was there, you didn't know it was there. one of those places tucked in the back, then all of a sudden in the tree, chain spots of dogs. >> many were kept in a variety of pens and many were just chained on the property. and there was an unbelievable amount of trash and debris strewn all throughout the property. the residence from the main woman was just filled with all sorts of stuff. it was sort of a little trail to go through the trailer. very strong odor in there of urine and feces.
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the animals were sort of climbing over piles of debris. a lot of the dogs were heartworm positive. many of them had heartworm that had advanced to such a severe stage that they were suffering from heart failure at that point. >> a team of more than 20 people examines and documents each animal. >> there were a lot of dogs that were really afraid. you can imagine they'd probably spent a lot of their lives just chained up on the property without any real human interaction, which we see a lot on the hoarding cases. >> almost 230 animals are removed. but despite the team's efforts, not all survive. >> there were several that were just so severely advanced in their heartworm or heart failure that they could not sustain the treatment and did have to be euthanized, but the majority of the animals we were able to place eventually. >> two residents of the property are charged with animal cruelty. both plead guilty and receive two years of probation. >> both of these women were in
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denial about the situation with the animals. they really felt that they were providing the best care for the animals. >> while delivering many of the animals to rescue shelters, one german shepherd catches rowdy shaw's eye. >> i stopped, and i just couldn't do it. she was asleep on the little couch. i fell for her and ended up taking her home. she's heartworm free and the happiest dog you'll ever see. coming up -- with the clock running out, hoarders call in the professionals. >> we got there just in time. this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. ♪ [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap.
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managers. we go in and help people that are living in unsafe and unhappy and unhealthy conditions. >> but according to ron, disaster masters services are only available to those who make the call themselves, to take their own first step toward recovery from excessive hoarding. >> the first question i ask them is are you calling for yourself or somebody else. 70% of the phone calls i get are third parties trying to fix somebody. those people i say, sorry, can't help you. i can't help somebody that's not interested in helping themselves. >> when a call comes in in 2010 from a school teacher needing help in staten island, new york, they head out for an assessment. with video camera in hand to document the case. but he assures all their clients that their identities will remain confidential. >> you couldn't open the door 90 degrees, maybe 30. this lady had a hard time getting into her own door.
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as soon as you walked in the front door, the floor is stacked from the floor to the ceiling. >> i remember having a difficult time walking through the front door and being amazed that she was in a wheelchair. and the first thing i thought is how does she get in and out? >> the disaster masters make their way around the packed home to assess the severity of the problem. >> behind the door, up against the wall in the closet, still stacked to the ceiling and little paths back into the living room, kitchen in the back. you could barely walk into the kitchen. >> it was a mix of construction material like tiles, plaster, to repair walls, tools and things that she had recently purchased as gifts. >> just a complete mess. everything came home, nothing had a place. >> she had a sofa sleeper that she was using because she could not walk up the stairs because she had just had knee surgery. and the whole second level was
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uninhabitable. turns out that all that construction material was because they had renovated a bathroom. so you go to the top of the stairs and on the left was this amazing bathroom. it was unfortunate that she could not even get up there to use it. you couldn't walk into the bedroom. and then the home office that was upstairs, that was over. i mean, it was full of office supplies. so it was just about safety and about her mobility issues. >> the job of painstakingly combing through and removing room after room of debris takes a five-person crew three days. >> everything in there that was a fire, health and a slipping hazard was gone. >> according to them, not only was the cleanup successful, but the school teacher has remained committed to maintaining order. >> there were a few phone calls made following that. and as far as we know even today she's doing okay.
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>> for the disaster masters, another memorable case of severe clutter happens in april of 2007. a high level computer expert reaches out for help from a very exclusive neighborhood on manhattan's park avenue. >> this is a lady very sharp, highly educated. >> we were greeted downstairs. we were the first people to show up in about five years? and she was absolutely beyond embarrassed. she knew we had to go in. once we got in, a few minutes after, she broke down. she was just in tears. >> successful in the workplace, but behind closed doors at home, living in complete disarray. >> she lived in a very respectable high rent high-rise building. and her house was a complete shambles. when you walked into the room and you were standing where the bed was, you were standing on top of the bed, about two feet above it. >> this was a pizza box job. it was just trash.
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empty water bottles, pizza box, food containers. >> i see people talk about milk bottles in the same way that we're speaking about individuals or talking about a cat or a living creature. not all but some individuals truly believe that these objects have feelings and the loss that they would sustain in throwing away milk bottles is not that different than someone who is getting rid of a cat or a dog. >> the homeowner, whose identity is also being kept confidential, is not only looking for help with removal but also to locate a lost family treasure. >> we asked was there anything you're looking for. >> she says, oh, my god, yes, there is. i said, well, what? >> i lost my mother's diamond ring. and it would really be amazing if i found it. >> what's the odds of finding something like that in that mess? >> it was so much stuff. i'm 5'3", and it must have come up to my shoulder. a lot of times you see a path and there was no path. you didn't just walk in, you
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climbed in. it was an amazing amount of trash. >> because of the amount of debris, the living conditions are extremely dangerous. >> she was clearly in danger of having a fire in that building because when you live in a place like that and you have that kind of paper and you have all these extension cords underneath this stuff, one spark with a lot of dryness, you can very easily happen. >> the removal process takes a six-person team two days to complete. 100 large trash bags are filled to the brim and carted away. but not before the team make a miraculous discovery in the bedroom. >> we found the ring. >> it was in the middle of the floor in a bunch of trash. >> i don't know who cried more, the staff member who found it, you know, this grown man. and then she starts crying, and the whole crew starts crying. it was just -- it was amazing. >> though not a trained mental health professional, he remains confident the home will remain clutter-free. >> what we do is we give them a
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new pattern of thinking so they don't buy anything unless they know where they're going to put it. they don't want to see me again. i don't want to see them again. i tell them flat out when we start, listen, i'm going to do this job once. i don't ever, ever want to have to come back and do this again. coming up -- a business executive faces eviction. and the disaster masters face their worst disaster ever. >> what i saw would make anybody want to vomit. you hurt my feelings, todd. i did? when visa signature asked everybody what upgraded experiences really mattered... you suggested luxury car service instead of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgraded experience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be.
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>> drive, ron and melissa alford head out to survey the scene. >> he welcomed us in and really said the magic words that fix it people love to hear, like ron and myself, which is will you please help me. please, help mow. >> and what at the find shocks even a team of experienced professionals. >> this place was one word, abysmal. you had to push the door open with your shoulder to get it open. and enthis you walked around sideways like this to slip in. just get in. and from there, there was just virtually everything, food, clothing, stuff everywhere. >> the debris in this case was a lot of trash. but also a lot of computer parts. he loved tinkering on computers and taking them apart. >> just like everything. lunch containers, soda bottles, you name it. anything you could buy at the
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grocery store, anywhere, you bring it home. it was all there. >> and a lot of paperwork. peep have a huge problem with what to do with paper. >> the crew begins carefully sifting through the debris, room by room. >> we don't take the snow shovels and haul the stuff into the trash can. we go through everything. we're looking for stocks and bonds and birth certificates and things like that. >> the removal takes a seven person crew three days to complete. >> we left him in really good shape. >> the cluttering client avoids eviction and just months after the cleanup, the alfords speef an unexpected call. >> out of a blue, he has a conversation with ron and says i just wanted to call and thank you for saving my life. >> shortly after we did that project, he ended up in the hospital. and the reason was, is because he got a heart transplant. >> he said if you had not taken me on as a client, if you would not have helped me, i would have
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died, because i would have not been able to come home to recover. i would not have been able to walk into my apartment. and so you really just saved my life twice. and he was just very, very grateful. >> a happy ending for the business executive, and another client, an ailing elderly man, facing imminent eviction cries out for help. >> they had found him out and had moved to have protective services for adults evict. >> once in the apartment, the crew discovers why there has been such cause for alarm. >> when you walked in the door, all there was, was books. i mean, tens of thousands of books. i don't know why the floor didn't collapse, from the floor up, taller than i am on both sides. it just went up 6, 7 feet high. >> avenue single bock in there was about philosophy, religion and health. there was nothing else there. >> the row mofl team winds their way through the literary maze.
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>> you walk through this tunnel, down to the window. and over on one side there was what pmay have been a six. >> the crew hauls the books over to a bin on the curb. but they notice not only isn't the pile growing, it's getting smaller. >> people on the street would go digging, take the books. so every time we showed up it was kind of a squoek how the dumpster would be less and less. >> a once hidden treasure of hard covers and paper backs is donated to dumpster diving bookworms. 2006, in new jersey, the disaster masters encounter the worse conditions they've ever seen. >> a stinging, rotten mess. >> the house had been occupied by a reclue sieve mother and son. >> when you walked up to the steps, you saw a bunch of yellow
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tape because the town had just condemned the house. when that happens, be quite apprehensive about what is behind that door. you could already smell it before you opened the door. you had to wear the respirators, you would not have been able to both at all. we climbed around to try to make sense of what the contents were. you couldn't even recognize the kitchen. there was so much organic material. >> the team finds the living room by identifying the very top of the fireplace. and cannot believe what they're facing. >> the living room had this big recliner in it. and between the doran coming in to where the chair was, was a pile of garbage. >> the whole living room was like a refrigerator from a horror flick. it was just unimaginable. the organic material came up above, about as high as the arm of the recliner. it was so packed that you could actually, in midday, see the
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steam coming out from the methane gas from all the organic material. >> this stuff was rotting. creating heat. >> what i saw would make anybody want to vomit. you didn't know if you were looking at a dead possum or if you were looking at just old food. i mean, it was just unrecognizable. >> the alfords realized that years of dropping food onto the floor had actually created a new higher floor. >> they eat like this and they watch the tv and when they're done they throw this one here and that one that way, and it stacks up. >> it's so dense, so packed from, layered, layered, then you walk on it. and you layer it and you walk on it. it was like walking on a floor. you could pound your fist on it. you could break your wrist, and it wasn't just that area. it was throughout the entire bottom floor. >> in the basement, busted water pipes create a stagnant pool of sludge. >> they had no heat, and as a
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result, the pipes broke. we were wearing boots above the knees to get through that stuff because the clothing and things there was absolutely disgusting. >> for 13 days the team digs their bay through the rotting garbage, hardened candle wax and stacks of debris. they fill five, 20 foot long dumpsters. >> i didn't think it was ever going to get done. we recould haved that house. the place got cleaned out completely. they put it on the market. we got there just in time. hoarding is a serious disorder that can leave many feeling helpless and overwhelmed. but as we've seen, whether the issue is garbage, books or animals, the situation is solvable. that's all for this edition of caught on camera.
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