view, the only thing they will hear is that the fbi expert who has a long list of credentials here says he could not identify whose voice that was on the scream. there were experts for the state and defense that the various lawyers wanted to bring forth to testify because the state experts suggested that indeed they could identify whose voice that was saying that it was trayvon martin's voice screaming out for help. and of course the defense had their own experts who said otherwise. at the end of the day, the judge decided that that testimony would not be presented to the jury because it just wasn't scientifically sound. and to give them what some might term junk science would only go to confuse the jurors. so we will have the testimony here. it's interesting the state decided to call the fbi expert. because in many ways it might be viewed that what he is saying is

not helping their case. maybe to a lesser extent helping the defense case. but he's been called. he's providing that information. i was just in the courtroom. the jurors at time are taking notes. nothing like i've seen them take notes before. it's much more of a let me listen and see if ki process it. this is technical. a lot of mathematics involved. and when you mix in the fact he has a rather thick accent, it makes it perhaps more complicated for the jury to digest all of the scientific information. >> kerry sanders live in sanford. thanks. george zimmerman has pleaded not guilty to the charges and he claims self-defense in this case. i'd like to bring in now legal analyst lisa bloom, faith jenkins, and kendall coffey. thank you all for being here this morning. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> lisa, i want to start with you. dr. nakasone testified for the

defense. why is he now a state witness? >> my belief is he's here to tee up the testimony of trayvon martin's mother. because for all of the science and elaborate techniques he has at quantico, there wasn't an efficient sample for him to reach a conclusion as to who was screaming on that call. what he said at the end of this direct testimony is the perfect person to identify is people who knew him. not just conversationally. but somebody who heard a variety of tones of the speaker's voice. that seems to me to be pointing towards trayvon martin's mother. who said previously to law enforcement that's my son's voice on that call. and my guess that would be a witness coming up very soon for the prosecution or perhaps their very last witness before they rest their case. >> and faith, one of the things i found interesting about this morning's testimony is that dr.

nakasone said whoever was crying in that was in an extreme emotional state. was this person in fear of death? and he said yes, it was. and how might the jury perceive that? does it speak more to being trayvon martin's voice or george zimmerman? >> any doubt of who is on the tape is helpful to the defense. in asking the doctor about wouldn't it be not in the best interest for a layperson to try to guess whoever is screaming on the tape if the experts can't analyze it. they're trying to plant a seed in the jurors' minds that it's going to be difficult for you to take a guess here. but you're right. what they're doing is setting the townation. they don't want the jury to be confident when they listen to this tape. making a determination about who's screaming. if they can decide who is screaming, that person was not the aggressor at that particular time. >> and one of the main issues we're discussing today is who

was screaming on that tape. another one we heard a lot about last week was who was on top in that scuffle. because they may speak to who was the aggressor and the perceived victim here. we heard contradictory testimony from the witnesses on who they believe was on top during that fight. how are they to make sense of that if the witnesses can't even agree what they were saying? >> it's a problem for the prosecution. common sense tells you that the position of the person on top could change during the course of a scuffle or even a very violent confrontation. but there's no doubt that question after question seems to be surfacing because it just isn't a clear, clear picture. and i think that this witness which maybe helped the prosecution in a slight way by saying maybe mom does know best with respect to whose voice is on it. the fact it is still going to be

hard to nail down whose voice it was and this witness talking about life threatening. if there was an issue before about whether george zimmerman was facing a life threatening situation, now it's sort of being further krcrystallized. if he was calling for life, his life was being threatened. >> we're going to leave it there for now. of course we will be coming back and covering this trial extensively. thank you, all, for being here this morning. be sure to stay with us for continuing coverage of the george zimmerman trial throughout the day and beyond. president obama is praising the courage of the 19 elite firefighters battling a blaze yesterday in arizona. the flames exploded out of control. it's the highest number of firefighters killed by a wildfire in the u.s. in years. it is still raging out of

control. we get the latest from miguel almaguer. >> reporter: this is one of the deadliest wildfires involving firefighters in history. some 19 firefighters from the prescotted from were killed yesterday when they were overcome by flames. fire officials tell us that all 19 men deployed their fire shelters. these are thin foil blankets used to divert heat and flames from firefighters. they're only to be used in the most dire situations. the bodies of the victims all 19 were discovered in and just outside of those fire blankets. there was one survivor. a crew member who was a lookout for the team. there were 20 team members in all. he was about a mile away from the blaze. he may have seen his crew overrun by flames. fire officials have released very few information, few details about the victims. we know some were expecting

children. some were rookies on this elite crew that are used to deploy to the most serious fires. the president called these men heroes. this fire has charred more than 200 acres. this fire is still active today. it is 0% contained. it is being fanned by winds in triple digit heat. the president again called them heroes. flags are ordered here to fly at half staff. this is a sad day not just for the state, but for the country. >> miguel almaguer. i'm sure you heard everything is bigger in texas. as lawmakers convene for a second special texas to take up a sweeping abortion ban. after last week's massive show of opposition, republicans are vowing to double their efforts to get that bill passed this time around. even the state senator who successfully blocked it with an 11-hour filibuster last week is

now acknowledging that this second fight will be different. >> they'll probably be a little bit smarter about how they try to move this bill. what they now have to confront is that the eyes of texas, the eyes of the country are watching. and they are going to be held accountable for the decisions they make in this process. >> earlier i spoke with who backed up davis in her efforts to block that bill. >> thanks for being here, senator. >> thank you. >> this issue was so important to you that you rushed back to austin on the same day as your father's funeral. let's listen to what you said on the floor last week. >> at what point must a female senator raise her hand or her voice to be recognized over the male colleagues in the room?

>> senator, what's really at stake here? why do you think it's so important? >> the issue is not just important for texas women, but for the men who support the women in their life. this is about women's health. and although my republican colleagues will tell you this is about protecting women's health, nothing could be further from the truth. we know that the texas medical association oppose this bill because they say it would endanger women. >> now, last week the timing of the legislative session actually worked in favor of opponents of the bill because it was introduced late and the vote was scheduled just hours before the session ended. but this time it's coming early and it's coming fast. how do you plan to fight it? >> well, we will continue to fight using parliamentary inquiries and procedures that are allowed in any legislative body. but what is going to be very important is that citizens be

heard. last session the first special session testimony was cut off. there were hundreds of people who had testified and signed up and more who got cut off. and when you cut off hundreds of people at a hearing, you can only expect them to come to the capital during final passage. so i anticipate that the citizens of this state are going to engage and come testify at the capital. >> now, you wrote an op-ed last week about the bill. i want to read a bit of that. here's what you said. i don't see how limiting access and choice is anything other than hardship and harassment especially to the poor. if this does get signed into law, where do you go from there? >> well, i really don't know. especially for any of the women that live west of i-35. texas is a huge state. and the way that the procedures and the laws are written, she would have to -- any person who really wants to terminate their

pregnancy would have to come to the metro areas and be out of work about four days. this is a huge burden. my fear is we'll return to the days where women who were desperate resorted to those procedures that put their life at risk. this is about women's health. it is their constitutional right to have a say so in their own reproductive lives. >> and senator, there have been some recent polls on this. and a gallup poll this year, only 27% of respondents believe second term abortions should be legal. how do you respond to those who say the bills like the one in texas are carrying out the bill of the people? >> i wish this bill was only about the 20 week ban. but, in fact, it's much more. what makes this such a dangerous bill is the fact it would

require all abortion facilities to go under the rules of surgical centers. even though there is no surgical procedure. and most of the cases, women will take a pill and then 48 hours later they take another pill. there's no incisions or invasion of your body. so what happens is that you reduce the number of facilities from over almost 40 to 5 facilities. that's what the difficulty is. i've been told planned parenthood doesn't even do termination of pregnancy past 12 weeks. in the majority of cases, most women do not terminate their pregnancies post-12 weeks. it's the first trimester. the only things that would happen in that 20 weeks time span are those women who have to make an incredible choice. something terribly wrong with

the fetus. something personal with their own health. statistics will tell you that most of these termination of pregnancy, the abortions occur in the first trimester already. >> all right. texas state senator leticia van de putte. thanks for your perspective. >> thank you. still ahead, we'll go back to our coverage of the george zimmerman trial. we'll bring today's testimony to you as it happens. stay with us. this is kevin. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, he's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. ♪ [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap.

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we're now in our continuing coverage of the george zimmerman murder trial. currently on the stand, doris singleton. she is a police officer with the sanford police department. and she interviewed george zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting. she also went along with several

officers the next day to the scene of the crime as zimmerman reenacted the events of that evening. let's listen in to the testimony taking place right now. >> i was off duty. >> did you get a call to assist an investigator involving a shooting at the twin lakes? >> yes. i received a call from santiago. >> how was it you were off duty and got called to assist that there need an additional investigator or how do d that come about? >> the sergeants within the investigative unit have an all-caall on-call status. and they take turns. that week sergeant santiago was the on-call sergeant for any investigative callouts. and so he called me. >> were you assigned to assist chris serino? >> yes, sir. >> was he the lead investigator? >> yes. >> when you were called that

evening, did you go to the crime scene itself to retreat at twin lakes or did you go elsewhere? >> i did not ever go to the crime scene that night. i went straight to the police department. >> were you requested by somebody to go to the police department? >> yes. i believe it was sergeant santiago that asked me. >> for the purpose of doing what at the police department? >> i wasn't told, i believe, until i got there. >> so you were directed specifically not to go to the scene but to go to the actual police department? >> yes. i believe at that time i was already told that zimmerman was already en route to the police headquarters. i didn't know his name at the time. >> when you arrived at the police department, was george zimmerman already there? >> yes. >> do you see george zimmerman in the courtroom today? >> yes, i do. >> the witness identified the defendant. >> the record will so reflect.

>> when you came into the room, was george zimmerman there? >> yes, george zimmerman was in an interview room. >> and were there any officers present there? >> not in the same room but in a room where they could observe him. this particular interview room has a two-way mirror where you can see into the room. but he wasn't able to see out of the room. they were there on the other side of the glass watching him. >> yes, ma'am. briefly describe the interview room. how big would you say it is, about? >> maybe eight feet by five feet? i'm not really good at measurement. >> and is there a table and chairs in the interview room? >> a table probably similar to the table i'm sitting at now. >> did you end up talking to the defendant george zimmerman? >> yes, i did talk to him that night. >> and was your interview with

the defendant george zimmerman recorded in any way? >> yes, it was. >> tell us how it was recorded. >> it was recorded on a -- just a voice recorder that they give us. >> okay. does that room have the capability of video recording? >> it does. >> can you tell us why it was not videotaped. >> because i didn't know how to activate that system. >> now, even though by law an officer is not required to inform a person being interviewed they are recording the interview, did you in fact inform the defendant you were recording the interview? >> i did. i also placed the recorder so he could see it was being recorded. >> did you advise of constitutional rights. >> i did. >> and did you use a form in doing that? >> yes, i did. >> i'm going to show what's in as states evidence 174. may i approach the witness, your

honor? state's exhibit 174. do you recognize said exhibit? is . >> what is it? >> i signed as well as george zimmerman signed that night. >> and was that process of informing the defendant of his constitutional rights, miranda rights, recorded as part of the recording you took of the defendant? >> yes. the reading of the rights as well as you can hear me having him sign it. >> okay. >> did you ask the defendant whether he understood his rights? >> yes, i did. >> did he indicate whether he did or not? >> he said he did understand. >> did he waive rights and talk to you? >> he did. >> did you ask him questions and did he respond to questions?

>> yes. >> at any time during the investigation did you threaten the defendant in any way in order to get him to him to make a statement? >> no, i did not. >> did you promise him anything in order to get him to talk? >> i did not promise him anything. >> and have you had occasion to come into contact with people under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs? >> yes. very much. >> did the defendant appear to be under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs to the pount he was incapable of understanding what was going on? >> i did not get any indication that he was under the influence of anything. >> when he spoke to you, did you have any problems understanding him when he spoke to you? >> no. he spoke clearly. >> and did he have any problems understanding you when you asked him questions? >> he never said that he misunderstood anything i said to him. >> when you came into contact with him, did you notice some injuries on him?

>> yes. >> okay. and did you discuss those with him whether he needed any medical treatment or not? >> briefly, yes. >> and did he say he did need medical treatment? >> he said that he didn't from what i recall when i first walked into the room. later on in the interview he said he was not sure. >> and did you discuss that with him in terms of providing him an opportunity if he so desired to get medical treatment? >> yes. >> and did he decline that? >> yes. >> okay. did he complain of an injury like my head, i can't think, i'm in pain. did he ever express that to you? >> no, he never said those things in that way. >> if he had done so, would you have interrupted or stopped the interview? >> if he had asked at all for any reason no matter whou he was showing himself that he wanted

to go to the hospital, i would have made that happen. >> when you came into contact with him, was that the evening of february 26th, 2012? >> yes, sir. >> okay. and do you recall approximately what time you came into contact with him? >> probably between 8:00 and 9:00. but that would be a guess. >> okay. and when you first came into contact with the defendant, did he have some blood on his nose? >> he are crusted blood underneath his nose. >> also on the back of his head? >> yes. that was actively bleeding. >> and did he use some tissues to stop that from bleeding? >> yes. we have a tissue box on the table in the interview rooms. he was using those tissues. >> okay. >> your honor, at this time i

would formally move into evidence state's exhibit 178 which is the defendant's interview with miss singleton, officer singleton. 178. i believe there's no objection. >> okay. it will come into evidence. >> we are going to take a quick break, but please stay with us for continuing coverage of the george zimmerman trial. we'll be covering it this morning and beyond. stay with us. (girl) what does that say? (guy) dive shop. (girl) diving lessons. (guy) we should totally do that. (girl ) yeah, right. (guy) i wannna catch a falcon! (girl) we should do that. (guy) i caught a falcon. (guy) you could eat a bug. let's do that. (guy) you know you're eating a bug. (girl) because of the legs. (guy vo) we got a subaru to take us new places. (girl) yeah, it's a hot spring. (guy) we should do that. (guy vo) it did. (man) how's that feel? (guy) fine.

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referring to, ma'am? >> to the crime scene. >> before this incident everything you know, why you were there, first of all -- this address on your license that says 1874 valleywood way, you no longer live there? >> correct. >> okay. do you live in the complex where this occurred? >> yes. >> what is your address? >> 1950 -- >> this is the correct one? >> you live at 1950 tree view circle. i'm just going to keep quiet. you tell me the story. you tell me what happened tonight. okay? whatever led up to this. whatever you want to tell me about what happened and why it ended up what it ended up to to where this boy got shot. okay? >> the neighborhood has had a lot of crimes.

our house was broken into and she got scared. >> vehicles or residence? >> residence. and so i decided to start a neighborhood watch program in the neighborhood. >> what is the name of the neighborhood? little two story condos? >> townhouses. >> townhouses. okay. >> retreat at twin lakes. sergeant hurst, and officer buchanan. i'm the coordinator. and there's been a few times where i've seen a suspicious

person in the neighborhood. we call the police on the non-emergency line. and these guys always get away. >> what made this suspicious? >> this gentleman in particular? i've never seen him in the neighborhood. it was raining out and he was leisurely walking taking his time looking at all the houses. when i drove by, he stopped and looked at me. >> had you seen him before? >> no. >> never? okay. >> i know all the kids in my neighborhood, all the adults in any neighborhood. like i said, it was raining and he was just walking casually not like he was trying to get out of the rain. >> tell us what happened right there. >> sergeant santiago was at the

scene and he chirped by nextel phone. and he wanted me to find out from george zimmerman if there was any phone numbers or contact persons he could locate or give information on to see if there was video surveillance of the gate as which cars come through the gate. >> okay. >> hey doris. >> yes. >> all right. is there any video at the gate -- >> is that sergeant santiago asking you something and that's why it's not clearly coming out on the recording? >> right. because it's coming into my phone and i have the phone to my ear. >> and he's asking if there's a tape or video at the gate view of cars coming in and out? >> yes. he wants me to find out from

george zimmerman if he knows that information. >> do you know if there's any tape or recordings of vehicles that come into that neighborhood? you don't know if it's running? >> correct. >> he says they do have video but he doesn't know if it's working. because last year it wasn't working. do you know who the contact is on the video? >> leland management in orlando. >> what are you talking about there in terms of contact? somebody to be able to -- tell me what you mean by that. >> my question was if he knew somebody who could get the information that safrgt santiago wanted? who could he contact in order to find out how to get the surveillance from a camera if it existed. >> so you're asking the defendant in terms of the contact person. so santiago could contact that

person. >> right. i guess he would assume that george would know being part of the neighborhood watch and he would know who to contact for that type of surveillance video. >> thank you. >> what is mr. zimmerman doing now? actually looking through this cell phone, the defendant? >> yes. at some point i go out of the room and i come back in and i give him the phone so that he can look up the phone number that sergeant santiago is requesting. >> phone meaning the defendant's phone, mr. zimmerman's phone. >> yes, his cell phone. >> okay. >> it's leland management. so far leland management in orlando. the contact person is kent taylor. but he doesn't have the phone number on him. >> we're going to go to a quick break. when we come back, our

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this is continuing coverage of the george zimmerman murder trial. right now the prosecution has called a police officer with the sanford police department, detective doris singleton. she's the officer who interviewed george zimmerman on the night trayvon martin was killed. she also returned to the scene of the crime the following day for a walk through and explanation of what happened. i'd like to bring in our legal panel for a moment. kendall coffey, faith jenkins, and lisa bloom are joining us this morning to evaluate what we're seeing and hearing here in sanford, florida. kendall, i want to start with you. and touch upon something that you mentioned earlier in a previous segment. you said to me that right now there's a problem in that there's no clear picture that has emerged. because we have heard so much contradicting testimony. who does that work in favor of? the defense or the prosecution? >> the uncertainty is what the defense is all about trying to

create. the prosecution has to eliminate reasonable doubt. what the prosecutors hope is we're beginning to see now the prosecution believes they can attack as not being truthful. that they hope will provide the missing link. because if george zimmerman was being untruthful about what happened, then that strongly suggests that he could have been guilty of a crime that night. >> kendall, sorry to cut you off there. we are going back to the case as it's in progress. we're hearing audio from the night that detectivive singleton interviewed george zimmerman. let's listen in. >> this time i was leaving to go to the grocery store and like i said, i saw a man walking in the neighborhood. standing in front of the same house i had called the police before to come to because this guy leaves his doors unlocked and stuff. he was walking leisurely and looking at the houses.

so i just pulled my car to the side and i called the non-emergency line. >> were you armed at this point? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. >> and i called the non-emergency line and i just reported there was a suspicious person in the neighborhood. the dispatcher or whoever answered the phone asked me where they went. i said i wasn't sure because i lost visual of him as he went in between houses. and he said well can you tell me what direction he went? and i said not really. and then all of a sudden i see him circling my car. and then he goes back into the darkness. so -- >> you pull out of your house and you're heading down the road as you're looking at him? >> yes, ma'am. >> you're on the phone and he dips between two houses, is that

what you mean? >> yes, ma'am. correct. then he comes back out and circles my car while i'm on the phone with the police. >> is he saying to anything to you? >> i couldn't hear him. my windows were up. as soon as i saw him coming, i rolled up my windows and stayed on the phone with dispatch. >> your car was running? your lights were on? >> yes, ma'am. >> is he walking completely around the car? >> yes, ma'am. and i didn't know the name of the street that i was on. >> so you had come off your street and gotten to another street? >> yes. goes and cuts through the middle of my neighborhood. i didn't know the name of the street. or where he went. so i got out of my car to look for the street sign. and to see if i could see where he cut through so that i could tell -- >> after he circled your car he disappeared again? >> yes, ma'am.

then dispatcher told me where are you? i said i'm trying to figure out where he went. and he said we don't need you to do that. i said okay. he said we already have a police officer en route. i said all right. and i had gone through the dog walk where i normally walk my dog, and walked back through to my street, the street that loops around. and he said we already have a police officer on the way. i said okay. i told -- they said would you like a police officer to meet you? i said yes. i told where my car was and the make and the model. so i was walking back through to where my car was and -- i got my cell phone -- have a problem. and he punched me in the nose. at that point, i fell down. i tried to defend myself.

he just started punching me in the face. and i started screaming for help. i couldn't see, i couldn't breathe. then he started taking -- >> and you're still standing at this point? >> no, ma'am. i fell to the ground with the punch the first time. it was dark. i didn't even see him getting ready to punch me. as soon as he punched me, i fell backwards into the grass. then he grabbed me -- he was wailing on my head. then i started yelling help. when i started yelling for help, he grabbed my head and he started hitting my head into the -- i tried to sit up and yell for help. and then he grabbed my head and started hitting it into the sidewalk. when he started doing that, i slid into the grass to try and get out from under him so he would stop hitting my head into the sidewalk. i'm still yelling for help. and i could see people looking and some guy yells out i'm

calling 911. i said help me, he's killing me. he put his hands on my mouth and nose and said you're going to die tonight. i couldn't breathe and he still kept trying to hit my head against the pavement or i don't know if there was a sign or what it was. i just -- when i slid, my jacket and my shirt came up. and when he said you're going to die tonight, i felt his hand go down on my side and i thought he was going for my firearm. i grabbed it immediately and as he banged my head again, i pulled out the firearm and shot him. >> then what happened? you're both on the ground? he's on top of you? >> he's mounted on top of me. and i just shot him. and then he falls off and he's like, all right, you got it.

>> does he fall to the side and he stays laying to the side? >> i don't remember. my vision was blurry. >> you didn't feel him fall towards you? he somehow ended up to one side or the other or you don't know? >> i don't remember. i think when i shot him, it might have pushed him back, but i remember i didn't know what he was hitting -- it felt like he was hitting me with bricks. so i remember once i shot him, i holstered my firearm and i held his hands down because he was still talking. i said stay down, don't move. then somebody comes out and i couldn't see. there was a flash light in my head. so i asked if it was a police officer. he said no. he was a witness but he was calling the police. i said the police are on their way. they should be here already. because i had called.

and he's like i'm calling the police. i said i don't need you to call me police. i need you to help me with this guy. then an officer shows up. again, he had the flash light, so i couldn't see him. and he asked me who shot this guy. and i said i did. and i immediately put my hands on top of my head and i told the police officer where my firearm was. and then he cuffed me and took my firearm. >> after you shot him, he said you got me? >> yeah. >> after you got on top, did he say anything else? >> he said ow. >> you said you were -- you had walked back there to try to find out where he went and you were already on the phone with dispatch at that point? you called them from your car? >> yes, ma'am. >> the whole time you were on your phone with dispatch? >> yes, ma'am. >> did someone else call before

the shot? he said he was already calling, right? or while he was hitting you you heard someone say i'm calling. >> yes. >> so someone else might have been on the phone with dispatch while you were being beat up? >> yes, ma'am. >> you've never seen this guy before? >> i don't recall. it was dark. >> what did he look like? >> african-american. early 20s, late teens. he was taller than me. so i would say 6'-ish. slender build. >> do you remember what he was wearing? >> yes. i gave a description over the phone. a hoodie and either sweat pants or jeans. >> it was all dark colored stuff? >> no. the hoodie was gray and the sweat pants were maybe like a denim color. like stone washed denim.

>> what was his hair style? >> he had a hood on. >> so you couldn't see? >> no. >> okay. all right. how's your head? >> i can't feel it. >> and who told you -- when i came in here they told me you broke your nose. did you need to go to the hospital? >> i don't know. they said i didn't. but i don't know. >> is this bump -- i can't tell what's normal for you. can you see? >> i can't. >> like right here, does that look like a contusion there of some sort or is that the normal shape of your head? >> that's not normal. >> it looks swollen there. can i see the other side? >> are you examining the sides of his head at that time? >> i've stood up and come to his side of the table so i could see all sides of his head.

>> okay. the person who said i'm calling, did you recognize that person? >> no, ma'am. >> so you don't know if that was a resident or -- >> they were looking out of their back patio. >> so it was somebody looking from a residence? >> yes, sir. >> did you see more than just that person? >> no, sir. >> nobody came over to assist in pulling him off. and you were between two houses when this happened? >> behind the houses. >> you were behind the houses? >> it was a row of houses. >> okay. you had gone behind. then were on your way out. was it one of the houses, one wall? i don't know how this happens. >> would you like me to draw it? the neighborhood is kind of like a square like this. and then there's a row of houses here. this is the wall and there's houses here. and then there's another row of houses here. and this is houses.

i parked my car here. the mailbox is here. he went through this dog walk here. and you can either go down the sidewalk here between this row of houses or you can go straight through to this street. this st. so this is -- i was -- this is asphalt. so i walk straight through to see if there is a street sign that i could tell dispatch where i lost sight of him at. and when i walked back, that's when he came out of the darkness and i guess he was upset that i called police. >> so this is behind the house that he comes out of the darkness? behind the building? you said there is some bushes or something he may have came out of? >> because when i walked past i didn't see him down here. so i walked through to make sure. you know, i looked to make sure he wasn't there, and then i walked straight through to see a street sign. when i came back, obviously he

was waiting somewhere. >> and where was your cell phone? had you already had it back in your pocket at that point? did it get dropped? or what happened with your cell phone? >> no. i had it in my hand. when he -- they said, would you like the police officer to meet you? i said yes, my car is there. >> that's when they disconnected with you? >> yes. >> that's when they said okay they were on the way? >> yes. that's when i put my cell away. when i walked past towards him, i saw him coming at me. i went to -- i don't remember if i had time to pull it out or not. >> you attempted to try to call the police. >> 911. >> but you're not sure if you actually got it out of your pocket or not? >> no. >> that's when he slapped you? >> he just hit me. >> and what did he say before that? you said he -- something about -- >> he said you got a problem? i said i don't have a problem.

he said now you have a problem. and that's when he hit me. >> he struck you in the nose first? >> yes, ma'am. >> that's what knocked you down? >> yes, ma'am. >> and this is -- you're saying this shined the building? >> yes. >> is it a patio? you said he's hitting your head on -- >> it's the sidewalk. >> the sidewalk behind -- >> yes. it is a dog walk. this is a row of houses and this is a row of houses and this is the dog walk. so i walked back here. >> so the dog walk is this -- >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. so he's hitting you. >> yes, ma'am. >> as i went to sit up, then he grabbed me by the front of my head and started banging into the -- >> and that's when you can look either to your left or right and you can see this guy and you're saying help me? >> i don't remember. i screamed help me probably 50 times as loud as i could. >> but at some point you could visually see that there was someone saying something to you from a patio?

>> yes. >> do you remember what that person looked like? the police arrived. >> yes yes, ma'. once the police got there i was on my feet because another person got there. i guess a resident. i couldn't see, he had a flashlight so i thought it was a police officer. >> at that point you stood and got up off him in. >> and then when the police got there, i was already standing up and i -- i put my hands on top -- >> we're talking about seconds between the time you see the flashlight and the police show up or -- >> i'm not sure. it was seconds. >> they put you at gunpoint? >> i don't know. i put my hands on my head had and i turned my back to them immediately. >> what were they saying to you, the police? >> he said, who shot him? i said i did. >> that's when you did this? >> yes, ma'am. i said i have my gun on my right

side in my holster in my waist band. he said i know you do but i have to handcuff you first. i said i just want to make sure you know i'm not going for my firearm and he put my arms out. >> and then where did they take you? >> here. >> they just put you right in the police car right away? >> no. ems. put peroxide on my head and i think they put peroxide on my face to get the blood off. >> okay. is there anything else i haven't asked or you haven't said, things you want me to know? >> don't think so. >> you said are you in charge of the neighborhood watch? >> yes, ma'am. >> but you weren't doing it that night or -- >> no. >> driving out and you happened to see this kid and you wanted to check it out, right? >> yes, ma'am. >> okay. well, actually, you did the right thing. you called the police.

>> yes, ma'am. >> to have them check out. you just noticed -- >> yes, ma'am. >> is that normally what you guys do? you just call, you don't try to make contact with them? >> yes. >> all right. >> during that interview there was an indication, appears that he's drawing something? is that correct? >> yes. there was a pad in there and he attempted to draw the location. where it occurred. >> did you subsequent to that actually use a google map to get him to actually draw a map to demonstrate exactly what happened? >> yes. it wasn't clear to me and i was confused as to where it actually happened and you how the neighborhood was set up so i went and i got a printout of the google map, of the entire neighborhood -- >> we've just heard george zimmerman's account of what happened on the night that trayvon martin was killed for the first time from george zimmerman himself in the form of audio recordings that were made during an interview with a police officer in sanford, florida, on the night of that

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[ sighs ] [ male announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. hi, i'm joy reid in for alex wagner and we are listening to the trifle george zimmerman, the second degree murder trial. doris singleton, the investigator who first interviewed george zimmerman, on the night that he shot trayvon martin is on the stand. let's continue to listen. >> you park here. and then is that when he comes and circles your car? >> yes, ma'am. it might have been close her in between here. these houses. >> okay. we can move it. just move it. >> right around there. >> okay. you came around here and ended

up here. >> yes, ma'am. >> you ended up here. and then is that why he circled your car? >> yecs, ma'am. >> he comes out from where. >> yes. >> all of a sudden you notice he he's circling your car. >> yes, ma'am. >> he's circling your car. >> yes, ma'am. >> are you still on the phone with dispatch? >> yes, ma'am. >> are you giving them a description? >> yes, ma'am. >> where does he go when you sight him again in. >> he walk back into the darkness there. >> he went there? okay. >> he walks back in here. >> yes, ma'am. >> does he make the turn or -- by the time he gets here you can't see him? >> correct. >> you're still in your car and you're watching him walk away. >> yes, ma'am. yes, ma'am. >> okay. then what happens? >> the dispatcher asks me what direction he went up and exactly what address i was at. >> this is when you don't realize what street you are on because are you on the center street and you live on the outside? >> correct. >> you're trying to figure out what street you're on. so you see him go here? >> i got out of my vehicle to look at this