tv The Ed Show MSNBC July 14, 2013 2:00pm-3:01pm PDT
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home. his final emotion, fear. the jury in the case of man who shot him to death on february 26 of last year did not find george zimmerman guilty of any crime. not of second degree murder. not manslaughter. and so george zimmerman is a free man today. he has even got his jun back. so what do we owe the living and the dead? george zimmerman and his family are very happy this evening and so are his supporters. trayvon martin's parents who wanted to see an arrest and trial for the man who killed their son received both. but did they receive justice? tens of thousands people marched peacefully to say no. and many more on social media and in homes where you're hugging your children tighter this evening are expressing feelings of stunned, sadness. is the truth about we've
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delivered to the dead this a black teenager has no right it walk in a gate had community in hoody in the rain or to run from a stranger without being thought of a suspect. or even be tried in court for his own death. or is it that as new york mayor michael bloomberg said, sadly all of the facts in the tragic case will probably never be known. but one fact is clear. to the living and the dead. it seems to me that we owe be a answer. late this afternoon, the president released a statement regarding the verdict and it reads in part, i now ask every american to respect the call for calm reflection from fwo parents who lost their young son and as we do we should ask ourselves if we are doing all we can to widen
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the circle of compassion and understanding in our own communities. we should ask ourselves if we are doing all we can to stem the tide of gun voi lens who claims too many lives across the country on a daily basis. we should ask ourselves as individuals and as a society how we can prevent future tragedies like this. as citizens that's job for all of us. that's the way it honor trayvon martin. i'm joined now with benjamin crump, attorney for trayvon martin's family. ben, always good to see you. >> thank you for having me, joy. >> ben, i think so many people are succumbed in their own grief, i they forget that primary griefers are the mom and dad of trayvon martin. how are they doing this evening. >> last night was certainly difficult. but sabrina told me, she cried,
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woke up and went to church and has a new legacy for trayvon martin. >> what is that legacy? what do they want the legacy of their son to be? >> you know, one thing that was so encouraged, joy, and you have interviewed is a bresabrina per. they handle themselves with dignity and grace. and she said that we have to roll up our sleeves because even though we've come a long way, we have a long way to go to make sure this doesn't happen to anybody else's child. i thought that was so profound that the day after the verdict she is thinking we still have work to do. because we can't get bogged down in negativity. we have to remain focused and
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try to make this negative a positive. >> you and i have talked about this before. i find it difficult to interview sabrina fulton. as a mom, i look at her for a few minutes, and i want it cry. but she holds herself together so well. but you can see under the surface how much pain she is in. has it helped her at all it see the protest, to see how much people have fallen in love with her son. people say this is our child. has that helped her at all? has it helped tracy at all? >> they really wanted to have the killer of their child, teenage son held accountable but they won't let this verdict define him and they won't say his death was not in vein and
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one of the things that sabrina also told me was that when you really think about it, everybody knows trayvon's name. and we want to make sure they know it for the right reasons, that he was a human being on this earth. he has every right it walk where he legally had a right to do so. breath, and had the right not to be pro filed and pursue and killed. and those are very important things she wanted to get out to everybody who would listen, that my son had a right to walk home that night. and when she talks about it this morning, she was so inspirational and saying that, we are going to get them. we are not going to be in this -- the defeatist mentality. we are going to have the
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mind-set of having more work to do. >> i know there is a civil suit planned and a request for the justice department to look into it. briefly before we let you go, ben, we just showed a picture of angela cori, one row ahead of sabrina and tracy. do they feel the prosecutors did everything they do both to win the case against george zimmerman and prevent the demonization of their son? >> they appreciate ms. cori and her office and in the closing summation, prosecutor got down to the crux of the matter of what this case is about. and that was, if the roles were reversed and trayvon would have pursued and followed george zimmerman and shot him in the heart, what would the verdict have been? because that's what everybody was watching this case for, to see if equal justice works for everybody in america.
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they wanted to make sure they got their day in court and ms. cori's office, very courageously did that. and for that, they are forever grateful. do they want to have him held accountable? absolutely. are they heart broken? absolutely. are they going to stop fighting for the trayvon martin legacy? not at all. they are going to continue to fight to the very end. and they are fighting for justice for trayvon. >> ben, i know you've been doing this a long time, and you're a father yourself. we appreciate you being here. please pass along, i know that eld schultz's viewers want to pass along their condolences. all of our condolences to tracy and sabrina. >> and joy, please know that they are putting a lot of their energy into the trayvon martin foundation and so a lot of people say, how can they help? visit the trayvon martin website. >> exactly.
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i think it is trayvon martinfoundation.org. >> yes, ma'am. >> thank you ben crump. we appreciate you being here. now let's turn to our panel. michael skullnick and goldy taylor. i'm going to stay with you for a second, goldy. because ben crump talks about how resolute these parents are to get justice for their son. they did not. in your way of looking that goldy, you live in the south. unfortunately we have seen these tragedies too many times before. this is the 50th anniversary offof ed gars killed in the south. what do you think the legacy of trayvon martin will be?
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>> i say this hthis on behalf o all of the panelists here. we are honored to be here and talk about this conversation. it is a rarity that all of my children are on one place in any given even pg. last night by sheer coincidence we were all together and i watched as each of my children slumped. there was a sadness, that hung over the house for a very long time. we were, as a family, speechless. this was a trial that so many of us fought for. we wanted due process. to unfold itself, and it has. i think we have to be satisfied with the verdict but not with the judgment. there are other avenues this family can take to receive or at least attempt to receive their brand of justice. but i think for all of us, the job going forward is to make
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sure we figure out how to embrace black men and boys around this country. those who are victims of violent crime and perpetrators of violent crime. we have to figure out a way that we have to break this so-called policy of containment. if it doesn't bother us, bthen e don't get involved. but very to get involved. we have to get into education, and provide opportunity and things that are necessary to break the cycle of violence. i think that our job going forward is not to relitigate what happened in the courtroom for the state's case for george zimmerman but to prosecute violence by and for and against black men and boys around this country on a daily basis. >> goldy, that's so important. this is a circle of friends to talk about something traumatic. you want your friends around you. i appreciate all of you being around here.
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sabrina fulton talks a lot about her faith. she spent the day in church. that is what enabled her to be so serene in a lot of ways and so strong. which i think is one of the reasons what is going around around trayvon martin has been so peaceful. you are a professor of religious studies. this is when faith is tested the most. why pray to god when your prayers result in essentially nothing. the person who shot a young boy goes free. trayvon martin's parent are still grieving. >> i said on twitter today, god is not good all of the time. people mistake not having faith for not believing that bad things can happen even if you pray. i look at this woman and think, this is a strong woman of god. if this was my child, i would be somewhere else doing something else. but part of that faith structure
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we have in the black community is the reason we were able to get through slavery. through civil rights. we will get through this moment. but we have to take that faith and make it operational and operational to come at the evil and unjust structures. it is what goldy said but much more. there are evil structures that made this case happen and if we do not look at evil structures that have been set up by evil people, we will not begin to understand what is going on. there are many people who have been just like trayvon shot. but this is because of alec. and many other people who put together laws say they are christians. what kind of christians are they that it is okay to say on tv, that this must have been god's will. i don't know that god. that's not my god. >> you are talking about these laws, stand your ground type laws, michael, that enable you to use your gun in any space. they have taken the castle out of your home and on to the
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streets. could you be far from your house and discharge your weapon. michael, you are a part of trayvon martin foundation. you have your trayvon martin shirt on. you know the family very well. talk about how they will get to the structures. what are the practical things that foundation, the family, the parents want to do and want the people who care about them to do. >> sure. i think if we look at the past 24 hours and pain and sadness that so many of us feel and so much anger that many of us feel as well. we look at the past 17 months. for the past 17 months we mobilized millions of people around this country to stand up against the laws and say no more. for the first time in eight years, in 2012, not one new law of stand your ground type of law was passed in any state in this nation. that is because the great leadership of is a bresabrina a. if i could just touch on the humanity of trayvon martin and
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the legacy they want it to leave for their son. before, black men and women were killed and we didn't know their names. now trayvon martin's name is on t-shirts, billboards, twitter feeds. jordan davis was killed. we know his killed. then hadea pendleton was killed. the president put her family in the box next to the first lady of the united states and recognized the pain and suffering of black parents and equal to the pain and suffering of white parents when they lose their children. six or seven months ago in sandy hook we lost 20 beautiful young children. and the pain that tracy and sabrina are feeling is the same as those parents in sandy hook. so the black wild has a name, family, parents, brother, brand mother. they breath, sleep, smile. as sabrina fulton said, her son might have struggled through life, but he still had a life. >> it is interesting you bring
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up president obama. because one of the things that turned this into a political story instead of a story about a dead young man, is when he had like trayvon martin. and goldy, is there a sense in which having a black president forced this conversation about race on us for better or for worse? and the worst ways and in some ways in the best ways? >> i think are right about that, joy. equal handedly best ways and worst ways. but i still don't know if we are having an honest conversation about how to relate. i've long said that privilege is the liberty not to know. it is the ability not to have to present your check and it is not cash. and so i think under this president, we have seen a lot more of it sort of come to growth. i think you're right. >> all right, that's going to have to be the last words. i appreciate you being here. thank you so much.
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>> thank you, joy. >> all right. we will have more reaction to the george zimmerman verdict after this. you are watching "the ed show" on msnbc. >> trayvon martin will forever remain in history next to edgars and till as symbols for the fight for equal justice for all. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar, for every dollar
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across the country from new york to miami to detroit to san francisco. many are asking to wear hoodies in solidarity to trayvon. in florida, supporters came together to express disappointment. cities brace for potential quote unquote riots. the protests that broke out remained almost entirely peaceful. the one exception, oakland, california. where there are report of broken windows, spray painted cars and slashed tires. there were no arrest made and no reported injuries. there has a march held by a multiethnic group in florida. tremaine, thanks for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> give us the sense of the overall sanford community and then the black community in sanford.
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>> i think over all folks are ready to take something from this tragic event. there is not anger but kind of a resignation that there are two dirent justice systems here at play. that a young boy went off to the store and never came back and there seems to be an inherent injustice that no one has been called to task for that. folks are just trying to digest it and everyone i speak to, they express a sense of sadness and disappointment. and that we're not seeing the riot here but you can almost have a riot by a thousand little explosions. and the little hurts. i think that's more complicated than simple anger. a feeling there is a separate justice system for you as opposed to the rest of the country. that's sad. >> it is funny trymaine, well,
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it is not funny, but when i was there last year, one of the things people would say is the only reason this case created protests and there was an arrest and charges is because trayvon was not from here. in the same neighborhood you talk about, in goldsborough and people say if he was from here, a boy from sanford, police wouldn't have cared. his death would not have even made the news. is the sense now that oh, wait, we thought him being from miami, from the big city down south would have made a difference. since it didn't, did that submit people's sense of just dispare? >> i think it does cement that sense of despair, but also gal very niezed a whole community around the issue of social inequity. if he was known to the police department or the community, whether he add record or not, it might have been easier to brush
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him to the rug because people would have been used to this. trayvon martin being an outsider. his family coming in support of him and organizing, galvanizing, legal team and advisers, made the difference. but some people said they allowed themselves to be fooled to believe that this time it might be different. and the fact that they fooled themselves just hurts even deeper. >> you know, george zimmerman has back his freedom. as well as his firearm. is there any sense that he might move back to sanford? >> i'm not sure. but almost everyone i spoke with said there is no way he will be safe here or have a feeling of safety. not that anyone would necessarily attack him but this would be such a hostile environment for him to be in. knowing all of the baggage that his near presence brings to this community, it is highly doubtful that he will stick around. >> last question to you, this question is about the sanford
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police. about their decision not to arrest. now vindicate bad by a jury in t courthouse. the sanford police department, is there any sense at all that they changed? do you get the sense that police down there field vindicated? are they walking around saying, i told you so. or are they at all chastened to their rebuke for the treatment of the black community for many years as a result of this case? >> i think only time will tell. i think city and police department leaders would tell you some of this was embarrassing and the national spot line shown on sanford, also shown down on a lot of dirty laundry. what some would describe botched investigations. lackluster, if any relationship at all, between the black commune the and the police. so i think only time will tell. we will see. >> thank you very much. we appreciate you and your reporting at msnbc.com.
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it was addressed in the closing argument but in my opinion the prosecution didn't give enough information about the chase, the pursuit of a lone black kid walking down the street and finding out 60 yards from his house that the man he thought was following him in a car got out of the car and is following him. then finding out he has a gun. is there no place for a black man to fear? i think one thing we have to get to if we have a real conversation about race is the full sense of the humid of black men and boys. they are capable of being the victim. they are capable of being afraid. sometimes me do run away and sometimes they take the advice i was given when i was an 18-year-old living by myself in new york. which is if a stranger is following you, don't run. they might have a gun and you might get shot. don't go home, you might draw
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january 1, 2009, 22-year-old oscar grant was fatally shot at point blank range by a san francisco bay area transit cop after fight broke out on the train. the incident was caught on cell phone cameras by a number of witnesses. officers who shot him said he mistakenly used hi pistol instead of taser when he saw grant reaching no for his waistband. turned out grant was unarmed. the officer was charminged with second degree murder but was charged with manslaughter and served one year in jail. protest started out peacefully but turned violent after nightfall resulting in the arrest of 80 people. this story has been made into a film called "fruitville station". >> hey, oscar, how are you? >> i'm good. happy new year. >> happy new year. >> oscar, oscar from --
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>> get off the train now! >> put that phone away. >> are you still on the train? >> we still at fruitville. >> why can't you tell me what is going on? what is the problem? what did you do? oh, my god. >> after zimmerman's not guilty verdict was read last night fruitville station michael jordan says, i can't believe this is happening right now. >> let's turn to david wilson and geloni. they both saw "fruitville station" this weekend. you literally walked out into the movie and cell phone text about the verdict. >> right. first off, it is an
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extraordinary film. and it is also a film that you only need to see once because at the end of the film as credits were rolling, the audience was still sitting there and you could hear people quietly sobbing because you understand the humanity of this individual in ways we often don't. so we talked out of that theater and then 20 minutes later we got word of the verdict. so what it said to us is no you cannot suspend disbelief. no, this is not just a movie. this is the america that you live in. these are the issues that you grapple with. i'm the historian. i look at this in the long-term. i'm thinking about kog nil lynched in 1934. i'm thinking about rosewood in 1923. i'm think thinking about harry a harriet moore, their homes
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bombed on christmas eve. this is about all of the trayvon martins. >> the thing that is different about the two, david, is that obviously in the oscar case, you are talking about a police officer shooting a black man which is something unfortunately young black men and their mothers and fathers have had to tell them to be careful around police. that is something we have come to, unfortunately, understand. but in the trayvon martin case, it was a civilian. someone with no authority, doing the same thing, profiling and shooting a young black men. >> absolutely. and the similarities with oscar and trayvon, two african-americans trying to get home. trying to return to loved ones. i think that is powerful. one of the things i took away from fruitville station is the that they portrayed o oscar grant, not necessarily as a hero, not someone as flawless but an african-american man trying to find his way in society. he had brushes with the law. he loved his family.
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that was important to show. he didn't have to be perfect in order for justice to be on his side. as you know, with trayvon martin, there has been a smear campaign by some on the right and also from the defense team. when they show pictures of trayvon martin, in court, a shirtless young kid with grills in his mouth. as if to say because he may have looked that way, that he could not be the victim. >> and he didn't look that way that night. that is the most outrageous thing. literally mark o'mara held up a picture of trayvon martin which wasn't the most recent photo and said this is the person that my client confronted. it wasn't. is that one dimensional view of young black men. that is the central struggle of growing up young, black male in america. there are such disgusting lengths. well, if you look at the body, you can't tell how muscular he was.
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>> at that point the parents walked out. >> case is defined by the application of antiquated ideas about rape. what was he wearing. was he drunk or high. and really ultimately, what did he do? did he deserve it? so this is what was happening in that courtroom. and you can say okay maybe they are mounting a vigorous defense for their client p. maybe they are willing to rsis m to get their client an acquittal. but this was in the press conference after. no matter what your theory of this was, this was still a grieving family. not capable of saying at least we have an expression of sympathy for them. >> last year when everyone learned the case of trayvon martin. we all mentioned the phrase teachable moment. and i think one of the unfortunate lessons from this teachable moment for many african-american boys is beware. you know, you can be doing everything right. you can come home from school. be profiled, and killed.
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the law may not be on your side still. you may not receive justice for doing the right things. being in the right places. so i think that is a very daunting sort of notion for young african-americans to proces process, especially dealing with all of the other things you deal with. in incarceration, and at the bottom of the totem pole for everything, health, education so when you talk about a 16, 17-year-old african-americans life, it is almost unbearable. >> we were talking earlier in the green room and you were talking about because one of the issues made is trayvon martin's height. a cardboard dummy made. look how tall he was. look how menacing. you grew up as a tall young man, tell bus that. >> i'm 6'3". i stopped growing when i was 15. when they kept talking about
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trayvon martin and pointing out he was 5'11", i said this will end in acquittal. they would say, what else could george zimmerman do. but i remember as a young person, my parents gave me the same warnings that everyone else did. be careful, people will mistake you for something else. all these things can happen. my father told me, if the police try it hand you anything, keep your hands at your sides. if they ask is this yours, keep your hands at your sides because they want your fingerprints on something. but it didn't register to me until a white teacher told me, he said, you know, you actually could be intimidating who white people. that is something really telling in my own life. >> and the only unfortunate -- not the only unfortunate thing, but one of the unfortunate things, is we know george zimmerman had a longer rap sheet and more brushes with the law than trayvon martin did and that was not admissible. >> and the prosecution didn't fight that hard to get it. thank you very much pch david
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the petition hosted on move-on.org received over 350,000 signatures, enough to crash the naacp's website. i'm joined by hillary shelton senior vice president for policy and advocacy for naacp, michael dyson and rashad robinson, executive director of color of change. i will start with hillary shelton. this is your petition. how likely is it that the justice department will initiate a prosecution of george zimmerman at the federal level. >> we know at this point they are actually investigating it very thoroughly. according to the conversations we've had with justice department officials they have been monitoring this case from the very begin ppg from the time we talked to them, after we heard this happened. they have been following everything along the lines. looking at trial throughout this process. we know there's a possibility that they are looking for an
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opportunity to bring charges of charges can be found. we feel good that justice department has full attention focused on this case. >> it is important obviously that the naacp has an entity to pursue charges on behalf of the family of trayvon martin. color of change, one thing you have done well is boycotts with the glenn beck situation and targeting advertisers. targeting boycotts is a way to achieve social change. are there any thoughts of boycotting florida for instance. maybe encouraging organizations to pull conventions out of florida. is there any talk of that? >> one of the things we've done well is hold corporations behind stand your ground accountable. getting 52 corporations to lead the american legislation exchange council after it was shown they were behind the laws. >> the stand your ground laws. >> the stand your ground laws. what he with will do is focus on main street media and in
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particular hollywood and depictions of black men and boys. we need change policy and also change the culture. we can do it by leveraging our power as everyday people who care about what is happening on our television screen. and what george zimmerman saw when he saw trayvon martin is portrayed on television everyday. >> that is important but i think also people want to see something concrete. if you do a long-term thing with hollywood, that's good. if you pursue the justice department. what about on the street, advocacy, boycotting, things that people can see and feel right now. >> very tangible. we've had people with american culture with pictures of blak black masculinity we don't want to outlaw. we understand the white supremacist impulse of hollywood is to demonize black men. but on the ground we have rallies, go to churches, tell people to vote. why? not just for barack obama. but vote in the local
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legislators in and out of office who are southern, who determine the alec, the stand your ground law. we can put those p.m. out of business. we have to appeal to department of justice and eric holder who is a very sensitive to this issue. we have to say, we have to stand our ground. our ground is america. our ground is this country that we built. we can tweet, talk, touch, tend to our wounds. and tell america, we will not tolerate this. >> and the martin family is doing something familiar. hillary shelton, i want to talk but about the march on washington. 50th anniversary being put together. how did k that energy already existing, people wanting to be in washington for that next month. how can all of these things be put together? is that a plan of the naacp? >> absolutely. just like the original push on washington.
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to make sure we educate people on what's going on but then turn that knowledge and understand what is going on with direction action. direct action in our cities and states as we take on policies and issues like stand your ground and other dangerous and destructive policies but focus on the federal government as well. we have to address what happened to trayvon martin and also what happened to voting writes with the shelby decision. we will use that to garner that power, match that power and actually focus that power and make positive changes n our society needs. >> i want to let everybody know, we are looking at live pictures of union square. 20 protest scheduleds to go on. that is new york city. i want to come back to you guys, rashad and michael, and it was so offensive at the idea that people would riot. i would submit that you don't have that violence now day says that you have social media. people can have a community with them even in their living room
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or you don't have to feel grief and despair on your own. >> hundreds of thousands of color change members, members o, george zimmerman wouldn't have seen a day in the courtroom if people didn't mobilize. folks have seen the power they have through the use of technology. >> are we a year from now going to be seeing another trayvon martin? >> probably so, but we have to make sure that it doesn't happen and when it does, we'll be there on the spot to circumvent that possibility in the future. twitter and social media allows those people to be heard. >> thank you all for being here. more on the verdict after this. so... [ gasps ]
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in finishing up tonight, i want to take a moment to talk to you about freedom. one of my favorite lines from one of our greatest president, franklin delano roosevelt was his speech on the four freedoms. freedom of speech, freedom to worship god, each in our own way, freedom from want and freedom from fear. freedom from fear. we've heard a lot about george zimmerman's fear of great bodily harm during his second degree murder trial. it was an expert defense that convinced a jury of his peers that he was not guilty of second degree murder. what we didn't hear much about until the very end of the case was trayvon martin's fear. it was nonl the rebuttal to closing argument that the prosecution finally asked isn't it every child's worst nightmare to be followed by a stranger? every parent in this country, whether they're republican, a democrat, an independent, right
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or left, struggles with teaching our children to be free from fear. at some point in every child's life, we have to give our kids the freedom to toddle and then to walk away from us, to cross the street, to go out alone, to drive the car and be home by curfew and eventually to become a self-sufficient adult member of society. trayvon martin ventured out from a gated community on a rainy night in florida while his dad was out to dinner to get candy and a drink for his soon-to-be younger stepbrother. he was exercising the kind of freedom that teenagers do every day, that mi teenagers do, that freedom to go to the store, to walk in the community where he was staying cost him his life and it will haunt his parents for the rest of theirs. no parent should ever have to experience burying a child. george zimmerman deserved to have his day in court. he deserved the right to a free and fair trial. in the end, the system worked
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for him. but trayvon martin lived in a state and in a country where guns are held sacred. he lived in a country where he was perceived as a thug and a threat because of the color of his skin and the clothes he wore. and because he fought back against a stranger who was following him. and he lived in a country where he could be put on trial and held responsible for his own death. this story should make every single parent stop and think every time your child walks out the door, they are in danger, you are in danger of never seeing them again because the right to bear arms has turned into the right to shoot first and get your story straight later. in 2013, america has become a country where the second amendment rights are more important than a 17-year-old boy in florida. 20 first graders in connecticut or dozens of people just trying to watch a movie in colorado. we live in a country where you can be stopped and frisked because of your race and where a black teenager hoot nonl has to
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be wary of the police but each and every armed civilian and where never one of us can experience freedom from fear. i'm joy reed in for ed schulz. we'll see you back here next week. about ouncer ] your favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium-rich tums starts working so fast you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums all your important legal matters in just minutes. protect your family... and launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. since aflac is helping with his expenses while he can't work, he can focus on his recovery. he doesn't have to worry so much about his mortgage, groceries, or even gas bills. kick! kick... feel it! feel it! feel it! nice work! ♪ you got it! you got it! yes! aflac's gonna help take care of his expenses.
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