gene robinson was not spot on, like the cooke monster. >> what did you learn? >> trayvon martin case opened up wounds you need to heal. >> listening to you and gene talk, so many of us live in a completely different world and have no idea what it's like to be african-american parent with teenager boys sending them out into the night, and the day, to go to school or somewhere. it's unbelievable the conversation you had. what did you learn? >> i learned there's something wonderfully not right about jeff garland. he's not all right. >> it's way too early, it's "morning joe." stick around now because going to "the daily rundown" with luke. >> luke. okay. >> after the verdict, reaction continues to unfold as attorney general eric holder makes his first public comments on the decision ahead of the draft in orlando.

he's speaking miles from where trayvon martin was killed. back in washington, old school meeting, will senate democrats bust up filibuster. we'll talk to the republican who pushed and the democrat leading the call for a filibuster fix for months. find out what some of the biggest names in politics have in common when it comes to their digital domain. one man in the middle of it all. good morning, july 16th, 2013, in for chuck todd on this all-star game day. we begin with the latest fallout not quality verdict zimmerman trial. about 150 people vandalized cars, set fires and vandalized businesses. >> the officers grabbed two of

the suspects. >> they were throwing down garbage cans. >> kids ran inside my store and tried to beat somebody up for my phone. that's sad. i want justice, too. there's different ways to go about it. we don't need to be out here fighting each other. we need to figure out a way to come together as one. >> the martin family was clear, those who sympathized with their plight, the best way to honor their son and loved one is in a nonviolent manner. >> around the country protests remain mostly peaceful as a member of the jury that acquitted george zimmerman spoke out for the first time to cnn revealing when the six jurors first discussed the case, one believed he was, in fact, guilty of second degree murder. two thought he was guilty of manslaughter. and just three believed initially he was not guilty. >> do you think he's guilty of something? >> i think he's guilty of not

using good judgment. i think george got in a little bit too deep, which he shouldn't have been there. but trayvon decided he wasn't going to let him scare him and get the one over up on him or something. i think trayvon got mad and attacked him. >> we also heard for the first time since the verdict from rachel jeantel, the florida teen who was on the phone with trayvon martin just before he died. she also spoke to cnn. >> racial. lets be honest, racial. if he was white, trayvon was white and had a hoodie on, would that happen? >> some civil rights group and lawmakers are calling on the justice department to pursue criminal civil charges against george zimmerman. >> george zimmerman identified trayvon martin as a potential criminal because he was black.

he followed trayvon martin because he was black. a grand jury should ultimately determine whether he shot trayvon martin because he was black in violation of our nation's civil rights laws. >> in his first remarks since zimmerman's acquittal, attorney general eric holder called martin's death tragic and unnecessary. >> the justice department shares your concern. i share your concern. i want to assure you that the department will continue to act in a manner that is consistent with the facts and the law. >> now, the justice department says it is reviewing evidence in the case to determine whether criminal civil rights charges are warranted. this afternoon holder will speak

to the naacp convention in orlando, florida. the organization's website has been flooded after the naacp post add petition online calling for a federal prosecution of zimmerman. >> at one point we were getting about 100 signatures per second. and this just tells them, these are people of all colors across the country who just believe our country can do better than what happened in sanford and who believe the u.s. doj has a role to play in protecting all our children from people who would track them and taunt them and confront them and kill them on the street. >> msnbc's craig melvin is live. the naacp convention in orlando, florida. nbc news justice correspondent in washington. craig, i want to start with you. you're in orlando, florida, just a few dozen miles from where this crime actually occurred,

alleged crime occurred, this incident occurred. what is the mood there at the naacp convention in orlando. what are folks talking about? this must be the number one thing on the docket there. >> you guessed it, luke. that's pretty much what everyone was talking about. roughly 2500 convention attendees. this is naacp's 104th annual convention. we all know it's america's oldest civil rights organization. i talked to ben jealous a short time ago. he said the speech is hands down the most anticipated speech of the convention. he told me he's going to caulk about the verdict and moving forward and the justice department's role moving forward. but he's also going to be talking about the voting rights act. he's also going to be talking about what black voters specifically need to be doing in the wake of the voting rights act. in addition to eric holder peg today, also kathleen sebelius,

health and human services secretary, the implementation of obama care. sean donovan, hud secretary talking about predatory lending. again, as you indicated, the not guilty verdict is top of mind for all convention attendees. i was talking to folks in the hotel last night. that was all they wanted to talk about. not just the verdict itself but what happens now. so i'll toss it back to you for now. >> lets talk about what could happen now. pete williams. pete, for those of us not well versed how this proceeds legally at the federal level, give the audience an idea of what type of charges the federal government could possibly bring up here against george zimmerman. what is the way forward? >> there aren't many. as a matter of fact in the justice department statement that came out over the weekend, they referred to the limited civil rights laws under federal jurisdiction. the little sound bite you had from congressman jeffries really sets up the key question. the most likely law that could

be invoked here is a relatively new one, the hate crimes law congress passed four years ago. it makes it a federal crime to cause bodily injury to someone because of the victim's actual or perceived race. so the government would have to convince a jury that trayvon martin was shot because of his race, not because of self-defense or something else. several former civil rights prosecutors say it would not be enough for the justice department, for example, to claim george zimmerman started following trayvon martin for his race. that would only be the beginning of it. they would have to show he actually every step of the way continued to pursue him, the thing escalated and that he shot him because of race. the state has never made that claim during the trial. it's the whole question of proving intent. very difficult. when the government got convictions under these laws, there usually is some other evidence to show, a racial motive, maybe the person talked to other people. there were witnesses, video.

unless the justice department can come up with something more, a federal prosecution does seem unlikely, luke. >> pete, real quick, covering doj, you said it's unlikely but something they will pay attention to and put forward or won't do it at all? >> i think they will take a close look at the he have. the fbi will look at information it gathered about the shooting. they will review all the evidence that was gathered for the trial. they will take a very careful look at it. the experts that i've talked to, former civil rights prosecutors say unless there's new evidence that we don't know about, it would be a very difficult case to make. >> pete williams, nbc news, justice correspondent, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> you bet. >> turning to capitol hill, will senate leaders strike an 11th hour deal or are democrats preparing to go nuclear invoking constitutional option to change filibuster rules, a move they say is necessary to break unprecedented gridlock and

republicans argue will change the character of the institution forever. last night 98 members of the senate huddled in the senate chamber for a three and a half closed door caucus. lawmakers emerged calling the meeting, quote, refreshing, the best meeting senators had in five years. when pressed they said after all those good vibes, there's no deal. >> the night is late. we've been no breaks. we've been going steady in there. we've had a very good conversation. the conversation is going to continue tonight. the votes are scheduled at 10:00 in the morning. >> minority leaders mitch mcconnell issued a statement saying, quote, a clear bipartisan majority in the meeting believed leaders ought to find a solution and discussions will continue. reid pledged monday he will move to change the rules and filibusters on executive nominations if at least six republican senators do not join the democrats to reach the 60 votes needed to end debate.

on seven votes he called for this morning. early senator for american progress reid said it was time for the senate to, quote, evolve. >> my efforts are directed to save the senate from becoming obsolete. i love the senate. but right now the senate is broken and needs to be fixed. if the sky is falling and they think it's falling, let them stop the filibusters. we would have up or down votes on these people and go on with the business of the day. >> when it comes to filibuster, brinksmanship becomes bipartisanship at the moment senator mccain said there are seven who want to cut a deal. others in the conference are holding out for more and democrats are not on board. >> we're two nominations on the

nlrb away from resolving this. i think there's a 50/50 chance that we can pull back yet again from the brink as we did in december, as the senate did before me in 2005. nbc news senior political editor mark murray is here with the morning's first read. he joins me now. mark, seems we had this great moment of bipartisanship last night, senators really enjoyed their company but there is no deal forward as we know so far. one thing brought up by john mccain, the idea of seven contested individuals with the national labor relations board, gop. you can have those, won't block those, lets keep those going forward. harry reid is not willing to accept that deal. kind of interesting he wants to go all in. >> here is what we know. we don't have a deal yet. less than two hours votes on the executive appointees. first richard cordray, appointee

to head consumer financial board. if the republicans filibuster him or any of the seven nominees, harry reid says he's going to deploy that nuclear option. so we have kind of less than a two-hour window. you alluded to one of the sticking points, democrats are saying, look, we might be able to work out a deal on seven nominees so they don't get filibustered today. we want to be able to have the opportunity to deploy the nuclear option going forward. remember, there already is a vacancy at the department of homeland security. there could be other appointees in other big confirmation fights. democrats are saying, look, we wan to resolve this but also resolve future matters as well. >> obviously a history of senate changing its rules, founding of the institution. from where we sit politically, the election in 2014. does this not feed into gop idea of obama the imperial president who doesn't pay attention to rules. could this hurt dscc coming into

election. >> luke, i think this makes congress and senate look ridiculous to most observers. it's important to note this happened before in 2005 when republicans controlled the white house and senate. they pursued a similar type of nuclear deployment. this concerned george w. bush's judicial appointees. this brinksmanship worked out. got most of his appointees through, can a couple didn't go. in the senate, house, these deadlines, this brinksmanship is the only way to get things done. that makes people cynical about the process. >> aerosmith, living on the age. thanks. we appreciate it. coming up on "the daily rundown," any way to get past the senate stalemate. we'll go inside the closed-door meetings with two senators pushing for a fix. plus bipartisan for the effort to move military sexual assault cases from under the chain of command. what it means for the bill's future. first a look ahead at

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senate's own cold war. two sides of a standoff with the so-called nuclear option with democrats pushing for a change to senate rules and republicans threatening to retaliate on other front. how close are senate democrats and republicans to really pushing the button? joining me now is democratic senator from oregon who has been a leader on this call. thank you for joining me. >> you're so welcome, luke. >> you stated senate rules changed 18 times since 1977.

we're just a few hours away from d-day, if you will, on this issue. what are your thoughts moving forward? you think this is going to happen right now? does that excite you, these rule changes? >> here is the republican deal. my colleagues say the senate is supposed to be a cooling saucer referring to the conversation between jefferson and washington. it hasn't been a cooling saucer, it's been a deep freeze. nominations on the executive branch have been an escalating problem. they were zero from the time i was born until the time i first came to washington, d.c. when ford was president. there have been 16 just under the obama administration. that's just the final filibuster, if you will. that's preceded by all kinds of obstruction. denying quorum in committees, submitting 1,000 questions to mccarthy. every possible thing from the president putting his team in place and getting up and down votes. it has to end. >> i will ask you this, though, because republicans have said if

you guys move forward on this, they are going to cause a media gridlock in the aftermath, they are going to do everything they can to mess things up. is it worth it to get these seven folks forward and have republicans say we're going to bring wrath and fury for the rest of this congressional term, is that worth it? >> that's really a form of blackmail. quite frankly, senator reid has been so cautious about this, trying to get a gentlemen's agreement in january 2011, getting a small change of the rules and a commitment from the minority leader, the republican leader we return to the norms and traditions of the senate on nominations. but within days, within days the first ever filibuster of a defense secretary. then within weeks there was 43 senators vote writing they would vote against anyone voting against the consumer protection bureau. then anyone assigned to national labor relations board. so we did not get the commitment that mitch mcconnell promised of

we've had two gentlemen's agreement. that's what the caucus is saying. we would try to do it without rule changes. we would try to do it now if we could secure it in a firm fashion. address nominations need to be addressed to make the system work for working people. we're not getting it. thus this showdown. >> you guys obviously met late into the night. take me into the room. all these comments, so great, we got to hang out three hours, a fruitful discussion, yet there's no fruit. nothing came out of it. why is that? why after this long meeting where everyone seemed to get along we had no agreement? is that the no the senate in a nut shell? >> it's very different. here you had the television camera turned off, the confidence of the meeting, people saying what they felt. it's a frank discussion, the

type of discussion we don't have on the senate floor, the type of listening that takes place with senators we don't have in the modern senate. it was valuable in that sense. i hope each side understands each other better. i hope my republican colleagues understand they have pressed this to the brink. they have used the personal privilege to filibuster in such a systematic way it's unacceptable and deeply disturbing to the american people who want to see us addressing america and we have this petty partisan paralysis and it's unacceptable. >> senator, i want to ask you on another issue pertaining to a bill senator gillibrand is pushing trying to get sexual assaults under the chain of command in the military. picking up the support of ted crews, rand paul, conservative cover there. what is the outlook forward forward. they have rallied on the hill against it. from where it sits, do you think it has a chance moving forward?

>> going back decades, the tail hook incident, they have been trying to change the rhythm of the military on sexual assault, it hasn't succeeded. i support senator gillibrand's efforts. she's building momentum, gaining partners. i'm fully one of those partners to say we have to change the way we operate in the military. the current system, current effort to do it in the chain of command is not working. >> senator, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> good to be with you. coming up, we'll get the view from the other side of the aisle, senator roger wicker joins us next. first today's trivia yes. who was the first senator with an official website? the first to tweet @thedailyrundown "the daily rundown" will get an air shout. i guess i was wrong. my hint for you. come on back. every parent wants the safest and healthiest products for their family. that's why i created the honest company.

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as senate leaders try to negotiate a last minute deal to avert the so-called nuclear option to bust up the filibuster, some rank and file members reportedly are saying progress is being made. did anything come out of last night's closed-door meeting other than senators wishing they did that more often. joining me now republican roger wicker. senator wicker, that you so much for being on the show. >> glad to be on. thank you so much. >> you encouraged your colleagues to participate. obviously it was robust, three hours. you left last night saying reid won't take this deal allowing the next seven to go forward and operating business as usual. is that safe to say what that meeting told us? >> so far we don't have a deal but there are talks continuing and it seems like we always have to go to the brink in the united

states senate. so i think there's hope even yet. there's a clochure vote scheduled for 11:00 a.m. perhaps something will be worked out either then or during the course of the afternoon. >> from being thain room, talk about the feelings for your party. obviously you guys have offered a way forward for disputed nominees. reid wants more, wants this idea of never challenging these types of nominations moving forward. how is that sitting with the conference right now. >> actually, let me make it clear. there was an offer by the majority leader last saturday. republicans sort of bounced that issue around. it's clear that they were there were going to be at least six republicans to vote for it and

the majority leader with drew that offer. those are just the bare facts. let me say this. there are a lot of frustrations on both sides. republicans are frustrated at this recess appointment of two nlrb members, cordray, when the senate was not in recess, the fact the president was wrong on that has been upheld by a district court. now by the second highest court in the land. so we're very frustrated. we think it's an unconstitutional act. there are frustrations on the part of the democrats say we won't go to conference on the budget. the committee process is too slow. i understand all those frustrations, but changing the filibuster rule and essentially as a senior democrat said last night, breaking the senate rules to change the rules is a step that's not going to help those

frustrations. it has nothing to do with the real issues. the real issues are we can't seem to reach consensus and look past the next election to the next generation in this congress and united states. that's the real problem. >> what's your response to the folks that say, look, the president was elected by a large electoral college majority back in november. it's his job to appoint the people he sees fit into these positions. he's not able to do his job because of the gridlock by mitch mcconnell. does the president not have a right to appoint who he wants in these positions, having won the presidency? >> yes, i would say he does, and he's appointed over 1,000 no, ma'am he's and only four have been rejected. he's batting .999 in getting nominees through. there are protections for minority in a legislative body. even nominees that eventually

went on to be confirmed and now holding office, a minority has used that. my party has used that in the senate to get imported documents, to find out the basis of statements the administration has made and to move the departments and beaurocracy toward being responsive to the requests that really any citizen should be able to have answered, much less an elected representative of the united states senate. >> senator, real quickly, i wanted to get your opinion being a member of the armed services committee. senator gillibrand's bill from new york that would obviously take the sexual assault authority from under the chain of command in the military picking up big republican support with rand paul and where do you stand on that legislation and do you think it can move forward with that republican cover? >> i don't think it can move forward. i'm a retired judge advocate from the air force. i think you have support on both

sides of the aisle from my position that we need to come down heavy and hard on sexual assault and sexual harassment but we don't need to take the commanders out of that decision when it involves the military. we can do a lot better. but to take the commanders out of the chain of command is not a step we need to take. it would be unnecessary to solve the problem and would be harmful to good order of discipline in the military. >> snort, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thank you very much. up next domain dominance. how one guy managed to outsmart many of the top presidential campaigns the last 20 years. the deep dive is coming up. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc.

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big deef. what do chris christie, joe lieberman, john mccain have in common? outmaneuvered by political junky, bought potential domain names before he knew what hit them. he started snatching them up in the '90s, picking up mccain.org before he announced a run, a few years later lieberman.com, lieberman2004.org. he snagged bush.com ahead of the presidential election year. of course not every site he picks up pays off. would have represented a kerr

kerry/gibb hart ticket didn't pay off. candidates will pay big bounce to get hands on it. he's not doing it for money. he leverage the site for access to candidates. for example, in exchange for lieberman's do mains, they agreed to let deutsch spend a day on the trail with the presidential candidate. he got special access to a presidential rally bush and cheney after he handed over that address. he doesn't just go after potential domain names but alison grimes doesn't own allison for senate, he owns both. he does pay off, already looking ahead to 2016. michael deutsch joins me now. sir, thank you so much for joining us to talk about your very interesting hobby, a true political junky, i heard. you don't watch cable networks,

you watch c-span directly. you could be making a lot of money doing this, your hobby here. you don't want the money. you just want to be able to hang out with politicians. where does that come from? >> exactly right. i've been interested in politics many, many years. a while ago i tried to figure out how to get a look behind the scenes of one was the traditional method of giving hundreds of thousands to campaigns and asking for access. that wasn't going to happen with me. i tried to figure out a more interesting way to do that. purchasing these do mains often before the candidates announce and contributing to the campaigns opens a lot of doors. >> so talk to me about how the operatives reach out to you. obviously you have something they desperately want. bushcheney 2004.com, i imagine you fielded a few phone calls right off the bat. how is that negotiation process. what are they like when you say, no, i don't want money. i want to hang out with your candidate. >> campaigns react in many ways.

some are delighted someone purchased the campaign and wants to contribute it. others in disbelief, look a gift horse in the hands. some take the do mains and forget about me. i've learned a lot about human nature. one sued me, brought an arbitration action against me to get the domain back. it's been a full range of possibility. >> who forgot about you and sued you. >> organizing for action. the obama success campaign. stunning, biggest mistake they have seen, announced their formation of the organization and yet failed to register the domain names. >> that's remarkable. >> they sued you. >> it's called an arbitration action in the national arbitration form. they lost. we won unanimously. >> lets talk about one you thought you would have had big, kerrygebhardt.

reported he would be the campaign, andrea mitchell reported correctly it would be john edwards. you thought you had the democratic ticket in 2004 and pulled out from under you. >> you got it. you go from a hero to a bum overnight. i thought i hit the grand jackpot everybody tries to get, the presidential ticket and suddenly it didn't happen. what i did in that case the day after edwards was chosen, i did an auction on ebay for the kerry/geb hart name. got my money back. >> some sights, drinkmilk.com, stemcellresearch.com. >> this pays for my hobby. political activities are all money out. when i visit campaigns and travel with them, it's all on my dime i've got to get the revenue somewhere.

do i that. if you have a rich texan who would like to buy reschthealamo. an egyptian that wants to own tahrirsquare. >> tahrir square, remember the alamo. you're a prognosticator. i know you own jeb16.com. do you have any others? >> that's all i've got at the moment. this field has become very popular by people trying to make a lot of money. for example if you were going to run for president in '16, you would most likely find russert websites taken. >> the constitution prohibits me from running. michael deutsch, thank you for joining us. thanks for sharing interesting stories about your hobby. man sued for organizing america lived to talk about it on tv.

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no clear resolution seems to be in sight. so what's the chance for a deal between harry reid and mitch mcconnell today? lets bring in our gaggle, cnbc contributor and former white house political director sarah white house political director sarah and former pennsylvania congressman patrick murphy who is now a mans contributor on. very similar similar to being in chronic. sarah, i want to start out with you on this filibuster idea. congress is lot more ruthless when it comes to getting things through congress. it's out there. but if the democrats were to do this from your knowledge of republican politics, there would be -- we will get you back on this, right? this would be imprinted in the forefront of a lot of republican

mind saying you guys stepped way too far and we are going to hammer you similar to this. is that worth a risk for harry reid and the democrats? >> it's a very fair question. i think the answer is if this haps more today it is likely in the future it will occur. step back to 2005. bush had nine judicial poim appointments. they got votes on three of them. what we see out of the senate democrats is they want the whole shebang. they want every one of these nominees confirmed. the question is is it going to happen? i think the question is are democrats willing to let some of these nominees willing to go? >> they are talking about the judicial branch and talking if you're a senate republican a pretty good chance that republicans take over the senate in 2014. >> there were a hundred by the

democrats but 400 filibusters. >> let's not forgot more of president obama's nominees have been confirmed than either of clinton or bush. he's had a pretty good success rate getting people through the senate. >> what do you think the supreme court decision take take up the recess appointments do to all f this? it could help the republicans in the ballot box. >> listen, i used to teach constitutional law at west point. the only time in the constitution are for treaties. the only person who thinks

congress or senate is working in america is mitch mcconnell. the gridlock is really the problem. >> that's why you hear from folks like john mccain, they are sick of it. i've staked out some of these meetings. they say they are sick of the gridlock and bickering and nothing gets done and everyone in america you look at the polls that show that americans have no faith in congress at this point. at some point, they want to get something done. >> let's turn to another issue. the idea by senator gillibrand take how the milt pursues sexual assault under the chain of command. we had roger on here earlier who said he was not in support of that. you see rand paul and ted cruz supporting this bill and seem to giving it republican cover. why are they doing this and how is it moving forward? >> you see the gillibrand

underdog mental to get to this point now. on the left people like senator boxer coming together on this because it is such an epidemic. you know as well as i do, luke, there are 26,000 sexual assaults a year. 6% of the women in the military and only 11% of them, 11% report it so almost 90% don't report it. i used to be a former judge advocate. it is a problem. it needs to be an independent military structure and that is all we are asking for mere. >> sarah, real quick. do you think the gop could run into this sort of war on women problem they had in 2012 if they try and block this, they don't get behind this? >> no, i don't think so. there is bipartisan support for her bill now and noticeable bipartisan support but also bipartisan opposition. they want to keep in this in the military ranks. the challenge for the military they have not dealt with this issue appropriately and senator gillibrand wouldn't have a cause if the military would come out

and doo with this forcefully which they have not not. >> we sort of cast it as war on women but it's 53% of these people who have been assaulted are actually men. the military has a single position on american culture. it is the most respected institution out of everything and so i think it is a risk going up against them but as you said i think they do need to figure out what to do. >> shameless plugs around the horn. start us off. >> the think progress blog will now have a sports section. >> wow! >> alice reed who is leading, partly, our efforts at the post. >> yeah. >> she used to do work over here and delight fulve to woful to w >> great person. >> shelter for homeless families and abused women, check it out. >> we like alice reed and we like sports and i want to give my shameless plug to bryce harper. you came in second, last night.

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zimmerman's voice screaming for help on 911. she described zimmerman as a man frustrated with robberies in his area who went too far in an interview with cnn. >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in right place but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhoods and wanting to catch these people so badly that he went above and beyond what he really should have done, but i think his heart was in the right place. it just went terribly wrong. >> do you think he is guilty of something? >> i think he's guilty of not using good judgment. when he was in the car and he had called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car. >> overnight in los angeles, protests turned vit.