joe." right now, guess what, it's time for "the daily rundown." >> with chuck todd. >> chucky. >> love chuck. >> code blue. after years of health care fights that only got more intense after the new law was approved, president obama and his allies have a crucial couple of months ahead to get the message right. and that push starts in earnest when the president speaks in just two hours. overseas, secretary kerry tries to kick start peace talkings with israeli and palestinian leaders. but the real problems in the middle east are elsewhere. the continuing crisis in syria and uncertainty in egypt about where things are headed. that's all in today's "deep dive." liz cheney launches her senate bid with some age old politics in the old west. the republican rift won't change who runs the senate but will it help or hurt the gop's national brand plans? good morning. it's thursday, july 18th, 2013.

let's get right to my first reads of the morning. president obama will make another seemingly endless attempt to do what has become his great et domestic challenge, selling the health care law to the american public. this morning, he'll argue that implementation of health care reform is already working. and he'll hold up as proof half a billion dollars of rebates the white house says insurance companies are being forced to make to 8.5 million consumers. >> we hear a lot about what the law might do or could do. but tomorrow, the president will detail one concrete way that americans who have health insurance today are affected by the law. this summer, 8.5 million consumers are receiving half a billion dollars in rebates. >> the president will also highlight a new study from the department of health and human services suggesting that insurance premiums for 2014 will be lower in states operating

their own insurance. premiums for some new yorkers are expected to be up to 50% cheaper when the state's health insurance marketplace opens on october 1st. given the pr debacle has followed them, they have to get it right. on two blogs over the fourth of july holiday weekend that it would delay a key part of the reform, employer mandate, but is on target to open the health ibs mark insurance marketplace on october 1st is the latest debacle. an entire political party remakes adamantly opposed to it. yes, the media's coverage has also emphasized what's not working rather than what is. here's the pr reality for the bn obama white house. one side has been lobbing grenades on a daily basis. to delay the individual mandate. while the other side has been sitting there quietly. that was the case again yesterday when the republican-controlled house took their 38th and 39th votes to

eliminate, cut funding to, or scale back the health care law. the house voted to delay the employer mandate. the house also voted 251 to 174 to delay the individual mandate. 22 democrats joined republicans on that one. >> then speaker pelosi said that you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. we know now that the administration has read the bill and they know it will not work. what the president said about the mandate on businesses. but we believe individuals should be treated the same. >> by the way, those 22 democrats we'll get to in a minute, have voted with the republicans on both those bills, they're basically self-selecting themselves as who they bleaelie are the most vulnerable into 2014. here's how jay carney responded to the house. >> there are few things more cynical than house republicans who have made it their mission in life to repeal the affordable

care act and deny the american people the benefits that they would receive from implementation of the affordable care act. claiming that they are concerned about the delay of the implementation of a relatively small provision within the affordable care act. you know that. everybody in this room knows it. most of the american people understand that. >> but for the small sliver of democrats, their concern. here's the cheat sheet, if you will. the democrats who believe they're the most vulnerable in 2014. they come from a who's who of swing districts. even some romney states and of course romney districts in blue states. the bottom line is the health care law remains very unpopular overall. just 37% called it a good idea in our last poll. 49% a bad idea. those numbers are down from a year ago. the white house argues polling is a political litmus test. that it doesn't tell you about people's experience which is

really just starting to happen and that given the fact that 8 in 10 americans already have health care, that selling of health care will be judged by whether the 2 in 10 who don't sign up and whether they do sign up. saying they are the ones they will try to reach in the fall from october 1st to april. we'll see. by the way, the guy who called health care a train wreck, to republican glee, penned sort a walkback for politico. senator baucus defended the delay in the employer mandate. writing, i'm sure this was a tough call, but it was the right one. it shows the administration is listen being to the business community and working to address its concerns as well. as the concerns of congress. i was one of those with concerns. we shall see. well, remember all the divisive 2014 primaries that were supposed to fracture the party? so far, they actually haven't happened. in fact, it's the one thing about liz cheney's challenge in wyoming to mike enzi that it reminds us of. he's the only republican incumbent now who has a serious

intraparty challenge on his hands. lindsey graham whose conservative credentials were supposed to be challenged in south carolina doesn't seem to have a primary opponent. at least not one yet. there's still a filing deadline in a few months. neither does minority leader mitch mcconnell. texas senator john cornyn, nope. lee mar alexander, not happening. a year ago, who would have thought out of all those gop senate incumbents we just mentioned, it would be enzi being the only one so far facing a real primary fight. well, it's going to be a ducey. a fun one to watch. yesterday inp with well liz cheney made her primary challenge to enzi official. calling for, quote, a new generation of conservative leaders in washington. >> if we're passive, if we fail to take up this fight, if we fail to defend our nation against these destructive policies, our very freedoms will be at risk. >> cheney denies that she ever

promised enzi she would not run for the seat if he were planning to run for re-election. >> i think senator enzi may be confused. i think he may have me mixed up with cynthia lumes. i did not tell senator enzi hi wouldn't run if he did. i suppose he's just confused. >> being, that confused line has some wondering if cheney's trying to play up the age difference between the two of them. the fact is, her comment about a new generation is perfectly reasonable for any candidate having to make the case to voters why me and not him. of course there's a line. if she looks like she's bullying him or attacking him for his age, it always has the potential to back fire especially in a state that's not necessarily known for its politicsability bean bag reputation. as for the carpetbagger charge lobbed at cheney, including from the congresswoman who has her own political ambitions. take a listen. >> the manner in which she's chosen to roll out her candidacy

is not in keeping with the decorum that we're accustomed to in wyoming. i really think that there's some cultural differences in being a virginia republican and a wyoming republican. >> well, there you go. doing enzi's dirty work for him there. cheney who chose to roll out her campaign in casper where she spent her elementary school years rather than in jackson where she lives now responded to the charge yesterday. >> i'm a fourth generation wyomingite. my family first settled here in 1907. it's always been the place that we return to. it's where my heart is. i tend to think the people who make the carpetbagger charge make it because they want to avoid talking about substance and issues but i intend to run a campaign focused entirely on policy and substance. >> meanwhile, mike enzi told our own kelly o'donnell that cheney's bid won't stop him from running for re-election. >> i keep being asked and i keep giving the same answer.

and i don't know how else to answer. >> at 69, you don't feel like it's time to retire? >> absolutely not. around here, that's median age. i'm in good health. i'm on the committees that can really make a did i refference. i prefer to talk about the time in office to gain trust of your fellow senators. that's how you get things done. you really don't get things just talking to a few people on your own side of the aisle. >> interestingly, enzi is a longtime cheney family friend, but he demured when he was asked if he was close to liz. >> i haven't known her very well. she's been in and out of wyoming a bit. and i've seen her at several meetings. but i can't say that i know her. i fished with her dad. he and i have anchored the one fly-fishing contest before. >> have you heard from the former vice president?

>> no, i haven't. >> if you had a chance to speak to him about this issue, what would you say? >> if he doesn't need to speak to me, i don't need to speak to him about it. somebody asked me if he was going to support his daughter. being he's going to support his daughter. i would support my daughter if she were running for something. >> cheney is expected to raise big money for the primary fight next year. enzi who says he does not talk about his opponents did make it clear he doesn't believe that will go over so well in the cowboy state. >> the first time i ran for this office, i announced in april for an august primary and had eight opponents in that primary. wyoming people don't like a long campaign. they don't like all the negative ads. i never do negative ads. but anybody that's from wyoming would know that. >> i tell you, it is striking, by the way, when you see the way enzi is practicing politics. me does seem like man of another era when he's talking about the

way campaigns are run in wyoming. we saw the way this broke out between lugar and murdoch. history can sort of -- if history is a guide here, enzi may not be answering the way he's going to wish he had answered, say, in six months, talking about seniority, talking about median age in the senate and things like that. secretary of state kerry continues in the middle east today. where he tib continues to believe there's new hope for the stalled peace talks. the state department announced kerry is staying an extra day in jordan while president mahmoud abbas meets with palestinian leaders to discuss the idea of just simply resuming negotiations. all of these are about starting negotiations. the details of this proposal are not public. whether abbas could sell any plan to his people is even more unclear. secretary kerry said wednesday the gaps between israelis and palestinians have narrowed, quote, very significantly. while there are signs progress on one front, the situation in other parts of the middle east is not so good. particularly in syria where it continues to deteriorate.

front page of "new york times" declares, momentum shifts in syria, bolstering assad's position. think about that. saying that assad is consolidating power in central syria while the rebel movement becomes increasingly fractious and ineffective. secretary kerry met with syrian refugees who expressed anger at the international community for what they say is a failure to act. speaking after the meeting, kerry said that refugees help do put a human face on the suffering. >> this is building into one of the great humanitarian crisis on the face of the planet and it's getting worse by the day, not better. we are working at this. it's not simple , it's not easy. but i share their passion and frustration for the plight they face. the destruction of their hopes, their villages, their cities. and the loss in many cases of

many members their families. we're all working to find a solution to it. >> the white house wednesday, press secretary jay carney reiterated the u.s. is working with our allies to assist the syrian opposition and isolate the assad regime. >> so our focus is on ramping up our aid to the syrian opposition, working with our allies and partners and the syrian opposition to strengthen the opposition in its resistance to assad. and to push forward towards a negotiated settlement that leads to the transition away from assad that is essential for syria's future. >> the syrian rebels say they've not seen the weapon supplies that were expected. whatever the u.s. promised the rebels is being slow-walked and the longer the delay, the better the situation becomes for assad. on the hill, the nominee to be the next u.s. ambassador to the united nations blasted the u.n. for failing to act on syria. >> we see the failure of the

u.n. security council to respond to the slaughter in syria, a disgrace that history will judge harshly. >> we're going to talk more about this middle east crisis in our deep dive including the latest from egypt as well. the fact of the matter is, this policy, what is it in syria, it's a mess right now. also coming up, we have the filibuster fix, student loan deal. what's next? is the senate shaking off the compromise cobwebs again? democratic senator chris murphy will be here. nelson mandela's health. on the day he turns 95 years old, he may be leaving the hospital. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. we told you about the health care event. rick perry signs that abortion bill today in texas. the news here will probably be health care. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ phil ] when you have joint pain and stiffness...

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we had a couple more show votes yesterday in the house. voting to delay parts of the health care reform laws. following largely upon party lines it the house mooed for a one-year delay of the employer and individual mandates. the democrat controlled senate. joining me now is senator chris moi murphy. he voted in favor the return when he was a member of the house. before i get to health care, i just -- last week, in washington, it seemed so toxic. it seemed like the two parties were about to go down an even more bitter path than we've seen in quite some time in both the

housing and the senate. but in particular, the senate. then you guys met in the old chamber monday night. and all of a sudden, it seems like bipartisanship's breaking out all over the place. is this a knee jerk reaction from monday night? or, you know, is this a -- has this been percolating for a while and some senators in the middle just needed a chance to start talking again with each other? >> yeah, bipartisanship is breaking out all over the place for a week. >> i know, that's why i'm being very careful here. off of one great week. let's see what happens. >> who knows how long this lasts. i think we've learned one lesson here. either time you cut a deal with miss mcconnell and the republicans, it seems like good will only lasts a handful of days. i feel like we should rip the band aid off. i think the rules we have make absolutely no sense. i'm somebody that would like to see us get rid of the filibuster. it was one of the more amazing three hours i've spent. it was so clear from republicans

and democrats that they wanted to avoid this big blow up. i wasn't necessarily one of them that thought we should avoid it but that's clearly where the group wanted to get to. and that was the result. i mean, there is this emerging group of republicans that really don't like the place that paul and ted cruz and mike lee are going. i mean, there is a group of reasonable republicans that want to reach out across the aisle. i think meetings like that empower them. because they see that, you know, the democrats don't have horns like we may be portrayed in their caucus sometime. i think there may be a per nent permanent coalition across the aisle starting to emerge here. i'm not totally optimistic this is going to last much longer. >> you make a fair point, one week does not make a trend. i want to move on to health care watch and what the president's doing today. when it comes to health care, you come from a -- you were a semiswing district. at times, connecticut was a

swing district. you made it less so when you represented it. the health care law in swing districts, we saw some house democrats yesterday. they voted with republicans on a show vote. a meaningless vote because the senate's not taking up any of these bills. if you were still a house democrat representing connecticut five. by the way, your replacement voted with the republicans on this. if you were still in connecticut 5, what do you need from the president to make your re-election easier? what do you need from him? >> what will make this exchange work is that people sign up for it. so what we need from the administration is a huge public relations campaign. which they're doing. i would argue they're maybe not doing it enough in states like connecticut where wear running these state-based exchanges. that really is the difference between this being an election year issue and it being a success. so we need the administration out there. letting people know especially those younger voters and those younger consumers in their 20s

and 30s how good those exchanges will be. if people sign up, then this thing is going to be a relative success. even in the beginning and middle of next year. so that's really what we need from the president. i get it. there are a handful of democrats that voted against the bill in the first place. there's always going to be those who don't like health care reform. postponing the individual mandate is a terrible idea. the bill doesn't work without it. so it's just another show vote. i don't know how many they've had. 40 or 50 different votes to repeal health care reform. it's clearly going nowhere. i think the bill with the president's public relations campaign will work. >> you say that though but the public relations campaigns haven't worked before. why is it different this time? >> this is different because there's a real benefit on the other side for consumers. once you let people know the reasonable rates in the exchange that they can get, the benefits in the exchange, people are going to sign up. right now when i go around connecticut, people do not know the options they have.

i walked into a convenience store and the clerk who has $5,000 of bills stacked up had no idea she was going to qualify for a really generous subsidy to get her health care insurance. once people know about it, i think they will be part of it. that's different than trying to sell a piece of legislation that is only sort of projected to help people. this is actually going to help people if they take advantage of it. >> i want to get to a couple foreign policy things in the news. yesterday, lindsey graham and chuck schumer both seemed -- lindsey graham is touting this idea of boy counting -- the u.s. boycotting the olympics but he threw in maybe the u.s. subbing russia for the g-20 in september. chuck schumer didn't get quite there with boycotting but he said he understood lindsey graham's frustration with russia. could you support some sort of public, you know, symbolic punishment of russia over snowden? >> well, it's not just about snowed be. i mean, i absolutely think the united states needs to start playing hard ball with the russians. because what we're seeing is,

along with their obstinance on snowden, a real quick degradation of splcivil societyd the way they treat political dissentients. this place is turning into something that looks exactly like cold war russia. and, you know, we have to let them know that's not okay. i don't know that the olympics is necessarily the right place. we clearly need to send some signals to them. also they need to stop this slide essentially back into the kind of politics we got used to over the course the cold war. >> do we have a policy to support our position? if the u.s. position is assad has to go, do we have a policy in the united states that supports that position? >> i don't think we can. i've been one of the handful that's opposed arming the syrian rebels. i ultimately don't think we can turn the momentum.

as the "times" reported this morning, as you noted, the syrian opposition is more fractured than ever. we're going to send a bunch of very dangerous very high-powered weapons, and they're going to seep into the hands of al qaeda, who is fighting next to free syria army. i thought it was unlikely the kind of arms we were talking about without a no-fly zone was actually going to tip the balance. even if we could tip the balance, there's just going to be a civil war after the revolution. that, frankly, with american arms on the ground, will just lead to more blood shed. you're seeing yesterday the british start to back away from supporting arming the rebels. you're seeing more reluctance here on the hill. i thing thk this is a bad idea. there may be reevaluation happening. of whether we can really change the situation on the ground. if we can't, then i'm not sure we should be in this business. >> very interesting. chris murphy, democratic senator from connecticut, thanks for

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it's a 34 member cabinet sworn in on tuesday made up of entirely the liberal side of the political spectrum there. the muslim brotherhood refusing to participate in what it calls an illegitimate government. the latest in a string of power shifts since 2011 when 18 days of protest ended a nearly 30 year regime in egypt. of course this has been all over the middle east. mubar mubarak resigned. soon after, eventually elected a muslim brotherhood candidate. mohamed morsi as president. but frustrated by a deteriorating security situation, thousands pushed for change. for the second time in 2 1/2 years, the army ousted egypt's leader. this week, deputy secretary of state bill burns met with interim leaders. becoming the first top level u.s. official to visit egypt since the military took power. he has pointedly avoided calling the situation an official coup. speaking in jordan on wednesday,

secretary of state john kerry raised the importance of the situation in egypt. >> the challenge of egypt is very real. egypt is important and it's important that i came here to discuss it because egypt is vital to the security of the region. >> joining me now is the former u.s. ambassador to nato, nicholas burns. i believe no relation to bill burns? >> 100% correct, no relation. >> i was pretty sure, but you never know. eventually we're all related. >> but he's a good friend. >> all right, ambassador, good to see you. i want to start with what's going on first in egypt in this foray by the united states. so sending a diplomat, working with this interim government. it's pretty clear now we've sent the official message, we don't believe this was a coup. are we sending a message that we actually approved of what the egyptian military did? >> i think the administration, chuck, is facing reality. this is about as tough as it

gets in international diplomacy. because you can see the united states faces overlapping and contradictory objectives. on the one hand, we've got to stay close to the military because they're the key to the peace with israel. the camp david peace accords from '79. they're the key to fighting terrorist groups in the middle east and blocking iran. so we need the military. on the other hand, there isn't going to be peace in egypt and isn't going to be stability unless there's an inclusive political process. the u.s. has to also push the military to open up the political system eventually to a new constitution and new elections that would include the muslim brotherhood and the other islamist parties. so those are contradictory ambiti ambitions. we've got to try to achieve both i'm tap simultaneously. there's no other alternative. >> it's still not clear morsi's been released. if the muslim brotherhood's not participating, how important is it? do you think there's any chance the united states could actually

play mediator here and somehow get the muslim brotherhood to play in this new regime? >> my guess is the administration's going to have to be a mediator. we're the most influential country in egypt. you can see from deputy secretary bill burn's visit, to what john kerry's doing, to what our ambassador's doing. we're trying to keep our lines open to all the different political parties. they do listen to us. we have some influence. that's the kind of egypt that eventually over time we're going to want to see develop. one that is more tolerant and that has a capacity to have a political system where everyone can compete. that's not the case right now. the muslim brotherhood is staying out of this process. we we've got to continue to push in that direction. >> clearly, we had a hands-on role, administration officials saying the mistake they made was there wasn't enough hands on deck in egypt to help them prop up this new democracy and things

like that. let's move to syria. we have a policy on syria, or a position, excuse me, that we think assad should go. other than that, though, it doesn't appear there's a policy to support that position anymore. and i don't know if you heard my interview with senator murphy from connecticut. he seemed to say, you know what, even our allies are starting to back away from arming the syrian rebels. what do we do now with syria? >> well, i think the administration has to answer some very difficult questions. you're right, chuck, the established position of the administration is that assad must go, that he mutt least lea power. and we want some coalition to emerge behind him. there's a vicious civil war over there. well over 1 million refugees. it's a catastrophe for the syrian people. the danger for the united states is this conflict might spread into lebanon, into iraq, jordan, turkey. it might inflame the entire region. it's not going to be

extinguished soon. one option for the administration is make good on the position it announced. arm the moderate rebel groups. try to work with them to provide more effective lying on the support of hezbollah and iran. we have to make a decision, are we in in terms of giving broader political support to the rebels, or are we going to stay on the sidelines? >> yesterday, watching the confirmation hearing of samantha power, and it's likely she's going to get confirmed. she's got a pretty good bipartisan coalition of senators already. she was strongly condemning basically russia and china who stood in the way when it comes to syria. she was condemning the entire united nations. really, this is about russia in particular more than anybody else standing in the way of there being an international condemnation on assad and syria.

is that what the united states -- is that the only -- is that really the only reasonable way to go at this point? try to see if you get russia to back off supporting assad? because it seems threats of having new state sponsors on the side of the rebels, while we have threatened to do that, we haven't done that. >> well, i don't think it's realistic to assume right now, 2 1/2 years into this revolution, that russia's simply going to cease supporting the assad government. russia has a foot hold there. its last military base outside of russia is in syria. it sees an opportunity to limit and block the united states and the europeans. and it is taking that opportunity. and it's coallessed with hezbollah and iran. i don't see that as a real it'sic straigit's realistic strategy. what would be realistic is to step up u.s. support to the moderate rebel groups and perhaps, over type, with turkey and the other arab countries,

that would take away assad's major advantage. he's shelling civilians and killing civilians by the thousands because he has no opposition in the air. we've got to make a basic decision. are we in this or not in it? i don't mean troops on the ground but in the struggle. >> no, i understand. >> and that's where the american position right now is at such a delicate but important juncture. >> in libya, britain and france were in. made it easier for the u.s. to be in. because how many times has the u.s. been in on something and basically dragged the brits and french with them? this time, it seemed like while the brits and french were one time in, they're backing off. does that make it harder for the united states? >> it makes it harder to britain redraws. we do have turkey, our nato ally, which very much wants a more activist american policy. we'd have the support of the most powerful and wealthiest arab countries. saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, kuwait and even qatar.

there's an administration the u.s. can put together. not just to block assad, that's strategically important being, but also to help the refugees. there's no effective international support right now for them. that has to be an imperative. just on a humanitarian basis. >> i think it's getting up to over 1 million refugees at this point. anyway, ambassador burns, thank you. we'll be right back. the gaggle is here. lots of stuff to go through. first, white house soup of the day. it's thursday, so for no particular reason, it's chicken tortilla. we'll be right back.

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mean all these things. it's driven up the negatives and a one sided conversation, right? we've seen these six what is it, some $600 million has been spent on tv ads, a million anti-obama care a fifth pro obama care. at some point he has to fix this. . >> what they are trying to do now it's not a matter of going up in the polls it's a matter of implementation. if they don't sell these things like exchanges this falls apart. the problem is you can do all the pr campaigns you want to tell the young people the exchanges are great if they go in and plans are not great and rate shock -- >> is the republican strategy to scare people from signing up so that it all comes apart. >> the republican strategy is to keep opposing the bill for the same reasons that they posed prit the beginning. it won't work. you saw the house take action yesterday to say if you're going to get rid of one piece you have

to get rid of the mandates for individuals as well. you >> house republicans say great. we can run the same campaign in 2010. they are lining up floats to do the same thing and you have a chunk of house democrats who think that's what they are doing and i'm scared. >> they are licking their chops over at the rnc over this. i spoke to a senior republican leader and he said that they are absolutely going to do the mid-term campaign about this. you saw the two votes yesterday. what's the line out from boehner and cantor. basic fairness. the obama wants to give business a pass while sticking to the american working consumer. almost a democratic point -- >> tough for republicans to sell that. >> however, it just add this idea which republicans think is beneficial that the president is overreaching here. that he's putting his own interests above your interests and that you don't understand your health care bill, your don't understand what's coming in the mail that will benefit the gop. >> lieu snis

>> the pile on has happened. this is what's happened the white house pr strategy is they take this incoming and don't necessarily fight back very well. >> they need to fight back because republicans are still fighting social security and medicare. in new york they announced premiums will drop by half for people who buy insurance on their own this is the type of things that will make this law successful. implementation is the key. for those democrats getting scared about this republican offensive to stand up and defend what they voted for and to defend this bill because at the end cht day people will superimportant it. >> is the white house's biggest challenge is the fact that the people that get the most benefit aren't a majority. a majority don't see much change at all. you have this chunk in the middle and some people who were individual holders who were going see, healthy people will see rates go up. people that used to help the health care system a lot will see benefit. >> people are seeing the benefit. if you go in for your yearly checkup you no longer pay a

co-pay for that. people see a benefit. the fact is even if you're healthy and not directly affected you know someone with a pre-existing condition that's benefitted by the fact that they don't have to be worried about going broke just because they got sick. there's a benefit. they have to do a more aggressive job of selling it. that's happening already. i think the key here is that you can't have the people who voted for it, who supported it in congress go out and not defend it forcefully and allow republicans to put them against the wall. >> talked to a lot of house democrats. a lot are angry at the administration because they haven't felt the administration has done an adequate sell job. democrats lost their jobs over this. this is the one large domestic priority your guys were able to put through. why don't you sell it, enforce it. do it. they are flabbergasted in 2013 it's still not up. >> is there an unintended k consequence that in the blue

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