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because this is setting a terrible message. >> live this morning on the "today" show, both parents said the verdict was stunning. >> still shocked. still in disbelief. we felt in our hearts that we were going to get a conviction. >> yes. i think we were disappointed. >> i just didn't understand, how can you let a killer of an unarmed child go free? what would have -- what would your verdict have been had it been your child? and there's no witnesses in this case at all, but it was just -- i want them to put theirselves in our shoes. >> right now the congressional black caucus is preparing a flurry of bills in response to the case. leading this charge is

democratic congressman john canyers of washington. that's according to the hill paper. the hill also notes partisanship leaves members seeking other solutions. last year democratic congresswoman sheila jackson lee of texas responded to the zimmerman shooting with legislation requiring all neighborhood watch volunteers to register, but this year she's withholding that proposal according to the hill her spokesperson said, we just don't see it being politically viable at this moment. joining me now, msnbc.com national reporter, and reporter for the griea.com. i want to get your thoughts on the first tv interview with trayvon martin's parents. they have hit all of the major networks. that said to me that they don't want to limit this message. they don't want this to be about one network owning their story

or one reporter, they want to own their son's story and move this forward. >> definitely. they are really focusing on this foundation now, the trayvon martin foundation. this foundation is going to focus on supporting parents going through what they've gone through. it will include more legislation that will either repeal stand your ground laws or at least adds an amendment that makes it less difficult for someone to use that in a defense case if they're the aggressor. >> is this similar to twhat newtown families did, and that is since they went to congress, they went to capitol hill and they turned into lobbyists. >> exactly. >> they became lobbyist representatives for their children. is that what trayvon martin's parents are doing? >> that's where their focus is and they're taking their grief and fueling a movement to prevent this from happening again. they want to empower young people so that if they're not in a situation trayvon was in, they

won't be in any kind of gun violence. >> tre main, let me say what sabrina said about her son's point of view and whether the jury looked at that. let's take a listen. >> do you understand jurors, do you understand how they might have found reasonable doubt? >> i don't understand if they were looking at it from trayvon's point of view because he was a teenager. he was scared. he did run. as far as if he ran home or not, i mean, if somebody is chasing me, i don't think i would run home and bring them to my house. >> tremain, the family wants to move forward and focus on the foundation. the real story here is understanding the jury, why this happened. so they are still in the moment understandably. >> i think what we're telling with for this jury, we're dealing with these cultural factors. b-37 said they empathized with poor george.

poor george was doing his job. the parents are saying, poor trayvon. halftime. come on. they have no recourse now. where do we move forward from here. >> that's the big question. i want to play in part of moving forward depending on your point of view is the conversation on race. there have been a number of columnists who say this has nothing to do with race. there have been incendiary remarks but let me play what tracy martin said about rasz and what role it played in his son's case. >> obviously any time you have a person that makes an assumption that a person is up to no good, there's some type of profiling there. was he racially profiled? i think that if trayvon had been white, this wouldn't have never happened. >> so traymaine, you have some people who said, listen, black boys don't have to be worried

about a scary white man following him, that it's the other black guy in their class, in their neighborhood. this continues to be the response by some conservatives and others quite honestly. i think tracy martin brings this back to home when he says if trayvon had been white, would this have ever happened? >> and we continue to have this conversation about race and hopefully it bubbles into all of america's households. sometimes we can talk we have to give our black boys, and i wonder are white families having that conversation with their white boys -- >> do you wonder or do you know? >> i don't know. i wouldn't surmise either way. you hope there is a point in society that we would be talking about treating folks equally. >> that's not what i meant to say. when you say you wonder if white families are having this conversation, how often does a white mother have to sit their son down and say, be careful when the cops pull you over, hold onto the steering wheel because we don't want him to think that you're about to do something. that's what i meant by that. >> i don't know.

i've never been in white families but the onus tends to be on us, that black boys can't run too fast. you have to keep your hands on the steering wheel. that's inherently not fair. i still think we're stuck in the position. what the family is trying to do is move us forward. we see how the issue has galvenized folks around the country and rallying around stand your ground laws and antiprofiling laws. in thinks death will this carry forward with every family in america. >> let me play forward what sabrina said. let's play it. >> it's sending a terrible message to other little black and brown boys that you can't walk fast, you can't walk slow. so what do they do? i mean, how do you get home without people nothing or assuming that you're doing something wrong. trayvon wasn't doing anything wrong. >> when asked what she wanted from the president, she said she wants him to examine this case, obviously department of justice. it was in 2003 that the associated press points out that

senator obama and other colleagues passed bills requiring police to keep track and analyze the demographics of drivers they pulled over and prevent wrongful convictions by requiring police to video interviews. he talked about and wrote about being a young man in new york trying to hail a cab and not being able to do so. are people ready to see him on camera or is that unfair because he's the first african-american president? >> i think the burden of proof is very high. president obama will ask this question if he speaks about this being very realistic. he's a lawyer himself. the department of justice to make a federal hate crime to stick, he will have to prove the prosecution failed to prove that george zimmerman acted with

malice aforethought. the president knows that that's probably not likely and he's going to enter this sensitively if he ever does. that's something people need to prepare for themselves. they're not going to get them to answer a question in an unrealistic manner. that's something that the department of justice is going to have to field but they can't expect the president to do that. >> do you think that perhaps the expectations might be too high for what people, particularly african-americans, would want from him? >> yes. i think the expectation is way too high. he can't weigh in on this specifically but regarding the racial question, that's a question of law that is a high burden of proof for the doj. >> thank you. we hope to be joined by congressman james clay burn to talk more about the actions of the congressional black caucus. in the meantime, as you hear much more from trayvon, we will hear much more from trayvon martin's parents. they'll spend the entire hour with the reverend al sharpton qbes. that's qbes are the reverend al

6:00 p.m. eastern qbes here on msnbc. make sure to watch that. six months into his second term president obama is back on the defensive in the fight over health care reform. a day after republicans held yesterday another vote to delay the affordable care act, president obama delivered another address touting the benefits of the law. he also chided republicans for ignoring other important issues like immigration reform and the farm bill. >> we're refighting these old battles. sometimes i just try to figure out why. maybe they think it's good politics, but part of our job here is not to always think about politics. part of our job here is to sometimes think about getting work done on behalf of the american people. >> the affordable care act was signed into law over three years ago. it's scheduled to take effect in

75 days, but house republicans spurred by the white house's recent decision to delay the so-called employer mandate passed two measures yesterday delaying the individual and employer mandates. now the president's address also comes amid dwindling supports for the health care law. in fact a recent nbc wall street journal poll showed that 37% of the public believes a law is a good idea. there's still some good news for the administration. a new government poll finding health care premiums will be lower than forecast and in some places like new york they'll be as much as 50% lower. joining me now live from the white house, nbc's kristin welker. kristin, we see the president using a little bit of humor. they always say a joke is funny because people think it's true. obviously the people there are supporters of the affordable care act. but the damage in some ways has been done. i think one analyst said it's always easier to make the

affordable care act easier than to educate them how it benefits them? >> reporter: absolutely, tamron. the campaign to bring down the affordable care act has been a strong one on the part of the republicans. part of what you saw today is president obama answering that. this is his third such event that he has held this year really trying to counter those arguments and to bring in those people who are skeptical about the affordable care act. today he made the case that as of this summer 8.5 million consumers will receive rebates. that is because of a provision within the act that requires insurance companies to pay at least 80% of their proceeds to medical care and if they fail to do that, then they have to potentially give consumers rebates. so the obama administration highlighting that bit of good news. also the bit of good news that you've pointed out, tamron, report by the hhs which showed

that 11 states are predicting that health care premiums will go down once the affordable care act is completely enacted. but as you say, the white house just two weeks ago essentially gave republicans a bit of a boost by delaying the employer mandate that employers that have 50 employees or more provide coverage to full-term employees. republicans have really seized upon that to build up their argument that, look, this is going to be difficult to implement and it could ultimately wind up costing employers more. what you're going to see in the future, tamron, the white house really needs young people to sign up. of course, that signing up period really begins in october so i think you're going to see a really strong push to make sure that young people sign up. >> how are they doing that, kristin? do we know anymore regarding the plan to get more young people to sign up, healthy young people obviously, as well as i understand from some reporting, to get more minorities on board?

>> reporter: absolutely. i think you're going to see a campaign sort of directed at them. in fact, i just asked white house press secretary jay carney to give us more specifics if the president would be speaking to audiences of young people. he wouldn't read out any events on the who ahorizon but i think are going to see this because typically they are in lower income categories. typically they don't feel that they are necessarily likely to get sick so they're a harder group to basically encourage to sign up for something like health care. so i think you're going to see more events like the one we saw today, a really strong pr push by the white house heading into that period. >> kristin welker, thank you very much. coming up, mcdonald's is getting fried over an online budget tool to help employees manage their budgets. this assumes workers will hold down two jobs. they call it laughable, impractical. more on the debate and more on

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welcome back. back to the president's address on health care today. the white house is fatcing what has become one of its greatest domestic challenges. selling it to you at home. joining us, chris with the national journal and april ryan, a white house radio correspondent. thank you for joining me. april and chris, this says that the law, yes, it is a complex subject. yes, an entire political party

remains adamantly opposed to it. yes, the media's coverage often emphasizes what's not working rather than what is. here's the pr reality for the obama white house. since health care passage in 2010, one side has been lobbing grenades on a daily basis while the other side has been mostly quiet. chris, that's what our first read team says. do you agree? >> no, i think they're right. what the president did today was a long time coming, tamron. this is something that supporters of this law wanted to see three years ago, which was a strong president getting out there, getting out there often talking about the benefits of this law. and part of the reason republicans have been so effective in driving down the poll numbers on obama care is because they have been the ones emphasizing the problems. and that's going to be the president's problem going forward into the mid-term elections. remember, obama care starts to be implemented in 2014 at the end of 2014 are those elections and republicans are going to be

looking for any reason to pounce on any glitches in implementation. >> and, april, to that point, let me play a little bit of what the president said regarding the opposition and in a sense the same old song and dance. let's play it. >> if the folks who have been trying to make political hay out of this thing, if they have some better ideas, i've already told them i'm happy to hear it, but i haven't heard any so far. what i've heard is just the same old song and dance. we're just going to blow through that stuff and just keep on doing the right thing for the american people. >> it's so interesting, april. dana mel vine, his column in the washington post talks about how many times the republicans are trying to go after the health care and repeal it. he says all of the tallies that we've heard from democrats fell short of the actual number of times congress has voted to repeal all or part of obama care. it has done that. are you sitting down? 67 times, april. >> well, you know, whether it's

67 times, 5 times or what have you, i believe that the president is right and we've seen that back and forth up and down pennsylvania avenue they want to battle it out over everything and the affordable care act, better known as obama care, is one of those major items. tamron, part of the problem is this administration never really communicated about the affordable care act before it became law and right after it became law. if you remember, the president had to go out on his porch talking about t. that's a lot of the problem. people don't understand. the white house is saying people will find out a lot more once they start seeing the benefits, but to want to know what's going on, you want to know what you're going to get before you get it. >> of course you do. >> yes. >> and i think it's that observation that you've made, april, is consistent, chris, with what people have said all along. they want to get behind the idea because obviously we all at some

point will end up in a doctor's office and god forbid in an er, but the reality is there are glitches. let me play a little bit about what the president said in his speech about the problems. >> this is a big country and the health care administration is massive. there's tons of providers, so as we implement, there are going to be glitches and there are going to be certain states that for political reasons are resisting implementation and we're just steadily working through all of that stuff. >> so, chris, is part of the strategy to push more of the benefits? "the new york times" points out the health care costs for new yorkers set to fall 50%. the president referenced that as well. does the white house and the president, advisors, really need this as april pointed out, they really need to talk dollars and cents, people. that's what we understand. when you look at your insurance bill for your car, you look at how much it is. you might shop around for something cheaper. we look at dollars and sense,

not in esoteric words. >> that's right. while premiums will go down 50% in new york, health care costs across the board are going to go up 88% in ohio. so for every success the obama administration tries to point out, republicans have something else to point to. remember that the obama administration front loaded some of the most popular benefits with obama care, that you can stay on your parents' plan until you're 26, you can't be discriminated against for pre-existing conditions. those are already in effect. we have not seen a big bump in popularity. so as the tougher laws of putting these together where people can buy health insurance in their state gets underway, it's only going to become tougher for the obama administration which is why it's so important that he get out there and he get out there hard because he's behind the eight ball. >> april, go ahead. >> maxine waters, congresswoman from california said to me this morning, she said one of the

tough pieces is the fact that people just need someone there to stand with them when they're filling out the form. the white house today said they got a lot of the materials down to three pages but you need somebody to stand with you. >> april, chris, thank you for your time. appreciate it. still ahead, the world marks the 95th birthday of former south african president, nelson mandela, including bill clinton at the u.n. today. >> what i know is his heart was so big and his humanity so great, we often had trouble keeping our official part away from our official friendship. >> a celebration and a day of service. we'll take you live to south africa. plus, vice president joe biden gives possible insight about a possible 2016 run. what he said in a wide ranging interview with "gq" magazine.

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welcome back. it is almost 8:30 p.m. in south africa where all day the nation has been marking nelson mandela's 95th birthday. crowds have been gathering outside the hospital in pretoria where mr. mandela has been receiving treatment for almost six weeks now. meantime, on his birthday, encouraging news from his family. his daughter says her father is, quote, making remarkable progress and could be going home soon. nbc's ron allen joins us now from outside the hospital in pretoria. and we still see people there in the background. tell me a little bit more, at least the feel of the day, ron, since you are there. you had a chance to interact with so many people. >> reporter: well, it's been an amazing day, tamron. it's all the more celebratory and exciting for people here. there's a big feeling of relief

because a lot of people feared that this day might not come. remember, nelson mandela's been in the hospital now for 41 days, much of that in critical yet stable condition. still critical, very dire. even today he's still in that condition even though we're hearing reports from the family suggesting that he may be coming home soon. the doctors are not saying that. they still want to see him continue to improve over a longer period of time before they upgrade or change his condition from critical. and he is today, yes, 95 years old. he's very -- he's still a very sick man, but across this country today, especially school children this morning, began their day singing happy birthday to nelson mandela. up and down this street outside the hospital there have been hundreds upon hundreds of people coming here, school children, marching bands, traditional dancers, everybody celebrating the greatest season, that the father of this nation is

responsible for here. he's responsible for making south africa what it is today. outside this hospital, an emotionally packed environment. you have to feel for that and how much these people love nelson mandela, how much he is respected and just simply adored and how big a tremendous loss it will be when the inevitable happens and everybody here is hoping that that day is no time in the near future. but, again, yes, the celebration continues here onto the night. it's been that way for many of the weeks that we've been here but today just a huge outpouring of affection and love for this man who inspires the nation and the rest of the world. >> ron, thank you so much for that live report from south africa. well, back here, senators could vote in just a couple of hours on a deal to undo the hike that doubled student loan rates. it would help current college students but what about those planning to go to college in the near future? plus, a new twist in the trial of whitey bulger after a man who was a potential witness against

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a bipartisan group of senators held a news conference to announce a tentative deal to restore interest rates on federally subsidized college student loans. those rates doubled to 6.8% after congress failed to act. under the deal rates for undergraduates this fall would be rolled back to 3.85% and for grad students, 5.4. the deal would offer the rates through the 2015 academic year but then rates could climb if the economy improves. democratic senator joe mancion. mark murray is joining us. good news but also the word compromise coming up again with something out of capitol hill or on capitol hill this week alone.

>> that is right, tamron. there has been some compromise and of course the bar has now been incredibly low when people strike one particular deal on student loans which was a much easier sell just a year ago or when president obama's executive branch appointments actually get confirmed, people say, my goodness, things are finally working. of course, that is a very lobar. i will let you know, tamron, there are progressive groups that are pretty outraged about the deal. some of these interest rates are pretty high as it goes in future years. you mentioned the rate for graduate students. you can get a much better deal right now buying a home at a much lower interest rate than some of those future loans. of course, one of the things in that deal was that it does get capped at least in the future, but some people are complaining this isn't a great deal for students. >> any chance those complaints will be addressed? that is a great point. we know that college is expensive but when you compare it, as you just did, to buying a

home, it continues to stun us, the cost of a higher education. >> yeah. one of the things i think they were trying to do was make sure that it was capped because as we all do know, interest rates are historically low. they eventually are going to go up at some point. one of the things this legislation in compromise tries to do is cap it so it can't get any higher if interest rates begin to climb but, tamron, right now i think you mentioned this, this is just a deal right now. this has not been passed by the united states senate. we have not seen a conference committee with the house of representatives. this is just the easy part getting one deal in the senate being able to work together with the house of representatives, getting it signed by president obama is a whole other issue. >> we know that to be fact. thank you very much, mark. witness in the whitey bulger trial in boston has been found dead. that tops our look at stories around "news nation" today. authorities say not clear how 59-year-old steven race died but there was no obvious sign of injury. his body was found yesterday.

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always there for you. now back to the after shocks of the george zimmerman verdict. as we mentioned, members of the congressional black caucus are set to be preparing several bills in response to that verdict. joining me now, congressman james clyburn. >> thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> the congressional black caucus is not looking at one option, as they reported you're looking at aye flurry of bills to address this verdict. can you give me more insight as to what's going on there? >> well, thank you so much for having me. we in the caucus are being a bit deliberate in our response. we're very disappointed in the verdict and more disappointed in some of the reactions we have

read from some of the jurors. it just seems as if something about this entire process is disconcerting to us. and so we are looking at the verdict as well as other things surrounding it and trying to figure out whether or not this whole so-called stand your ground legislation or law can be dealt with in such a way to prevent this kind of thing from happening. and we hope that we can. but we have not yet coordinated our efforts. a lot of individual members are doing what they feel they need to do. as you know, three of our members are from florida and they certainly feel about this very emotionally and some of them are responding. fredricka wilson, for instance,

represents the district that trayvon martin lived in, not where the incident occurred. corrinne brown, a member of the cbc, represents the district in sanford, florida, where all of this occurred. so the emotions are pretty raw and we are trying to make sure that we harness those images. >> you mentioned corrinne brown. the quote in the article on the hill says, we do not know that mr. martin's civil rights have been violated. we do know that there has to be some fairness in the system. it starts with, i mention it all the time, you can't vote for a president or congress person, you've got to vote up or down the ballot, the judges, the state legislators that make the law. the system is not working, it is broken. speaking of a broken system, many see congress broken. sheila jackson lee right after the shooting wanted to propose legislation requiring all neighborhood watch volunteers to

register. her spokesperson is saying now that they don't believe it is politically viable at this moment given that it seems everything gets log jammed in congress. >> well, that's why i say we're being very deliberate. we will likely get something done in order to prevent these kinds of things from happening. now you know this thing got off on the wrong foot from the very beginning. decisions were made on the night of the incident by police officers and their superiors that seemed to go far beyond what anybody would expect a police officer to be doing on the scene. rather than arrest zimmerman and take him downtown for questioning, rather than doing something to maintain the crime scene, a lot of things they didn't do simply because they accepted his word as if it were a stand your ground kind of incident and saying it would be

unconstitutional before he ends up being arrested. no police officer has any business making constitutional decisions. you react to the incident and hopefully you do it in such a way to preserve the crime scene, make sure that you get all your facts right and not make any political or constitutional adjustments about anything. that's the kind of stuff we want to take a hard look at and see if we don't need to be doing stuff to make sure those kinds of judgments aren't being made. >> i want to make an excerpt from then senator obama's book on "the audacity of hope." during my 45 years have been directed my way. security guards tailing me as i shop in department stores, white couples who toss me their keys as i stand outside a restaurant waiting for the valet. police cars pulling me over for

no apparent reason. i'm sure you've read some of the arts about it, whether or not we're okay with talking about race and racial profiling wasn't brought up during that trial. are we capable ever having that conversation now, especially in washington, d.c., in that town? >> well, i'm very familiar with all the sentiments expressed by the president in that book. i just finished writing my memoirs and i've written about some things that happened to me, things that i saw happen to my d dad in my mother's presence so i know how these kinds of things can be when you mess with the psyche of any young person. hopefully we ought to have some kind of conversation on race. i remember when president clinton started out to attempt it. he just had to pull back.

and i know that this administration is very reluctant to get into that, but the fact of the matter is you're not going to solve the problems we have with race if we don't talk about it. these things have got to be put on the table. you've got to have an honest discussion about this and do it in such a way that it can be meaningful so that we won't have to be reacting in a knee jerk way to these incidents when they occur. so if we can have the discussion while nothing is going on, i think the atmosphere would be much better about improving things than waiting for something to happen. >> congressman james clyburne, thank you for making a moment for me. >> thank you so much for having me. >> gut check is next. here are some things we thought you should know. texas governor rick perry signed sweeping new abortion restrictions into law. the controversial bill sparked

weeks of protests at the state capitol. the law imposes tough limits on doctors, patients and facilities including a ban on facilities after 20 weeks. five of the facilities meet the new requirements. the law takes effect in october. nypd commissioner ray kelly is reportedly interested in running the department of homeland security. president obama on tuesday called the 71-year-old very well qualified. and vice president joe biden is dropping new hints on his political future in a "gq" interview. out today, in fact. he would not give an answer on running for president. he says, i can die a happy man never having been president of the united states of america but it doesn't mean i won't run. and in chicago, first lady michelle obama visited a career

center for students. she said don't be afraid to ask for help but still be yourself. >> i embrace my background and i want all of you to do that no matter where you go. you do not turn your back on what's happening here because that is the thing that's going to get you through.

okay. it's time now for the "news nation" gut check. mcdonald's is known for fast food. it is the face of fast food. anyway, it is serving up financial advice and it is not going over well. the company's new financial guide meant for employees is drawing a wave of criticism. some of the suggested monthly expenses in this budget guide include $20 for health care, 20. one expert said show me where you can get health care for $20. $600 for rent and 150 bucks for a car. that does not include gas. according to the census bureau, the median annual income for a

fast food worker is just $18,000 a year. the guide comes at a compelling time when a growing number of fast food workers are pushing, of course, for higher minimum wage. so, what does your gut tell you? do you think mcdonald's, the finance guide is insensitive to its employees? go to facebook.com/"news nation" to cast that vote. and in yet's gut check we asked if you thought rolling stone magazine was glory fieg accused boston bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev, 68% said yes, 32% said no. it seems you agreed with the voters because the list of stores lining up to ban the magazine, the august edition, is growing, cvs, wall green, k-mart and a number of new england-based foot stores. "boston globe" reporter, david able, is joining me. thanks for your time. >> glad to be here. >> it shouldn't come as a huge surprise. you have some stores that said

we're not going to put it up, especially in your area. >> that's absolutely right. i think at last count there were about seven chains or local stores that have said that they're going to pull the magazine from the shelf, at least for this issue. >> what are folks saying, and i'm sure you've talked to a lot of people. you have people who have been on air today saying, look, this picture is not new. this picture has appeared in newspaper publications, why is it seen as so insensitive on the color of "rolling stone." they say this is part of what they do and it's not just about music in the publication. >> so i spent a portion of yesterday by the finish line where the two bombs went off and i think a lot of people here feel it's about context. the cover of "rolling stone" magazine historically for decades has featured rock stars and celebrities. i think people see that as a kind of comparison and it's the context not just the picture

that really matters. >> but speaking of context or the content, you have those who read the article and they say that it does tell a compelling story how this young man seemed to be as attractive by many turned into this alleged monster, that you have to look beyond the gloss to get to the meat of a story that we all need to read as we become more educationed and more aware of this kind of radical lieization, if that is what happened here. >> that's right. i've heard very complaints about the article itself, which -- which really humanizes him and gives us a really compelling and deeper understanding we have had up to this point about who dzhokhar tsarnaev is. at the same point, i think it's the context of having him appear on the cover of a vehicle for celebrities that has really bothered a lot of people. >> i mean, it's bothersome and take it to the next level. many people have said it hurts. it hurts to see this, what they

see as glor if i case. >> it gets him fame i think is what they feel like many he wanted. >> right. thank you very much. i greatly appreciate your time. it's great to have you on and have your voice. >> thank you. >> that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for hanging with us. i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. she's seen it too. oh this could be trouble. [ sentra lock noise ] oh man. gotta think fast, herbie. back pedal, back pedal. what they feel like many he i'm tamron hall.

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the bruising and endless obama care battle entered a new round this morning. president obama once again taughted the benefits of the three-year-old law despite the white house delaying implementation of a key portion of the legislation for another year. >> this is a big country and the health care industry is massive and there's tons of providers so as we implement, there are going to be glitches and there are going to be certain states that for political reasons are resisting implementation and we're just steadily working through all of that stuff. >> those remarks came in response to the 38th, yes, 38th time that the house voted this time on wednesday's appeal for parts or all of it. this time it was the symbolic vote that the white house delayed.